Re: Problems with ngene based DVB cards (Digital Devices Cine S2 Dual DVB-S2 , Mystique SaTiX S2 Dual)

2010-03-24 Thread Marco Lohse
Marco Lohse wrote:
 Marco Lohse wrote:
 Devin Heitmueller wrote:
 [..]
 Hi Marco,

 Ok, great.  Like I said, I will see if I can reproduce it here, as
 that will help narrow down whether it's really an issue with the ngene
 bridge, or whether it's got something to do with that particular
 bridge/demod/tuner combination.

 We made some more tests and found some additional issues that we would
 like to report.

 
 Sorry, I forgot the attachment (modified szap-s2)
 
 Have fun, Marco

 *Problem A revisited * *

 It was suggested that due to a bug the dvr should never be closed (as a
 work-around)

 How does this affect channel tuning times?

 Test (using the latest version of the modified szap-s2)

 0) su -c rmmod ngene  modprobe ngene one_adapter=0

 1) Run szap-s2 using a channels.conf with Das Erste and ZDF on
 different transponders

 szap-s2 -S 1 -H -c channels_DVB-S2_transponder_switch.conf -a 0 -n 1 -i
 reading channels from file 'channels_DVB-S2_transponder_switch.conf'

 Das Erste
 zapping to 1 'Das Erste':
 delivery DVB-S2, modulation QPSK
 sat 0, frequency 11836 MHz H, symbolrate 2750, coderate auto,
 rolloff 0.35
 vpid 0x0065, apid 0x0066, sid 0x0068
 using '/dev/dvb/adapter0/frontend0' and '/dev/dvb/adapter0/demux0'
 Opened frontend
 Opened video demux
 Opened audio demux
 status 1f | signal  69% | snr  67% | ber 1 | unc -2 | FE_HAS_LOCK
 Delay zap_to : 0.586872

 ZDF
 zapping to 2 'ZDF':
 delivery DVB-S2, modulation QPSK
 sat 0, frequency 11953 MHz H, symbolrate 2750, coderate auto,
 rolloff 0.35
 vpid 0x006e, apid 0x0078, sid 0x0082
 status 1f | signal  67% | snr  63% | ber 1 | unc -2 | FE_HAS_LOCK
 Delay zap_to : 0.580473

 Das Erste
 zapping to 1 'Das Erste':
 delivery DVB-S2, modulation QPSK
 sat 0, frequency 11836 MHz H, symbolrate 2750, coderate auto,
 rolloff 0.35
 vpid 0x0065, apid 0x0066, sid 0x0068
 status 1f | signal  69% | snr  67% | ber 1 | unc -2 | FE_HAS_LOCK
 Delay zap_to : 0.553754

 = Good, you will see low tuning times.

 2) in parallel to 1) - and without terminating 1) - run a second
 instance of szap-s2 that reads from the device

 szap-s2 -S 1 -H -c channels_DVB-S2_transponder_switch.conf -a 1 -n 1 -r
 reading channels from file 'channels_DVB-S2_transponder_switch.conf'
 zapping to 1 'Das Erste':
 delivery DVB-S2, modulation QPSK
 sat 0, frequency 11836 MHz H, symbolrate 2750, coderate auto,
 rolloff 0.35
 vpid 0x0065, apid 0x0066, sid 0x0068
 using '/dev/dvb/adapter1/frontend0' and '/dev/dvb/adapter1/demux0'
 Opened frontend
 Opened video demux
 Opened audio demux
 ..

 3) while 2) is running, go back to 1) and tune to different transponders
 again:

 ZDF
 zapping to 2 'ZDF':
 delivery DVB-S2, modulation QPSK
 sat 0, frequency 11953 MHz H, symbolrate 2750, coderate auto,
 rolloff 0.35
 vpid 0x006e, apid 0x0078, sid 0x0082
 status 1f | signal  67% | snr  63% | ber 1 | unc -2 | FE_HAS_LOCK
 Delay zap_to : 1.774598

 Das Erste
 zapping to 1 'Das Erste':
 delivery DVB-S2, modulation QPSK
 sat 0, frequency 11836 MHz H, symbolrate 2750, coderate auto,
 rolloff 0.35
 vpid 0x0065, apid 0x0066, sid 0x0068
 status 1f | signal  69% | snr  67% | ber 1 | unc -2 | FE_HAS_LOCK
 Delay zap_to : 1.772805

 = Not good, whenver you use both tuners you will see tuning times to
 increase from approx. 0.5 secs to 1.7 secs.


