Re: [PATCH RFC] MAINTAINERS: Add section for subsystem shortname

2012-10-02 Thread Joe Perches
On Tue, 2012-10-02 at 15:13 +0200, Peter Senna Tschudin wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 3:08 PM, Ezequiel Garcia  wrote:
> > Just looking through media list I can spot lots of different subject 
> > schemes:
> >   [media] foo: fix some bug
> >   media: foo: fix some bug
> >   foo: fix some bug
> >   Some random text and fix some bug
> 
> According to:
> 
> http://yarchive.net/comp/linux/commit_messages.html
> 
> the subsystem short name is also important for whom is not working
> directly on that subsystem but may receive the E-mail with the
> patch...

Thread from awhile ago:
https://lkml.org/lkml/2010/11/16/245


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Re: [PATCH RFC] MAINTAINERS: Add section for subsystem shortname

2012-10-02 Thread Peter Senna Tschudin
On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 3:08 PM, Ezequiel Garcia  wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 9:53 AM, Peter Senna Tschudin
>  wrote:
>> On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 2:40 PM, Ezequiel Garcia  
>> wrote:
>>> On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 9:33 AM, Peter Senna Tschudin
>>>  wrote:
 On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 2:14 PM, Dan Carpenter  
 wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 02, 2012 at 01:57:04PM +0200, Peter Senna Tschudin wrote:
>> The shortname for a subsystem, that is primarly used when sending 
>> patches over E-mail, is not stored anywhere in the source code. Actually 
>> one need to dig git log or mailing list archives. There is no standard, 
>> and the Maintainer choose how to short name his/her subsystem. 
>> MAINTAINERS file is the right place for storing this information.
>>
>> U is the second letter of Subsystem.
>>
>> This will also enable automatic tools like scripts/get_maintainer.pl to 
>> provide the correct short name for each filename in the Kernel source 
>> tree.
>>
>
> This is pretty useless without a script to parse it.  Also none of
 With or without a script, there is no default way of finding the short
 name. Changing scripts/get_maintainer.pl to do it does not seems very
 complex.

>>>
>>> Perhaps you should do get_maintainer.pl changes yourself and then
>>> use it to test on some of your patches to see what subject it produces.
>> What are your doubts about this method of getting the short name?
>>
>
> No doubts so far since I haven't seen it in action.
> Some script results and more examples could help.
>
>>>
>>> Then it's easier to see if the proposal makes sense.
>>> A new rule / standard is something hard to push and we want to have as much
>>> facts as possible to make better decisions.
>> The fact is that currently there is no standard way of getting the
>> short name for a subsystem. My proposal fixes it allowing to look on
>> the MAINTAINERS file to see what short name to use.
>>
>
> There is no standard way of getting short name, and there isn't standard
> way of naming a patch either.
>
> Just looking through media list I can spot lots of different subject schemes:
>   [media] foo: fix some bug
>   media: foo: fix some bug
>   foo: fix some bug
>   Some random text and fix some bug

According to:

http://yarchive.net/comp/linux/commit_messages.html

the subsystem short name is also important for whom is not working
directly on that subsystem but may receive the E-mail with the
patch...


>
> Regards,
> Ezequiel.



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Re: [PATCH RFC] MAINTAINERS: Add section for subsystem shortname

2012-10-02 Thread Ezequiel Garcia
On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 9:53 AM, Peter Senna Tschudin
 wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 2:40 PM, Ezequiel Garcia  wrote:
>> On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 9:33 AM, Peter Senna Tschudin
>>  wrote:
>>> On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 2:14 PM, Dan Carpenter  
>>> wrote:
 On Tue, Oct 02, 2012 at 01:57:04PM +0200, Peter Senna Tschudin wrote:
> The shortname for a subsystem, that is primarly used when sending patches 
> over E-mail, is not stored anywhere in the source code. Actually one need 
> to dig git log or mailing list archives. There is no standard, and the 
> Maintainer choose how to short name his/her subsystem. MAINTAINERS file 
> is the right place for storing this information.
>
> U is the second letter of Subsystem.
>
> This will also enable automatic tools like scripts/get_maintainer.pl to 
> provide the correct short name for each filename in the Kernel source 
> tree.
>

 This is pretty useless without a script to parse it.  Also none of
>>> With or without a script, there is no default way of finding the short
>>> name. Changing scripts/get_maintainer.pl to do it does not seems very
>>> complex.
>>>
>>
>> Perhaps you should do get_maintainer.pl changes yourself and then
>> use it to test on some of your patches to see what subject it produces.
> What are your doubts about this method of getting the short name?
>

No doubts so far since I haven't seen it in action.
Some script results and more examples could help.

