Re: Update: eVrit e-book Reader
On Mon, Feb 21, 2011 at 12:01 PM, Nadav Har'El n...@math.technion.ac.ilwrote: On Sun, Feb 20, 2011, Lior Kaplan wrote about Re: Update: eVrit e-book Reader: Did you get any kind of source or offer for the source as the licenses require? Kaplan I am not a lawyer and haven't paid attention to every little detail in the GPL, so maybe I'm asking a stupid question: does the GPL really say that you must give the source, or offer the source from your own site? What I mean is, if someone is selling a device running some unmodified version of Linux, and a couple other unmodified programs, isn't it enough for them to just say that, and you can get it from those projects' own official sites? Nadav. First, you should let the users know about the license itself and the copyrights the code has. Most manufactures just add a small paper with the list of software and their license or refer the users to a page in their website. When ever you distribute GPL code you are obligated to give the user an option to get the source. How you do that can vary from sending a CD with the source to download the files from your or someone else's website. But in any case your responsible to make sure the user can get the sources if he wants to. ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Update: eVrit e-book Reader
On Sun, Feb 20, 2011, Lior Kaplan wrote about Re: Update: eVrit e-book Reader: Did you get any kind of source or offer for the source as the licenses require? Kaplan I am not a lawyer and haven't paid attention to every little detail in the GPL, so maybe I'm asking a stupid question: does the GPL really say that you must give the source, or offer the source from your own site? What I mean is, if someone is selling a device running some unmodified version of Linux, and a couple other unmodified programs, isn't it enough for them to just say that, and you can get it from those projects' own official sites? Nadav. -- Nadav Har'El| Monday, Feb 21 2011, 17 Adar I 5771 n...@math.technion.ac.il |- Phone +972-523-790466, ICQ 13349191 |It's hard to fly like an eagle when http://nadav.harel.org.il |you're surrounded by turkeys. ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Update: eVrit e-book Reader
On Feb 21, 2011, at 12:01 PM, Nadav Har'El wrote: I am not a lawyer and haven't paid attention to every little detail in the GPL, so maybe I'm asking a stupid question: does the GPL really say that you must give the source, or offer the source from your own site? What I mean is, if someone is selling a device running some unmodified version of Linux, and a couple other unmodified programs, isn't it enough for them to just say that, and you can get it from those projects' own official sites? Or since the eVrit is just a PanDigital Novel with NDS' DRM software (which I'm sure is not open source) and some publicly available Hebrew fonts, can they just refer you to PanDigital? Geoff. -- Geoffrey S. Mendelson, N3OWJ/4X1GM Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to misquote it. ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Update: eVrit e-book Reader
It is my understanding that that someone must archive his own copy of the relevant source files and make them available to people who use the device. One of the reasons is because the seller has no control over the projects' official Websites, and in the future the versions available from them may differ from the version actually used by the device (for example, due to security fixes). --- Omer On Mon, 2011-02-21 at 12:01 +0200, Nadav Har'El wrote: On Sun, Feb 20, 2011, Lior Kaplan wrote about Re: Update: eVrit e-book Reader: Did you get any kind of source or offer for the source as the licenses require? Kaplan I am not a lawyer and haven't paid attention to every little detail in the GPL, so maybe I'm asking a stupid question: does the GPL really say that you must give the source, or offer the source from your own site? What I mean is, if someone is selling a device running some unmodified version of Linux, and a couple other unmodified programs, isn't it enough for them to just say that, and you can get it from those projects' own official sites? -- What happens if one mixes together evolution with time travel to the past? See: http://www.zak.co.il/a/stuff/opinions/eng/evol_tm.html My own blog is at http://www.zak.co.il/tddpirate/ My opinions, as expressed in this E-mail message, are mine alone. They do not represent the official policy of any organization with which I may be affiliated in any way. WARNING TO SPAMMERS: at http://www.zak.co.il/spamwarning.html ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Update: eVrit e-book Reader