Was anyone able to reproduce the problem with the increased tuning times?

Thank you for your comments.

Have fun, Marco


 *Problem B revisited * *

 We also found that when reading data from the dvr device immediately
 after tuning was completed (e.g. the lock was successful), then approx.
 once in 50 iterations, we still get old data from the device. With
 old I mean from the transponder previously tuned to.

 This results, for example, in the wrong old PAT received first.

 Work-around: Simple and annoying. Add a sleep(1) before starting to read
 from device.

 *Remark*

 Both problems can _not_ be reproduced with any other board we tested
 (Tevii, KNC, ..)


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Re: Problems with ngene based DVB cards (Digital Devices Cine S2 Dual DVB-S2 , Mystique SaTiX S2 Dual)

2010-03-23 Thread Marco Lohse
Marco Lohse wrote:
 Devin Heitmueller wrote:
 [..]
 Hi Marco,

 Ok, great.  Like I said, I will see if I can reproduce it here, as
 that will help narrow down whether it's really an issue with the ngene
 bridge, or whether it's got something to do with that particular
 bridge/demod/tuner combination.

 
 We made some more tests and found some additional issues that we would
 like to report.
 

Sorry, I forgot the attachment (modified szap-s2)

 Have fun, Marco
 
 *Problem A revisited * *
 
 It was suggested that due to a bug the dvr should never be closed (as a
 work-around)
 
 How does this affect channel tuning times?
 
 Test (using the latest version of the modified szap-s2)
 
 0) su -c rmmod ngene  modprobe ngene one_adapter=0
 
 1) Run szap-s2 using a channels.conf with Das Erste and ZDF on
 different transponders
 
 szap-s2 -S 1 -H -c channels_DVB-S2_transponder_switch.conf -a 0 -n 1 -i
 reading channels from file 'channels_DVB-S2_transponder_switch.conf'
 
 Das Erste
 zapping to 1 'Das Erste':
 delivery DVB-S2, modulation QPSK
 sat 0, frequency 11836 MHz H, symbolrate 2750, coderate auto,
 rolloff 0.35
 vpid 0x0065, apid 0x0066, sid 0x0068
 using '/dev/dvb/adapter0/frontend0' and '/dev/dvb/adapter0/demux0'
 Opened frontend
 Opened video demux
 Opened audio demux
 status 1f | signal  69% | snr  67% | ber 1 | unc -2 | FE_HAS_LOCK
 Delay zap_to : 0.586872
 
 ZDF
 zapping to 2 'ZDF':
 delivery DVB-S2, modulation QPSK
 sat 0, frequency 11953 MHz H, symbolrate 2750, coderate auto,
 rolloff 0.35
 vpid 0x006e, apid 0x0078, sid 0x0082
 status 1f | signal  67% | snr  63% | ber 1 | unc -2 | FE_HAS_LOCK
 Delay zap_to : 0.580473
 
 Das Erste
 zapping to 1 'Das Erste':
 delivery DVB-S2, modulation QPSK
 sat 0, frequency 11836 MHz H, symbolrate 2750, coderate auto,
 rolloff 0.35
 vpid 0x0065, apid 0x0066, sid 0x0068
 status 1f | signal  69% | snr  67% | ber 1 | unc -2 | FE_HAS_LOCK
 Delay zap_to : 0.553754
 
 = Good, you will see low tuning times.
 
 2) in parallel to 1) - and without terminating 1) - run a second
 instance of szap-s2 that reads from the device
 
 szap-s2 -S 1 -H -c channels_DVB-S2_transponder_switch.conf -a 1 -n 1 -r
 reading channels from file 'channels_DVB-S2_transponder_switch.conf'
 zapping to 1 'Das Erste':
 delivery DVB-S2, modulation QPSK
 sat 0, frequency 11836 MHz H, symbolrate 2750, coderate auto,
 rolloff 0.35
 vpid 0x0065, apid 0x0066, sid 0x0068
 using '/dev/dvb/adapter1/frontend0' and '/dev/dvb/adapter1/demux0'
 Opened frontend
 Opened video demux
 Opened audio demux
 ..
 
