Mice
What are linux users using in the way of mice these days? I use a standard 3 button logitech mouse but was wondering if any are using any of the more fancier mice available these days and good the support is for them.
php-GTK
For those that dont get enough of php with server-side programming: PHP-GTK http://gtk.php.net/ PHP-GTK is an extension for PHP programming language that implements language bindings for GTK+ toolkit. It provides an object-oriented interface to GTK+ classes and functions and greatly simplifies writing client side cross-platform GUI applications. Wonderful even on a MS desktop ... not that anyone is too interested in that environment. Cheers Will
Re: php-GTK
I looks quite good, but in my opinion PHP should be used for what it was meant for - web dev. On Tuesday 11 Mar 2003 8:17 am, Will Pilvio wrote: For those that dont get enough of php with server-side programming: PHP-GTK http://gtk.php.net/ PHP-GTK is an extension for PHP programming language that implements language bindings for GTK+ toolkit. It provides an object-oriented interface to GTK+ classes and functions and greatly simplifies writing client side cross-platform GUI applications. Wonderful even on a MS desktop ... not that anyone is too interested in that environment. Cheers Will
Re: Article and followup
On Tuesday 11 March 2003 10:12, you wrote: Hi guys, interesting article, it just goes to show that you should'nt let a 5 year old be a sysadmin ( at least without some training). Regards Michael Is that why their search engine just produces the result FrontPage Error. User: please report details to this site's webmaster. Webmaster: please see the server's application event log for more details. Seems to me that these idiots spent a fortune on Microsoft certification and trying to justify the waste of money.
usb DSE adsl modem support?
Just wondering if anybody has had any luck configuring any usb DSE adsl modems to work with linux? My box is RH-8. From proc system reveals the following info about the device: Vendor ID: 0572 #Conexant Sustems but sold by Dick Smith Electronics as their bottom of the line usb adsl modem (only windoze drivers supplied) Prod: IDcb00 #I thought it might be the Access Runner chipset but that should have a prod ID: cafe If anyone knows where I can get the driver module for this modem I would appreciate the info. cheers, kipper
Re: Mice
On Tue, 11 Mar 2003, Julian Visch wrote: What are linux users using in the way of mice these days? I use a unbranded USB optical mouse with a scroll wheel. Works perfectly and I'll never use PS/2 mice again. I also love the scroll wheel --- most applications support it now. And it cost $30 to $40 from Dick Smith (it was either $28 or $37, I can't remember). Tim
Re: 3d editing (was: CLUG tux)
On Sat, 8 Mar 2003, Martin Baehr wrote: On Thu, Mar 06, 2003 at 08:55:17PM +1300, Vik Olliver wrote: Try kpovmodeller. Actually, I'm about to start an article on 3D modeling programs for Linux so any feedback is welcomed. Vik, you will certainly have to try Blender - if you have not already done so. I have used it at work for some small stuff, and it is great! oh, i have been looking for practical not to complicated 3d editors. i looked at blender, and could not figure out how to use it (i admit i didn't try to find a tutorial) and i don't want to create complex animations either. Yes, Martin, it is the CAD-like concept of Blender - it offers quite a lot, but it is very rewarding to learn how to operate it. You either get hold of a copy of the original Blender manual from the company, or you read the (German) Blender-Buch by Carsten Wartmann, which is also an excellent book. There are also many tutorials for special use cases available from the Blender ftp server. ... it would also be nice to be able to exchange formats with windows 3d programs, because a windows-using friend of mine wants to learn 3d-editing together with me, so we need to be able to exhange our files both ways. Is Blender not available for Windows? Not quite sure, but it supports DXF files. However, with DXF import/export you always have to check how well it works with different applications... But I thought the Blender folks wanted to make it available for as many platforms as possible to get a proper share of the game engine market. Anyway, once you get going with Blender, it is really fun to exploit all the neat things like inverse kinematics for making things walk, particle models for emitting puffs of smoke, or for growing fur, or simple key frame animations, if you like with cartoon-style rendering... Blender is a professional 3D modeling and rendering software, the emphasis is on fast rendering of animations, not so much on highest quality rendering of single images. Cheers, Helmut. ++ | Helmut Walle | | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | 03 - 388 39 54 | ++
Re: 3d editing (was: CLUG tux)
On Mon, 10 Mar 2003 23:54, Helmut Walle wrote: Anyway, once you get going with Blender, it is really fun to exploit all the neat things like inverse kinematics for making things walk, particle models for emitting puffs of smoke, or for growing fur, or simple key frame animations, if you like with cartoon-style rendering... Blender is a professional 3D modeling and rendering software, the emphasis is on fast rendering of animations, not so much on highest quality rendering of single images. Speaking of Blender, The Blender Foundation recently released the first Open Source version of Blender (version 2.26, 11 Feb 2003). For those who were not following it, a quick history. Blender was created, closed source but free (as in free beer). Company (NaN) decides to get out of developing it and offers it for sale. Open Source community raises 100k euro to buy it and then develop/release it as open source. It is really cool to see projects develop like this. Blender could have easily died. I hope other companies that have old/non-key software that might be useful to someone else will Open Source it in the same way when they are no longer generating revenue/economic value from it. Later Lee I'm still waiting for a POVRay exporter Begg Cheers, Helmut.
