Re: Spam assassin and mailman

2009-12-17 Thread Jim Tittsler
On 2009-12-18 09:18, Nick Rout wrote:
> So why doesn't mailman simply reject it as from a non-subscriber
> instead of bothering me that it is possible spam? I don't care if it
> is spam or not, if its from a non-subscriber, it should just be
> bounced or dumped without bothering me.

You can change the order of the message pipeline stages (even on a per
list basis) if you like.  It defaults this way because each stage of
the pipeline is independent, and when SpamDetect runs it doesn't know
how you have set generic_nonmember_action.  If you do have it set to
'Discard' then you could try moving SpamDetect after Moderate stage.


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Re: Spam assassin and mailman

2009-12-17 Thread Jim Cheetham
On Fri, Dec 18, 2009 at 11:57 AM, Tom Smith  wrote:
> In the process of learning, I am going to ask the ignorant question. If
> mail is rejected from non-subscribers, how will subscription requests be
> handled by mailman?

Messages that are intended to go to "everyone on the list" are send to
"listn...@..."; Messages that are for sign-up go to
"listname-subscr...@...".

Many people on a list who want to get off just post "UNSUBSCRIBE" to
the general list; mailman will optionally try to find these mistakes
and autofix them ... (i.e. don't send them on to the list subscribers,
and unsub the user as per their intended request).

-jim


Re: Spam assassin and mailman

2009-12-17 Thread Tom Smith


On Fri, 2009-12-18 at 09:40 +1300, steve wrote:
> On Fri, 2009-12-18 at 09:18 +1300, Nick Rout wrote:
> > I run a couple of mailing lists on mailman, in fact someone else owns
> > the iron and adminsters the machine, I am just the admin/moderator of
> > the mailing lists. The lists can only be posted to by subscribers.
> > 
> > Too often I get a message that spamassassin has identified possible
> > spam. I look at the supposed spam message and it isn't from a
> > subscriber address.
> > 
> > So why doesn't mailman simply reject it as from a non-subscriber
> > instead of bothering me that it is possible spam? I don't care if it
> > is spam or not, if its from a non-subscriber, it should just be
> > bounced or dumped without bothering me.
> > 
> > Puzzled of ChCh.
> Not being an expert on mailman, could it be the difference between the
> sender ( as identified by the mail from: smtp handshaking ) and the
> perceived sender ( the from: header in the mail body )??
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Steve

In the process of learning, I am going to ask the ignorant question. If
mail is rejected from non-subscribers, how will subscription requests be
handled by mailman?

Take Care

Tom



Re: Spam assassin and mailman

2009-12-17 Thread steve
On Fri, 2009-12-18 at 09:18 +1300, Nick Rout wrote:
> I run a couple of mailing lists on mailman, in fact someone else owns
> the iron and adminsters the machine, I am just the admin/moderator of
> the mailing lists. The lists can only be posted to by subscribers.
> 
> Too often I get a message that spamassassin has identified possible
> spam. I look at the supposed spam message and it isn't from a
> subscriber address.
> 
> So why doesn't mailman simply reject it as from a non-subscriber
> instead of bothering me that it is possible spam? I don't care if it
> is spam or not, if its from a non-subscriber, it should just be
> bounced or dumped without bothering me.
> 
> Puzzled of ChCh.
Not being an expert on mailman, could it be the difference between the
sender ( as identified by the mail from: smtp handshaking ) and the
perceived sender ( the from: header in the mail body )??

Cheers,

Steve
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Spam assassin and mailman

2009-12-17 Thread Nick Rout
I run a couple of mailing lists on mailman, in fact someone else owns
the iron and adminsters the machine, I am just the admin/moderator of
the mailing lists. The lists can only be posted to by subscribers.

Too often I get a message that spamassassin has identified possible
spam. I look at the supposed spam message and it isn't from a
subscriber address.

So why doesn't mailman simply reject it as from a non-subscriber
instead of bothering me that it is possible spam? I don't care if it
is spam or not, if its from a non-subscriber, it should just be
bounced or dumped without bothering me.

Puzzled of ChCh.