Re: United Linux: why MandrakeSoft will not join
Wow! How did Mandrake fit into that listing? That's too much fun. Which distros are MDK-based? Lycoris? Ooops, nope. They're based on COL. uhh... Pizza-Linux? Peanut? Nope, wrong again. Darn. On Tue, 2 Jul 2002 13:32:47 -0700 Tony Alfrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tuesday 02 July 2002 01:02 pm,Net Llama! wrote: http://www.mandrakesoft.com/company/investors/bsa/faq2 I found this remark which I snipped from the article (a Mandrake manifesto IMHO) rather amusing: Before the Linux Standard Base, there was a de facto standardization phenomenon. When studying the Linux distributions, it is clear that most of them are based on Red Hat, Debian and Mandrake, which qualifies them as de facto standards. -- Tony Alfrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'd rather be sailing ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL. ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: Caldera.com
On Tue, 2 Jul 2002 21:59:51 -0500 begin ronnie gauthier [EMAIL PROTECTED] spewed forth: I've been having some periods of DNS nothingness off and on since late last night. No idea what is going on. It's been good since bout 3pm cst so i guess its back to normal(whatever that is?!?). I've seen that problem here. In my case it's always come down to someone being down between me and the authoritative servers. Ciao, David A. Bandel -- Focus on the dream, not the competition. -- Nemesis Racing Team motto ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: beat the rush!
Not me. Any chance to better keep up with what you're writing is generally a Good Thing(tm) in my book. begin dep [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Tue, 2 Jul 2002 12:21:26 -0400) if anyone is or was offended, i apologize. -- -- Matthew Carpenter [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.e-i-s.cc/ Enterprise Information Systems *Network Consulting, Integration Support *Web Development and E-Business ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Linux Standards Base Certification Program
http://zdnet.com.com/2100-1104-941182.html Certification prices run from $400 (about ?280) to $3,000. I love it! This is free software at its best! -- Collins Richey - Denver Area - WWTLRD? gentoo(since 01/01/01) 2.4.18+(ext3) xfce-sylpheed-mozilla ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: Caldera.com
begin ronnie gauthier's quote: | I've been having some periods of DNS nothingness off and on since | late last night. No idea what is going on. It's been good since | bout 3pm cst so i guess its back to normal(whatever that is?!?). http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/55/26002.html -- dep http://www.linuxandmain.com -- outside the box, barely within the envelope, and no animated paperclip anywhere. ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: Caldera.com
On Wed, 3 Jul 2002 09:44, Herb DeLong wrote: I tried to get on caldera.com web page but was told it can't be found. What happened? Nothing as far as i can see i can get there from OZ. -- Keith Antoine (GANDALF) aka 'skippy' 18 Arkana St, The Gap, Queensland 4061 Australia PH:61733002161 Retired Geriatric, Sometime Electronics Engineer, Knowall, Brain in storage ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: United Linux: why MandrakeSoft will not join
Does anyone have a shovel? These guys could use some help getting out... getting their head out of the sand is going to be the most difficult part of the rescue. What threshold would they like crossed before admitting that there is some splintering? Ok. So the splintering doesn't look the same as it did for Unix, but the fact that you have to recompile for each distro does spell SOME disaster... Oh, I forgot. They don't DO their own work, but build off of Red Hat. Ooops. I guess that's ONE way to keep compatible. Perhaps the other four should jump on the RH-base bandwagon and give up this foolish shenanagan of making their own distro-base. Then again, maybe we don't WANT Linux to be in one basket... On Tue, 2 Jul 2002 16:02:40 -0400 (EDT) Net Llama! [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.mandrakesoft.com/company/investors/bsa/faq2 -- ~~ Lonni J Friedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step TyGeMohttp://netllama.ipfox.com ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL. ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: United Linux: why MandrakeSoft will not join
