Re: "Hamakor" finally established!
On Wednesday 02 April 2003 17:00, Alon Altman wrote: > I think making the official membership card a blank CD-R/RW with the > member's details outside should be best. Also, I think each member should > get a signed (by the amuta) file certifying he/she is a member up to a > certain date, and that file can be placed on the membership CD or otherwise > used as a digital membership certificate (if it includes the member's > public key as well). > > Alon (I'm not replying particularly to this message, but to the whole thread in general) All these ideas are nice and sexy, but I think there is still this little matter of funding. I'd like to suggest that maybe such membership cards would be offered as marchendies (i.e. anyone intrested in such a card(s?) will pay for it). That way: 1. The expenses of these cards fall only on those interested in it (I'm not sure when I am going to use this card, or even if I'll find it useful once or twice a year its cost might still be too high, and I don't see why my money should go to such cards when more important activities might not have enough funding). 2. The society's funds go to their purpose (between us - how much does such a cool membership card really promotes the society's goals, compared to other possible activities?). 3. If charged a bit over the cost then it could be an additional (and legal?) source of income for the society. (same thing goes for T-shirts and other possible marchendise - reflecting on this I suspect that a T-shirt might help spread the word about the society even better than a membership card). BTW - wouldn't such matters fit better to a "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" mailing list? The Hamakor isn't about linux only, and it's a matter for Hamakor members. Cheers, --Amos = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: "Hamakor" finally established!
On Wed, 2 Apr 2003, Dan Armak wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On Wednesday 02 April 2003 14:18, Tzafrir Cohen wrote: > > Hmm.. This will give a good reason to renew membership each year, to get > > th latest version of the Amuta card. > > > > OTOH, I can imagine the flames going on regarding what version should be > > used for the Amuta card (linux-bbc is probably not the only distro that > > can fit this size) > > > > Do we really need an official Hamakor distro? ;-) > > Very good point. I agree. People would be asking for alternative livecds from > , and hamakor members who use bsd and such would > get justfiably angry if you give them a linux livecd. > > Since people want credit card livecds, provide them by all means, but not as > official hamakor membership cards. Or, provide enough different livecds to > choose from (with the option of choosing none), or even give out blank credit > card-sized cds as hamakor membership cards with the logo etc. for people to > burn whatever they want on (and provide/link to various livecd isos). How > difficult is burning a credit card cdr/cdrw, would a typical burner be unable > to do it? I think making the official membership card a blank CD-R/RW with the member's details outside should be best. Also, I think each member should get a signed (by the amuta) file certifying he/she is a member up to a certain date, and that file can be placed on the membership CD or otherwise used as a digital membership certificate (if it includes the member's public key as well). Alon -- This message was sent by Alon Altman ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) ICQ:1366540 GPG public key at http://alon.wox.org/pubkey.txt Key fingerprint = A670 6C81 19D3 3773 3627 DE14 B44A 50A3 FE06 7F24 -- -=[ Random Fortune ]=- An INK-LING? Sure -- TAKE one!! Did you BUY any COMMUNIST UNIFORMS?? = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: "Hamakor" finally established!
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wednesday 02 April 2003 14:18, Tzafrir Cohen wrote: > Hmm.. This will give a good reason to renew membership each year, to get > th latest version of the Amuta card. > > OTOH, I can imagine the flames going on regarding what version should be > used for the Amuta card (linux-bbc is probably not the only distro that > can fit this size) > > Do we really need an official Hamakor distro? ;-) Very good point. I agree. People would be asking for alternative livecds from , and hamakor members who use bsd and such would get justfiably angry if you give them a linux livecd. Since people want credit card livecds, provide them by all means, but not as official hamakor membership cards. Or, provide enough different livecds to choose from (with the option of choosing none), or even give out blank credit card-sized cds as hamakor membership cards with the logo etc. for people to burn whatever they want on (and provide/link to various livecd isos). How difficult is burning a credit card cdr/cdrw, would a typical burner be unable to do it? - -- Dan Armak Matan, Israel Public GPG key: http://www.gentoo.org/~danarmak/danarmak-gpg-public.key -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+iuinUI2RQ41fiVERAkQFAJwJGHjEu/a45zQHlLn/KN9SwnUf6ACfXeaD 4DunUmXMWeQgG/HEUq/pdRI= =wUu1 -END PGP SIGNATURE- To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: "Hamakor" finally established!
