Re: And now...., from our unlimited /hutzpah/ department

2002-05-02 Thread Roger Oberholtzer

On Tue, 30 Apr 2002 20:38:55 -0400
Kurt Wall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Scribbling feverishly on April 30, Michael Scottaline managed to emit:
  Look at what Microsoft now has the effrontery to suggest:
  
  
  http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/4/25085.html
 
 Fer cryin' out loud! I want a large quantity of whatever substance
 Microsoft's lawyers are drinking/smoking/snorting/taking. No, wait,
 never mind. I have enough trouble with arrogance and self-centeredness
 as it is.

That substance is called money. I want it to...


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Re: And now...., from our unlimited /hutzpah/ department

2002-05-02 Thread Roger Oberholtzer

On Wed, 1 May 2002 13:08:01 -0700
Ted Ozolins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On May 1, 2002 08:58 am, Condon Thomas A KPWA wrote:
 
 
  Well, if you'll believe that M$ software is the best in the world and
  worth that horrendous price, you'll believe anything they tell you.  So
  it only makes sense to keep spouting whatever they want these folks to
  believe.
 
  Oh, and they stole the tablets in the first place!
 
 I'll bet they're even trying to convert the text so that it can only be
 read with Office XP:)

By those with a .NET Passport.


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Re: SpamAssassin

2002-05-02 Thread m.w.chang

RBL? ok. now I got a keyword to continue the search.. thanks.

RBL = Rxxx blacklist?

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 yes. check your man-pages that come w/ SA. you can turn the RBL checks off

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Re: by chance, does anyone know...

2002-05-02 Thread m.w.chang

yes. I hadn't used it since Openlinxu 1.3 despite all the articles I 
found via search engines about demand dial ppp

Bruce Marshall wrote:
 On Wednesday 01 May 2002 21:17 pm, Bill Day wrote:
 Gee, the demand dialing stuff has been in pppd for several years.  And I don't 
 think pppd ever needed diald   but if you wanted demand dialing than you 
 had to use diald.
 
 The demand dialing of pppd  (or the persistent dialing - keep the line up) 
 work just fine.
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Re: And now...., from our unlimited /hutzpah/ department

2002-05-02 Thread m.w.chang

that's not a true divorse. if your first one found another husband, 
would you still need to pay her?

Kurt Wall wrote:
asounds like an evil cult if not marriage... till death we part.. :)
Hmmm, I'm not sure if death isn't preferable to the divorce process???
 Possibly. I wouldn't care to get divorced again. I'm still paying for
 the first one...


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Error when Printing Adobe docs....

2002-05-02 Thread James McDonald

Hi I get the error below when attempting to print... pdf documents... if I 
print to my generic printer in RH7.2 it prints part of this message on the 
piece of paper. If I print to a file this is the output that Ghostview 
gives when I try and open the ps file.

I was wondering if anyone can let me know where to start looking... My first 
step is an upgrade to ghostview... any suggestions gratefully received.

James

start error
Error: /undefined in ec
Operand stack:
   --nostringval--
Execution stack:
   %interp_exit   .runexec2   --nostringval--   --nostringval--   
--nostringval--   2   %stopped_push   --nostringval--   --nostringval--   
--nostringval--   false   1   %stopped_push   1   3   %oparray_pop   1   3   
%oparray_pop   .runexec2   --nostringval--   --nostringval--   
--nostringval--   2   %stopped_push   --nostringval--   --nostringval--   
--nostringval--
Dictionary stack:
   --dict:1026/1476(ro)(G)--   --dict:5/20(G)--   --dict:103/200(L)--   
--dict:70/86(L)--   --dict:118/160(ro)(L)--
Current allocation mode is local
Last OS error: 2
GNU Ghostscript 6.51: Unrecoverable error, exit code 1
/end error
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Re: distribution of the day

2002-05-02 Thread m.w.chang

there is also SOT Office.

Chris Kassopulo wrote:
 Best Linux is back as SOT Linux
 
 http://www.sot.com/en/

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Re: perl execution failed

2002-05-02 Thread m.w.chang

post the error.

btw, it's not difficult to set things up via bash script only, esp after 
you read Mr. David Bandel's article in http://www.linuxjournal.com. 
Check out Taming Wild netFilter in sept, 2001.

