Re: cable testing?
On Thursday 04 March 2010 16:24:02 Nick Rout wrote: On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 4:13 PM, Craig Falconer cfalco...@totalteam.co.nz wrote: Christopher Sawtell wrote, On 04/03/10 14:42: Stop - first check you have plugs that match your cable. RJ45 plugs for solid do not work well on stranded and vice versa. How do you tell the difference? Without trying to be funny - you read the label. Someone should tell DSE to label theirs properly then! The RJ45 crimps sold by Dick Smiths are for stranded cable. Experience has taught me to use the plugs that match the cable, no matter how many times people have said They still work if you squeeze them hard enough. Wayne
Re: cable testing?
On Thursday 04 March 2010 14:28:11 Nick Rout wrote: Having now cross-examined the cable layer (she who must be skinny enough to crawl under the house) I suspect the cable may have been damaged going around some brick work and needing a damn good tug at some points. She has volunteered to try again [1], luckily we have plenty of cable. I will report back in due course. Tried testing the cable before you crimp the ends on? Use your ohmmeter: Strip off both ends, at the first end twist all eight wires together, at the second end you should read a short between all cores. Then, at the first end untwist all eight wires and ensure they are not touching, at the second end you should read an open circuit between all cores. May save another trip under the house... Wayne
Re: cable testing?
On Thu 04 Mar 2010 14:30:48 NZDT +1300, Craig Falconer wrote: Secondly - if you fasten the new wire to the old wire and pull it through, then there's no need to go under the house again. If the first attempt broke the cable by pulling it hard around some sharp corners, you'll be wasting your time and your cable trying to do the same thing again. Only the crawling approach will work. Volker -- Volker Kuhlmann is list0570 with the domain in header http://volker.dnsalias.net/ Please do not CC list postings to me.
Re: cable testing?
On Thu 04 Mar 2010 16:24:02 NZDT +1300, Nick Rout wrote: How do you tell the difference? Without trying to be funny - you read the label. Someone should tell DSE to label theirs properly then! Correct, and the best way to achieve this is by telling them they're incompetent and unfortunately one has to buy elsewhere because their product is insufficiently labeled and therefore useless. Seriously, 15 cents difference on a plug of the correct type is plain not worth any of your time. Computer Dynamics have a pretty good catalog online for the general public, you have to have an account to buy there but you won't have any trouble finding someone to pick things up for you. I believe it's also possible for an account holder to have things shipped straight to the customer. Volker -- Volker Kuhlmann is list0570 with the domain in header http://volker.dnsalias.net/ Please do not CC list postings to me.
Re: cable testing?
On Thu 04 Mar 2010 20:47:51 NZDT +1300, Hadley Rich wrote: Dad (who has been doing this as a living since I was born) says to talk to Shane at Rexel. Yeah, I buy all that sort of stuff off Rexel too. There must be a secret I haven't figured yet. Electrical so-called wholesalers' pricing, Rexel being no exception, is [X] A lough [X] Astronomical [X] Phantastic [X] Someone's wet dream [X] Downright offensive [XXX] All of the above I don't even bother contacting those jokers any more. They're just wasting my time. Volker -- Volker Kuhlmann is list0570 with the domain in header http://volker.dnsalias.net/ Please do not CC list postings to me.
REMINDER: Christchurch NZPUG Meetup Today
Hi all, Just a reminder that the Christchurch NZPUG meetup is today. Here are the details again from the email I sent out on Monday: Again we ask that you send an email to meeting-christchurch AT nzpug dot org so we have an idea of those who are coming along and can also ensure your name goes in the draw for a free eBook courtesy of O'Reilly. **Again we'll order some pizzas so please bring along some money to contribute to this (usually works out at about $7-8 each)** Details are as follows: Date: 5 March 2010 Time: 5:30-7:30pm URL: http://nzpug.org/MeetingsChristchurch/Mar2010 Talks: * DarrylCousins: Demo: Building a web application using repoze.bfg Look forward to seeing you all there! Kind regards, Tim
Re: cable testing?
