Refund on preinstall Windows license in Israel [slightly OT]
Have anyone tried to get a refund on a Windows license on a preinstall machine he bought? Is it possible in Israel? How much money will they refund? How complicated is it? ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Refund on preinstall Windows license in Israel [slightly OT]
I did not get a refund , i just bought a machine with freedos instead and got a discount of 200 shekels. 2011/12/21 Elazar Leibovich elaz...@gmail.com: Have anyone tried to get a refund on a Windows license on a preinstall machine he bought? Is it possible in Israel? How much money will they refund? How complicated is it? ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Refund on preinstall Windows license in Israel [slightly OT]
On 21/12/2011, Elazar Leibovich elaz...@gmail.com wrote: Have anyone tried to get a refund on a Windows license on a preinstall machine he bought? Is it possible in Israel? How much money will they refund? How complicated is it? I remember that we talked about that in 2008/9 , I think the person name was Tzvi , I remeber because I wished to buy a Dell machine and he had one. -- -- -- Boris Shtrasman |Gnu/Linux Software developer | | IM : bori...@jabber.org | | URL : myrtfm.blogspot.com| ___ ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Refund on preinstall Windows license in Israel [slightly OT]
On Dec 21, 2011, at 3:37 PM, Raz wrote: I did not get a refund , i just bought a machine with freedos instead and got a discount of 200 shekels. I'm not sure that's going to happen much longer. With Windows 7 (and now XP too) Microsoft no longer requires a magic number (license key) to install the system. If you install a new system without a license key, or boot a pre-installed one for the first time, it will become a 30 day free trial. Since you can download the full distribution disks for free, the value of a free trial system is 0. Large companies such as HP, etc may still give you a discount as they have already bought the software in bulk, but they may not too. Small companies such as Ivory, etc can just fulfill their contract with Microsoft at no user refundable cost. Geoff. -- Geoffrey S. Mendelson, N3OWJ/4X1GM My high blood pressure medicine reduces my midichlorian count. :-( ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Refund on preinstall Windows license in Israel [slightly OT]
On 12/21/2011 03:26 PM, Elazar Leibovich wrote: Have anyone tried to get a refund on a Windows license on a preinstall machine he bought? Is it possible in Israel? How much money will they refund? How complicated is it? Zvi Devir has done it and ran a Haifux lecture. I believe the slides and walk-through are still available. -- MV ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Refund on preinstall Windows license in Israel [slightly OT]
On Wed, Dec 21, 2011 at 5:42 PM, Michael Vasiliev mycr...@infoscav.netwrote: On 12/21/2011 03:26 PM, Elazar Leibovich wrote: Have anyone tried to get a refund on a Windows license on a preinstall machine he bought? Is it possible in Israel? How much money will they refund? How complicated is it? Zvi Devir has done it and ran a Haifux lecture. I believe the slides and walk-through are still available. http://www.haifux.org/lectures/204/ Kaplan ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Refund on preinstall Windows license in Israel [slightly OT]
On 12/21/2011 03:57 PM, geoffrey mendelson wrote: On Dec 21, 2011, at 3:37 PM, Raz wrote: I did not get a refund , i just bought a machine with freedos instead and got a discount of 200 shekels. I'm not sure that's going to happen much longer. With Windows 7 (and now XP too) Microsoft no longer requires a magic number (license key) to install the system. If you install a new system without a license key, or boot a pre-installed one for the first time, it will become a 30 day free trial. Since you can download the full distribution disks for free, the value of a free trial system is 0. Large companies such as HP, etc may still give you a discount as they have already bought the software in bulk, but they may not too. Small companies such as Ivory, etc can just fulfill their contract with Microsoft at no user refundable cost. I assume you mean SLIC in the ACPI, so your computer just have a license key embedded in it's writable CMOS memory, so what? How's that changing anything? The data in Windows distribution has always been free, you're paying per license to use, not anything else. In fact, they insist on it being zero cost, when I ordered an upgrade disk last time, they only billed me a ridiculous sum for SH. The fact that Microsoft and vendors has always being secretive on allowing you to download the distribution CDs is another, unrelated issue. -- MichaelV ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Refund on preinstall Windows license in Israel [slightly OT]
On Wed, 21 Dec 2011 17:42:24 +0200 Michael Vasiliev mycr...@infoscav.net wrote: On 12/21/2011 03:26 PM, Elazar Leibovich wrote: Have anyone tried to get a refund on a Windows license on a preinstall machine he bought? Is it possible in Israel? How much money will they refund? How complicated is it? Zvi Devir has done it and ran a Haifux lecture. I believe the slides and walk-through are still available. You can find them here: http://www.haifux.org/lectures/204/ I can give you his email for further guidance if you E-mail me in private. Regards, Shlomi Fish (whose laptop came with Windows 7 pre-installed, and he kept it there because he believed it may prove of utility.). -- MV ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il -- - Shlomi Fish http://www.shlomifish.org/ Understand what Open Source is - http://shlom.in/oss-fs When Chuck Norris uses git, he takes a coffee break after initiating every git commit. And then he waits for the commit to finish. Please reply to list if it's a mailing list post - http://shlom.in/reply . ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Refund on preinstall Windows license in Israel [slightly OT]
I wrote about it in 2008: http://blog.oriidan.info/tag/%D7%AA%D7%A7%D7%93%D7%99%D7%9D-%D7%9E%D7%A9%D7%A4%D7%98%D7%99/ Sorry for top posting, I send it from a mobile... -- Ori Idan On Wed, Dec 21, 2011 at 6:21 PM, Shlomi Fish shlo...@shlomifish.org wrote: On Wed, 21 Dec 2011 17:42:24 +0200 Michael Vasiliev mycr...@infoscav.net wrote: On 12/21/2011 03:26 PM, Elazar Leibovich wrote: Have anyone tried to get a refund on a Windows license on a preinstall machine he bought? Is it possible in Israel? How much money will they refund? How complicated is it? Zvi Devir has done it and ran a Haifux lecture. I believe the slides and walk-through are still available. You can find them here: http://www.haifux.org/lectures/204/ I can give you his email for further guidance if you E-mail me in private. Regards, Shlomi Fish (whose laptop came with Windows 7 pre-installed, and he kept it there because he believed it may prove of utility.). -- MV ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il -- - Shlomi Fish http://www.shlomifish.org/ Understand what Open Source is - http://shlom.in/oss-fs When Chuck Norris uses git, he takes a coffee break after initiating every git commit. And then he waits for the commit to finish. Please reply to list if it's a mailing list post - http://shlom.in/reply . ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Refund on preinstall Windows license in Israel [slightly OT]
On Dec 21, 2011, at 6:03 PM, Michael Vasiliev wrote: I assume you mean SLIC in the ACPI, so your computer just have a license key embedded in it's writable CMOS memory, so what? How's that changing anything? The data in Windows distribution has always been free, you're paying per license to use, not anything else. In fact, they insist on it being zero cost, when I ordered an upgrade disk last time, they only billed me a ridiculous sum for SH. The fact that Microsoft and vendors has always being secretive on allowing you to download the distribution CDs is another, unrelated issue. No, I wasn't. What I was referring to was that Microsoft now has a free (as in beer) operating system option, so a vendor can sell you a computer with a free Windows license. Like beer, it only lasts a short time, but their contract with Microsoft only requires them to sell you the computer with an operating system installed, not a long term license. Geoff. -- Geoffrey S. Mendelson, N3OWJ/4X1GM My high blood pressure medicine reduces my midichlorian count. :-( ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