J N wrote:
 Im running into the same problem.  Im trying to use turtlefirewall to 
 admin iptables but doesnt seem to work for me.  Unfortunately, I dont 
 know perl.  If you get a response, would you be so kind as to forward a 
 copy to me.  Thanks anyways.


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Re: OT: virus question

2002-05-02 Thread Bob Raymond

Ken Moffat wrote:

On Wed, 01 May 2002 20:34:48 -0700
Net Llama! [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  

Well the simple fix is to not use the virus transmission agent -
Outlook.

The more intelligent fix is to not use an OS that is mentally stunted
- M$ Windoze.



I try and I try, but boneheadedness is wide spread. 

Does any one know if the Earthlink mail client is outlook in disquise?
___
  

Don't know about the earthlink client, but you could always put Cygwin on
the Windows box and run mutt, as Earthlink, being a real ISP, allows for
separate mail clients.  Funny, I've never used one of the Earthlink clients,
and I've got one of those Eartlink swallow-ups for an ISP.  I haven't tried
Mutt yet, as Mozilla is doing a pretty good job (idiot printer still doesn't
like Linux enough to work).  Pine recently came out for Cygwin, so if noone
likes mutt, you have that option.  I haven't had one virus yet since 
October,
using a mix of Opera Mail, Mahogany, Sylpheed, and now Mozilla, and AFAIK,
Norton hasn't blocked any mail. (and this is with Cement XP Pro).  I guess
I'm lucky.




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Re: SpamAssassin

2002-05-02 Thread M.W.Chang

from this website:

http://qmail-scanner.sourceforge.net/FAQ.php

it recommended this /etc/mail/spamassassin/loocal.cf. any comment from
experts here? I am going to follow...

skip_rbl_checks 1
required_hits 5
auto_report_threshold 30
rewrite_subject 0
report_header 1
use_terse_report 1
defang_mime 0
skip_rbl_checks 1
### why 2 skip_rbl_checks??
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OpenOffice 1.0

2002-05-02 Thread James McDonald

Hi All,

For those interested OpenOffice 1.0 is out http://openoffice.org

James
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Re: SpamAssassin

2002-05-02 Thread Net Llama!

Realtime Black List

On Thu, 2 May 2002, m.w.chang wrote:

 RBL? ok. now I got a keyword to continue the search.. thanks.

 RBL = Rxxx blacklist?

 Douglas J Hunley wrote:
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 I found that spam-assassin will look up some remote hosts to determine
 whether a message is from spammers. Could that be avoided?
  yes. check your man-pages that come w/ SA. you can turn the RBL checks off



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Re: eMusic

2002-05-02 Thread Net Llama!

I don't even know what this thing is, but you could look at the contents
of the tarball to figure it out.

On Thu, 2 May 2002, Lee wrote:

 Downloaded the DR08.0 eMusic player tarball. Untarred it and installed
 it. It's there, but one problem - don't know what command orders it up.
 Checked the README files no help there. Anyone know what command
 accesses DR08.0 eMusic player from the command line?

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Re: OT: virus question

2002-05-02 Thread Lee

Sounds like a a left over from the Sircam virus that was running about
six months ago or maybe a new version of it. Believe M$ has a fix for it
on one of their sites. Course the real fix is to run Linux.




Ken Moffat wrote:
 
 Sorry to ask, but there is lots of knowledge on this list.
 I received an email (several, actually) from a friend, and need to help
 her. This mail is forwarding files/docs off her computer to all email
 addresses on here computer, apparently even obsolete, unused, deleted
 addresses. I just received her resume as an attachment to an email
 addressed to me from her cousin. Can someone tell me what this might be,
 or where to look?
 
 Many thanks.
 
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Re: And now...., from our unlimited /hutzpah/ department

2002-05-02 Thread Matthew Carpenter

Check out this one:

Tales Of The UneXPected

A Windows XP installation brings welcome stability, but legacy
software can cause interoperability headaches and require unexpected
upgrades for both hardware and software.

http://computerworld.com/nlt/1%2C3590%2CNAV47_STO70559_NLTOS%2C00.html


And this one:

Desktop Linux At Last?