>>
>> Then it's easier to see if the proposal makes sense.
>> A new rule / standard is something hard to push and we want to have as much
>> facts as possible to make better decisions.
> The fact is that currently there is no standard way of getting the
> short name for a subsystem. My proposal fixes it allowing to look on
> the MAINTAINERS file to see what short name to use.
>

There is no standard way of getting short name, and there isn't standard
way of naming a patch either.

Just looking through media list I can spot lots of different subject schemes:
  [media] foo: fix some bug
  media: foo: fix some bug
  foo: fix some bug
  Some random text and fix some bug

Regards,
Ezequiel.
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Re: [PATCH RFC] MAINTAINERS: Add section for subsystem shortname

2012-10-02 Thread Peter Senna Tschudin
On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 2:40 PM, Ezequiel Garcia  wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 9:33 AM, Peter Senna Tschudin
>  wrote:
>> On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 2:14 PM, Dan Carpenter  
>> wrote:
>>> On Tue, Oct 02, 2012 at 01:57:04PM +0200, Peter Senna Tschudin wrote:
 The shortname for a subsystem, that is primarly used when sending patches 
 over E-mail, is not stored anywhere in the source code. Actually one need 
 to dig git log or mailing list archives. There is no standard, and the 
 Maintainer choose how to short name his/her subsystem. MAINTAINERS file is 
 the right place for storing this information.

 U is the second letter of Subsystem.

 This will also enable automatic tools like scripts/get_maintainer.pl to 
 provide the correct short name for each filename in the Kernel source tree.

>>>
>>> This is pretty useless without a script to parse it.  Also none of
>> With or without a script, there is no default way of finding the short
>> name. Changing scripts/get_maintainer.pl to do it does not seems very
>> complex.
>>
>
> Perhaps you should do get_maintainer.pl changes yourself and then
> use it to test on some of your patches to see what subject it produces.
What are your doubts about this method of getting the short name?

>
> Then it's easier to see if the proposal makes sense.
> A new rule / standard is something hard to push and we want to have as much
> facts as possible to make better decisions.
The fact is that currently there is no standard way of getting the
short name for a subsystem. My proposal fixes it allowing to look on
the MAINTAINERS file to see what short name to use.

>
> Thanks,
> Ezequiel.



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Re: [PATCH RFC] MAINTAINERS: Add section for subsystem shortname

2012-10-02 Thread Ezequiel Garcia
On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 9:33 AM, Peter Senna Tschudin
 wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 2:14 PM, Dan Carpenter  
> wrote:
>> On Tue, Oct 02, 2012 at 01:57:04PM +0200, Peter Senna Tschudin wrote:
>>> The shortname for a subsystem, that is primarly used when sending patches 
>>> over E-mail, is not stored anywhere in the source code. Actually one need 
>>> to dig git log or mailing list archives. There is no standard, and the 
>>> Maintainer choose how to short name his/her subsystem. MAINTAINERS file is 
>>> the right place for storing this information.
>>>
>>> U is the second letter of Subsystem.
>>>
>>> This will also enable automatic tools like scripts/get_maintainer.pl to 
>>> provide the correct short name for each filename in the Kernel source tree.
>>>
>>
>> This is pretty useless without a script to parse it.  Also none of
> With or without a script, there is no default way of finding the short
> name. Changing scripts/get_maintainer.pl to do it does not seems very
> complex.
>

Perhaps you should do get_maintainer.pl changes yourself and then
use it to test on some of your patches to see what subject it produces.

Then it's easier to see if the proposal makes sense.
A new rule / standard is something hard to push and we want to have as much
facts as possible to make better decisions.