Re: Mice
I use a Microsoft (hey, it was a gift!!) serial (to ps/2) rf intellimouse with scrollwheel. Works great. I think you'll find that mice are fairly well supported uner Linux...BUT the main distro's sometimes have difficulty configuring them correctly. If you do run into trouble, best to use Knoppix config files, no matter what distro you run. Knoppix rocks at hardware detection/configuration. Klaus modifies Kudzu to his own (highly successful) taste. Cheers Jason Tim Wright wrote: On Tue, 11 Mar 2003, Julian Visch wrote: What are linux users using in the way of mice these days? I use a unbranded USB optical mouse with a scroll wheel. Works perfectly and I'll never use PS/2 mice again. I also love the scroll wheel --- most applications support it now. And it cost $30 to $40 from Dick Smith (it was either $28 or $37, I can't remember). Tim
Re: 3d editing (was: CLUG tux)
On Mon, Mar 10, 2003 at 11:54:21PM +1300, Helmut Walle wrote: i looked at blender, and could not figure out how to use it Yes, Martin, it is the CAD-like concept of Blender ah, that gets my hopes up, i have played around with CAD many years ago, so i might handle the effort to learn this... (time, if i only had more time) it would also be nice to be able to exchange formats with windows 3d programs, because a windows-using friend of mine wants to learn 3d-editing together with me, so we need to be able to exhange our files both ways. Is Blender not available for Windows? it is, but the question was geared towards simpler programs, of which there are many for windows but none for linux it seems :-( greetings, martin. -- interested in doing pike programming, sTeam/caudium/pike/roxen training, sTeam/caudium/roxen and/or unix system administration anywhere in the world. -- pike programmer working in europe csl-gmbh.net open-steam.org (www.archlab|(www|db).hb2).tuwien.ac.at unixbahai.or.at iaeste.(tuwien.ac|or).at systemadministrator (stuts|black.linux-m68k).orgis.(schon.org|root.at) Martin Bähr http://www.iaeste.or.at/~mbaehr/
Re: Mice
I use a USB Logitech mouse with a scrollwheel. First time I used it (over a year ago on a Gentoo system) I had to recompile my kernel and manually edit my XF86Config file, but it's been peaches and cream since then.
Having problems posting to List
-- Forwarded message -- Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2003 21:51:42 +1300 From: Slosh [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Tim Wright [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: geek.co.nz Ok having just tried posting 3 times to 3 different messages and failing all three times can you post this message to the mailing list ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) asking about this? as far as i know i'm subscribed... i just can't seem to post thanks in advanced --Slosh - Original Message - From: Tim Wright [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2003 1:42 PM Subject: geek.co.nz Cool. I just read the article and realised that the guy who proposed it went to uni with me (we did computer science together). How's this for an impressive CV (his one): http://deanpemberton.com/cv/ Tim Wright Assistant Lecturer Department of Computer Science University of Canterbury http://www.cosc.canterbury.ac.nz/~tnw13
Re: 3d editing (was: CLUG tux)
On Tue, 11 Mar 2003, Martin Baehr wrote: [...] it is, but the question was geared towards simpler programs, of which there are many for windows but none for linux it seems :-( The problem with simple is that sooner or later you will need something only a complex program can deliver. Then, if you move to the more complex program all the time spent on learning the simple one goes to waste. OTOH you don't have to learn all the features of the complex one. Cheers, -- Ryurick M. Hristev mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Computer Systems Manager University of Canterbury, Physics Astronomy Dept., New Zealand
Re: 3d editing (was: CLUG tux)