 3) while 2) is running, go back to 1) and tune to different transponders
 again:
 
 ZDF
 zapping to 2 'ZDF':
 delivery DVB-S2, modulation QPSK
 sat 0, frequency 11953 MHz H, symbolrate 2750, coderate auto,
 rolloff 0.35
 vpid 0x006e, apid 0x0078, sid 0x0082
 status 1f | signal  67% | snr  63% | ber 1 | unc -2 | FE_HAS_LOCK
 Delay zap_to : 1.774598
 
 Das Erste
 zapping to 1 'Das Erste':
 delivery DVB-S2, modulation QPSK
 sat 0, frequency 11836 MHz H, symbolrate 2750, coderate auto,
 rolloff 0.35
 vpid 0x0065, apid 0x0066, sid 0x0068
 status 1f | signal  69% | snr  67% | ber 1 | unc -2 | FE_HAS_LOCK
 Delay zap_to : 1.772805
 
 = Not good, whenver you use both tuners you will see tuning times to
 increase from approx. 0.5 secs to 1.7 secs.
 
 
 *Problem B revisited * *
 
 We also found that when reading data from the dvr device immediately
 after tuning was completed (e.g. the lock was successful), then approx.
 once in 50 iterations, we still get old data from the device. With
 old I mean from the transponder previously tuned to.
 
 This results, for example, in the wrong old PAT received first.
 
 Work-around: Simple and annoying. Add a sleep(1) before starting to read
 from device.
 
 *Remark*
 
 Both problems can _not_ be reproduced with any other board we tested
 (Tevii, KNC, ..)
 
 
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Questions to ngene/dvb_frontend driver [Original email was Problems with ngene based DVB cards (Digital Devices Cine S2 Dual DVB-S2 , Mystique SaTiX S2 Dual)]

2010-03-22 Thread Michael Repplinger
Hi,
I read the problems described in email thread Problems with ngene based
DVB cards (Digital Devices Cine S2 Dual DVB-S2 , Mystique SaTiX S2
Dual). Unfortunately, I just subscribed to this list so I cannot
respond to the original mail directly but it can be found at the end of
this mail.

For tracking down the described problems with high delays, I tried to
understand the dvb_frontend and ngene driver and added some output
messages. The added output messages are attached as a ptach to this
email. Since this was the first time I read the source code of the
module I was not able to find a real problem or bug.

However, I found 3 issues that I would like to report. Especially issue
1) could be a problem. Here the irq handler of ngene module is still
triggered for 60secs if the last application using the DVB devices
terminates.
In Issue 2) I describe the methods that need more time when the
described problem occur. Unfortunately, I could only determine that
these methods need more time but was not able to find a reason.
Issue 3) could be related to issue 1). Here I saw that the ngene module
is not informed if the DVB frontend device is closed.

Again, since I read the source code of a driver for the first time I
don't know if the described issues are OK or not. It would be great if
some of you could check the described issues. Maybe this information
helps to find/solve the problem.

Thanks in advance
  Michael Repplinger

Testsystem:
-Kernel: 2.6.25.20-0.5-pae (Suse 11.0 distribution)
-Driver: following endriss/ngene DVB driver + attached patch
  *Repository URL : http://linuxtv.org/hg/~endriss/ngene
  *Revision   : 14413:510e37da759e

*Issue 1) IRQ handler is triggered  for 60 seconds after last
application stops using the dvb device:*

Reproduce Test:
a) load dvb modules as follows:
  rmmod ngene
  rmmod dvb_core

  modprobe dvb_core dvbdev_debug=1 frontend_debug=1 debug=1 cam_debug=1
dvb_demux_tscheck=1 dvb_net_debug=1 
  modprobe ngene debug=1 one_adapter=0

b) tail -f /var/log/messages
c) In parallel to b) start
   ./szap-s2 -H -c channels_DVB-S2_transponder_switch.conf -a 0 -n 1 -x

*Observation 1: *
In b) one can see the following output messages:
Mar 20 14:18:01 dvb_host kernel: ngene: irq_handler IRQ 16
Mar 20 14:18:01 dvb_host kernel: ngene : irq_handler return IRQ_HANDLED
Mar 20 14:18:01 dvb_host kernel: ngene: demux_tasklet
Mar 20 14:18:01 dvb_host kernel: ngene: tsin_exchange