On Feb 21, 2011, at 12:18 PM, Omer Zak wrote: It is my understanding that that someone must archive his own copy of the relevant source files and make them available to people who use the device. Is that necessary with an Android device? I'm not sure if the eVrit is one or not. Some of the ebook readers on the market are. Geoff. -- Geoffrey S. Mendelson, N3OWJ/4X1GM Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to misquote it. ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Update: eVrit e-book Reader
On Mon, Feb 21, 2011 at 12:14 PM, geoffrey mendelson geoffreymendel...@gmail.com wrote: On Feb 21, 2011, at 12:01 PM, Nadav Har'El wrote: What I mean is, if someone is selling a device running some unmodified version of Linux, and a couple other unmodified programs, isn't it enough for them to just say that, and you can get it from those projects' own official sites? IANAL either. You've been warned. Section 6d of GPL (http://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl.html) says you can refer to a repository operated by a 3rd party. The details (e.g., URL) must be delivered to your customer. The tricky part is the clause (inside 6d) that says, you remain obligated to ensure that it is available [it is the server on which the source is hosted]. This mean, as far as I understand, that _you_ are responsible for maintaining availability even if, say, the original provider disappears from the face of the Earth. You can do, e.g., the following. 1. Provide object code from your website. 2. Provide the source code URL from the same website. 3. Keep a copy. 4. If the original source is moved then change item 2 above. 5. If the original source disappears altogether put your copy somewhere and change item 2 above. NB, as far as I understand it you cannot simply give the original URL in the documentation you provided a customer - you must have a means to maintain the pointer if it changes. If you do what is described above you can provide your URL. You also have the written offer option (Sections 6b and 6c). Or since the eVrit is just a PanDigital Novel with NDS' DRM software (which I'm sure is not open source) and some publicly available Hebrew fonts, can they just refer you to PanDigital? -- Oleg Goldshmidt | p...@goldshmidt.org ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Update: eVrit e-book Reader
Did you get any kind of source or offer for the source as the licenses require? Kaplan 2011/2/17 Amichai Rotman amic...@iglu.org.il Hi all, Just wanted to share my experience with this little device... As some of you know, I asked which one should I buy: Amazon Kindle or this one. I am glad I have bought this one. It's all I need! I have 130 books on the internal 1.2GB memory and I still have lots of space. I bought it so I can carry around all those 1000+ pages technical books. Pros: Runs Linux! Small size. Light weight. Lots of space (can work with an MicroSD card, up to 32GB). Supports Hebrew (none of the other readers out there do). Long battery life. Cons: e-vrit eshop: Very uncomfortable to browse the e-vrit website and shop for books (Both from the desktop and from the device). While browsing from the device, it opens a page on the local FS that asks you to follow a link to enter the online shop. This page comes up after connecting to the WiFi network, so they could easily take you there directly after the connection was made... You cannot search for books by author, and if you find an author you like, it is not possible to click the name to access all the books available by that author. This is true for both the device and the desktop sites. Note: The site accessible from the device is maintained by Newpan and the site accessible from the desktop is maintained by Steimazky A small number of books are available on the shop. No Sci-Fi books at all. No old books (those books I bought as a kid and are out of print are great candidates for this format). When listening to MP3 files - even with the volume all the way up, it was too low to hear in a noisy environment. Granted - I only tested Podcasts, not music. Slow response while switching between books and display modes (full screen, back to the main menu). flipping pages work fast, though. Terrible for photos / pictures. Too dark, no colors and slow. The books' covers and in-book diagrams and line art look great! User Experience: As I mentioned, I am very happy with the device. It is very light and under the right lighting conditions it is very clear and fun to read from. Using it under the sun was even better than under florescent light. I downloaded a sample book from the Barns Noble site (what they call a 'NookBook) and transfered it to the device directly (an .epub file) - and begun reading immediately! no DRM, no conversion - out of the download! I called their Customer Support (voice - I needed to hear it) and asked if it is because it's a sample. the representative said the sample is technically the same as the full book! Over the course of the last three years I've read very few books, mostly technical books by the computer, but since I've bought this device I have read more than 70 pages of a Hebrew thriller, and a few pages of some technical books and got the epub version of a 1500 page book I was wondering how to carry around with me... Conclusion: Very good buy for those of you who need the Hebrew support. Not very expensive. No dual display. No color display - but perfect for reading books! I hope I helped someone out there to reach a decision... Amichai. ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Update: eVrit e-book Reader