Columnist Nicholas Petreley says that the open-source desktop is on
the way -- this time for real.

http://computerworld.com/nlt/1%2C3590%2CNAV47_STO70562_NLTOS%2C00.html


On Thu, 2 May 2002 09:00:22 +0200
Roger Oberholtzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Wed, 1 May 2002 13:08:01 -0700
 Ted Ozolins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  On May 1, 2002 08:58 am, Condon Thomas A KPWA wrote:
  
  
   Well, if you'll believe that M$ software is the best in the world
   and worth that horrendous price, you'll believe anything they tell
   you.  So it only makes sense to keep spouting whatever they want
   these folks to believe.
  
   Oh, and they stole the tablets in the first place!
  
  I'll bet they're even trying to convert the text so that it can only
  be read with Office XP:)
 
 By those with a .NET Passport.
 
 
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Nice move Caldera...

2002-05-02 Thread Matthew Carpenter

Caldera Announces Support For Other Linux Versions

Linux users will now have more choices for service and support as
Caldera announces broad support for other brands of Linux, including
distributions from Red Hat, SuSE and MandrakeSoft.

http://computerworld.com/nlt/1%2C3590%2CNAV47_STO70635_NLTOS%2C00.html
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Re: OT free mags

2002-05-02 Thread Ronnie Gauthier

Lets look at this from a different angle. If I advertise in a magazine to 
sell a product or service I dont really care,(with some exceptions), who buys 
me. The magazines are free because they reach a VERY large audiance, the ads 
pay for the magazine. Advertisers go for the best bang for the buck. The 
publishers needs readers. Many who work are consultants of some type, free 
lancers who have realtime jobs and do the rest on the side. Does the 
publisher care? Does the advertiser care? Call yourself a consultant, after 
all, don't you help people, answer their questions, make recomendations? 
Aren't those people expecting the very best answer possible from you? You owe 
it to those who you consult for to give them the best possible solution to 
their problem. The advertiser/vendor wants it to be their product/service. It 
is a sybiotic relationship. Do not be afraid to abuse it, that is how it 
thrives.

On Thursday 02 May 2002 12:30, M.W.Chang wrote:
 I wish I knew how to lie... I could have been a lot richer back then...
 but now that everything just crumble down... maybe I don't need to tell
 a lie at all.

 Ronnie Gauthier wrote:
  So you fill out a form. Do you always tell the truth?
  Are the form police looking over your shoulder?
 
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Cannot mount CD drives with a CD-Writer present

2002-05-02 Thread Sebastian Thaci
Hello!Does anybodyhave any idea why I cannot mount any of my CD drives under Red Hat Linux 7.2?
One of them is a TEAC writer. Of course, it comes under the SCSI adaptor emulation treatment. On the same IDE I have another CD-ROM drive.
I can write CDs, but I cannot mount any of the drives!
I discovered that the "mount" command doesn't find any of the devices: /dev/cdrom, /dev/cdrom1, /dev/scd0, etc.
I just installed the system, so I didn't tamper with the initial settings.
Thanks a lot for your time!
SebastianLèche-vitrine ou lèche-écran ? Yahoo! Magasinage.

Re: Cannot mount CD drives with a CD-Writer present

2002-05-02 Thread Net Llama!

First, please fix your wordwrap to something in the vacinity of 72
chars/line

Next, you should be mounting your CDROM drive as the same device as you
burn to it.  What does dmesg recognize the drive as?

BTW, /dev/cdrom* is not a real device, its symlink.

On Thu, 2 May 2002, [iso-8859-1] Sebastian Thaci wrote:

 Hello!
 Does anybody have any idea why I cannot mount any of my CD drives under Red Hat 
Linux 7.2?

 One of them is a TEAC writer. Of course, it comes under the SCSI adaptor emulation 
treatment. On the same IDE I have another CD-ROM drive.

 I can write CDs, but I cannot mount any of the drives!

 I discovered that the mount command doesn't find any of the devices: /dev/cdrom, 
/dev/cdrom1, /dev/scd0, etc.

 I just installed the system, so I didn't tamper with the initial settings.

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RE: Cannot mount CD drives with a CD-Writer present

2002-05-02 Thread Condon Thomas A KPWA


Doug,

I didn't think this list would let HTML email through.  Is this a change?


In Harmony's Way, and In A Chord,

Tom  :-})

Thomas A. Condon
Barbershop Bass Singer
Registered Linux User #154358 

-Original Message-
From: Sebastian Thaci [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]

arrived in HTML on my machine.