On Wed, Mar 12, 2003 at 07:43:22AM +1300, Ryurick M. Hristev wrote: The problem with simple is that sooner or later you will need something only a complex program can deliver. Then, if you move to the more complex program all the time spent on learning the simple one goes to waste. i disagree with this. consider tuxpaint vs. gimp. there are general concepts in all these things that don't change. and especially learning to nativate a 3d environment through a 2d display is not easy for everyone, but once you understand it, it should not matter wich program you use then. and how can you know if i ever have the need for the complex stuff. i am not a professional designer, i just want to experiment a bit with 3d geometry, build shapes, rotate them and see how they appear from various sides. would you use blender in school to teach 3rdgraders the geometry of a cone? sure, my shapes will be more complex that that, but not that much more complex... OTOH you don't have to learn all the features of the complex one. but you need to learn a lot more just to get started. greetings, martin. -- interested in doing pike programming, sTeam/caudium/pike/roxen training, sTeam/caudium/roxen and/or unix system administration anywhere in the world. -- pike programmer working in europe csl-gmbh.net open-steam.org (www.archlab|(www|db).hb2).tuwien.ac.at unixbahai.or.at iaeste.(tuwien.ac|or).at systemadministrator (stuts|black.linux-m68k).orgis.(schon.org|root.at) Martin Bähr http://www.iaeste.or.at/~mbaehr/
Re: Mice
On Tue, 11 Mar 2003, Julian Visch wrote: What are linux users using in the way of mice these days? I use a standard 3 button logitech mouse but was wondering if any are using any of the more fancier mice available these days and good the support is for them. I'm using the A4 Tech Optical USB mouse with scroll wheels. Works very very nicely thank you. X doesn't support all the buttons, but does support the one of the scroll wheels. I'm sure they will get around to it. The A4 Tech mice are available from Dick Smith (www.dse.co.nz) (Does anyone else read .co.nz as .conz?) I get dreams of lust and sadness whenever I see these optical cordless mice. John Carter Phone : (64)(3) 358 6639 Tait ElectronicsFax : (64)(3) 359 4632 PO Box 1645 ChristchurchEmail : [EMAIL PROTECTED] New Zealand John's law :- All advances in computing have arisen through the creation of an additional level of indirection, the trick is to work out which indirection is actually useful.
Re: 3d editing (was: CLUG tux)
On Wed, Mar 12, 2003 at 08:40:41AM +1300, Ryurick M. Hristev wrote: there are general concepts in all these things that don't change. I wasn't talking about general concepts but specific techniques. This is were you spend most of the time and they are not transferable. only if your goal is to complete a specific project, not of you just want to learn about 3d editing in general. Educational software is a completely different kettle of fish. I was under the impression that we were talking about mature audience. (you specified that you want it for you not for a 3rd grader) right, but being mature doesn't mean i am willing to waste a lot of time learning things i don't need, on the contrary, the older i get the less i want to learn things i have no need for. what i need is quick prototying. it should not take more than a few minutes from star to sketching up the shape to see if my ideas work out. after that i may spend a few hours or days of finetuning to make it look correctly. i don't think that to that end any time spent learning say tuxpaint is a waste of time even if i know that later i will want to use the power of gimp. i rather believe that learning the limits of a simple program will make me appreciate the power of the more difficoult program and i won't spend one moment on thinking how much learning i could have saved if i had started with gimp first. greetings, martin. -- interested in doing pike programming, sTeam/caudium/pike/roxen training, sTeam/caudium/roxen and/or unix system administration anywhere in the world. -- pike programmer working in europe csl-gmbh.net open-steam.org (www.archlab|(www|db).hb2).tuwien.ac.at unixbahai.or.at iaeste.(tuwien.ac|or).at systemadministrator (stuts|black.linux-m68k).orgis.(schon.org|root.at) Martin Bähr http://www.iaeste.or.at/~mbaehr/
Re: Installfest Refreshment Helper Needed Please
I'll still be there in the morning with my coffee machine. I gotta go at noon though to prepare for my birthday BBQ Yuri Thus spake Jason on this Thu, 06 Mar 2003 : ] Hi All, ] ] We had our first Installfest 2003 meeting tonight. It was decided that ] we need someone to volunteer to be the refreshments person. This person ] will co-ordinate coffee/tea/Cocoa and/or Juice/Water for those that ] don't drink it. This person may wish to organise finger foods etc. as ] well. This is primarily for the installers and crew that will be working ] throughout the day helping installees. ] ] We decided that we need to ensure we all bring our own lunches but we ] still need a refreshments organiser for the day. The CLUG has some ] limited funds which could be put towards purchases but ideally we'd be ] looking for someone to do some things out of the goodness of their hearts. ] ] Please reply onlist if you have anyone in mind who can help in this ] capacity. ] ] Thanks in advance. ] ] Kind Regards, ] ] Jason Greenwood