I have sent a guy in NDS a request, and he emailed the tarball they needed to release. Shalom, The source code can be found at: ftp gate.nds.com username - uboot password - 9E8asteH 2011/2/20 Lior Kaplan kaplanl...@gmail.com Did you get any kind of source or offer for the source as the licenses require? Kaplan 2011/2/17 Amichai Rotman amic...@iglu.org.il Hi all, Just wanted to share my experience with this little device... As some of you know, I asked which one should I buy: Amazon Kindle or this one. I am glad I have bought this one. It's all I need! I have 130 books on the internal 1.2GB memory and I still have lots of space. I bought it so I can carry around all those 1000+ pages technical books. Pros: Runs Linux! Small size. Light weight. Lots of space (can work with an MicroSD card, up to 32GB). Supports Hebrew (none of the other readers out there do). Long battery life. Cons: e-vrit eshop: Very uncomfortable to browse the e-vrit website and shop for books (Both from the desktop and from the device). While browsing from the device, it opens a page on the local FS that asks you to follow a link to enter the online shop. This page comes up after connecting to the WiFi network, so they could easily take you there directly after the connection was made... You cannot search for books by author, and if you find an author you like, it is not possible to click the name to access all the books available by that author. This is true for both the device and the desktop sites. Note: The site accessible from the device is maintained by Newpan and the site accessible from the desktop is maintained by Steimazky A small number of books are available on the shop. No Sci-Fi books at all. No old books (those books I bought as a kid and are out of print are great candidates for this format). When listening to MP3 files - even with the volume all the way up, it was too low to hear in a noisy environment. Granted - I only tested Podcasts, not music. Slow response while switching between books and display modes (full screen, back to the main menu). flipping pages work fast, though. Terrible for photos / pictures. Too dark, no colors and slow. The books' covers and in-book diagrams and line art look great! User Experience: As I mentioned, I am very happy with the device. It is very light and under the right lighting conditions it is very clear and fun to read from. Using it under the sun was even better than under florescent light. I downloaded a sample book from the Barns Noble site (what they call a 'NookBook) and transfered it to the device directly (an .epub file) - and begun reading immediately! no DRM, no conversion - out of the download! I called their Customer Support (voice - I needed to hear it) and asked if it is because it's a sample. the representative said the sample is technically the same as the full book! Over the course of the last three years I've read very few books, mostly technical books by the computer, but since I've bought this device I have read more than 70 pages of a Hebrew thriller, and a few pages of some technical books and got the epub version of a 1500 page book I was wondering how to carry around with me... Conclusion: Very good buy for those of you who need the Hebrew support. Not very expensive. No dual display. No color display - but perfect for reading books! I hope I helped someone out there to reach a decision... Amichai. ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Update: eVrit e-book Reader
2011/2/20 Elazar Leibovich elaz...@gmail.com I have sent a guy in NDS a request, and he emailed the tarball they needed to release. Shalom, The source code can be found at: ftp gate.nds.com username - uboot password - 9E8asteH $ telnet gate.nds.com ftp Trying 192.118.32.6... Connected to gate.nds.com. Escape character is '^]'. 220 Welcome to NDS Israel FTP service. user uboot 331 Please specify the password. pass 9E8asteH 530 Login incorrect. ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Update: eVrit e-book Reader