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Re: Cannot mount CD drives with a CD-Writer present

2002-05-02 Thread Andrew Mathews

Sebastian Thaci wrote:
 
 Hello!
 Does anybody have any idea why I cannot mount any of my CD drives
 under Red Hat Linux 7.2?
 
 One of them is a TEAC writer. Of course, it comes under the SCSI
 adaptor emulation treatment. On the same IDE I have another CD-ROM
 drive.
 
 I can write CDs, but I cannot mount any of the drives!
 
 I discovered that the mount command doesn't find any of the devices:
 /dev/cdrom, /dev/cdrom1, /dev/scd0, etc.
 
 I just installed the system, so I didn't tamper with the initial
 settings.
 
 Thanks a lot for your time!
 
 Sebastian
 
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Your mountpoints are normally created in /mnt which are linked to the
devices such as hdc, hdd, etc. Please post the contents of /etc/fstab.
It should show the devices and mountpoints.
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RH7.2 CD-Roms.

2002-05-02 Thread Lee

Have same problem as Sebastian. Installed RH7.2 sucessfully. Two CD-ROMs
icons present on the desktop, but won't mount. Tried dmesg. Found CD-ROM
and CDRW by manufacture type, but nothing else; except for entry: hdb
driver not present (1st CD-ROM, primary slave) hdd driver not present
(Iomega CDRW, secondary slave.) Where do I find the drivers for these?

Lee
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Re: RH7.2 CD-Roms.

2002-05-02 Thread Net Llama!

On Thu, 2 May 2002, Lee wrote:
 Have same problem as Sebastian. Installed RH7.2 sucessfully. Two CD-ROMs
 icons present on the desktop, but won't mount. Tried dmesg. Found CD-ROM
 and CDRW by manufacture type, but nothing else; except for entry: hdb
 driver not present (1st CD-ROM, primary slave) hdd driver not present
 (Iomega CDRW, secondary slave.) Where do I find the drivers for these?

what's a hdb and an hdd driver??  IDE supported is traditionally compiled
into the kernel.  I've never had any of these problems on the box where i
have RH-7.2 installed.  Then again, when i want to mount a device, i do it
from the command line as god intended.

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Re: Cannot mount CD drives with a CD-Writer present

2002-05-02 Thread Douglas J Hunley

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Netscape 6.x/Mozilla Flash bug causes crash

2002-05-02 Thread Tim Wunder

http://www.ltsp.org/index.php

Didn't someone on list complain about crashes when using 
Netscape/Mozilla from a remote session?

Tim

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Re: RH7.2 CD-Roms.

2002-05-02 Thread Lee

Net Llama! wrote:
 
 On Thu, 2 May 2002, Lee wrote:
  Have same problem as Sebastian. Installed RH7.2 sucessfully. Two CD-ROMs
  icons present on the desktop, but won't mount. Tried dmesg. Found CD-ROM
  and CDRW by manufacture type, but nothing else; except for entry: hdb
  driver not present (1st CD-ROM, primary slave) hdd driver not present
  (Iomega CDRW, secondary slave.) Where do I find the drivers for these?
 
 what's a hdb and an hdd driver??  IDE supported is traditionally compiled
 into the kernel.  I've never had any of these problems on the box where i
 have RH-7.2 installed.  Then again, when i want to mount a device, i do it
 from the command line as god intended.

Perchance you would like to enlighten us heathens as to the proper
command to mount the CDROM and CDRW. I've tried mount -t fstab
/dev/cdrom /mnt/cdrom and got fstab not supported. Mount -t vfat
/dev/cdrom /mnt/dev get /dev not a block device. Try mount auto
/dev/cdrom /mnt/cdrom get a shopping list of options. Pick one of them
mount -t auto /dev/cdrom /mnt/cdrom and i get the not valid block
device. If I go to free disk under the system menu the cdroms are listed
as /dev/cdrom and /dev/cdrom1 with a mount point of /mnt/cdrom and a
driver of iso9660. Tried this at the command line got the same not valid
block device error. If God intended us to use the command line he is
being very obscure about it. Particularly, in view of the fact that my
Mandrake 8.0 system auto mounts these and my SuSe 7.2 system requires
only a right click on the icon. I begin to see why IBM is pulling away
from RH. In any network or IP system the number of heretics who prefer
either auto mount or even right click mounts are bound to outnumber the
number of pure believers who have been able to decipher God's hidden
word in their command window. So if it is not to much for a heretic to
ask, what command should I use to mount the cdrom and cdrw (cdrom1) in
the terminal window?
 