Re: Installfest Refreshment Helper Needed Please
Cool, thanks for that...but I don't drink coffee/tea just FYI. =) Cheers Yuri de Groot wrote: I'll still be there in the morning with my coffee machine. I gotta go at noon though to prepare for my birthday BBQ Yuri Thus spake Jason on this Thu, 06 Mar 2003 : ] Hi All, ] ] We had our first Installfest 2003 meeting tonight. It was decided that ] we need someone to volunteer to be the refreshments person. This person ] will co-ordinate coffee/tea/Cocoa and/or Juice/Water for those that ] don't drink it. This person may wish to organise finger foods etc. as ] well. This is primarily for the installers and crew that will be working ] throughout the day helping installees. ] ] We decided that we need to ensure we all bring our own lunches but we ] still need a refreshments organiser for the day. The CLUG has some ] limited funds which could be put towards purchases but ideally we'd be ] looking for someone to do some things out of the goodness of their hearts. ] ] Please reply onlist if you have anyone in mind who can help in this ] capacity. ] ] Thanks in advance. ] ] Kind Regards, ] ] Jason Greenwood
Re: Mice
Same usb Logitech optical mouse w/ scrollwheel, but plugged it in and was away laughing in Mandrake. Except I had to use my PS/2 mouse to change the mouse settings to USB. I tried to get them both to work at the same time in XF68 3.3.6, but even though I followed the how-to to the letter it didn't work first time, and I haven't gone back to try again. In theory, is there any limit to the number of mice that can be handled simultaneously in XF86? I can't think of a reason why one would want 4 or 5 people controlling the same pointer, but would be fun to try. Also, does a usb mouse provide a better performance than the equivalent mouse, in a PS/2 port? I would have thought that any differences would have been almost indiscernible. Andy kipper [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] g.co.nz cc: Subject: Re: Mice 12/03/2003 20:23 Please respond to linux-users I use a USB Logitech mouse with a scrollwheel. First time I used it (over a year ago on a Gentoo system) I had to recompile my kernel and manually edit my XF86Config file, but it's been peaches and cream since then.
Can any one lend 'installfes't a cash register
Hi, I feel a cash register would be good at the installfest. Can any one lend out one for the event, this Saturday at all please? Nick Elder
Finances
Very approximately we had $500 in the kitty after the last meeting. Most of that is spent: 200 Blank CD's $245 T-shirts$180 Knoppix copies $20 C Sawtell for parts for PABX $20 Total cash expenditure $465 also we have an outstanding account to OSTC for $70 for use of the premises for the installer's training session last Saturday (thanks for the credit David). I am also aware that at least Leo (masking tape etc), and probably others have incurred expenditure. We will hopefully have an income of, say 180 cd's @ $5 = $900 (allowing for coasters etc.) This essentially means that we do not have enough funds as at today to buy any more cd's. If we run out on the day we can either: a. shoot off to a computer shop/the warehouse; or b. concentrate on net installs and provide cd's later if people want them. -- Nick Rout [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Mice
In theory, is there any limit to the number of mice that can be handled simultaneously in XF86? AFAIK, no. You just use the send core events argument and it should work. Here are the relevant parts of my config: Section ServerLayout Identifier XFree86 Configured Screen 0 Screen0 0 0 InputDeviceKeyboard0 CoreKeyboard InputDevicePS/2 Mouse CorePointer InputDevice USB Mouse SendCoreEvents Section InputDevice Identifier PS/2 Mouse Driver mouse Option Protocol PS/2 Option Device /dev/psaux Option Emulate3Buttons true Option Emulate3Timeout 70 Option SendCoreEvents true EndSection I can't think of a reason why one would want 4 or 5 people controlling the same pointer, but would be fun to try. Also, does a usb mouse provide a better performance than the equivalent mouse, in a PS/2 port? I would have thought that any differences would have been almost indiscernible. My work usb mouse seems to be fractionally more responsive than my ps/2 one at home but my home mouse is rf so that may be the reason...
