Re: [PATCH 3/5] usb: phy: twl4030-usb: Move code from twl4030_phy_power to the runtime PM calls

2014-09-08 Thread Kishon Vijay Abraham I
Hi Tony,

On Thursday 04 September 2014 10:37 PM, Tony Lindgren wrote:
 * Kishon Vijay Abraham I kis...@ti.com [140904 06:51]:
 Hi Tony,

 On Thursday 28 August 2014 04:58 AM, Tony Lindgren wrote:
 We don't need twl4030_phy_power() any longer now that we have
 the runtime PM calls. Let's get rid of it as it's confusing.
 No functional changes, just move the code and use res instead
 of ret as we are not returning that value.

 Now that you are doing pm_runtime_get_sync in twl4030_phy_init, won't it 
 power
 on the phy even before initializing it (since runtime_resume will be invoked
 even before doing phy_init)?
 
 Yes. The logic being that it should not matter as we are not
 configuring the phy until in twl4030_phy_power_on(). Maybe we
 should add code to make sure the phy is deconfigured initially
 though :)
 
 In twl4030_phy_init() we just want to check the ID pin state to get
 things right initially. In the twl4030-usb case the I2C chip is
 always on, but let's try to get the runtime PM set up like any
 standard Linux driver would do it to avoid confusion.
 
 Even if pm_runtime_get_sync in not done in twl4030_phy_init, phy-core itself
 does pm_runtime_get_sync in phy_init().
 
 Hmm OK. Looking at that, looks like we don't neeed any of these
 custom exports though:
 
 $ git grep phy_pm_runtime | grep EXPORT_SYMBOL
 drivers/phy/phy-core.c:EXPORT_SYMBOL_GPL(phy_pm_runtime_get);
 drivers/phy/phy-core.c:EXPORT_SYMBOL_GPL(phy_pm_runtime_get_sync);
 drivers/phy/phy-core.c:EXPORT_SYMBOL_GPL(phy_pm_runtime_put);
 drivers/phy/phy-core.c:EXPORT_SYMBOL_GPL(phy_pm_runtime_put_sync);
 drivers/phy/phy-core.c:EXPORT_SYMBOL_GPL(phy_pm_runtime_allow);
 drivers/phy/phy-core.c:EXPORT_SYMBOL_GPL(phy_pm_runtime_forbid);
 
 The reasons why I think we don't need the above at all is:
 
 1. We already have a framework for that in Linux runtime PM and we
can follow the standard Linux runtime PM calls and not proxy
them in phy-core.c

The reason for adding these are for providing fine grained control of the PHY
by the controller drivers. In most cases the controller driver determines when
the PHY should be active or idle.
 
 2. We can allow idling the phy properly on the bus it's connected
to, in this case I2C, even if USB driver is not loaded. We
eventually should idle the phy even if usb_add_phy_dev()
failed

yes.. that's why we have ops like phy_power_on to tell when the PHY should be
active. So these PHYs can be idled in probe.
 
 3. There's no actual need for phy-core.c to proxy the runtime
PM calls
 
 So we can and should just let the phy drivers do their own runtime PM
 as needed based on just the phy init, power_on and power_off calls.
 
 Probably the same goes for the regulator_enable in phy-core.c. That
 should be handled in the phy driver as phy-core is already unable
 to handle it properly. For example, for phy-twl4030-usb.c we have
 three regulators to deal with and the phy framework won't have any
 idea how to deal with those.

hmm.. It was modelled for basic PHY drivers that have a single regulator (e.g.,
TI PIPE3 PHY). The idea is not to duplicate getting and enabling regulator in
each of the PHY drivers when it can be abstracted in phy-core.

Thanks
Kishon
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Re: [PATCH 3/5] usb: phy: twl4030-usb: Move code from twl4030_phy_power to the runtime PM calls

2014-09-08 Thread Tony Lindgren
* Kishon Vijay Abraham I kis...@ti.com [140908 07:26]:
 Hi Tony,
 
 On Thursday 04 September 2014 10:37 PM, Tony Lindgren wrote:
  * Kishon Vijay Abraham I kis...@ti.com [140904 06:51]:
  Hi Tony,
 
  On Thursday 28 August 2014 04:58 AM, Tony Lindgren wrote:
  We don't need twl4030_phy_power() any longer now that we have
  the runtime PM calls. Let's get rid of it as it's confusing.
  No functional changes, just move the code and use res instead
  of ret as we are not returning that value.
 
