Re: Sun to release StarOffice as GPL

2000-07-18 Thread erez

i think the problem is not only adding bidi support,
but also adding/modifing the input filters so it can import hebrew
documents ( it will be a lot better if it could read MsWord format ... )

regards
erez.

Ira Abramov wrote:

 On Mon, 17 Jul 2000, Matan Ziv-Av wrote:

 
   I think that we all together will code the hebrew support for office, it
   will be not so hard..

  You don't have to wait for Star office. There are a few free word
  processors already:
  Abiword
  Maxwell
  KWord

 none of them is a full office suite yet.

 
  And probably any of them is easier to add bidi support than Star, since
  they are smaller.

 interesting conclusion, I can't see how it was derivied. the size of the
 code (which you don't know, because you didn't download for StarOffice
 yet) has nothing to do with the complexity or extendability of the
 wordprocessor's rendering engine's code. for all you know it's spaghetti
 in Abi and KWord and clean in StarOffice. it all remains to be seen.

 I encourage our esteemed membrs of the list who can afford the tiome and
 knowhow to pool for this cause. be it for Kword or office or Abi.

 --
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Re: Sun to release StarOffice as GPL

2000-07-18 Thread Ilya Konstantinov

On Tue, Jul 18, 2000 at 10:07:11AM +0300, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 i think the problem is not only adding bidi support,
 but also adding/modifing the input filters so it can import hebrew
 documents ( it will be a lot better if it could read MsWord format ... )

AbiWord opened hebrew Word documents I received
properly (without the font, and reversed of course,
since it's logical). Pasting thru fribidi
(or alternatively nowadays:
iconv -f cp1255 -t utf-8 | pango-viewer /dev/stdin )
worked fine to display the original text.

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Re: Sun to release StarOffice as GPL

2000-07-17 Thread Pavel Bibergal

YOHO!
I think that we all together will code the hebrew support for office, it
will be not so hard..
all we need to do is to understand the engine (the hard part) and write the
addins for enjine that will support hebrew (the wasiest part, we can take
dov's algorythms for this)
Pavel Bibergal
Yosi wrote:

 Hi,

 I have found a link on /. to the following article on ZDNet:
 http://www.zdnet.com/sp/stories/news/0,4538,2604174,00.html

 It seems, Sun will release StarOffice under the GNU Public license
 "later this summer" (Sun's words). I wonder how easy or hard will it
 be to hack the open sourced version of StarOffice to decently support
 Hebrew.

 Yosi
 
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Re: Sun to release StarOffice as GPL

2000-07-17 Thread Matan Ziv-Av


 I think that we all together will code the hebrew support for office, it
 will be not so hard..
 all we need to do is to understand the engine (the hard part) and write the
 addins for enjine that will support hebrew (the wasiest part, we can take
 dov's algorythms for this)
 Pavel Bibergal
 Yosi wrote:

You don't have to wait for Star office. There are a few free word
processors already:
Abiword
Maxwell
KWord

And probably any of them is easier to add bidi support than Star, since
they are smaller.


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Re: Sun to release StarOffice as GPL

2000-07-17 Thread Ira Abramov

On Mon, 17 Jul 2000, Matan Ziv-Av wrote:

 
  I think that we all together will code the hebrew support for office, it
  will be not so hard..

 You don't have to wait for Star office. There are a few free word
 processors already:
 Abiword
 Maxwell
 KWord

none of them is a full office suite yet.

 
 And probably any of them is easier to add bidi support than Star, since
 they are smaller.

interesting conclusion, I can't see how it was derivied. the size of the
code (which you don't know, because you didn't download for StarOffice
yet) has nothing to do with the complexity or extendability of the
wordprocessor's rendering engine's code. for all you know it's spaghetti
in Abi and KWord and clean in StarOffice. it all remains to be seen.

I encourage our esteemed membrs of the list who can afford the tiome and
knowhow to pool for this cause. be it for Kword or office or Abi.

-- 
Ira Abramov, GNU/Linux advocate.
(@- 
//\ "Akamai, Google, MicroSoft, Sun, Oracle, Intel, NASA, Sony, 
v_/_Python, JPG, PNG - CS masturbation is changing the world."
  -- C.S. answering to Linus, 3/7/2000


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Sun to release StarOffice as GPL

2000-07-16 Thread Yosi

Hi,

I have found a link on /. to the following article on ZDNet:
http://www.zdnet.com/sp/stories/news/0,4538,2604174,00.html

It seems, Sun will release StarOffice under the GNU Public license
"later this summer" (Sun's words). I wonder how easy or hard will it
be to hack the open sourced version of StarOffice to decently support
Hebrew.

Yosi

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