Re: Mice, and also Tablet
I'm using a Logitech TrackMan Marble (PS2). Bit of a museum-piece, perhaps; but neither of my RedHat 7.3 (kernels 2.4.18-3 and 2.4.18-20something.7) systems has ever given one iota of strife over it. Can anyone recommend a drawing tablet for use in digital photo retouching with the GIMP? I get contradictory advice, and there's not much in the shops here (Nelson) to look at. I don't want to buy something that's said to be usable on a Linux system but turns out not to be (like my Pen drive...another story). =AMP Andrew M. Packer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Mice, and also Tablet
I would advise _against_ the Genius WizardPen USB tablet. It is cheap works well under Windows, but I have had no luck getting it going under Linux. It has no drivers standard HCI style drivers don't seem to work. As a side note, if anybody has any experience hacking on USB devices I would be keen to talk to you - writing/adapting a driver for this device has been a back-burner project for a while. Cheers Brad -Original Message- From: Andrew Packer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, 12 March 2003 10:11 a.m. To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Mice, and also Tablet I'm using a Logitech TrackMan Marble (PS2). Bit of a museum-piece, perhaps; but neither of my RedHat 7.3 (kernels 2.4.18-3 and 2.4.18-20something.7) systems has ever given one iota of strife over it. Can anyone recommend a drawing tablet for use in digital photo retouching with the GIMP? I get contradictory advice, and there's not much in the shops here (Nelson) to look at. I don't want to buy something that's said to be usable on a Linux system but turns out not to be (like my Pen drive...another story). =AMP Andrew M. Packer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Mice
I also have one of the A4 Tech optical mice with 5 buttons. X does support all of the buttons. Here is the relevant part of my XF86Config-4: Identifier Mouse1 Driver mouse Option Protocol ExplorerPS/2 Option Device /dev/psaux Option Emulate3Buttonsfalse Option ZAxisMapping6 7 Option Buttons 7 The only thing I have ever worked out how to use them in is QuakeIII. I can't say I have tried hard to find out if any other apps can use them. I don't even use them in Quake anymore because in the heat of battle I squeeze the mouse tightly and click the buttons on the side when I don't mean to :\ -- Adrian Robertson Christchurch New Zealand ICQ: 72041173 http://www.gotroot.net.nz/
Re: Mice
On Wed, 12 Mar 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In theory, is there any limit to the number of mice that can be handled simultaneously in XF86? I can't think of a reason why one would want 4 or 5 people controlling the same pointer, but would be fun to try. No limit, at least under 2.4.19 and greater kernels. Here's actually what happens (I examined the kernel code a few months ago for a strange project --- I even modified the kernel code to try to do something similar with keyboards, but stopped when I realised I'd have to replicate all the kernel keyboard buffer code and scancode translation logic). When you plug a new USB mouse into your computer the kernel creates a file /dev/mice/mouse? (where ? is a number). If you ignore this file then all events from that mouse get redirected to /dev/misc/psaux (the standard PS/2 mouse device). If you tell X that your mouse device is /dev/misc/psaux then you can use as many USB mice as you want to. If you open and read that file (/dev/mice/mouse?) then you get the input stream from the mouse, and the mouse events are no longer sent to /dev/misc/psaux ooh, I'm assuming you're using devfs. Otherwise I have no idea the file names, and things could easily work differently. Also, does a usb mouse provide a better performance than the equivalent mouse, in a PS/2 port? I would have thought that any differences would have been almost indiscernible. USB mice update on the screen many times more per second than PS/2 mice. It's especially noticeable when moving the mouse in circles, and very very noticeable when playing games like Quake. Tim Wright Assistant Lecturer Department of Computer Science University of Canterbury http://www.cosc.canterbury.ac.nz/~tnw13
Re: Mice
On Tue, 2003-03-11 at 20:20, Julian Visch wrote: What are linux users using in the way of mice these days? I use a standard 3 button logitech mouse but was wondering if any are using any of the more fancier mice available these days and good the support is for them. I have MS wheel mouse optical mice on most of my linux boxes, with USB or PS/2 connections. Works beautifully, the scroll wheel is highly addictive. Two niggles though (not even complaints) 1) VNC doesn't send the scroll wheel. 2) Some other programs don't support it (xpdf for one) or only recognise it after you click in the window. And you can put a lego person inside them (can't find link currently)
Re: Mice
On Wed, 12 Mar 2003 11:23:37 +1300 C Falconer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And you can put a lego person inside them (can't find link currently) LOL... seen that http://metku.net/cryo/ cheers -- Delio
Re: php-GTK onwards to PHP v5
Hi Paul, I do think you should re-evaluate your perception of what PHP was meant for. I am of the view that it has steadily been stepping out of its old shoes and PHPv5 is promising very advanced OO capabilities. (http://www.devx.com/webdev/Article/10007). Also, this article: http://www.internetnews.com/dev-news/article.php/2107291 (the grants but especially the 3rd and 2nd last paragraphs) does wet my appetite further. Consider: - Works server-side - Works client-side - multi-platform - very quick and easy to code - speed - runs on a terminal, GUI, web interface - IDE (betas) - compiler (being promised) - pure-bred OO (promised with v5) - Huge amount of GPL applications, classes and technical skill can be found - FREE What's missing? and Why not? Alternatives? - C: Development too slow - Java: I Dont like programming in it... - Python: Maybe - Perl: reading Hebrew is not as hard - Ruby: Yes, I like this, but its much too young to predict where it will go - Delphi: ? Its next release will be quite important for its future. I dont think I have missed anything else worth mentioning. (Doesn't VB stand for Victoria Bitter?) Cheers Will At 21:34 2003-03-11 +, you wrote: I looks quite good, but in my opinion PHP should be used for what it was meant for - web dev. On Tuesday 11 Mar 2003 8:17 am, Will Pilvio wrote: For those that dont get enough of php with server-side programming: PHP-GTK http://gtk.php.net/ PHP-GTK is an extension for PHP programming language that implements language bindings for GTK+ toolkit. It provides an object-oriented interface to GTK+ classes and functions and greatly simplifies writing client side cross-platform GUI applications.