= The following mehtods of ngene-core.c are called
- static irqreturn_t irq_handler(int irq, void *dev_id) ( produces the
first two lines of the above output messages)
- static void demux_tasklet(unsigned long data) ( produces the third
lines of the above output messages)
- static void *tsin_exchange(void *priv, void *buf, u32 len, u32 clock,
u32 flags) (procudes the last output message)

= IRQ handler of ngene-core module is periodically triggered as soon as the
first application using DVB device has been used

*Observation 2: *
Exactly 60 seconds after executing c), the IRQ handler is no longer
triggered
and no more output messages appear in b).
Here the last output messages are:

Mar 20 14:19:01 dvb_host kernel: ngene : irq_handler return IRQ_HANDLED
Mar 20 14:19:01 dvb_host kernel: ngene: demux_tasklet
Mar 20 14:19:01 dvb_host kernel: ngene: tsin_exchange
Mar 20 14:19:01 dvb_host kernel: ngene: ngene_i2c_master_xfer
Mar 20 14:19:01 dvb_host kernel: ngene:  ngene_i2x_set_bus
Mar 20 14:19:01 dvb_host kernel: ngene: ngene_i2c_set_bus
Mar 20 14:19:01 dvb_host kernel: ngene:  ngene_i2x_set_bus
Mar 20 14:19:01 dvb_host kernel: ngene: num = 1 ngene_command_i2c_write
Mar 20 14:19:01 dvb_host kernel: ngene: ngene_command_i2c_write
Mar 20 14:19:01 dvb_host kernel: ngene: ngene_command
Mar 20 14:19:01 dvb_host kernel: ngene: ngene_command_mutex
Mar 20 14:19:01 dvb_host kernel: ngene: irq_handler IRQ 16
Mar 20 14:19:01 dvb_host kernel: ngene : irq_handler return IRQ_HANDLED
Mar 20 14:19:01 dvb_host kernel: ngene: irq_handler IRQ 16
Mar 20 14:19:01 dvb_host kernel: ngene : irq_handler return IRQ_HANDLED
Mar 20 14:19:01 dvb_host kernel: ngene: ngene_i2c_master_xfer  succeeded

= In this case, the mehtod ngene_i2c_master_xfer is invoked and
successfully processed (additional invoked methods can also be seen from
the output).

*Conclusion: *
Since I dont understand whats going on here, I don't know if this is
correct or could cause problems. However, I would expect that the IRQ
handler is not triggered, if no application accesses the DVB device.
Moreover, after 60 seconds the IRQ trigger is no longer triggered. This
looks like the kernel (or any other module) stops the ngene-module.



*Issue 2) High delay ~(1.7-18 seconds) when switching the channel *
By enabling and adding additional output messages in used dvb modules, I was
able to find the mehtod that causes a higher delay.


Reproduce Test:
a) load dvb modules as follows:
  rmmod ngene
  rmmod dvb_core

  modprobe dvb_core dvbdev_debug=1 frontend_debug=1 debug=1 cam_debug=1

Re: Questions to ngene/dvb_frontend driver [Original email was Problems with ngene based DVB cards (Digital Devices Cine S2 Dual DVB-S2 , Mystique SaTiX S2 Dual)]

2010-03-22 Thread Michael Repplinger
Hi list,

in addition to my previous tests, I found that the problems with long
tuning delays only occurs when switching to an SD channel.  If I switch
to an HD channel, e.g., using adapter 0, I always get fast tuning times
(see my tests below).

Since the large delays only occur when switching to an SD channel, I
have the following questions.

1) Is there different code for tuning to an HD channel or tuning to an
SD-channel?

2) If yes, which which methods in which modules are repsonsible for
tuning to an SD/HD channel?

3) Are there any methods wihtin the dvb_frontend oder ngene Modul (or
anywhere in the DVB driver) that have to differ between  SD- and HD
channels?

It would be realy great, if somone can answer these questions or give me
some hints to find the problem.