Hi all, Just wanted to share my experience with this little device... As some of you know, I asked which one should I buy: Amazon Kindle or this one. I am glad I have bought this one. It's all I need! I have 130 books on the internal 1.2GB memory and I still have lots of space. I bought it so I can carry around all those 1000+ pages technical books. Pros: Runs Linux! Small size. Light weight. Lots of space (can work with an MicroSD card, up to 32GB). Supports Hebrew (none of the other readers out there do). Long battery life. Cons: e-vrit eshop: Very uncomfortable to browse the e-vrit website and shop for books (Both from the desktop and from the device). While browsing from the device, it opens a page on the local FS that asks you to follow a link to enter the online shop. This page comes up after connecting to the WiFi network, so they could easily take you there directly after the connection was made... You cannot search for books by author, and if you find an author you like, it is not possible to click the name to access all the books available by that author. This is true for both the device and the desktop sites. Note: The site accessible from the device is maintained by Newpan and the site accessible from the desktop is maintained by Steimazky A small number of books are available on the shop. No Sci-Fi books at all. No old books (those books I bought as a kid and are out of print are great candidates for this format). When listening to MP3 files - even with the volume all the way up, it was too low to hear in a noisy environment. Granted - I only tested Podcasts, not music. Slow response while switching between books and display modes (full screen, back to the main menu). flipping pages work fast, though. Terrible for photos / pictures. Too dark, no colors and slow. The books' covers and in-book diagrams and line art look great! User Experience: As I mentioned, I am very happy with the device. It is very light and under the right lighting conditions it is very clear and fun to read from. Using it under the sun was even better than under florescent light. I downloaded a sample book from the Barns Noble site (what they call a 'NookBook) and transfered it to the device directly (an .epub file) - and begun reading immediately! no DRM, no conversion - out of the download! I called their Customer Support (voice - I needed to hear it) and asked if it is because it's a sample. the representative said the sample is technically the same as the full book! Over the course of the last three years I've read very few books, mostly technical books by the computer, but since I've bought this device I have read more than 70 pages of a Hebrew thriller, and a few pages of some technical books and got the epub version of a 1500 page book I was wondering how to carry around with me... Conclusion: Very good buy for those of you who need the Hebrew support. Not very expensive. No dual display. No color display - but perfect for reading books! I hope I helped someone out there to reach a decision... Amichai. ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Update: eVrit e-book Reader
in addition to this discussion - i found out that the nook cannot be delivered to israel neither from bn, nor from bestbuy (which sells it in the USA). i considered getting it via mustop- but then i found that online book purchases won't work using an IP address outside the USA. this is quite a bummer... --guy On Thu, 2011-02-17 at 11:57 +0200, Amichai Rotman wrote: Hi all, Just wanted to share my experience with this little device... As some of you know, I asked which one should I buy: Amazon Kindle or this one. I am glad I have bought this one. It's all I need! I have 130 books on the internal 1.2GB memory and I still have lots of space. I bought it so I can carry around all those 1000+ pages technical books. Pros: Runs Linux! Small size. Light weight. Lots of space (can work with an MicroSD card, up to 32GB). Supports Hebrew (none of the other readers out there do). Long battery life. Cons: e-vrit eshop: Very uncomfortable to browse the e-vrit website and shop for books (Both from the desktop and from the device). While browsing from the device, it opens a page on the local FS that asks you to follow a link to enter the online shop. This page comes up after connecting to the WiFi network, so they could easily take you there directly after the connection was made... You cannot search for books by author, and if you find an author you like, it is not possible to click the name to access all the books available by that author. This is true for both the device and the desktop sites. Note: The site accessible from the device is maintained by Newpan and the site accessible from the desktop is maintained by Steimazky A small number of books are available on the shop. No Sci-Fi books at all. No old books (those books I bought as a kid and are out of print are great candidates for this format). When listening to MP3 files - even with the volume all the way up, it was too low to hear in a noisy environment. Granted - I only tested Podcasts, not music. Slow response while switching between books and display modes (full screen, back to the main menu). flipping pages work fast, though. Terrible for photos / pictures. Too dark, no colors and slow. The books' covers and in-book diagrams and line art look great! User Experience: As I mentioned, I am very happy with the device. It is very light and under the right