Matt, sorry, but i've got to call you on this. First, what has to be recomipiled for each distro? Most binaries will happily run on just about any distro released in the past 6 months. Second, Mandrake stopped basing their distro on Redhat well over a year ago. That aside, sure Mandrake seem to be a bit overconfident in themselves, but i don't know that is a bad thing. I'm not the least bit convinced that UnitedLinux has any chance of changing the futures of its participants. Mandrake seems to have finally found a business plan that works for them. On Wed, 3 Jul 2002, Matthew Carpenter wrote: Does anyone have a shovel? These guys could use some help getting out... getting their head out of the sand is going to be the most difficult part of the rescue. What threshold would they like crossed before admitting that there is some splintering? Ok. So the splintering doesn't look the same as it did for Unix, but the fact that you have to recompile for each distro does spell SOME disaster... Oh, I forgot. They don't DO their own work, but build off of Red Hat. Ooops. I guess that's ONE way to keep compatible. Perhaps the other four should jump on the RH-base bandwagon and give up this foolish shenanagan of making their own distro-base. Then again, maybe we don't WANT Linux to be in one basket... On Tue, 2 Jul 2002 16:02:40 -0400 (EDT) Net Llama! [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.mandrakesoft.com/company/investors/bsa/faq2 -- ~~ Lonni J Friedman[EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step TyGeMo http://netllama.ipfox.com ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Vote for XFce
-- Forwarded message -- Date: Wed, 03 Jul 2002 08:20:04 +0100 From: David Wijnants [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Vote for XFce osnews is running a poll for your favourite Linux distribution and window manager - and XFce is one of the options! http://osnews.com/story.php?news_id=1299 ___ Xfce mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://moongroup.com/mailman/listinfo/xfce ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
SanDisk and Linux
Hi Guys, Just looking for some input. Have any of you played around with the small SanDisk SD card storage devices? My Zaurus uses them and I would like to transfer data using the 64M unit that is currently in use. I understand SD makes a USB adapter and I was curious if anyone has fiddled around with such? stayler ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: X fails
On Tue, 02 Jul 2002 19:42:34 -0700 Net Llama! [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: rick, i think we need a bit more info to go on here. it seems that X isn't configured for remote display, perhaps? or you're blocking port 6000? Lonnie eServer 3.1.1 xfree 4.2 stock install. kernel 2.4.13,I think, if I try to start gui with kdm a black screen for a while, then it returns to run level 3. If I try then, after login, startkde startxfce, startx [root@Sivernell root]# startx XFree86 Version 4.2.0 / X Window System (protocol Version 11, revision 0, vendor release 6600) Release Date: 18 January 2002 If the server is older than 6-12 months, or if your card is newer than the above date, look for a newer version before reporting problems. (See http://www.XFree86.Org/) Build Operating System: Linux 2.4.9-13smp i686 [ELF] Module Loader present Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting, (++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational, (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown. (==) Log file: /var/log/XFree86.0.log, Time: Wed Jul 3 08:13:38 2002 (==) Using config file: /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 Fatal server error: _LoaderFileToMem() read() failed: Input/output error When reporting a problem related to a server crash, please send the full server output, not just the last messages. This can be found in the log file /var/log/XFree86.0.log. Please report problems to [EMAIL PROTECTED] XIO: fatal IO error 104 (Connection reset by peer) on X server :0.0 after 0 requests (0 known processed) with 0 events remaining. [root@Sivernell root]# [root@Sivernell root]# startxfce /usr/bin/startxfce: X server already running on display :0.0 xsetroot: unable to open display ':0.0' xset: unable to open display :0.0 xfwm message (type main): Error = can't open display :0.0 [root@Sivernell root]# xscreensaver: Can't open display: :0.0 xscreensaver: initial effective uid/gid was root/root (0/0) xscreensaver: running as nobody/nobody (65534/65534) xscreensaver: This is probably because you're logging in as root. You shouldn't log in as root: you should log in as a normal user, and then `su' as needed. If you insist on logging in as root, you will have to turn off X's security features before xscreensaver will work. Please read the manual and FAQ for more information: http://www.jwz.org/xscreensaver/faq.html http://www.jwz.org/xscreensaver/man.html [root@Sivernell root]# [root@Sivernell root]# startkde xsetroot: unable to open display ':0.0' xset: unable to open display :0.0 xset: unable to open display :0.0 xset: unable to open display :0.0 ksplash: cannot connect to X server :0.0 DCOPServer up and running. kded: cannot connect to X server :0.0 DCOP aborting call from 'anonymous-1788' to 'kded' ERROR: KUniqueApplication: DCOP communication error! kdeinit: Can't connect to the X Server. kdeinit: Might not terminate at end of session. kcminit: cannot connect to X server :0.0 knotify: cannot connect to X server :0.0 ERROR: KUniqueApplication: Registering failed! ERROR: KUniqueApplication: DCOP communication error! ksmserver: cannot connect to X server :0.0 [root@Sivernell root]# hotpluguid: cannot connect to X server :0.0 ERROR: KUniqueApplication: Registering failed! ERROR: KUniqueApplication: DCOP communication error! [root@Sivernell root]# If I login thru ssh or run at the actual machine the result is the same. How would I check to see if port 6000 is being blocked Thanks cheers -- Rick Sivernell Dallas, Texas 75287 972 306-2296 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Caldera Open Linux eWorkStation 3.1.1 Registered Linux User .~. / v \ /( _ )\ ^ ^ In Linux we trust! ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: X fails
