Re: Question: array locking, possible?

2006-02-09 Thread Chris Osicki


It looks like we are the only two md users interested in such a
feature.
Not enough to get Neil's attention ;-)

Regards,
Chris

On Wed, 8 Feb 2006 21:45:33 +0100
Jure Peèar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Wed, 8 Feb 2006 11:55:49 +0100
 Chris Osicki [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  
  
  I was thinking about it, I have no idea how to do it on Linux if ever 
  possible.
  I connect over fibre channel SAN, using QLogic QLA2312 HBAS, if it matters.
  
  Anyone any hints?
 
 I too am running a jbod with md raid between two machines. So far md never
 caused any kind of problems, altough I did have situations where both
 machines were syncing mirrors at once.
 
 If there's a little tool to reserve a disk via scsi, I'd like to know about
 it too. Even a piece of code would be enough.
 
 
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Re: create a partial raid5

2006-02-09 Thread Troels Bang Jensen
Oh yeah, it's possible - I've done it in connection with disaster  
recovery (or rather, attempt thereof).


The key is to write 'missing' instead of the device name, so you just go

mdadm -C /dev/md0 --raid-level=5 --raid-devices=3 /dev/hdxx /dev/hdyy  
missing


-note that the missing drive can be anywhere you like.

Regards, Troels


On Feb 9, 2006, at 12:40 , stephan sperber wrote:


Hello!

Is it possible to create a Radi5 with only 2 disks? (I know that Raid5
needs 3 to be really redundant)

With a Raid1 I can do things like:
mdadm -C /dev/md0 --force --raid-devices=1 /dev/hdb2
mkreiserfs /dev/md0

copy files from an older drive to the raid, get the old drive out  
and put

the new disk for the raid in.
then
mdadm -G /dev/md0 --raid-disks=2
mdadm -a /dev/md0 /dev/hdc2

and the raid1 is now a real raid1 (after sync)

It would be great to have something similar for raid5:
mdadm -C /dev/md0 --force --raid-devices=2 /dev/hdb2 /dev/hdc2
mdadm -G /dev/md0 --raid-disks=3
mdadm -a /dev/md0 /dev/hda2

or
mdadm -C /dev/md0 --force --fail=/dev/hda2 --raid-devices=3 /dev/ 
hdb2 /

dev/hdc2
mdadm -a /dev/md0 /dev/hda2

i know that this is possible with raidtools and /etc/raidtab.

is this possible with the recent version of mdadm or is it a planned
feature (or not planned)?

thanks in advance
stephan



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Re: Kernels and MD versions (was: md: Introduction - raid5 reshape mark-2)

2006-02-09 Thread Mr. James W. Laferriere

Hello Patrik ,

On Wed, 8 Feb 2006, Patrik Jonsson wrote:

Neil Brown wrote:

I always make them against the latest -mm kernel, so that would be a
good place to start.  However things change quickly and I can't
promise it will apply against whatever is the 'latest' today.

If you would like to nominate a particular recent kernel, I'll create
a patch set that is guaranteed to apply against that. (Testing is
always appreciated, and well worth that small effort on my part).


I find this is a major problem for me, too. Even though I try to stay up
to date with the md developments, I have a hard time piecing together
which past patches went with which version, so if I get a recent version
I don't know which patches need to be applied and which are already in
there.

My suggestion is that Neil, should he be willing, keep a log somewhere
which detail kernel version and what major updates in md functionality
go along with it. Something like
2.6.14 raid5 read error correction
2.6.15 md /sys interface
2.6.16.rc1 raid5 reshape
2.6.16.rc2-mm4 something else cool

it would include the released kernels and the previews of the current
kernel. That way, say I see that the latest FC4 kernel is 2.6.14, I
could look and see that since the raid5 read error correction was
included, I don't have to go looking for the patches.

Maybe this is too much hassle (or maybe it's already out there
somewhere) but I'm thinking simple, and I think it would give a
high-level overview of the development for us who are not intimately
involved in every kernel version.

Iirc ,  The git/snv/cvs repositories 'can' contain this
information .  Neil (as you say , if willing) can pull the
kernel versions  Notes for his submissions from the
repository .   Hth ,  JimL
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RE: Question: array locking, possible?

2006-02-09 Thread Stern, Rick (Serviceguard Linux)
There is more interest, just not vocal.

May want to look at LVM2 and its ability to use tagging to control enablement 
of VGs. This way it is not HW dependent.

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Subject: Re: Question: array locking, possible?



It looks like we are the only two md users interested in such a
feature.
Not enough to get Neil's attention ;-)

Regards,
Chris

On Wed, 8 Feb 2006 21:45:33 +0100
Jure Peèar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Wed, 8 Feb 2006 11:55:49 +0100
 Chris Osicki [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  
  
  I was thinking about it, I have no idea how to do it on Linux if ever 
  possible.
  I connect over fibre channel SAN, using QLogic QLA2312 HBAS, if it matters.
  
  Anyone any hints?
 
 I too am running a jbod with md raid between two machines. So far md never
 caused any kind of problems, altough I did have situations where both
 machines were syncing mirrors at once.
 
 If there's a little tool to reserve a disk via scsi, I'd like to know about
 it too. Even a piece of code would be enough.
 
 
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Re: Question: array locking, possible?

2006-02-09 Thread Luca Berra

On Thu, Feb 09, 2006 at 10:28:58AM -0800, Stern, Rick (Serviceguard Linux) 
wrote:

There is more interest, just not vocal.

May want to look at LVM2 and its ability to use tagging to control enablement 
of VGs. This way it is not HW dependent.


I believe there is space in md1 superblock for a cluster/exclusive
flag, if not the name field could be used
what is missing is an interface between mdadm and cmcld so mdadm can ask
cmcld permission to activate an array with the cluster/exclusive flag
set.

L.

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Re: Question: array locking, possible?

2006-02-09 Thread Neil Brown
On Thursday February 9, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 
 It looks like we are the only two md users interested in such a
 feature.
 Not enough to get Neil's attention ;-)

:-)

Just because I haven't said anything doesn't mean I'm not listening.

Cluster awareness is definitely on my radar.  I have no firm plans yet
but I'm certainly interested in  understanding the issues.  So I'm
listening..

NeilBrown
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