lighting conditions it is very clear and fun to read from. Using it under the sun was even better than under florescent light. I downloaded a sample book from the Barns Noble site (what they call a 'NookBook) and transfered it to the device directly (an .epub file) - and begun reading immediately! no DRM, no conversion - out of the download! I called their Customer Support (voice - I needed to hear it) and asked if it is because it's a sample. the representative said the sample is technically the same as the full book! Over the course of the last three years I've read very few books, mostly technical books by the computer, but since I've bought this device I have read more than 70 pages of a Hebrew thriller, and a few pages of some technical books and got the epub version of a 1500 page book I was wondering how to carry around with me... Conclusion: Very good buy for those of you who need the Hebrew support. Not very expensive. No dual display. No color display - but perfect for reading books! I hope I helped someone out there to reach a decision... Amichai. ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Update: eVrit e-book Reader
Will they work using an open US-based proxy? ---MAV Marc. Volovic +972-54-467-6764 marcvolo...@me.com Sent from my iPhone On Feb 17, 2011, at 12:39, guy keren c...@actcom.co.il wrote: in addition to this discussion - i found out that the nook cannot be delivered to israel neither from bn, nor from bestbuy (which sells it in the USA). i considered getting it via mustop- but then i found that online book purchases won't work using an IP address outside the USA. this is quite a bummer... --guy On Thu, 2011-02-17 at 11:57 +0200, Amichai Rotman wrote: Hi all, Just wanted to share my experience with this little device... As some of you know, I asked which one should I buy: Amazon Kindle or this one. I am glad I have bought this one. It's all I need! I have 130 books on the internal 1.2GB memory and I still have lots of space. I bought it so I can carry around all those 1000+ pages technical books. Pros: Runs Linux! Small size. Light weight. Lots of space (can work with an MicroSD card, up to 32GB). Supports Hebrew (none of the other readers out there do). Long battery life. Cons: e-vrit eshop: Very uncomfortable to browse the e-vrit website and shop for books (Both from the desktop and from the device). While browsing from the device, it opens a page on the local FS that asks you to follow a link to enter the online shop. This page comes up after connecting to the WiFi network, so they could easily take you there directly after the connection was made... You cannot search for books by author, and if you find an author you like, it is not possible to click the name to access all the books available by that author. This is true for both the device and the desktop sites. Note: The site accessible from the device is maintained by Newpan and the site accessible from the desktop is maintained by Steimazky A small number of books are available on the shop. No Sci-Fi books at all. No old books (those books I bought as a kid and are out of print are great candidates for this format). When listening to MP3 files - even with the volume all the way up, it was too low to hear in a noisy environment. Granted - I only tested Podcasts, not music. Slow response while switching between books and display modes (full screen, back to the main menu). flipping pages work fast, though. Terrible for photos / pictures. Too dark, no colors and slow. The books' covers and in-book diagrams and line art look great! User Experience: As I mentioned, I am very happy with the device. It is very light and under the right lighting conditions it is very clear and fun to read from. Using it under the sun was even better than under florescent light. I downloaded a sample book from the Barns Noble site (what they call a 'NookBook) and transfered it to the device directly (an .epub file) - and begun reading immediately! no DRM, no conversion - out of the download! I called their Customer Support (voice - I needed to hear it) and asked if it is because it's a sample. the representative said the sample is technically the same as the full book! Over the course of the last three years I've read very few books, mostly technical books by the computer, but since I've bought this device I have read more than 70 pages of a Hebrew thriller, and a few pages of some technical books and got the epub version of a 1500 page book I was wondering how to carry around with me... Conclusion: Very good buy for those of you who need the Hebrew support. Not very expensive. No dual display. No color display - but perfect for reading books! I hope I helped someone out there to reach a decision... Amichai. ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Update: eVrit e-book Reader