Best regards
  Michael


Tests (channels_DVB-S2_transponder_switch_HD.conf and
channels_DVB-S2_transponder_switch.conf are attached to this email):
1) Tune to a TV channel and forward data to dvr device
./szap-s2 -S 1 -H -c channels_DVB-S2_transponder_switch.conf -a 1 -n 1 -r

2) In paralle to1) use adapter 0 to tune to an HD-Kanal
./szap-s2 -H -c channels_DVB-S2_transponder_switch_HD.conf -a 0 -n 2 -x
-S 1 | grep Delay
Delay : 0.569672

3) In paralle to1) use adapter 0 to tune to an HD-Kanal
./szap-s2 -H -c channels_DVB-S2_transponder_switch_HD.conf -a 0 -n 1 -x
-S 1 | grep Delay
Delay : 0.581712

4) In paralle to1) use adapter 0 to tune to an SD-Kanal
./szap-s2 -H -c channels_DVB-S2_transponder_switch.conf -a 0 -n 1 -x |
grep Delay
Delay : 1.760880

Michael Repplinger wrote:
 Hi,
 I read the problems described in email thread Problems with ngene based
 DVB cards (Digital Devices Cine S2 Dual DVB-S2 , Mystique SaTiX S2
 Dual). Unfortunately, I just subscribed to this list so I cannot
 respond to the original mail directly but it can be found at the end of
 this mail.

 For tracking down the described problems with high delays, I tried to
 understand the dvb_frontend and ngene driver and added some output
 messages. The added output messages are attached as a ptach to this
 email. Since this was the first time I read the source code of the
 module I was not able to find a real problem or bug.

 However, I found 3 issues that I would like to report. Especially issue
 1) could be a problem. Here the irq handler of ngene module is still
 triggered for 60secs if the last application using the DVB devices
 terminates.
 In Issue 2) I describe the methods that need more time when the
 described problem occur. Unfortunately, I could only determine that
 these methods need more time but was not able to find a reason.
 Issue 3) could be related to issue 1). Here I saw that the ngene module
 is not informed if the DVB frontend device is closed.

 Again, since I read the source code of a driver for the first time I
 don't know if the described issues are OK or not. It would be great if
 some of you could check the described issues. Maybe this information
 helps to find/solve the problem.

 Thanks in advance
   Michael Repplinger

 Testsystem:
 -Kernel: 2.6.25.20-0.5-pae (Suse 11.0 distribution)
 -Driver: following endriss/ngene DVB driver + attached patch
   *Repository URL : http://linuxtv.org/hg/~endriss/ngene
   *Revision   : 14413:510e37da759e

 *Issue 1) IRQ handler is triggered  for 60 seconds after last
 application stops using the dvb device:*

 Reproduce Test:
 a) load dvb modules as follows:
   rmmod ngene
   rmmod dvb_core

   modprobe dvb_core dvbdev_debug=1 frontend_debug=1 debug=1 cam_debug=1
 dvb_demux_tscheck=1 dvb_net_debug=1 
   modprobe ngene debug=1 one_adapter=0

 b) tail -f /var/log/messages
 c) In parallel to b) start
./szap-s2 -H -c channels_DVB-S2_transponder_switch.conf -a 0 -n 1 -x

 *Observation 1: *
 In b) one can see the following output messages:
 Mar 20 14:18:01 dvb_host kernel: ngene: irq_handler IRQ 16
 Mar 20 14:18:01 dvb_host kernel: ngene : irq_handler return IRQ_HANDLED
 Mar 20 14:18:01 dvb_host kernel: ngene: demux_tasklet
 Mar 20 14:18:01 dvb_host kernel: ngene: tsin_exchange

 = The following mehtods of ngene-core.c are called
 - static irqreturn_t irq_handler(int irq, void *dev_id) ( produces the
 first two lines of the above output messages)
 - static void demux_tasklet(unsigned long data) ( produces the third
 lines of the above output messages)
 - static void *tsin_exchange(void *priv, void *buf, u32 len, u32 clock,
 u32 flags) (procudes the last output message)

 = IRQ handler of ngene-core module is periodically triggered as soon as the
 first application using DVB device has been used

 *Observation 2: *
 Exactly 60 seconds after executing c), the IRQ handler is no longer
 triggered
 and no more output messages appear in b).
 Here the last output messages are:

 Mar 20 14:19:01 dvb_host kernel: ngene : irq_handler return IRQ_HANDLED
 Mar 20 14:19:01 dvb_host kernel: ngene: demux_tasklet
 Mar 20 14:19:01 dvb_host kernel: ngene: tsin_exchange
 Mar 20 14:19:01 dvb_host kernel: ngene

Re: Problems with ngene based DVB cards (Digital Devices Cine S2 Dual DVB-S2 , Mystique SaTiX S2 Dual)