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Re: Netscape 6.x/Mozilla Flash bug causes crash

2002-05-02 Thread Joel Hammer

Yes. I did.
I registered with the web site. Thanks. I hope this helps.
I guess I'll have to look at how to disable macromedia. All that does is run
pop up ads.
I think I posted a while back that not all my servers did this. It must be
because macromedia flash is not installed on them. I had no problem using
konqueror in a remote session, for example.
Joel
On Thu, May 02, 2002 at 04:11:38PM -0400, Tim Wunder wrote:
 http://www.ltsp.org/index.php
 
 Didn't someone on list complain about crashes when using 
 Netscape/Mozilla from a remote session?
 
 Tim
 
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Re: RH7.2 CD-Roms.

2002-05-02 Thread Andrew Mathews

Lee wrote:
snip
 Perchance you would like to enlighten us heathens as to the proper
 command to mount the CDROM and CDRW. I've tried mount -t fstab
 /dev/cdrom /mnt/cdrom and got fstab not supported. 

The syntax is: mount -t filesystemtype /dev/hd? /mnt/mountpoint. You
can't use fstab as a filesystem type. It's a configuration file.
Substitute sd for hd if you're using SCSI drives.

Mount -t vfat /dev/cdrom /mnt/dev get /dev not a block device. 

Is there really an entry in your /mnt directory called dev? Or is it
actually /mnt/cdrom?

Try mount auto /dev/cdrom /mnt/cdrom get a shopping list of options. Pick one of them
 mount -t auto /dev/cdrom /mnt/cdrom and i get the not valid block
 device. If I go to free disk under the system menu the cdroms are listed
 as /dev/cdrom and /dev/cdrom1 with a mount point of /mnt/cdrom and a
 driver of iso9660.

You're confusing a filesystem type and a driver (better known as a
module in linux)
iso9660, vfat, ext2, xfs, etc. are filesystem types. You see these when
you issue the mount command by itself.
i82365,soundcore, 3c59x, are modules (drivers). You see these when you
issue the lsmod command by itself.
  
What is the output of dmesg | grep hd and your /etc/fstab?
From mine:
[root@charliebrown /root]# dmesg | grep hd
ide0: BM-DMA at 0x0860-0x0867, BIOS settings: hda:DMA, hdb:pio
ide1: BM-DMA at 0x0868-0x086f, BIOS settings: hdc:pio, hdd:pio
hda: IBM-DCXA-21, ATA DISK drive
hdc: TOSHIBA DVD-ROM SD-C2202, ATAPI CDROM drive
hda: IBM-DCXA-21, 9590MB w/420kB Cache, CHS=1222/255/63, UDMA
hdc: ATAPI 24X DVD-ROM drive, 128kB Cache
 hda: hda1 hda2 hda3  hda5 hda6 hda7 hda8 hda9 

As you can see, hdc is my cdrom drive. So it would be mount -t iso9660
/dev/hdc /mnt/cdrom
The relevant entry in /etc/fstab shows:
/dev/cdrom /mnt/cdrom iso9660 ro,user,noauto,exec 0 0
So what's /dev/cdrom linked to?
[root@charliebrown /root]# ls -l /dev/cdrom
lrwxrwxrwx   1 root root8 Mar 30  2000 /dev/cdrom -
/dev/hdc
So /dev/cdrom points to /dev/hdc, and /etc/fstab shows /dev/cdrom's
mountpoint is /mnt/cdrom. So the cd is mountable as /mnt/cdrom.
snip

It should really be as simple as making sure there's a readable cd in
the drive and doing a mount /mnt/cdrom
Or even mount -t iso9660 /dev/hd? /mnt/cdrom though iso9660 is the
default for cdroms. From the mount manpage:

The type iso9660 is the default.  If no -t option is given, or if the
auto type is specified, the  superblock  is  probed  for  the 
filesystem  type.