  Now that you are doing pm_runtime_get_sync in twl4030_phy_init, won't it 
  power
  on the phy even before initializing it (since runtime_resume will be 
  invoked
  even before doing phy_init)?
  
  Yes. The logic being that it should not matter as we are not
  configuring the phy until in twl4030_phy_power_on(). Maybe we
  should add code to make sure the phy is deconfigured initially
  though :)
  
  In twl4030_phy_init() we just want to check the ID pin state to get
  things right initially. In the twl4030-usb case the I2C chip is
  always on, but let's try to get the runtime PM set up like any
  standard Linux driver would do it to avoid confusion.
  
  Even if pm_runtime_get_sync in not done in twl4030_phy_init, phy-core 
  itself
  does pm_runtime_get_sync in phy_init().
  
  Hmm OK. Looking at that, looks like we don't neeed any of these
  custom exports though:
  
  $ git grep phy_pm_runtime | grep EXPORT_SYMBOL
  drivers/phy/phy-core.c:EXPORT_SYMBOL_GPL(phy_pm_runtime_get);
  drivers/phy/phy-core.c:EXPORT_SYMBOL_GPL(phy_pm_runtime_get_sync);
  drivers/phy/phy-core.c:EXPORT_SYMBOL_GPL(phy_pm_runtime_put);
  drivers/phy/phy-core.c:EXPORT_SYMBOL_GPL(phy_pm_runtime_put_sync);
  drivers/phy/phy-core.c:EXPORT_SYMBOL_GPL(phy_pm_runtime_allow);
  drivers/phy/phy-core.c:EXPORT_SYMBOL_GPL(phy_pm_runtime_forbid);
  
  The reasons why I think we don't need the above at all is:
  
  1. We already have a framework for that in Linux runtime PM and we
 can follow the standard Linux runtime PM calls and not proxy
 them in phy-core.c
 
 The reason for adding these are for providing fine grained control of the PHY
 by the controller drivers. In most cases the controller driver determines when
 the PHY should be active or idle.

Yeah but having the USB controller driver attempt to manage the
PHY did not work well. That all had to be ripped out of musb driver
in commits 30a70b026b4c and 8b2bc2c9351b.

I took a brief look at trying to fix musb + twl4030-usb runtime PM
so the USB controller driver would manage it. And that's probably
so far the only USB driver and PHY controller combo where we've had
runtime PM working in various forms in the mainline kernel.

Attempting to make the USB controller driver manage the runtime PM
for the PHY would make things unnecesarily complicated. The PHY can
sleep since it's on the I2C bus. So we'd have to implement some kind
of completion checking all over the place to attempt to keep things
in sync.

Meanwhile, having independent PHY drivers doing their own runtime
PM avoids all these issues. At minimum, it just means the PHY
driver needs to implement PHY init, power_on and power_off functions
like they already do. Then as needed, the PHY driver can implement
it's runtime PM calls.

I think what does make sense to do in the PHY framework is to keep
track of the PHY state in a generic way, and have a generic way of
telling the USB controller driver of the PHY state. That might allow
us eventually remove things like omap_musb_mailbox() calls.

And the custom exported functions above are unused AFAIK, so let's
just remove them.

  2. We can allow idling the phy properly on the bus it's connected
 to, in this case I2C, even if USB driver is not loaded. We
 eventually should idle the phy even if usb_add_phy_dev()
 failed
 
 yes.. that's why we have ops like phy_power_on to tell when the PHY should be
 active. So these PHYs can be idled in probe.

Yeah phy_power_on et al are good, and needed. But the runtime PM
should be implemented in the actual PHY drivers because of the
reasons above.
 
  3. There's no actual need for phy-core.c to proxy the runtime
 PM calls
  
  So we can and should just let the phy drivers do their own runtime PM
  as needed based on just the phy init, power_on and power_off calls.
  
  Probably the same goes for the regulator_enable in phy-core.c. That
  should be handled in the phy driver as phy-core is already unable
  to handle it properly. For example, for phy-twl4030-usb.c we have
  three regulators to deal with and the phy framework won't have any
  idea how to deal with those.
 
 hmm.. It was modelled for basic PHY drivers that have a single regulator 
 (e.g.,
 TI PIPE3 PHY). The idea is not to duplicate getting and enabling regulator in
 each of the PHY drivers when it can be abstracted in phy-core.