On Tue, 2 Jul 2002, Richard R. Sivernell wrote: Fatal server error: _LoaderFileToMem() read() failed: Input/output error When reporting a problem related to a server crash, please send the full server output, not just the last messages. This can be found in the log file /var/log/XFree86.0.log. Please report problems to [EMAIL PROTECTED] XIO: fatal IO error 104 (Connection reset by peer) on X server :0.0 after 0 requests (0 known processed) with 0 events remaining. Right now, all that matters is the info above, specifically, that LoaderFileToMem error, and XFree86.0.log. What changed on your box prior to this problem? I was under the impression that XFree86-4.2.0 did *not* come with any Caldera release. If this is true, then how/when did you install it? -- ~~ Lonni J Friedman[EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step TyGeMo http://netllama.ipfox.com ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: X fails
Lonnie Correct, I did install it from the run level 3 command line source. It had the same error with 4.1 stock. I installed the system from a scratch, blank hd, and fresh install of 3.1.1. -- Rick Sivernell Dallas, Texas 75287 972 306-2296 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Caldera Open Linux eWorkStation 3.1.1 Registered Linux User .~. / v \ /( _ )\ ^ ^ In Linux we trust! ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: X fails
Richard R. Sivernell wrote: Lonnie Correct, I did install it from the run level 3 command line source. It had the same error with 4.1 stock. I installed the system from a scratch, blank hd, and fresh install of 3.1.1. Do you think there is something wrong with the XF86Config file? Maybe some bogus characters or something in there? This error comes form the X binary and a google search reveals some information about this error.. but nothing that says, here.. fix me this way. Myabe strace -o foo -f X and see where the IO error is comming from? Maybe something to try. Jim -- quattro... the unfair advantage... ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: X fails
Here is what the function does-- so seems like X cant open some file or read it correctly... /* * _LoaderFileToMem() loads the contents of a file into memory using * the most efficient method for a platform. */ ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: X fails
On Wed, 03 Jul 2002 07:43:54 -0700 Jim Bonnet [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Richard R. Sivernell wrote: Lonnie Correct, I did install it from the run level 3 command line source. It had the same error with 4.1 stock. I installed the system from a scratch, blank hd, and fresh install of 3.1.1. Do you think there is something wrong with the XF86Config file? Maybe some bogus characters or something in there? This error comes form the X binary and a google search reveals some information about this error.. but nothing that says, here.. fix me this way. Myabe strace -o foo -f X and see where the IO error is comming from? Maybe something to try. Jim -- quattro... the unfair advantage... ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL. Jim Checked the XF86Config-4 on 2 systems and they are the same. common monitor keyboard mouse. thru switch. The 2 systems have the same video cards too. -- cheers Rick Sivernell Dallas, Texas 75287 972 306-2296 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Caldera Open Linux eWorkStation 3.1.1 Registered Linux User .~. / v \ /( _ )\ ^ ^ In Linux we trust! ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: X fails
On Tue, 2 Jul 2002 08:43:09 -0500 begin Richard R. Sivernell [EMAIL PROTECTED] spewed forth: List rstart Sivernell xfwm connection refused What has refused connection the display. Dispaly is set 0.0 perhaps xauth is getting in the way? try changing your display variable from :0.0 to LOCALHOST:0.0 or $HOSTNAME:0.0 [snip] Ciao, David A. Bandel -- Focus on the dream, not the competition. -- Nemesis Racing Team motto ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: Vote for XFce
On Wed, 3 Jul 2002 09:09:33 -0400 (EDT) begin Net Llama! [EMAIL PROTECTED] spewed forth: http://osnews.com/story.php?news_id=1299 Whoa! Where are all the Blackbox users hiding? I though I was much more in the minority. Ciao, David A. Bandel -- Focus on the dream, not the competition. -- Nemesis Racing Team motto ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: United Linux: why MandrakeSoft will not join