Thanks,
Ezequiel.
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Re: [PATCH RFC] MAINTAINERS: Add section for subsystem shortname

2012-10-02 Thread Peter Senna Tschudin
On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 2:14 PM, Dan Carpenter  wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 02, 2012 at 01:57:04PM +0200, Peter Senna Tschudin wrote:
>> The shortname for a subsystem, that is primarly used when sending patches 
>> over E-mail, is not stored anywhere in the source code. Actually one need to 
>> dig git log or mailing list archives. There is no standard, and the 
>> Maintainer choose how to short name his/her subsystem. MAINTAINERS file is 
>> the right place for storing this information.
>>
>> U is the second letter of Subsystem.
>>
>> This will also enable automatic tools like scripts/get_maintainer.pl to 
>> provide the correct short name for each filename in the Kernel source tree.
>>
>
> This is pretty useless without a script to parse it.  Also none of
With or without a script, there is no default way of finding the short
name. Changing scripts/get_maintainer.pl to do it does not seems very
complex.

> subsystem names you chose as examples are correct.  Please line wrap
See? It's not easy to find three examples to put on the text. Can you
please provide three examples?

> your commit message at 72 characters.
Yes. I'll fix it.

Thank you,

Peter

>
> regards,
> dan carpenter
>



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Re: [PATCH RFC] MAINTAINERS: Add section for subsystem shortname

2012-10-02 Thread Dan Carpenter
On Tue, Oct 02, 2012 at 01:57:04PM +0200, Peter Senna Tschudin wrote:
> The shortname for a subsystem, that is primarly used when sending patches 
> over E-mail, is not stored anywhere in the source code. Actually one need to 
> dig git log or mailing list archives. There is no standard, and the 
> Maintainer choose how to short name his/her subsystem. MAINTAINERS file is 
> the right place for storing this information.
> 
> U is the second letter of Subsystem.
> 
> This will also enable automatic tools like scripts/get_maintainer.pl to 
> provide the correct short name for each filename in the Kernel source tree.
> 

This is pretty useless without a script to parse it.  Also none of
subsystem names you chose as examples are correct.  Please line wrap
your commit message at 72 characters.

regards,
dan carpenter

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Re: [PATCH RFC] MAINTAINERS: Add section for subsystem shortname

2012-10-02 Thread Dan Carpenter
On Tue, Oct 02, 2012 at 01:57:04PM +0200, Peter Senna Tschudin wrote:
 The shortname for a subsystem, that is primarly used when sending patches 
 over E-mail, is not stored anywhere in the source code. Actually one need to 
 dig git log or mailing list archives. There is no standard, and the 
 Maintainer choose how to short name his/her subsystem. MAINTAINERS file is 
 the right place for storing this information.
 
 U is the second letter of Subsystem.
 
 This will also enable automatic tools like scripts/get_maintainer.pl to 
 provide the correct short name for each filename in the Kernel source tree.
 

This is pretty useless without a script to parse it.  Also none of
subsystem names you chose as examples are correct.  Please line wrap
your commit message at 72 characters.

regards,
dan carpenter

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Re: [PATCH RFC] MAINTAINERS: Add section for subsystem shortname

2012-10-02 Thread Peter Senna Tschudin
On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 2:14 PM, Dan Carpenter dan.carpen...@oracle.com wrote:
 On Tue, Oct 02, 2012 at 01:57:04PM +0200, Peter Senna Tschudin wrote:
 The shortname for a subsystem, that is primarly used when sending patches 
 over E-mail, is not stored anywhere in the source code. Actually one need to 
 dig git log or mailing list archives. There is no standard, and the 
 Maintainer choose how to short name his/her subsystem. MAINTAINERS file is 
 the right place for storing this information.

 U is the second letter of Subsystem.

 This will also enable automatic tools like scripts/get_maintainer.pl to 
 provide the correct short name for each filename in the Kernel source tree.


 This is pretty useless without a script to parse it.  Also none of
With or without a script, there is no default way of finding the short
name. Changing scripts/get_maintainer.pl to do it does not seems very
complex.

 subsystem names you chose as examples are correct.  Please line wrap
See? It's not easy to find three examples to put on the text. Can you
please provide three examples?

 your commit message at 72 characters.
Yes. I'll fix it.