HTH-
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CheckPoint Firewall.

2002-05-02 Thread Jerry McBride


Does anyone have an opinion on CheckPoint Software's CHECKPOINT FIREWALL
on linux?

I'm interested in your opinions and perhaps better suggestions than
checkpoint's offering.

Thank you, in advance.

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Re: RH7.2 CD-Roms.

2002-05-02 Thread Net Llama!

On Thu, 2 May 2002, Lee wrote:
 Net Llama! wrote:
 
  On Thu, 2 May 2002, Lee wrote:
   Have same problem as Sebastian. Installed RH7.2 sucessfully. Two CD-ROMs
   icons present on the desktop, but won't mount. Tried dmesg. Found CD-ROM
   and CDRW by manufacture type, but nothing else; except for entry: hdb
   driver not present (1st CD-ROM, primary slave) hdd driver not present
   (Iomega CDRW, secondary slave.) Where do I find the drivers for these?
 
  what's a hdb and an hdd driver??  IDE supported is traditionally compiled
  into the kernel.  I've never had any of these problems on the box where i
  have RH-7.2 installed.  Then again, when i want to mount a device, i do it
  from the command line as god intended.

 Perchance you would like to enlighten us heathens as to the proper

This has nothing to do with religion.  It does have alot to do with
understanding how to use the mount command and/or reading the mount man
page.

 command to mount the CDROM and CDRW. I've tried mount -t fstab

-t specifies a filesystem type.  fstab is a file, not a filesystem type.

 /dev/cdrom /mnt/cdrom and got fstab not supported. Mount -t vfat

/dev/cdrom is not a device on any linux distro that i've ever seen.  its a
symlink on alot of redhat derived distros, and is incredibly misleading.

CDs aren't normally formatted with the vfat filesystem.  They
traditionally have the iso9660 filesystem.

 /dev/cdrom /mnt/dev get /dev not a block device. Try mount auto

/mnt/dev isn't a traditional mount point, unless you created it as such.

 /dev/cdrom /mnt/cdrom get a shopping list of options. Pick one of them
 mount -t auto /dev/cdrom /mnt/cdrom and i get the not valid block

Most likely because /dev/cdrom isn't a valid block device in linux.  Its a
symlink.

 device. If I go to free disk under the system menu the cdroms are listed

I don't know what free disk is under whatever system menu you're using.

 as /dev/cdrom and /dev/cdrom1 with a mount point of /mnt/cdrom and a
 driver of iso9660. Tried this at the command line got the same not valid
 block device error. If God intended us to use the command line he is
 being very obscure about it. Particularly, in view of the fact that my

I don't find typing man mount to be an exercise in obscurity.

 Mandrake 8.0 system auto mounts these and my SuSe 7.2 system requires

The automounter (IMO) is one of the most sh!tty hacks in all of Linux.
Its original purpose was with NFS, not local devices, and it further masks
the very simple process of mounting filesystems.

 only a right click on the icon. I begin to see why IBM is pulling away
 from RH. In any network or IP system the number of heretics who prefer
 either auto mount or even right click mounts are bound to outnumber the
 number of pure believers who have been able to decipher God's hidden

there is absolutely nothing hidden in the use of man pages.  if you're
bound to pretty little pictures, you could even use xman instead of the
command line.

 word in their command window. So if it is not to much for a heretic to
 ask, what command should I use to mount the cdrom and cdrw (cdrom1) in
 the terminal window?

I couldn't tell you because you haven't told me anything about your setup.
More often than not you can find the answer in /etc/fstab.  It should
appear in dmesg as well.  If you tell me something about your hardware,
and where it is plugged into your mobo, i might be able to hazard a guess.

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Re: RH7.2 CD-Roms.

2002-05-02 Thread Mike McKinlay

On Thursday 02 May 2002 14:56, Net Llama! wrote:
 On Thu, 2 May 2002, Lee wrote:
  Net Llama! wrote:
   On Thu, 2 May 2002, Lee wrote:
Have same problem as Sebastian. Installed RH7.2 successfully. Two
CD-ROMs icons present on the desktop, but won't mount. Tried dmesg.
Found CD-ROM and CDRW by manufacture type, but nothing else; except
for entry: hdb driver not present (1st CD-ROM, primary slave) hdd
driver not present (Iomega CDRW, secondary slave.) Where do I find
the drivers for these?
Folks:
  Had a simular problem with SuSE 7.3, 8.0 . I had to edit fstab  to point to 
/dev/hdc and /dev/hdd on my machine instead of pointing them to cdrom and 
cdwriter also had to change auto to 'iso9660' in the fstab file.
  