2010-03-18 Thread Andreas Besse
Hello,

We are now able to reproduce the problem faster and easier (using the
patched version of szap-s2 and the scripts included in the tar.gz :
http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.drivers.video-input-infrastructure/17334
and
http://cache.gmane.org//gmane/linux/drivers/video-input-infrastructure/17334-001.bin
)

0) su -c rmmod ngene  modprobe ngene one_adapter=0

1) ./run_szap-s2_adapter0.sh | grep Delay

2) in parallel to 1)

szap-s2 -S 1 -H -c channels_DVB-S2_transponder_switch.conf -a 1 -n 1 -r -Q 7

(better: by adding -Q the program is terminated, and all devices are
closed after approx. 8 to 9 secs)

= while 2) is running 1) will show increased tuning times

Delay : 0.541970
Delay : 0.606943
Delay : 1.410069 [ HERE 2) was started ]
Delay : 1.369592
Delay : 1.261879
Delay : 1.766680

3) after 2) has terminated simply let 1) continue for 30-40 iterations. you
will see

..
Delay : 1.845793
Delay : 1.772285
Delay : 2.045703
Delay : 1.817985
Delay : 0.982030
Delay : 1.769856
Delay : 1.769782
Delay : 0.537857
Delay : 21.628382

4) At this point, immediately press Ctrl-C and restart 1) - you will see

Delay : 0.577599
Delay : 0.549717
Delay : 0.593816
Delay : 0.593758
Delay : 0.549584
Delay : 0.546012

== BAD: Problem seems to happen due to one adapter being opened and closed
again

== GOOD: we are now able to easily and quickly reproduce both problems
without
Ctrl-C

thanks for your help,
Andreas Besse

Andreas Besse wrote:
 Hello,

 we discovered several problems with the ngene based dual DVB cards. The
 problems occur with the Digital Devices Cine S2 Dual DVB-S2 device
 (Linux4Media cineS2 DVB-S2 Twin Tuner), the clones like Mystique SaTiX
 S2 Dual should also be affected.

 We are using the ngene drivers from the linuxtv repository
 http://linuxtv.org/hg/v4l-dvb and the firmware version 15 provided by
 Digital Devices.

 *Setup* ***

 OpenSuse Linux 11.0
 Linux anna 2.6.25.20-0.5-pae #1 SMP 2009-08-14 01:48:11 +0200 i686 i686
 i386 GNU/Linux
 DVB drivers: http://linuxtv.org/hg/v4l-dvb (ngene)
 2e0444bf93a4 (changeset 14233:2e0444bf93a4, date: Mon Feb 22 10:58:43
 2010 -0300)

 module loaded with
   modprobe ngene one_adapter=0

 *Usage* ***

 We slightly modified the latest version of szap-s2 (available from
 http://mercurial.intuxication.org/hg/szap-s2/ ); see attached .tar.gz

 tar xvfz modified_szap_s2.tar.gz

 make

 Most importantly, the modified version prints out the total delay in
 seconds of main() to allow for easier debugging.

 *Problem A* ***

 Two running instance of szap-s2 are used:

 a) one for changing channels between Das Erste (Astra 19.2E) and
 ZDF (Astra 19.2E)

 b) the other one for recording from Das Erste (or any other channel)

 Result:

 When only a) is running, channel tuning times between the two
 different transponders of Das Erste and ZDF are around 0.5
 secs. This is really good.

 However, when b) is started in parallel, these times increase to 1.5
 to 1.8 seconds. This is not good.

 How to reproduce?

 1) in one shell, run

  ./run_szap-s2_adapter0.sh | grep Delay

 You will see

 Delay : 0.560508
 Delay : 0.545771
 Delay : 0.609781
 Delay : 0.593796
 Delay : 0.649772
 Delay : 0.614023
 ..

 2) in parallel in another shell, run

 ./szap-s2 -S 1 -H -c channels_DVB-S2_transponder_switch.conf -a 1 -n 1 -r

 Immediately, you will see in 1)

 Delay : 1.525178
 Delay : 1.781971
 ..

 *Problem B* ***

 After reproducing Problem A, we terminate process 2) by hitting
 Ctrl-C.

 Even then, channel tuning time stay high in process 1), you will still see

 Delay : 1.773303
 Delay : 1.781734
 Delay : 1.749948
 ..

 This is not good.