There's no need to for that AFAIK. That too can be implemented in the
PHY driver as part of runtime PM as needed.

Regards,

Tony
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Re: [PATCH 3/5] usb: phy: twl4030-usb: Move code from twl4030_phy_power to the runtime PM calls

2014-09-04 Thread Kishon Vijay Abraham I
Hi Tony,

On Thursday 28 August 2014 04:58 AM, Tony Lindgren wrote:
 We don't need twl4030_phy_power() any longer now that we have
 the runtime PM calls. Let's get rid of it as it's confusing.
 No functional changes, just move the code and use res instead
 of ret as we are not returning that value.

Now that you are doing pm_runtime_get_sync in twl4030_phy_init, won't it power
on the phy even before initializing it (since runtime_resume will be invoked
even before doing phy_init)?

Even if pm_runtime_get_sync in not done in twl4030_phy_init, phy-core itself
does pm_runtime_get_sync in phy_init().

Thanks
Kishon
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Re: [PATCH 3/5] usb: phy: twl4030-usb: Move code from twl4030_phy_power to the runtime PM calls

2014-09-04 Thread Tony Lindgren
* Kishon Vijay Abraham I kis...@ti.com [140904 06:51]:
 Hi Tony,
 
 On Thursday 28 August 2014 04:58 AM, Tony Lindgren wrote:
  We don't need twl4030_phy_power() any longer now that we have
  the runtime PM calls. Let's get rid of it as it's confusing.
  No functional changes, just move the code and use res instead
  of ret as we are not returning that value.
 
 Now that you are doing pm_runtime_get_sync in twl4030_phy_init, won't it power
 on the phy even before initializing it (since runtime_resume will be invoked
 even before doing phy_init)?

Yes. The logic being that it should not matter as we are not
configuring the phy until in twl4030_phy_power_on(). Maybe we
should add code to make sure the phy is deconfigured initially
though :)

In twl4030_phy_init() we just want to check the ID pin state to get
things right initially. In the twl4030-usb case the I2C chip is
always on, but let's try to get the runtime PM set up like any
standard Linux driver would do it to avoid confusion.

 Even if pm_runtime_get_sync in not done in twl4030_phy_init, phy-core itself
 does pm_runtime_get_sync in phy_init().

Hmm OK. Looking at that, looks like we don't neeed any of these
custom exports though:

$ git grep phy_pm_runtime | grep EXPORT_SYMBOL
drivers/phy/phy-core.c:EXPORT_SYMBOL_GPL(phy_pm_runtime_get);
drivers/phy/phy-core.c:EXPORT_SYMBOL_GPL(phy_pm_runtime_get_sync);
drivers/phy/phy-core.c:EXPORT_SYMBOL_GPL(phy_pm_runtime_put);
drivers/phy/phy-core.c:EXPORT_SYMBOL_GPL(phy_pm_runtime_put_sync);
drivers/phy/phy-core.c:EXPORT_SYMBOL_GPL(phy_pm_runtime_allow);
drivers/phy/phy-core.c:EXPORT_SYMBOL_GPL(phy_pm_runtime_forbid);

The reasons why I think we don't need the above at all is:

1. We already have a framework for that in Linux runtime PM and we
   can follow the standard Linux runtime PM calls and not proxy
   them in phy-core.c

2. We can allow idling the phy properly on the bus it's connected
   to, in this case I2C, even if USB driver is not loaded. We
   eventually should idle the phy even if usb_add_phy_dev()
   failed

3. There's no actual need for phy-core.c to proxy the runtime
   PM calls

So we can and should just let the phy drivers do their own runtime PM
as needed based on just the phy init, power_on and power_off calls.

Probably the same goes for the regulator_enable in phy-core.c. That
should be handled in the phy driver as phy-core is already unable
to handle it properly. For example, for phy-twl4030-usb.c we have
three regulators to deal with and the phy framework won't have any
idea how to deal with those.

And the phy-core won't be able to deal with the phy driver interrupts
anyways, so any attempt of doing finer grained runtime PM in phy-core
or handling of separate wake-up interrupts will be doomed to fail.

I think the changes above would simplify the phy handling quite
a bit, what do you think?

Regards,

Tony
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