On Feb 17, 2011, at 11:57 AM, Amichai Rotman wrote: Hi all, Terrible for photos / pictures. Too dark, no colors and slow. The books' covers and in-book diagrams and line art look great! User Experience: As I mentioned, I am very happy with the device. It is very light and under the right lighting conditions it is very clear and fun to read from. Using it under the sun was even better than under florescent light. I downloaded a sample book from the Barns Noble site (what they call a 'NookBook) and transfered it to the device directly (an .epub file) - and begun reading immediately! no DRM, no conversion - out of the download! I called their Customer Support (voice - I needed to hear it) and asked if it is because it's a sample. the representative said the sample is technically the same as the full book! Over the course of the last three years I've read very few books, mostly technical books by the computer, but since I've bought this device I have read more than 70 pages of a Hebrew thriller, and a few pages of some technical books and got the epub version of a 1500 page book I was wondering how to carry around with me... Conclusion: Very good buy for those of you who need the Hebrew support. Not very expensive. No dual display. No color display - but perfect for reading books! What does it do with full page scans of books (jpeg images as PDF files)? The nook displays them full screen, with no rotate, zoom or contrast adjustment (makes reading colored ones difficult), the Kindle 3 (but not the original nor 2) has those adjustments. I have several thousand electronics and other technical books like that. You may also want to look at Calibre, it's an open source manager for eBooks, which includes format conversions, etc. It's available for Linux, Windows and Mac and supports the Kindle, nook, iPad and many other readers. If it does not support the eVrit directly, you can still use it to organize your library and do format conversions. If you are looking for modern Sci-Fi, Baen books has a free downloadable library. They have also issued free CDs of books (and in some cases entire series) that are not available on line from them, but you can download them via bit torrent and directly online. For the books: http://www.baen.com/library/ For the CDs: http://baencd.thefifthimperium.com/ Geoff. -- Geoffrey S. Mendelson, N3OWJ/4X1GM Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to misquote it. ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Update: eVrit e-book Reader
2011/2/17 Amichai Rotman amic...@iglu.org.il: Hi all, Just wanted to share my experience with this little device... As some of you know, I asked which one should I buy: Amazon Kindle or this one. I am glad I have bought this one. It's all I need! I have 130 books on the internal 1.2GB memory and I still have lots of space. I bought it so I can carry around all those 1000+ pages technical books. Pros: Runs Linux! Small size. Light weight. Lots of space (can work with an MicroSD card, up to 32GB). Supports Hebrew (none of the other readers out there do). Long battery life. Cons: e-vrit eshop: Very uncomfortable to browse the e-vrit website and shop for books (Both from the desktop and from the device). While browsing from the device, it opens a page on the local FS that asks you to follow a link to enter the online shop. This page comes up after connecting to the WiFi network, so they could easily take you there directly after the connection was made... You cannot search for books by author, and if you find an author you like, it is not possible to click the name to access all the books available by that author. This is true for both the device and the desktop sites. Note: The site accessible from the device is maintained by Newpan and the site accessible from the desktop is maintained by Steimazky A small number of books are available on the shop. No Sci-Fi books at all. No old books (those books I bought as a kid and are out of print are great candidates for this format). When listening to MP3 files - even with the volume all the way up, it was too low to hear in a noisy environment. Granted - I only tested Podcasts, not music. Slow response while switching between books and display modes (full screen, back to the main menu). flipping pages work fast, though. Terrible for photos / pictures. Too dark, no colors and slow. The books' covers and in-book diagrams and line art look great! User Experience: As I mentioned, I am very happy with the device. It is very light and under the right lighting conditions it is very clear and fun to read from. Using it under the sun was even better than under florescent light. I downloaded a sample book from the Barns Noble site (what they call a 'NookBook) and transfered it to the device directly (an .epub file) - and begun reading immediately! no DRM, no conversion - out of the download! I called their Customer Support (voice - I needed to hear it) and asked if it is because it's a sample. the representative said the sample is technically the same as the full book! Over