Mike 

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Re: Netscape 6.x/Mozilla Flash bug causes crash

2002-05-02 Thread Kurt Wall

Scribbling feverishly on May 02, Tim Wunder managed to emit:
 http://www.ltsp.org/index.php
 
 Didn't someone on list complain about crashes when using 
 Netscape/Mozilla from a remote session?

That would be Joel Hammer...

Kurt
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Re: Klez at it again

2002-05-02 Thread Kurt Wall

Scribbling feverishly on May 02, Gerry Doris managed to emit:

[...]

 David, are you sure that it came from these lists?  I'm subscribed to them 
 too and I don't remember seeing any messages with the subject 
 Troubleshooting.  

Klez messages have random headers. I'm seeing them also. 

Kurt
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Re: Klez at it again

2002-05-02 Thread David A. Bandel

On Thu, 2 May 2002 20:15:15 -0400 (EDT)
begin  Gerry Doris [EMAIL PROTECTED] spewed forth:

 On Thu, 2 May 2002, David A. Bandel wrote:
 
  Folks,
  
  Please review the mail headers, someone on one of these lists has
  Klez. This is not really bounce message: 1.  No Windoze here (much
  less Outhouse) 2.  I don't think I know this e-mail address
  
  The Return-Path has most certainly been altered.  But we can say that
  it originated on comcast.net:
 
 snip
  
  Subject: Undeliverable mail--Troubleshooting
  
 
 David, are you sure that it came from these lists?  I'm subscribed to
 them too and I don't remember seeing any messages with the subject 
 Troubleshooting.  

The message came direct to me, but since I don't recognize the
icomcast.net address in the header, I suspect someone either currently or
previously subscribed to a list I was on has the virus.  Could be anyone,
but I thought I'd start with the two lists I'm most active on.

Klez headers are always altered (Return-Path:, Subject:, From:), but Klez
can't alter what the mail servers put on the messages.  So it definitely
came from someone using comcast.net. That's about all we can say for the
moment (and be correct).

Ciao,

David A. Bandel
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Re: distribution of the day

2002-05-02 Thread Ken Moffat




 sot

Is this a recommendation? 
I have no experience with Best Linux, 
and I see the office suite is based on OpenOffice, 
which just released v.1.0.

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Re: Klez at it again

2002-05-02 Thread Bill Day

Currently whilst I setup my new linuxbox, I am using a winbox(via the
newsgroup) rather than email, how ever, those using AVG must upgrade to
version 351 and update their viri sigs as well.

I am also receiving klez'd emails from major places, i.e. driverguide.com,
and have yet to receive any more klezd emaisl via linux-sxs.org


Douglas J Hunley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
 -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
 Hash: SHA1

 David A. Bandel spewed electrons into the ether that resembled:
  Folks,
 
  Please review the mail headers, someone on one of these lists has Klez.
  This is not really bounce message: 1.  No Windoze here (much less
  Outhouse) 2.  I don't think I know this e-mail address

 fortunately, any mail passing through linux-sxs.org with klez will be
caught.
 if anyone out there needs help in setting this up, please let me know!
 also, there's no more excuses folks. AVG is a free for personal use,
Windows
 anti-virus package. check www.grisoft.com for details. granted, if you
have
 klez, it attacks the anti-virus but then again, it may not know about
AVG
 ;)
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Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.
Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).
Version: 6.0.351 / Virus Database: 197 - Release Date: 4/19/02


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Klez at it again

2002-05-02 Thread David A. Bandel

Folks,

Please review the mail headers, someone on one of these lists has Klez. 
This is not really bounce message: 1.  No Windoze here (much less
Outhouse) 2.  I don't think I know this e-mail address

The Return-Path has most certainly been altered.  But we can say that it
originated on comcast.net:

Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Received: from mtaout06 (smtp.comcast.net [24.153.64.2])
by ns1.panamanow.com (8.12.1/8.12.1) with ESMTP id g42MgNGf001153
for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Thu, 2 May 2002 18:42:23 -0400
Received: from Yhbqziql (pcp986188pcs.northw01.in.comcast.net
[68.58.49.21]) by mtaout06.icomcast.net
 (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.1 HotFix 0.6 (built Apr 26 2002))
 with SMTP id [EMAIL PROTECTED] for
[EMAIL PROTECTED]; Thu, 02 May 2002 18:37:25 -0400 (EDT)
Date: Thu, 02 May 2002 18:37:17 -0400 (EDT)
Date-warning: Date header was inserted by mtaout06.icomcast.net
From: postmaster [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Undeliverable mail--Troubleshooting
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Message-id: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
MIME-version: 1.0
Content-type: multipart/alternative;
 boundary=Boundary_(ID_wi9KXBf+sfYB8WitpSrZWA)
X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests= version=2.01
Status:   

The following mail can't be sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Troubleshooting
The attachment is the original mail

Attachments included the Klez virus (God, I'm getting tired of getting
them, I've over 60 copies now).

You don't have to fess up, just please reformat and reinstall your system,
then put on all the patches and STOP USING OUTHOUSE!

NOTE:  Klez, when run, first disables antivirus software, deletes
signature files from common AV programs, then installs itself as a
service.  You can't run, you can't hide, all you can do is reformat.

Thanx, and sorry for the interruption.  Now, back to our regularly
scheduled programming, with Perl^H^H^H^HLinux.

Ciao,

David A. Bandel
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Re: Klez at it again

2002-05-02 Thread Gerry Doris

On Thu, 2 May 2002, David A. Bandel wrote:

 Folks,
 
 Please review the mail headers, someone on one of these lists has Klez. 
 This is not really bounce message: 1.  No Windoze here (much less
 Outhouse) 2.  I don't think I know this e-mail address
 
 The Return-Path has most certainly been altered.  But we can say that it
 originated on comcast.net:

snip
 
 Subject: Undeliverable mail--Troubleshooting
 

David, are you sure that it came from these lists?  I'm subscribed to them 
too and I don't remember seeing any messages with the subject 
Troubleshooting.  

I'm really curious since I may have deleted it without reading it as I get
so many messages that I usually scan the subjects and only read the
interesting topics.  If that's the case then mailscanner that is supposed 
to be checking for virii using F-Prot missed it.

On the other hand mailscanner definitely didn't find a message with Klez 
in it either???

S, either the message didn't come in on these lists or mailscanner 
running on my system didn't catch the virus?

Gerry
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Re: upgrading glibc problem

2002-05-02 Thread Kurt Wall

Scribbling feverishly on May 03, Terry Chan managed to emit:
 Hi,
 
 I want to ask how to upgrade glibc-2.1.3-22 to glibc-2.2.5.
 I followed the following web site,
 http://linux-sxs.org/glibc.html
 but when i used configure .,
 it output:
 checking version of gcc egcs-2.91.66bad
 checking for gnumake.no
 checking version of gmake  3.7.8.1bad
 configure: error:
 *** These critical programs are missing or too old: gcc make
 
 Would anybody help me?

Yes. You need to upgrade your C compiler (gcc) to gcc-2.95.3
and install GNU make (gmake) with a version number greater than 3.7.
What Linux distribution and release are you using?

Kurt
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netdate

2002-05-02 Thread stayler

Hi Guys 

Has anyone else noticed that natdate has disappeared from sourceforge
and freshmeat?  DId I miss some big event?

stayler

On his new domain and account 8-)

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Re: netdate

2002-05-02 Thread stayler

On Thu, 02 May 2002 21:00:17 -0700 (PDT), stayler wrote:

Has anyone else noticed that natdate has disappeared from sourceforge
and freshmeat?  DId I miss some big event?

ok so the typo fairies are all over me tonight...  that should read
netdate.

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OT Spamming question

2002-05-02 Thread Joel Hammer

There was an article in the Wall Street Journal today about the problems
posed to small businesses by spammers. Basically, the spammer hijacks the
mail server or just sends large amount of mail to the business everyday.

Is this a special problem just for silly  people? I have a mail server
going and, except for my early days on linux, have never been exploited in
this way, even thought I am on line 24/7. So, is this just a problem of
people who don't know what they are doing?

Joel
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