Thank you,

Peter


 regards,
 dan carpenter




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Re: [PATCH RFC] MAINTAINERS: Add section for subsystem shortname

2012-10-02 Thread Ezequiel Garcia
On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 9:33 AM, Peter Senna Tschudin
peter.se...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 2:14 PM, Dan Carpenter dan.carpen...@oracle.com 
 wrote:
 On Tue, Oct 02, 2012 at 01:57:04PM +0200, Peter Senna Tschudin wrote:
 The shortname for a subsystem, that is primarly used when sending patches 
 over E-mail, is not stored anywhere in the source code. Actually one need 
 to dig git log or mailing list archives. There is no standard, and the 
 Maintainer choose how to short name his/her subsystem. MAINTAINERS file is 
 the right place for storing this information.

 U is the second letter of Subsystem.

 This will also enable automatic tools like scripts/get_maintainer.pl to 
 provide the correct short name for each filename in the Kernel source tree.


 This is pretty useless without a script to parse it.  Also none of
 With or without a script, there is no default way of finding the short
 name. Changing scripts/get_maintainer.pl to do it does not seems very
 complex.


Perhaps you should do get_maintainer.pl changes yourself and then
use it to test on some of your patches to see what subject it produces.

Then it's easier to see if the proposal makes sense.
A new rule / standard is something hard to push and we want to have as much
facts as possible to make better decisions.

Thanks,
Ezequiel.
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Re: [PATCH RFC] MAINTAINERS: Add section for subsystem shortname

2012-10-02 Thread Peter Senna Tschudin
On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 2:40 PM, Ezequiel Garcia elezegar...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 9:33 AM, Peter Senna Tschudin
 peter.se...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 2:14 PM, Dan Carpenter dan.carpen...@oracle.com 
 wrote:
 On Tue, Oct 02, 2012 at 01:57:04PM +0200, Peter Senna Tschudin wrote:
 The shortname for a subsystem, that is primarly used when sending patches 
 over E-mail, is not stored anywhere in the source code. Actually one need 
 to dig git log or mailing list archives. There is no standard, and the 
 Maintainer choose how to short name his/her subsystem. MAINTAINERS file is 
 the right place for storing this information.

 U is the second letter of Subsystem.

 This will also enable automatic tools like scripts/get_maintainer.pl to 
 provide the correct short name for each filename in the Kernel source tree.


 This is pretty useless without a script to parse it.  Also none of
 With or without a script, there is no default way of finding the short
 name. Changing scripts/get_maintainer.pl to do it does not seems very
 complex.


 Perhaps you should do get_maintainer.pl changes yourself and then
 use it to test on some of your patches to see what subject it produces.
What are your doubts about this method of getting the short name?


 Then it's easier to see if the proposal makes sense.
 A new rule / standard is something hard to push and we want to have as much
 facts as possible to make better decisions.
The fact is that currently there is no standard way of getting the
short name for a subsystem. My proposal fixes it allowing to look on
the MAINTAINERS file to see what short name to use.


 Thanks,
 Ezequiel.



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Re: [PATCH RFC] MAINTAINERS: Add section for subsystem shortname

2012-10-02 Thread Ezequiel Garcia
On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 9:53 AM, Peter Senna Tschudin
peter.se...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 2:40 PM, Ezequiel Garcia elezegar...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 9:33 AM, Peter Senna Tschudin
 peter.se...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 2:14 PM, Dan Carpenter dan.carpen...@oracle.com 
 wrote:
 On Tue, Oct 02, 2012 at 01:57:04PM +0200, Peter Senna Tschudin wrote:
 The shortname for a subsystem, that is primarly used when sending patches 
 over E-mail, is not stored anywhere in the source code. Actually one need 
 to dig git log or mailing list archives. There is no standard, and the 
 Maintainer choose how to short name his/her subsystem. MAINTAINERS file 
 is the right place for storing this information.

 U is the second letter of Subsystem.