the course of the last three years I've read very few books, mostly technical books by the computer, but since I've bought this device I have read more than 70 pages of a Hebrew thriller, and a few pages of some technical books and got the epub version of a 1500 page book I was wondering how to carry around with me... Conclusion: Very good buy for those of you who need the Hebrew support. Not very expensive. No dual display. No color display - but perfect for reading books! I hope I helped someone out there to reach a decision... Amichai. Thanks for the info, I was contemplating this device just yesterday. Tell me, how does it handle PDF files in Hebrew? In English? Images in PDF files? Also, I often highlight text in books: yes, I'm that bad! I even fold the pages to make bookmarks? Does this device support highlighting in PDF documents? Bookmarks in PDF documents? Thanks! -- Dotan Cohen http://gibberish.co.il http://what-is-what.com ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Update: eVrit e-book Reader
On Thursday 17 February 2011 11:57:38 Amichai Rotman wrote: I downloaded a sample book from the Barns Noble site (what they call a 'NookBook) and transfered it to the device directly (an .epub file) From its name, I was sure that the NookBook was specialized to pornographic literature. -- Stan Goodman Qiryat Tiv'on Israel ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Update: eVrit e-book Reader
On Feb 17, 2011, at 6:36 PM, Stan Goodman wrote: On Thursday 17 February 2011 11:57:38 Amichai Rotman wrote: I downloaded a sample book from the Barns Noble site (what they call a 'NookBook) and transfered it to the device directly (an .epub file) From its name, I was sure that the NookBook was specialized to pornographic literature. Actually I think it's nookBook. The name on their website, the unit itself and charger have a lower case n. The accessories only have a lower case n on them. Geoff. -- Geoffrey S. Mendelson, N3OWJ/4X1GM Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to misquote it. ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Update: eVrit e-book Reader
I didn't mention this because I wasn't at home when I wrote the post, but I am using Calibre with the e-vrit. The version on the Ubuntu 10.04 was too old and didn't detect the reader. I added a PPA (PM me to get the details) and upgraded it to version 0.7.44. Now it detects the reader as a bq Avant and it works perfectly! If I choose to move a file to the device, it converts it on the fly to epub and copies it to either the Main memory or the card (both apear on the top. PDF files are hard to convert. Now that it finds my device, I'll try again and let you know. Thanks for the Sci-Fi referral. I'll appreciate more URLs for free e-book downloads. Amichai. On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 15:33, geoffrey mendelson geoffreymendel...@gmail.com wrote: On Feb 17, 2011, at 11:57 AM, Amichai Rotman wrote: Hi all, Terrible for photos / pictures. Too dark, no colors and slow. The books' covers and in-book diagrams and line art look great! User Experience: As I mentioned, I am very happy with the device. It is very light and under the right lighting conditions it is very clear and fun to read from. Using it under the sun was even better than under florescent light. I downloaded a sample book from the Barns Noble site (what they call a 'NookBook) and transfered it to the device directly (an .epub file) - and begun reading immediately! no DRM, no conversion - out of the download! I called their Customer Support (voice - I needed to hear it) and asked if it is because it's a sample. the representative said the sample is technically the same as the full book! Over the course of the last three years I've read very few books, mostly technical books by the computer, but since I've bought this device I have read more than 70 pages of a Hebrew thriller, and a few pages of some technical books and got the epub version of a 1500 page book I was wondering how to carry around with me... Conclusion: Very good buy for those of you who need the Hebrew support. Not very expensive. No dual display. No color display - but perfect for reading books! What does it do with full page scans of books (jpeg images as PDF files)? The nook displays them full screen, with no rotate, zoom or contrast adjustment (makes reading colored ones difficult), the Kindle 3 (but not the original nor 2) has those adjustments. I have several thousand electronics and other technical books like that. You may also want to look at Calibre, it's an open source manager for eBooks, which includes format conversions, etc. It's available for Linux, Windows and Mac and supports the Kindle, nook, iPad and many other readers. If it does not support the eVrit directly, you can still use it to organize your library and do format conversions. If you are looking for modern Sci-Fi, Baen books has a free downloadable library. They have also issued free CDs of books (and in some cases entire series) that are not available on line from them, but you can download them via bit torrent and directly online. For the books: http://www.baen.com/library/ For the CDs: http://baencd.thefifthimperium.com/ Geoff. -- Geoffrey S. Mendelson, N3OWJ/4X1GM Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to misquote it. ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Update: eVrit e-book Reader