Gilad Ben-Yossef wrote: hmm.. how about we start with *you* joining and paying the measly 100 NIS membership fees? Put your money where your shnorr is... :-) OK :-)X Gilad. -- -- regards +--- + Guy Baruch , Plasma Laboratory, Weizmann Institue. + mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] + phone: 972-8-934-2211 +--- They hang the man and flog the woman That steal the goose from off the common, But let the greater villain loose That steals the common from the goose. -- English folk poem, circa 1764 http://bostonreview.mit.edu/BR27.3/bollier.html = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Vapor-money (was: Re: "Hamakor" finally established!)
On Tue, 1 Apr 2003, Guy Baruch wrote: > Gilad Ben-Yossef wrote: [... snipped ...] > I'm feeling a bit absurd comenting about vapour-money, but should the > amuta really > come across such a sum, I'dsuggest investing such money in > prizes/scholarships to > motivate students to work on OS/FS projects, as a part of their academic > work. Good idea. Funding 50 students for 20,000NIS each, to do their 50 mid-size projects, will be much more effective than funding a single group of developers for 1,000,000NIS to do a single major project. > In fact, in the great and honorable Jewish shnorr tradition, I suggest > the amuta tries to raise > donations for a fund with this exact purpose ... Board members, start working on getting the amuta recognized for tax purposes (so that monetary donations to the amuta will be tax-deductible). --- Omer My opinions, as expressed in this E-mail message, are mine alone. They do not represent the official policy of any organization with which I may be affiliated in any way. WARNING TO SPAMMERS: at http://www.zak.co.il/spamwarning.html = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
"Hamakor" finally established!
I wanted all of you to know. If you are interested in joining, you are, of course, welcome. If you want to forward it onwards, feel free to do so. If any questions arise, please contact either me at 054-399089, or Doron Ofek at 056-334291. Shachar -- Shachar Shemesh Open Source integration consultant Home page & resume - http://www.shemesh.biz/ Title: Press Release announce.html "המקור - עמותה ישראלית לתוכנה חופשית ולקוד-מקור פתוח (ע"ר)" מכריזה על תחילת פעילות 30 למרץ, 2003 - עמותת "המקור" שמה לה למטרה לקדם שימוש ופיתוח של תוכנה חופשית ושל קוד מקור פתוח. העמותה מתכוונת לפעול בתחומי השוק העיסקי והממשלתי לקידום המודעות לתוכנות החופשיות ופתוחות הקוד הקיימות וליתרונותיהם, כמו גם ליתרונות מודל הפיתוח הפתוח. העמותה נרשמה אצל רשם העמותות בתאריך 1 לינואר 2003 כעמותה מס' 58-040-213-9, וכעת מוכנה להתחיל לפעול ולקבל חברים. לועד העמותה נבחרו דורון אופק, מולי בן-יהודה, גלעד בן-יוסף, כתריאל טראום ושחר שמש, כולם פעילים ותיקים וידועים בעולם התוכנה החופשית בארץ. העמותה וכל חבריה המקימים הם אנשים פרטיים הפועלים ללא תמורה, מתוך אידיאולוגיה ואמונה במטרות העמותה. על אף שהעמותה מקווה לשיתוף פעולה פורה עם כל הגורמים העיסקיים הפועלים בשוק, האינטרס היחידי העומד לנגד עיניה הוא קידום התוכנה החופשית. העמותה מאמינה ומקווה שגורמים רבים ככל האפשר יהנו כלכלית מקידום אינטרס זה, אולם אינה מתנה את פעילותה בקיום אינטרס כלכלי בפעילות לאף גורם מסויים. בין מטרות העמותה המיידיות: עזרה בצימצום פער השפה, שכבר אינו גדול, של מערכת ההפעלה "לינוקס", במטרה לאפשר שימוש מלא במערכת זו בסביבה ביתית ושולחנית בעברית מלאה. מתן ייצוג רשמי לתוכנות החופשיות ופתוחות הקוד, ולקהילת משתמשי תוכנות אילו. הגברת המודעות לתוכנות החופשיות ולאיכות הפתרונות אותן הן מספקות. עידוד תמיכה ושימוש בתוכנות חופשיות ופתוחות קוד ככלי לצימצום הפער הדיגיטלי בישראל ובעולם. העמותה רוצה לנצל את ההזדמנות ולהודות לחברת אקטקום, שבמשך השנים האחרונות תורמת בית לשרת iglu.org.il, המרכז רבות מפעילויות הלינוקס שהתרחשו בארץ. כמו כן ברצונה להודות לחברת I.B.M., שהתחייבה לתרום לעמותה שרת "Netfinity" לצורך פעילותה. פרטים על הצטרפות לעמותה ניתן למצוא בעמוד הבית של העמותה בכתובת http://www.hamakor.org.il.