Re: Mice
On Wed, 12 Mar 2003, C Falconer wrote: 2) Some other programs don't support it (xpdf for one) or only recognise it after you click in the window. yeah, xpdf is strange. Sometimes pressing 'q' to quit doesn't work unless you've selected the pane where your document is being displayed. However, that's better than Acroread, which doesn't support the scroll wheel at all. Tim Wright Assistant Lecturer Department of Computer Science University of Canterbury http://www.cosc.canterbury.ac.nz/~tnw13
OSTC Courses
Hey, There is a SAMBA course tonight at 6:00pm. It's not to late to sign up if you are interested. We have a teacher for the PHP course. For those people who were interested in this course, you should suggest dates and times that suit you for the course. Is anyone else interested in joining in on the Filtering Mail Server course? This will be more of a joint project than an instructor led course. Someone has requested a Perl course. Does anyone want to teach this course? Is anyone else interested in learning Perl? Don't be shy about suggesting new course topics. It's really not that scary. I have changed the permissions on the forum so anyone can view the messages, but you have to be registered to post. This means that I can contact people to notify them when courses they have expressed an interest in are scheduled. As always the forum is at http://www.ostc.org/forum/ Later David Kirk
Re: Mice
Two niggles though (not even complaints) 1) VNC doesn't send the scroll wheel. I pretty sure I have had this work, but only when using Linux as both server client. Col.
Re: Mice
On Tue, 11 Mar 2003 20:20:02 +1300 Julian Visch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What are linux users using in the way of mice these days? I use a standard 3 button logitech mouse but was wondering if any are using any of the more fancier mice available these days and good the support is for them. hi using: - generic bottom of the line optical scroll mouse ps/2 from dick smiths - one of those ergonomic keyboards with a built in touchpad thingy below the arrow keys (connectors: keys = ps/2 mouse = serial) - old style optical mouse that requires a reflective pad that's been done up with a grid all except the latter were easy as to install/run. cheers peter
RE: Mice
Two niggles though (not even complaints) 1) VNC doesn't send the scroll wheel. I pretty sure I have had this work, but only when using Linux as both server client. I would think it would only work if both the remote and host were set up to use a scroll wheel. The remote sends the mouse commands to the remote whose X server has to interpret them. If the remote X server isn't set up to use a scroll wheel then it won't work. Just a guess. Later David Kirk
Re: OSTC Courses
DAMN, I really wanted to go to this one...I need Samba help. Unfortunately I am busy tonight, I am usually only free on Tuesday/Thurs/Saturday nights. Bugga. Any chance this course will be run again?? Cheers David Kirk wrote: Hey, There is a SAMBA course tonight at 6:00pm. It's not to late to sign up if you are interested. We have a teacher for the PHP course. For those people who were interested in this course, you should suggest dates and times that suit you for the course. Is anyone else interested in joining in on the Filtering Mail Server course? This will be more of a joint project than an instructor led course. Someone has requested a Perl course. Does anyone want to teach this course? Is anyone else interested in learning Perl? Don't be shy about suggesting new course topics. It's really not that scary. I have changed the permissions on the forum so anyone can view the messages, but you have to be registered to post. This means that I can contact people to notify them when courses they have expressed an interest in are scheduled. As always the forum is at http://www.ostc.org/forum/ Later David Kirk
RE: OSTC Courses
Jason wrote: DAMN, I really wanted to go to this one...I need Samba help. Unfortunately I am busy tonight, I am usually only free on Tuesday/Thurs/Saturday nights. Bugga. Any chance this course will be run again?? It is unfortunate that you are going to miss this course. You really needed to post to the forum that you were interested and when you were available. I am not a mind reader :-) You can post a message to the forum asking for another Samba course if you like. Maybe there are others out there who are interested too? I'm hoping there will be a lot more interest after the Installfest this weekend. Later David Kirk
