Re: measurement software for electrical networks?

2009-09-08 Thread Ross Drummond
On Tuesday 08 September 2009, Wesley Parish wrote:
 Well, for what it's worth, it's not getting any better; and I have
 disproved a couple of contentions of the amateurs I've talked to so far at
 Telecom and Paradise.net.nz - I've used the second jackpoint in the flat,
 and it's still falling over like a drunk with half a keg of vodka inside of
 him; and I've just upgraded the PC - and the connection's still falling
 over like aforementioned drunk.

  Wesley Parish

I see you have a Paradise email address. This means that your connections will 
be through Telstra Clear's Lucent remote access server.

Go to this archived message and apply the work around suggested there;

http://www.mail-archive.com/linux-users@it.canterbury.ac.nz/msg50654.html

If that fails to work append the line debug to your /etc/ppp/options file. 
This will output a lot of stuff to your /var/log/messages file and may give 
you a clue about what is going on.

Cheers Ross Drummond



Re: measurement software for electrical networks?

2009-09-08 Thread Nick Rout
On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 7:03 PM, Ross Drummondr...@ashburton.co.nz wrote:
 On Tuesday 08 September 2009, Wesley Parish wrote:
 Well, for what it's worth, it's not getting any better; and I have
 disproved a couple of contentions of the amateurs I've talked to so far at
 Telecom and Paradise.net.nz - I've used the second jackpoint in the flat,
 and it's still falling over like a drunk with half a keg of vodka inside of
 him; and I've just upgraded the PC - and the connection's still falling
 over like aforementioned drunk.

  Wesley Parish

 I see you have a Paradise email address. This means that your connections will
 be through Telstra Clear's Lucent remote access server.

 Go to this archived message and apply the work around suggested there;

 http://www.mail-archive.com/linux-users@it.canterbury.ac.nz/msg50654.html

 If that fails to work append the line debug to your /etc/ppp/options file.
 This will output a lot of stuff to your /var/log/messages file and may give
 you a clue about what is going on.

 Cheers Ross Drummond



Indeed if it is an MRU problem then some sites just won't open and you
sit there forever wondering why. Others work fine. It depends on
whether there are broken routers between you and the relevant web
site.


Pronounce sudo

2009-09-08 Thread Robert Fisher

Today I came across a reminder of the meaning of sudo
super user do

So how should it be pronounced?

soo-doo or soo-dough


Re: Pronounce sudo

2009-09-08 Thread steve
The latter...
On Wed, 2009-09-09 at 15:55 +1200, Robert Fisher wrote:
 Today I came across a reminder of the meaning of sudo
 super user do
 
 So how should it be pronounced?
 
 soo-doo or soo-dough
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Re: Pronounce sudo

2009-09-08 Thread David Merriman
When you realise you've just done something stupid, it's soo-d'oh! :)


2009/9/9 Robert Fisher rob...@fisher.net.nz

 Today I came across a reminder of the meaning of sudo
 super user do

 So how should it be pronounced?

 soo-doo or soo-dough



Re: Pronounce sudo

2009-09-08 Thread Robert Fisher

steve wrote:

The latter...
On Wed, 2009-09-09 at 15:55 +1200, Robert Fisher wrote:
  

Today I came across a reminder of the meaning of sudo
super user do

So how should it be pronounced?

soo-doo or soo-dough


Is that your answer, your guess or your preference?


Re: Pronounce sudo

2009-09-08 Thread John Hyde
Remember that sudo allows a permitted user to execute a command as the 
superuser or *another user*


So you don't have to become superuser - you can become 'fred' or 'dunedin'.

Just like the su command means 'switch user'. (Not superuser)

John

BTW I have heard  both soo-dough and soo-doo 50/50.

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To: linux-users@it.canterbury.ac.nz
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Subject: Re: Pronounce sudo



steve wrote:

The latter...
On Wed, 2009-09-09 at 15:55 +1200, Robert Fisher wrote:


Today I came across a reminder of the meaning of sudo
super user do

So how should it be pronounced?

soo-doo or soo-dough


Is that your answer, your guess or your preference?




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Re: Pronounce sudo

2009-09-08 Thread steve
On Wed, 2009-09-09 at 16:14 +1200, Robert Fisher wrote:
 steve wrote:
  The latter...
  On Wed, 2009-09-09 at 15:55 +1200, Robert Fisher wrote:

  Today I came across a reminder of the meaning of sudo
  super user do
 
  So how should it be pronounced?
 
  soo-doo or soo-dough
  
 Is that your answer, your guess or your preference?
My answer, and note John's point that it *isn't* super. Although
interestingly wikipedia disagrees. I've never, ever heard it pronounced
otherwise... and as for the third alternative, well that's just plain
silly! So I suppose it's my preference.

David, if Phil Collins is using it, is sususudo?

Steve
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Re: Pronounce sudo

2009-09-08 Thread Jim Cheetham
On Wed, Sep 9, 2009 at 3:55 PM, Robert Fisherrob...@fisher.net.nz wrote:
 So how should it be pronounced?

 soo-doo or soo-dough

S U do

Which is correct - I will dough this job / I will do this job ?
Next question - su fred is S U fred / Sue fred ?

-jim


Re: Pronounce sudo

2009-09-08 Thread John Carter

On Wed, 9 Sep 2009, Robert Fisher wrote:


Today I came across a reminder of the meaning of sudo
super user do

So how should it be pronounced?

soo-doo or soo-dough



Dough make me a sandwich just wouldn't make sense!

http://xkcd.com/149/

Sue, do make me a sandwich.

Now if I just had a wife called Sue who always did what I told her to
do...

Talk about an impossible dream. :-))

Trouble is, if this Mythical unix Sue is anything like my wife...

It'll be,

make sandwich
make: only you can make sandwich. Lazy toad.

sudo make sandwich
[sudo] password for johnc: please
Sorry, try again.
[sudo] password for johnc: I'll take the rubbish out.
[sudo] And bring in the washing while you're out there!


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