 This will also enable automatic tools like scripts/get_maintainer.pl to 
 provide the correct short name for each filename in the Kernel source 
 tree.


 This is pretty useless without a script to parse it.  Also none of
 With or without a script, there is no default way of finding the short
 name. Changing scripts/get_maintainer.pl to do it does not seems very
 complex.


 Perhaps you should do get_maintainer.pl changes yourself and then
 use it to test on some of your patches to see what subject it produces.
 What are your doubts about this method of getting the short name?


No doubts so far since I haven't seen it in action.
Some script results and more examples could help.


 Then it's easier to see if the proposal makes sense.
 A new rule / standard is something hard to push and we want to have as much
 facts as possible to make better decisions.
 The fact is that currently there is no standard way of getting the
 short name for a subsystem. My proposal fixes it allowing to look on
 the MAINTAINERS file to see what short name to use.


There is no standard way of getting short name, and there isn't standard
way of naming a patch either.

Just looking through media list I can spot lots of different subject schemes:
  [media] foo: fix some bug
  media: foo: fix some bug
  foo: fix some bug
  Some random text and fix some bug

Regards,
Ezequiel.
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Re: [PATCH RFC] MAINTAINERS: Add section for subsystem shortname

2012-10-02 Thread Peter Senna Tschudin
On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 3:08 PM, Ezequiel Garcia elezegar...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 9:53 AM, Peter Senna Tschudin
 peter.se...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 2:40 PM, Ezequiel Garcia elezegar...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 9:33 AM, Peter Senna Tschudin
 peter.se...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 2:14 PM, Dan Carpenter dan.carpen...@oracle.com 
 wrote:
 On Tue, Oct 02, 2012 at 01:57:04PM +0200, Peter Senna Tschudin wrote:
 The shortname for a subsystem, that is primarly used when sending 
 patches over E-mail, is not stored anywhere in the source code. Actually 
 one need to dig git log or mailing list archives. There is no standard, 
 and the Maintainer choose how to short name his/her subsystem. 
 MAINTAINERS file is the right place for storing this information.

 U is the second letter of Subsystem.

 This will also enable automatic tools like scripts/get_maintainer.pl to 
 provide the correct short name for each filename in the Kernel source 
 tree.


 This is pretty useless without a script to parse it.  Also none of
 With or without a script, there is no default way of finding the short
 name. Changing scripts/get_maintainer.pl to do it does not seems very
 complex.


 Perhaps you should do get_maintainer.pl changes yourself and then
 use it to test on some of your patches to see what subject it produces.
 What are your doubts about this method of getting the short name?


 No doubts so far since I haven't seen it in action.
 Some script results and more examples could help.


 Then it's easier to see if the proposal makes sense.
 A new rule / standard is something hard to push and we want to have as much
 facts as possible to make better decisions.
 The fact is that currently there is no standard way of getting the
 short name for a subsystem. My proposal fixes it allowing to look on
 the MAINTAINERS file to see what short name to use.


 There is no standard way of getting short name, and there isn't standard
 way of naming a patch either.

 Just looking through media list I can spot lots of different subject schemes:
   [media] foo: fix some bug
   media: foo: fix some bug
   foo: fix some bug
   Some random text and fix some bug

According to:

http://yarchive.net/comp/linux/commit_messages.html

the subsystem short name is also important for whom is not working
directly on that subsystem but may receive the E-mail with the
patch...



 Regards,
 Ezequiel.



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Re: [PATCH RFC] MAINTAINERS: Add section for subsystem shortname

2012-10-02 Thread Joe Perches
On Tue, 2012-10-02 at 15:13 +0200, Peter Senna Tschudin wrote:
 On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 3:08 PM, Ezequiel Garcia elezegar...@gmail.com wrote:
  Just looking through media list I can spot lots of different subject 
  schemes:
[media] foo: fix some bug
media: foo: fix some bug
foo: fix some bug
Some random text and fix some bug
 
 According to:
 
 http://yarchive.net/comp/linux/commit_messages.html
 
 the subsystem short name is also important for whom is not working
 directly on that subsystem but may receive the E-mail with the
 patch...

Thread from awhile ago:
https://lkml.org/lkml/2010/11/16/245


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