Disagree. Been using Mandrake 8.0 ever since the Great Caldera Insult of 99. Tried 8.1 but it suffers from the same disease as most other new releases in that the floppy and cdrom are not accessible from the desktop or from the command line either. But, I have been using Mandrake long enough to know that it is not a Red Hat Clone. I've downloaded too many Red Hat RPMs and tarballs that wouldn't install due to configuration differences to believe that. A second point is why would Mandrake want to join SuSE and the three bears? Like Red Hat they're on the verge of making a profit. With their two year contract with the French government to de-MicroSoft French Government computers they might just succeed in pushing M$ out of France. By joining Caldera's latest harebrained scheme they would just make it easier to be invaded by other Linux distributors on their own French turf. Then there is this great bug-a-boo of splintering. So what? That's what Linux is all about. The only unsplintered OS around is M$. I don't hear too many suggestions that that is the ideal that Linux should strive for. The truth is that Linux is by it's very nature supposed to be splintered. It is supposed to be driven by thousands of developers both professional and non professional who design and redesign it. Linux has not lost market share because of any splinter effect. No matter how hard that makes the job of system administrator the business consumer doesn't care. To most of them the system administer is the little man you don't see. If he has to tie the system together with bailing wire and rags so what as long as it works. Linux has done so poorly because they have never really tried to market their product. When was the last time you saw a commercial or newspaper ad for Mandrake, Red Hat, SuSe, Caldera or anyone other than an IBM ad. Right now Apple is running ads all over the tv networks pushing their computers (so they claim) over windows powered pcs. That's called marketing. Then there is the problem if this United Harebrain concept succeeds? We end up with one desktop and all the current Linux distributors become little more than venders of Linux optional software with the only difference being the games provided, office, whether you get Sand or cdroast a cd player or a cd player and an MP3 player qview or bitmap. Before very long you're going to end up with one Linux desktop. As for system; yes that would solve a lot of hard work. But come on, you guys are paid to do the work. It's the reason for your existence. Simplify it too much and it's replace time with a cousin Orville who flunked out of second grade, but does have enough smarts to turn the server on in the morning and off in the evening and has the telephone number of repair shop when it crashes. Then there is the biggy. You can hand build a Linux server system by taking pieces from the net and other distros to meet the client's needs. Try that with M$ or UnitedLinux whose latest release has a hugh hole in it that wouldn't be fix until the next release in 18 months. Lee Matthew Carpenter wrote: Does anyone have a shovel? These guys could use some help getting out... getting their head out of the sand is going to be the most difficult part of the rescue. What threshold would they like crossed before admitting that there is some splintering? Ok. So the splintering doesn't look the same as it did for Unix, but the fact that you have to recompile for each distro does spell SOME disaster... Oh, I forgot. They don't DO their own work, but build off of Red Hat. Ooops. I guess that's ONE way to keep compatible. Perhaps the other four should jump on the RH-base bandwagon and give up this foolish shenanagan of making their own distro-base. Then again, maybe we don't WANT Linux to be in one basket... On Tue, 2 Jul 2002 16:02:40 -0400 (EDT) Net Llama! [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.mandrakesoft.com/company/investors/bsa/faq2 -- ~~ Lonni J Friedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step TyGeMohttp://netllama.ipfox.com ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL. ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL. ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: X fails
So at what point did it last work? What have you change since it last worked? On Tue, 2 Jul 2002, Richard R. Sivernell wrote: Lonnie Correct, I did install it from the run level 3 command line source. It had the same error with 4.1 stock. I installed the system from a scratch, blank hd, and fresh install of 3.1.1. -- ~~ Lonni J Friedman[EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step TyGeMo http://netllama.ipfox.com ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: X fails
On Wed, 3 Jul 2002, Richard R. Sivernell wrote: On Wed, 03 Jul 2002 07:43:54 -0700 Jim Bonnet [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Richard R. Sivernell wrote: Lonnie Correct, I did install it from the run level 3 command line source. It had the same error with 4.1 stock. I installed the system from a scratch, blank hd, and fresh install of 3.1.1. Do you think there is something wrong with the XF86Config file? Maybe some bogus characters or something in there? This error comes form the X binary and a google search reveals some information about this error.. but nothing that says, here.. fix me this way. Myabe strace -o foo -f X and see where the IO error is comming from? Maybe something to try. Jim Checked the XF86Config-4 on 2 systems and they are the same. common monitor keyboard mouse. thru switch. The 2 systems have the same video cards too. -- cheers Im' wondering if its the videocard. Can you try swapping it out? -- ~~ Lonni J Friedman[EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step TyGeMo http://netllama.ipfox.com ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Fw: Announcing a beta release of Red Hat Linux: Limbo