 *Problem C* ***

 What is even worse:

 Very often, you will soon run into trouble: After a very iterations,
 you will see:

 Delay : 21.616521
 Delay : 21.773475
 Delay : 21.765678

 This means that tuning was not possible anymore at all.  In this
 situation, it always helps to re-load the module by runing:

 su -c rmmod ngene  modprobe ngene one_adapter=0

 *Problem D* ***

 When terminating process 1) and immediately restarting it, channel
 tuning times - again - stay high. This is not good.

 Often you will also see Problem C then.

 *Problem E* ***

 Go back to reproducing Problem A (process 1 and 2 are running), and
 the continuously start and terminate process 2) by hitting Ctrl-C
 again and again. Sooner or later, you will see Problem C occur then.

 *Remark* ***

 It _seems_ that, after terminating all szap-s2 processes, and waiting 1
 to 2 minutes, and then restarting szap-s2 again, the failures/problems
 seem to be gone _without_ reloading the module.

 thanks for your help,
 Andreas Besse


   

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Re: Problems with ngene based DVB cards (Digital Devices Cine S2 Dual DVB-S2 , Mystique SaTiX S2 Dual)

2010-03-18 Thread Devin Heitmueller
On Thu, Mar 18, 2010 at 6:00 AM, Andreas Besse be...@motama.com wrote:
 Hello,

 We are now able to reproduce the problem faster and easier (using the
 patched version of szap-s2 and the scripts included in the tar.gz :
 http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.drivers.video-input-infrastructure/17334
 and
 http://cache.gmane.org//gmane/linux/drivers/video-input-infrastructure/17334-001.bin
 )

This is pretty interesting.  I'm doing some ngene work over the next
few weeks, so I will see if I can reproduce the behavior you are
seeing here.

I noticed  that you are manually setting the one_adapter=0 modprobe
setting.  Does this have any bearing on the test results?

Dvein



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Re: Problems with ngene based DVB cards (Digital Devices Cine S2 Dual DVB-S2 , Mystique SaTiX S2 Dual)

2010-03-18 Thread Devin Heitmueller
On Thu, Mar 18, 2010 at 11:07 AM, Marco Lohse mlo...@motama.com wrote:
 Devin Heitmueller wrote:
 On Thu, Mar 18, 2010 at 6:00 AM, Andreas Besse be...@motama.com wrote:
 Hello,

 We are now able to reproduce the problem faster and easier (using the
 patched version of szap-s2 and the scripts included in the tar.gz :
 http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.drivers.video-input-infrastructure/17334
 and
 http://cache.gmane.org//gmane/linux/drivers/video-input-infrastructure/17334-001.bin
 )

 This is pretty interesting.  I'm doing some ngene work over the next
 few weeks, so I will see if I can reproduce the behavior you are
 seeing here.

 I noticed  that you are manually setting the one_adapter=0 modprobe
 setting.  Does this have any bearing on the test results?


 I will try to answer this one:

 No, leaving out this parameter does not change the test results; you
 will only need to use different and additional parameters for szap-s2
 for specifying the correct adapter and sub-devices.

 By now, we also found out that the problems can be reproduced much easier:

 0)

 szap-s2 -H -c channels_DVB-S2_transponder_switch.conf -a 0 -n 1 -x |
 grep Delay

 Delay : 0.573021

 1)

 szap-s2 -H -c channels_DVB-S2_transponder_switch.conf -a 1 -n 1 -x |
 grep Delay
 Delay : 0.564667

 2)

 szap-s2 -H -c channels_DVB-S2_transponder_switch.conf -a 0 -n 1 -x |
 grep Delay
 Delay : 1.741931

 Instead of 2) you can also run the included script

 2')

 ./run_szap-s2_adapter0.sh

 which will result in the device timeout after 30-40 iterations

 To summarize

 = When opening and closing adapter0, then opening and closing devices
 of adapter1, this will immediately result in problems.

 And there a lot more variations of this bug, for example: actually read
 data from adapter0, tune adapter1 using szap-s2, which will result in
 adapter0 to be 'blocked' and not produce any more data after around 60 secs.

 We are currently trying to dig into the source code of the driver to
 solve the problems and would appreciate any help.

Hi Marco,

Ok, great.  Like I said, I will see if I can reproduce it here, as
that will help narrow down whether it's really an issue with the ngene
bridge, or whether it's got something to do with that particular
bridge/demod/tuner combination.

Thanks,

Devin

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