HP Linux support on laptops?
Hello, I've been offered an HP laptop for a good price and when I called HP Israel to ask about Linux support they told me that HP does not support Linux on ANY laptop of theirs. At least in Israel. That doesn't quite fit what I see in http://tinyurl.com/26yeb, which lists some models with full support for RH, Mandrake, Suse and TurboLinux. So what's the deal? Just forget about supported HP laptops with Linux? Should I stick to IBM's? (It's very disappointing not just because of the good price but also because I heard that HP made 2.5 Billion (10^9) $ last year just frmo Linux sales). Thanks, --Amos = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: HP Linux support on laptops?
Gabor Szabo wrote: I have been using HP and Compaq laptops with SuSe and now Libranet/Debian for the past 4 years. It is is a shame HP does not support it officially. That's the strange thing - their web site claims that they DO support some models, but the people in Israel say they won't. --Amos = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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I have been using HP and Compaq laptops with SuSe and now Libranet/Debian for the past 4 years. It is is a shame HP does not support it officially. Especially with all the fuss of HP and Linux Gabor = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Hi, If you're looking for official Linux support on HP laptops, then forget it - here and in US (unless of-course you're a big HP customer which orders 500+ machines from them). Same deal with IBM (go find official support for their ACPI, etc)... If you're planning to buy an HP notebook, then I would suggest to search some forums, see if anyone previously had installed Linux on top of the same notebook model and what quirks he had to pull to make it work. 99% chances that with Linux - you're on your own with your notebook problems (software side). Thanks, Hetz -- Original Message --- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thu, 04 Mar 2004 14:24:51 +0200 Subject: HP Linux support on laptops? Hello, I've been offered an HP laptop for a good price and when I called HP Israel to ask about Linux support they told me that HP does not support Linux on ANY laptop of theirs. At least in Israel. That doesn't quite fit what I see in http://tinyurl.com/26yeb, which lists some models with full support for RH, Mandrake, Suse and TurboLinux. So what's the deal? Just forget about supported HP laptops with Linux? Should I stick to IBM's? (It's very disappointing not just because of the good price but also because I heard that HP made 2.5 Billion (10^9) $ last year just frmo Linux sales). Thanks, --Amos = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- End of Original Message --- = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Hi, Most of HP's laptops support Linux without any problems, with the possible exception of the HSF modem that most of their models have. Also, look out for poorly supported video cards. My Presario has an ATI IGP-340 video card, with poor to no support for the S-VHS port in X (yes, I know about gatos). But you can forget about any kind of support from HP personel. The best advice they seem to be able to give is Sorry, only Windows can possibly run on any of our laptops. I suggest you restore the original installation, and see if the problem still occurs. Lior [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, I've been offered an HP laptop for a good price and when I called HP Israel to ask about Linux support they told me that HP does not support Linux on ANY laptop of theirs. At least in Israel. That doesn't quite fit what I see in http://tinyurl.com/26yeb, which lists some models with full support for RH, Mandrake, Suse and TurboLinux. So what's the deal? Just forget about supported HP laptops with Linux? Should I stick to IBM's? (It's very disappointing not just because of the good price but also because I heard that HP made 2.5 Billion (10^9) $ last year just frmo Linux sales). Thanks, --Amos = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On Thu, Mar 04, 2004 at 04:07:22PM +0200, Hetz Ben Hamo wrote: Hi, If you're looking for official Linux support on HP laptops, then forget it - here and in US (unless of-course you're a big HP customer which orders 500+ machines from them). Same deal with IBM (go find official support for their ACPI, etc)... If you're planning to buy an HP notebook, then I would suggest to search some forums, see if anyone previously had installed Linux on top of the same notebook model and what quirks he had to pull to make it work. 99% chances that with Linux - you're on your own with your notebook problems (software side). Actually also be careful also when asking for hardware support. I have no experience with hp, but calling the US sony support with an overheating (and later dead) laptop, I made the mistake of mentioning that I got the temperature reading of Linux since I could find a way to do it on XP and I immediately got the answer that they don't support Linux (didn't help trying to convince them it was a hardware problem, had to call again and not mention Linux). Also, it could be that the Israeli support don't support Linux despite international support doing so (again no experience with HP). Your best bet is probably to searching the web first on the model and/or components to see if it has linux support. Main problems to look for would probably be modem, acpi, sound, graphic acceleration (integrated memory cards I think are more problematic. I believe ati cards are usually ok, newer but not newest are supported). I believe other things usually work ok. Thanks, Hetz -- Original Message --- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thu, 04 Mar 2004 14:24:51 +0200 Subject: HP Linux support on laptops? Hello, I've been offered an HP laptop for a good price and when I called HP Israel to ask about Linux support they told me that HP does not support Linux on ANY laptop of theirs. At least in Israel. That doesn't quite fit what I see in http://tinyurl.com/26yeb, which lists some models with full support for RH, Mandrake, Suse and TurboLinux. So what's the deal? Just forget about supported HP laptops with Linux? Should I stick to IBM's? (It's very disappointing not just because of the good price but also because I heard that HP made 2.5 Billion (10^9) $ last year just frmo Linux sales). Thanks, --Amos = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- End of Original Message --- = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] +++ This Mail Was Scanned By Mail-seCure System at the Tel-Aviv University CC. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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This would not be a first time tech support staff do not know their own company policy If you are in the mood to confuse them, send them the web page. If you want to confuse them more, you can then ask a technical question. HP made it's linux money not from direct sales, but channeled sales, such as HP Consulting jobs. You will also note, that while HP provided a press release that they support Debian, it is not on their certification list, not do their provide any of their software as DEBs. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gabor Szabo wrote: I have been using HP and Compaq laptops with SuSe and now Libranet/Debian for the past 4 years. It is is a shame HP does not support it officially. That's the strange thing - their web site claims that they DO support some models, but the people in Israel say they won't. --Amos = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