Re: OSTC Courses
Yes, you are right...it is my fault. I thought I was going to be able to get free for it tonight but alas, no. I am sure I am not the only one needing to do a bit of the Samba. How many are signed up as of now?? David Kirk wrote: Jason wrote: DAMN, I really wanted to go to this one...I need Samba help. Unfortunately I am busy tonight, I am usually only free on Tuesday/Thurs/Saturday nights. Bugga. Any chance this course will be run again?? It is unfortunate that you are going to miss this course. You really needed to post to the forum that you were interested and when you were available. I am not a mind reader :-) You can post a message to the forum asking for another Samba course if you like. Maybe there are others out there who are interested too? I'm hoping there will be a lot more interest after the Installfest this weekend. Later David Kirk
Re: php-GTK onwards to PHP v5
On Wed, Mar 12, 2003 at 11:34:57AM +1300, Will Pilvio wrote: Alternatives? - C: Development too slow - Java: I Dont like programming in it... - Python: Maybe - Perl: reading Hebrew is not as hard - Ruby: Yes, I like this, but its much too young to predict where it will go - Delphi: ? Its next release will be quite important for its future. I dont think I have missed anything else worth mentioning. (Doesn't VB stand for Victoria Bitter?) you missed pike: pike.ida.liu.se it has all of the features you mentioned above (except a compiler for standalone binaries (it has a compiler though)) and pike is not as wide spread, so less people that know it and less apps (but a few quite excellent ones: www.caudium.org, www.open-steam.org, community.roxen.com) pike has pure OO from the first generation written 15 years ago (under the name of LPC) it is available under LGPL and MPL (unlike zend which is needed for fast php i think) it is a lot faster, (dare i say :-) greetings, martin. -- interested in doing pike programming, sTeam/caudium/pike/roxen training, sTeam/caudium/roxen and/or unix system administration anywhere in the world. -- pike programmer working in europe csl-gmbh.net open-steam.org (www.archlab|(www|db).hb2).tuwien.ac.at unixbahai.or.at iaeste.(tuwien.ac|or).at systemadministrator (stuts|black.linux-m68k).orgis.(schon.org|root.at) Martin Bähr http://www.iaeste.or.at/~mbaehr/
Re: OSTC Courses
That would be awesome, if it's doable. Like I said, Tues or Thursday night I could do. Cheers PS, congrats on the system, how'd she win that?? David Kirk wrote: Jason wrote: Yes, you are right...it is my fault. I thought I was going to be able to get free for it tonight but alas, no. I am sure I am not the only one needing to do a bit of the Samba. How many are signed up as of now?? Just two of us. Me and Mahesh. I suppose if Mahesh agrees (if he's reading this), we can put it off until next week (that would give me a chance to set up the new 29 TV, DVD and Home Theatre system my wife just won :-) Later David Kirk
RE: OSTC Courses
That would be awesome, if it's doable. Like I said, Tues or Thursday night I could do. Cheers PS, congrats on the system, how'd she win that?? She works at Telecom. They always run inhouse competitions for the staff to motivate them to sell more cell phones or sell more land lines etc. This time her name came out of the hat. Later David Kirk
Re: OSTC Courses
On Wednesday, March 12, 2003, at 12:32 PM, David Kirk wrote: Someone has requested a Perl course. Does anyone want to teach this course? I'm far too self taught to teach it, but if it goes ahead I'm happy to come along as backup. -- Michael PGP.sig Description: PGP signature
RE: OSTC Courses
Michael wrote: I'm far too self taught to teach it, but if it goes ahead I'm happy to come along as backup. I just did a quick google for perl tutorial and found heaps of stuff. If nobody else steps up, maybe you could teach a course based on one of those tutorials? Later David Kirk
RE: OSTC Courses - Attn : Jason Greenwood.
Just two of us. Me and Mahesh. I suppose if Mahesh agrees (if he's reading this), we can put it off until next week (that would give me a chance to set up the new 29 TV, DVD and Home Theatre system my wife just won :-) I agree, i am willing to wait for jason, if you are david. Is next tuesday good for everyone? More the merrier.. i say. = For Linux CD's check out http://www.xsolutions.co.nz http://mobile.yahoo.com.au - Yahoo! Mobile - Check compose your email via SMS on your Telstra or Vodafone mobile.