On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 8:53 PM, Maurice Butler likema...@quicksilver.net.nz wrote: Most of the electrical wholesalers stock satelite, audio, network gear now days Maurice Even Bunnings stock the stuff!! DSE becomes the default because they are open in the weekends!
twitter clients?
What do people recommend? I'm sick of gtwitter crashing for no apparent reason! Ubuntu 9.10 64 bit platform... Cheers, Steve -- Steve Holdoway st...@greengecko.co.nz http://www.greengecko.co.nz MSN: st...@greengecko.co.nz GPG Fingerprint = B337 828D 03E1 4F11 CB90 853C C8AB AF04 EF68 52E0 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: twitter clients?
On 5 March 2010 11:17, Steve Holdoway st...@greengecko.co.nz wrote: What do people recommend? I'm sick of gtwitter crashing for no apparent reason! Ubuntu 9.10 64 bit platform... TTYtter http://www.floodgap.com/software/ttytter/ command line awesomeness
Re: twitter clients?
On Fri, Mar 5, 2010 at 11:17 AM, Steve Holdoway st...@greengecko.co.nz wrote: What do people recommend? I'm sick of gtwitter crashing for no apparent reason! Ubuntu 9.10 64 bit platform... What, besides just not twittering? Or using a open platform like identi.ca? Personally I just hook it up to Pidgin, because I have that running already, and can't see the point of having multiple similar applications running. It isn't eprfect, but it's good enough. I see lots of people using TweetDeck, too. -jim
Re: twitter clients?
Steve Holdoway wrote, On 05/03/10 11:17: What do people recommend? I'm sick of gtwitter crashing for no apparent reason! Ubuntu 9.10 64 bit platform... nothing. Twitter is so insanely pointless. -- Craig Falconer
Re: twitter clients?
On Fri, 2010-03-05 at 11:35 +1300, Craig Falconer wrote: Steve Holdoway wrote, On 05/03/10 11:17: What do people recommend? I'm sick of gtwitter crashing for no apparent reason! Ubuntu 9.10 64 bit platform... nothing. Twitter is so insanely pointless. I agree, but I've got some strange customers who are asking for it... -- Steve Holdoway st...@greengecko.co.nz http://www.greengecko.co.nz MSN: st...@greengecko.co.nz GPG Fingerprint = B337 828D 03E1 4F11 CB90 853C C8AB AF04 EF68 52E0 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: twitter clients?
On Fri, 2010-03-05 at 11:35 +1300, Jim Cheetham wrote: On Fri, Mar 5, 2010 at 11:17 AM, Steve Holdoway st...@greengecko.co.nz wrote: What do people recommend? I'm sick of gtwitter crashing for no apparent reason! Ubuntu 9.10 64 bit platform... What, besides just not twittering? Or using a open platform like identi.ca? Personally I just hook it up to Pidgin, because I have that running already, and can't see the point of having multiple similar applications running. It isn't eprfect, but it's good enough. I see lots of people using TweetDeck, too. -jim I've already got skype ( hey, the customer is always right! ) plugged in to pidgin, didn't know I could go the same route with twitter. Loaded up apt, and away it went. Thanks for the pointer. Steve -- Steve Holdoway st...@greengecko.co.nz http://www.greengecko.co.nz MSN: st...@greengecko.co.nz GPG Fingerprint = B337 828D 03E1 4F11 CB90 853C C8AB AF04 EF68 52E0 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: cable testing?
