Re: printing package: cups vs LPRng

2004-03-05 Thread Oron Peled
On Friday 05 March 2004 09:21, Ira Abramov wrote:
 accept(8), cancel(1), disable(8), enable(8),  lp(1),  lpr(1),
 lprm(1), lpstat(1), reject(8), CUPS Software Administrators Manual,
 http://localhost:631/documentation.html
 
 they split it for several reasons I suppose, but I'll leave the design
 arguments aside, the same API (if not more) is available in CUPS.

accept/reject, disable/enable, lp, lpstat, cancel are taken directly from
SysV spooler (the old lpsched and its ilk). lpr, lprm lpq and lpc are from
the BSD spooler (old lpd). So CUPS tries to provide both sets to help
migrations from both environments (remember that CUPS targets not
only Linux, but the Unix market (or what's left of it :-) in general).

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Re: printing package: cups vs LPRng

2004-03-04 Thread Ira Abramov
Quoting David Harel, from the post of Thu, 04 Mar:
 Hi,
 
 I got fed up with cups and installed LPRng but it seems to me that on 

I can't remember anymore why I hated it so, but I tried LPRng for a week
and immediately switched to cups some year or two ago and have used cups
happily ever since... can you tell us why you are so fed up with it?

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Re: printing package: cups vs LPRng

2004-03-04 Thread Moshe Leibovitch
Read the link below at LinuxToday ,an article
by RMS, both funny and educating - yes you will configure
cups eventually !

http://linuxtoday.com/infrastructure/2004022602426OPDTDV


Moish

quote who=Ira Abramov
 Quoting David Harel, from the post of Thu, 04 Mar:
 Hi,

 I got fed up with cups and installed LPRng but it seems to me that on

 I can't remember anymore why I hated it so, but I tried LPRng for a week
 and immediately switched to cups some year or two ago and have used cups
 happily ever since... can you tell us why you are so fed up with it?

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 Ira Abramov
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Re: printing package: cups vs LPRng

2004-03-04 Thread David Harel
Ira Abramov wrote:

Quoting David Harel, from the post of Thu, 04 Mar:
 

Hi,

I got fed up with cups and installed LPRng but it seems to me that on 
   

I can't remember anymore why I hated it so, but I tried LPRng for a week
and immediately switched to cups some year or two ago and have used cups
happily ever since... can you tell us why you are so fed up with it?
 

Quite simple, even though I like to use GUI tools I am used to the lpc command. With 
it, in LPRng, I can open/close both the input to the queue and the queue output (lpc 
commands start/stop, enable/disable). I did not find those features in cups. I need 
those features because my printing environment is on the network.
But what is the matter anyway. Is cups is IN and LPRng is OUT?
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Re: printing package: cups vs LPRng

2004-03-04 Thread Ira Abramov
Quoting David Harel, from the post of Fri, 05 Mar:
 
 Quite simple, even though I like to use GUI tools I am used to the lpc 
 command. With it, in LPRng, I can open/close both the input to the queue 
 and the queue output (lpc commands start/stop, enable/disable). I did not 
 find those features in cups. I need those features because my printing 
 environment is on the network.

and what bothers you is that all the functionality exists in the CUPS
CLI but under different binary names?

this is from lpc(8):

SEE ALSO
accept(8), cancel(1), disable(8), enable(8),  lp(1),  lpr(1),
lprm(1), lpstat(1), reject(8), CUPS Software Administrators Manual,
http://localhost:631/documentation.html

they split it for several reasons I suppose, but I'll leave the design
arguments aside, the same API (if not more) is available in CUPS.

if you are missing those tools, you may have an RPM missing. on debian
they are split to cupsys-client and cupsys-bsd (latter is lp/lpc/lprm
compat binaries)

 But what is the matter anyway. Is cups is IN and LPRng is OUT?

I remember reading somewhere that CUPS is more popular, can't remember
where. I know it's better for me because of the one-stop-shop for all
drivers and types of queues, and because the printouts are easier to
fine-tune to what I need (special printing features of certain printer
models, setting DPI and other stuff).

like I said, I tried LPRng once and didn't like it, but I can't remember
anymore why, it was too long ago.

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