Re: [PATCH 2/3] mn88472: make sure the private data struct is nulled after free

2015-01-19 Thread Hans Verkuil
On 12/06/2014 09:26 PM, Benjamin Larsson wrote:
 On 12/06/2014 07:37 PM, Antti Palosaari wrote:

 I do think it is good practice to set pointers to null generally as that
 would have saved me several days of work of whentracking down this bug.
 The current dvb framework contain several other cases where pointers are
 feed'd but not nulled.

 There is kzfree() for that, but still I am very unsure should we start 
 zeroing memory upon release driver has allocated, or just relase it 
 using kfree.

 regards
 Antti 
 
 Well I guess I am biased as I have spent lots of time finding a bug that 
 probably wouldn't exist if the policy was that drivers always should set 
 their memory to zero before it is free'd.

Just because you zero memory before it is freed doesn't mean it stays zeroed.
As soon as it is freed some other process might take that memory and fill it
up again. So zeroing is pointless and in fact will only *hide* bugs.

The only reason I know of for zeroing memory before freeing is if that memory
contains sensitive information and you want to make sure it is gone from memory.

You can turn on the kmemcheck kernel option when compiling the kernel to test
for accesses to uninitialized memory if you suspect you have a bug in that
area.

Anyway:

Nacked-by: Hans Verkuil hans.verk...@cisco.com

Regards,

Hans

 Maybe we should have a compile 
 time override so that all free calls zeroes the memory before the actual 
 free? Maybe there already is this kind of feature?
 
 MvH
 Benjamin Larsson
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Re: [PATCH 2/3] mn88472: make sure the private data struct is nulled after free

2015-01-19 Thread Benjamin Larsson

On 01/19/2015 02:15 PM, Hans Verkuil wrote:

On 12/06/2014 09:26 PM, Benjamin Larsson wrote:


Well I guess I am biased as I have spent lots of time finding a bug that
probably wouldn't exist if the policy was that drivers always should set
their memory to zero before it is free'd.


Just because you zero memory before it is freed doesn't mean it stays zeroed.
As soon as it is freed some other process might take that memory and fill it
up again. So zeroing is pointless and in fact will only *hide* bugs.



Well in this specific case NOT zeroing the memory it actually hid a use 
after free bug. So stating that it is pointless and that it will only 
hide bugs is not correct at least for this case.


MvH
Benjamin Larsson
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Re: [PATCH 2/3] mn88472: make sure the private data struct is nulled after free

2014-12-06 Thread Antti Palosaari

But that is not needed anymore ?

regards
Antti

On 12/06/2014 02:25 AM, Benjamin Larsson wrote:

Using this driver with the attach dvb model might trigger a use
after free when unloading the driver. With this change the driver
will always fail on unload instead of randomly crash depending
on if the memory has been reused or not.

Signed-off-by: Benjamin Larsson benja...@southpole.se
---
  drivers/staging/media/mn88472/mn88472.c | 1 +
  1 file changed, 1 insertion(+)

diff --git a/drivers/staging/media/mn88472/mn88472.c 
b/drivers/staging/media/mn88472/mn88472.c
index 36ef39b..a9d5f0a 100644
--- a/drivers/staging/media/mn88472/mn88472.c
+++ b/drivers/staging/media/mn88472/mn88472.c
@@ -489,6 +489,7 @@ static int mn88472_remove(struct i2c_client *client)

regmap_exit(dev-regmap[0]);

+   memset(dev, 0, sizeof(*dev));
kfree(dev);

return 0;



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Re: [PATCH 2/3] mn88472: make sure the private data struct is nulled after free

2014-12-06 Thread Benjamin Larsson

On 12/06/2014 05:29 PM, Antti Palosaari wrote:

But that is not needed anymore ?

regards
Antti


Chances are that more devices with the mn8847x chips appear. Someone 
somewhere might try to use this demod with the old dvb attach model 
during development. Adding this memset will make the unload issue appear 
all the time instead of randomly. But this patch doesn't really matter 
so feel free to NACK it. I just wanted to post it for completeness.


I do think it is good practice to set pointers to null generally as that 
would have saved me several days of work of whentracking down this bug. 
The current dvb framework contain several other cases where pointers are 
feed'd but not nulled.


MvH
Benjamin Larsson
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Re: [PATCH 2/3] mn88472: make sure the private data struct is nulled after free

2014-12-06 Thread Antti Palosaari

On 12/06/2014 08:08 PM, Benjamin Larsson wrote:

On 12/06/2014 05:29 PM, Antti Palosaari wrote:

But that is not needed anymore ?

regards
Antti


Chances are that more devices with the mn8847x chips appear. Someone
somewhere might try to use this demod with the old dvb attach model
during development. Adding this memset will make the unload issue appear
all the time instead of randomly. But this patch doesn't really matter
so feel free to NACK it. I just wanted to post it for completeness.

I do think it is good practice to set pointers to null generally as that
would have saved me several days of work of whentracking down this bug.
The current dvb framework contain several other cases where pointers are
feed'd but not nulled.


There is kzfree() for that, but still I am very unsure should we start 
zeroing memory upon release driver has allocated, or just relase it 
using kfree.


regards
Antti

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Re: [PATCH 2/3] mn88472: make sure the private data struct is nulled after free

2014-12-06 Thread Benjamin Larsson

On 12/06/2014 07:37 PM, Antti Palosaari wrote:


I do think it is good practice to set pointers to null generally as that
would have saved me several days of work of whentracking down this bug.
The current dvb framework contain several other cases where pointers are
feed'd but not nulled.


There is kzfree() for that, but still I am very unsure should we start 
zeroing memory upon release driver has allocated, or just relase it 
using kfree.


regards
Antti 


Well I guess I am biased as I have spent lots of time finding a bug that 
probably wouldn't exist if the policy was that drivers always should set 
their memory to zero before it is free'd. Maybe we should have a compile 
time override so that all free calls zeroes the memory before the actual 
free? Maybe there already is this kind of feature?


MvH
Benjamin Larsson
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[PATCH 2/3] mn88472: make sure the private data struct is nulled after free

2014-12-05 Thread Benjamin Larsson
Using this driver with the attach dvb model might trigger a use
after free when unloading the driver. With this change the driver
will always fail on unload instead of randomly crash depending
on if the memory has been reused or not.

Signed-off-by: Benjamin Larsson benja...@southpole.se
---
 drivers/staging/media/mn88472/mn88472.c | 1 +
 1 file changed, 1 insertion(+)

diff --git a/drivers/staging/media/mn88472/mn88472.c 
b/drivers/staging/media/mn88472/mn88472.c
index 36ef39b..a9d5f0a 100644
--- a/drivers/staging/media/mn88472/mn88472.c
+++ b/drivers/staging/media/mn88472/mn88472.c
@@ -489,6 +489,7 @@ static int mn88472_remove(struct i2c_client *client)
 
regmap_exit(dev-regmap[0]);
 
+   memset(dev, 0, sizeof(*dev));
kfree(dev);
 
return 0;
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1.9.1

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