On Fri, Mar 5, 2010 at 10:09 AM, Nick Rout nick.r...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 8:53 PM, Maurice Butler likema...@quicksilver.net.nz wrote: Most of the electrical wholesalers stock satelite, audio, network gear now days Maurice Even Bunnings stock the stuff!! DSE becomes the default because they are open in the weekends! Success on the first cable at last [1]. I am not sure which of the following changes produced a result: 1. decent crimper; 2. proper twirly thing to remove the outer insulation; 3. plugs definitely intended for single core cable; 4. confidence of having a continuity tester Now for the upstairs connection, which cable had an even harder time on the run! Thanks for all the advice and offers of tools, one of which i took up but won't mention names as he offered offlist [1] I used the continuity tester to establish that all except pin 6 were connected using the last incarnation of dse plugs and crimper. Having done that I was able to snip the ends off and establish with an ohmmeter test that the pair concerned were OK on a short and open test. That meant the termination was the problem. Using the new gear and plugs worked first time.
Re: cable testing?
Nick Rout wrote, On 05/03/10 13:28: Now for the upstairs connection, which cable had an even harder time on the run! Cable is actually pretty tough stuff. I once helped someone lower a hefty old wooden desk out a second-story balony and all we had was a 20 metre length of coax cable with RCA connectors. A couple months later I needed a spare cable to run composite video to a projector - grabbed this and it worked perfectly. -- Craig Falconer
Re: cable testing?
On Fri, Mar 5, 2010 at 1:37 PM, Craig Falconer cfalco...@totalteam.co.nz wrote: Nick Rout wrote, On 05/03/10 13:28: Now for the upstairs connection, which cable had an even harder time on the run! Cable is actually pretty tough stuff. I once helped someone lower a hefty old wooden desk out a second-story balony and all we had was a 20 metre length of coax cable with RCA connectors. A couple months later I needed a spare cable to run composite video to a projector - grabbed this and it worked perfectly. excellent! of course I don't suppose you have a video of that on youtube do you?
Re: twitter clients?
On Fri, Mar 5, 2010 at 11:35 AM, Craig Falconer cfalco...@totalteam.co.nz wrote: Steve Holdoway wrote, On 05/03/10 11:17: What do people recommend? I'm sick of gtwitter crashing for no apparent reason! Ubuntu 9.10 64 bit platform... nothing. Twitter is so insanely pointless. and I thought I was the only one!
Re: cable testing?
On Fri, Mar 5, 2010 at 10:09 AM, Nick Rout nick.r...@gmail.com wrote: Success on the first cable at last [1]. I am not sure which of the following changes produced a result: I think that you should still send someone under the house for a while - just to get them out of you way. Rob
Re: cable testing?
Cable is actually pretty tough stuff. I once helped someone lower a hefty old wooden desk out a second-story balony and all we had was a 20 metre length of coax cable with RCA connectors. Did you use NetBui?
Re: cable testing?
Robert Fisher wrote, On 05/03/10 14:18: Cable is actually pretty tough stuff. I once helped someone lower a hefty old wooden desk out a second-story balony and all we had was a 20 metre length of coax cable with RCA connectors. Did you use NetBui? No it was audio cable not data cable. -- Craig Falconer
Re: twitter clients?
What do people recommend? I'm sick of gtwitter crashing for no apparent reason! Ubuntu 9.10 64 bit platform... nothing. Twitter is so insanely pointless. and I thought I was the only one! What's this twitter thing everyone keeps talking about? Yuri
Re: twitter clients?
On 5 March 2010 16:58, yuri yur...@gmail.com wrote:
What do people recommend? I'm sick of gtwitter crashing for no apparent
reason! Ubuntu 9.10 64 bit platform...
nothing.
Twitter is so insanely pointless.
and I thought I was the only one!
What's this twitter thing everyone keeps talking about
Share and discover what’s happening right now, anywhere in the world.Twitter
is a free service that lets you keep in touch with people through the
exchange of quick, frequent answers to one simple question: What's
happening? http://twitter.com
It's intended for {t,w}eeny-boppers of all ages.
No need for you to fuss yourself over it.
--
Sincerely etc.
Christopher Sawtell