Re PDF files, I can give you my experience using kindle, but it should apply equally to all readers with a 6 screen. It works if you are young and have eagle eyes, or the book is specially formatted with very large letters and small page size. Otherwise, it looks like insect dropping on the page. It is possible to increase the size up to 300% and also rotate the image, which makes the individual words eminently readable, but now you have to navigate sideways with a 5-way button that is not really designed to do that, but rather to move between menu items occasionally. In other words, it is a useless experience for a good portion of the books. Scanned images collections are even worse. You could in theory use calibre to convert. It works well for text and maybe inline images (which suffer from the same problems as pdf pages, either you lose detail or you have to see the image as a series of overlapping rectangular pieces), but it messes up tables, lists and everything that is written in more than one column per page. The content is converted out of order. Z. 2011/2/17 Amichai Rotman amic...@iglu.org.il I didn't mention this because I wasn't at home when I wrote the post, but I am using Calibre with the e-vrit. The version on the Ubuntu 10.04 was too old and didn't detect the reader. I added a PPA (PM me to get the details) and upgraded it to version 0.7.44. Now it detects the reader as a bq Avant and it works perfectly! If I choose to move a file to the device, it converts it on the fly to epub and copies it to either the Main memory or the card (both apear on the top. PDF files are hard to convert. Now that it finds my device, I'll try again and let you know. Thanks for the Sci-Fi referral. I'll appreciate more URLs for free e-book downloads. Amichai. On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 15:33, geoffrey mendelson geoffreymendel...@gmail.com wrote: On Feb 17, 2011, at 11:57 AM, Amichai Rotman wrote: Hi all, Terrible for photos / pictures. Too dark, no colors and slow. The books' covers and in-book diagrams and line art look great! User Experience: As I mentioned, I am very happy with the device. It is very light and under the right lighting conditions it is very clear and fun to read from. Using it under the sun was even better than under florescent light. I downloaded a sample book from the Barns Noble site (what they call a 'NookBook) and transfered it to the device directly (an .epub file) - and begun reading immediately! no DRM, no conversion - out of the download! I called their Customer Support (voice - I needed to hear it) and asked if it is because it's a sample. the representative said the sample is technically the same as the full book! Over the course of the last three years I've read very few books, mostly technical books by the computer, but since I've bought this device I have read more than 70 pages of a Hebrew thriller, and a few pages of some technical books and got the epub version of a 1500 page book I was wondering how to carry around with me... Conclusion: Very good buy for those of you who need the Hebrew support. Not very expensive. No dual display. No color display - but perfect for reading books! What does it do with full page scans of books (jpeg images as PDF files)? The nook displays them full screen, with no rotate, zoom or contrast adjustment (makes reading colored ones difficult), the Kindle 3 (but not the original nor 2) has those adjustments. I have several thousand electronics and other technical books like that. You may also want to look at Calibre, it's an open source manager for eBooks, which includes format conversions, etc. It's available for Linux, Windows and Mac and supports the Kindle, nook, iPad and many other readers. If it does not support the eVrit directly, you can still use it to organize your library and do format conversions. If you are looking for modern Sci-Fi, Baen books has a free downloadable library. They have also issued free CDs of books (and in some cases entire series) that are not available on line from them, but you can download them via bit torrent and directly online. For the books: http://www.baen.com/library/ For the CDs: http://baencd.thefifthimperium.com/ Geoff. -- Geoffrey S. Mendelson, N3OWJ/4X1GM Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to misquote it. ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il -- Check out my web site - www.words2u.net ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