Re: OSTC Courses - Attn : Jason Greenwood.
Thanks Mahesh, much appreciated. If that's cool, I'll be keen for Tuesday (18th) evening. Cheers Mahesh De Silva wrote: Just two of us. Me and Mahesh. I suppose if Mahesh agrees (if he's reading this), we can put it off until next week (that would give me a chance to set up the new 29 TV, DVD and Home Theatre system my wife just won :-) I agree, i am willing to wait for jason, if you are david. Is next tuesday good for everyone? More the merrier.. i say. = For Linux CD's check out http://www.xsolutions.co.nz http://mobile.yahoo.com.au - Yahoo! Mobile - Check compose your email via SMS on your Telstra or Vodafone mobile.
RE: OSTC Courses - Attn : Jason Greenwood.
Jason and Mahesh, Thanks Mahesh, much appreciated. If that's cool, I'll be keen for Tuesday (18th) evening. I agree, i am willing to wait for jason, if you are david. Is next tuesday good for everyone? More the merrier.. i say. OK. It's agreed then. The Samba course will run at 6:00pm next Tuesday. Anyone else? Later David Kirk
Splitting an AVI file
I need to split an AVI or MPEG file up into individual frames in JPG/PNG/TGA format. Any good tools for the job? Vik :v)
Re: Demo machines needed 4 installfest?
i see no harm (does this computer have a burner ? ) |ben Chris Wilkinson said: Hi there, Do the CLUG need demo machines running at the installfest, to show all the cool things linux can do? My Terminator can show-off scanning, photo-retouching, printing, OpenGl 3D stuff, MP3's, etc...oh, an my desktop is beautiful! :^) Just thought it would be cool to have a machine sitting by, for punters to play on whilst linux is beingt loaded on their machine... L8R, Chris Blob. /--\ | Ben Devine | |Web Designer | Linux Lover| | | | PHP,HTML,MySQL,Javascript,CSS | | DHTML,Flash,Actionscript| | | | bendevine.com| | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | \--/
Re: Demo machines needed 4 installfest?
Hi.. As a would be punter I think it is be a good idea..save me fealing less like Alice in Linuxland Bob Bernard
Re: Splitting an AVI file
On Wed, 12 Mar 2003 16:28, Vik Olliver wrote: I need to split an AVI or MPEG file up into individual frames in JPG/PNG/TGA format. Any good tools for the job? GIMP can split any xanim readable file into frames. -- C. S.
Re: Splitting an AVI file
Transcode should be able to do this. Also if you prefer a gui, try avidemux as it might do the trick. cheers, kipper - Original Message - From: Vik Olliver [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CLUG [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2003 4:28 PM Subject: Splitting an AVI file I need to split an AVI or MPEG file up into individual frames in JPG/PNG/TGA format. Any good tools for the job? Vik :v)
Re: Demo machines needed 4 installfest?
Hi there, Robert Bernard wrote: Hi.. As a would be punter I think it is be a good idea..save me fealing less like Alice in Linuxland Bob Bernard No problem. I think the 'linux guys are command-line freaks' mantra is perhaps something that puts off anyone wishing to try linux. I had my doubts, but as I've discovered more can be done with linux than with any other OS so long as a little patience and adventurous nature come into play... Kind regards, Chris Wilkinson.
Re: php-GTK onwards to PHP v5
PHP 5 isnt out yet. - Works server-side No surprises there - speed It one of the slowest popular languages. - runs on a terminal, GUI, web interface how many people have PHP installed for use in the command line? - Huge amount of GPL applications, classes and technical skill can be found - FREE What's missing? and Why not? Alternatives? - C: Development too slow - Java: I Dont like programming in it... - Python: Maybe - Perl: reading Hebrew is not as hard - Ruby: Yes, I like this, but its much too young to predict where it will go - Delphi: ? Its next release will be quite important for its future. I dont think I have missed anything else worth mentioning. (Doesn't VB stand for Victoria Bitter?) Cheers Will At 21:34 2003-03-11 +, you wrote: I looks quite good, but in my opinion PHP should be used for what it was meant for - web dev. On Tuesday 11 Mar 2003 8:17 am, Will Pilvio wrote: For those that dont get enough of php with server-side programming: PHP-GTK http://gtk.php.net/ PHP-GTK is an extension for PHP programming language that implements language bindings for GTK+ toolkit. It provides an object-oriented interface to GTK+ classes and functions and greatly simplifies writing client side cross-platform GUI applications.