For those interested.. Mike - Original Message - From: Bill Nottingham [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 03, 2002 1:08 PM Subject: Announcing a beta release of Red Hat Linux: Limbo A formless gray void shifts around you. You feel neither pleasure nor pain; mainly a sense of waiting. Other souls similarly confused shuffle aimlessly about. What do you do now? Where do you go from here? Welcome to LIMBO, a new beta release of Red Hat Linux. LIMBO includes, but is not limited to: - the latest desktop technology - gcc-3.1 - Mozilla 1.0+ - OpenOffice 1.0 - and much much more Such beta software as LIMBO is not intended for use on mission critical or production systems. Use on such systems could lead to loss of uptime, data, money, employment, or sentience. Remember, if it breaks, you get to keep all 1491 pieces. Problems with LIMBO should be reported via bugzilla, at: http://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/ As always, you can find LIMBO at redhat.com. Specifically: ftp://ftp.redhat.com/pub/redhat/linux/beta/limbo/ or, at the following mirrors: North America: - ftp://redhat.dulug.duke.edu/pub/redhat/linux/beta/limbo/ (http and also rsync access) - ftp://carroll.aset.psu.edu/pub/linux/distributions/redhat/redhat/linux/beta/ limbo/ - ftp://ftp.cse.buffalo.edu/pub/Linux/redhat/redhat/linux/beta/limbo/ - ftp://mirror.hiwaay.net/redhat/redhat/linux/beta/limbo/ - ftp://limestone.uoregon.edu/redhat/beta/limbo/ - ftp://ftp.shuttleamerica.com/pub/mirrors/redhat/linux/beta/limbo/ (also rsync access) - ftp://mirror.cs.princeton.edu/pub/mirrors/redhat/linux/beta/limbo/ Europe: - ftp://ftp.tu-chemnitz.de/pub/linux/redhat-ftp/redhat/linux/beta/limbo/ - ftp://ftp.linux.cz/pub/linux/redhat/linux/beta/limbo/ - ftp://alviss.et.tudelft.nl/pub/redhat/linux/beta/limbo/ - ftp://ftp.nluug.nl/site/ftp.redhat.com/redhat/linux/beta/limbo/ - ftp://gd.tuwien.ac.at/pub/linux/redhat.com/dist/linux/beta/limbo/ (http and also rsync access) - ftp://sunsite.mff.cuni.cz/MIRRORS/ftp.redhat.com/redhat/linux/beta/limbo/ (also rsync access) - ftp://ftp.uni-bayreuth.de/pub/redhat/linux/beta/limbo/ or check http://www.redhat.com/download/mirror.html for a mirror near you. For discussion of LIMBO, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] with subscribe in the subject line. You can leave the body empty. Or see: https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/limbo-list/ ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: United Linux: why MandrakeSoft will not join
Lee wrote: Then there is this great bug-a-boo of splintering. So what? That's what Linux is all about. The only unsplintered OS around is M$. And just how unsplintered is a company that offers DOS Windows 95 Windows 98 Windows 98SE Windows ME Windows NT Windows 2000 Windows XP in various versions of each? At least the core of Linux is still the Linus kernel. g ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: X fails
On Wed, 3 Jul 2002 13:09:37 -0500 David A. Bandel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 2 Jul 2002 08:43:09 -0500 begin Richard R. Sivernell [EMAIL PROTECTED] spewed forth: List rstart Sivernell xfwm connection refused What has refused connection the display. Dispaly is set 0.0 perhaps xauth is getting in the way? try changing your display variable from :0.0 to LOCALHOST:0.0 or $HOSTNAME:0.0 [snip] Ciao, David A. Bandel -- Focus on the dream, not the competition. -- Nemesis Racing Team motto ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL. David no go .Xaut has 0 len put the $HOSTNAME in DISPLAY in /etc/profile still no go can not open displayctrl-alt-backspace does nothing. -- Rick Sivernell Dallas, Texas 75287 972 306-2296 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Caldera Open Linux eWorkStation 3.1.1 Registered Linux User .~. / v \ /( _ )\ ^ ^ In Linux we trust! ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: United Linux: why MandrakeSoft will not join
Not defending M$, only a point of view. First Win 95, 98. ME are basically the same distro, from the same company released about every 2-3yrs. Something like Mandrake 7.2, 8.0. 8.1,8.2 ect. What runs on Win 95 generally runs on Win 98 and even ME. The Nt based distros (nt4, 2000, XP) are similar but not identical as hardware and software developers are a little more reluctant to make drivers for the different Windows NT distros, so M$ has to do a little work on its own and write drivers, many of which don't work. But that doesn't change the fact that Windows, with all its bugs and crap. is basically unsplintered. It is also rigid and incapable of doing anything Bill Gates didn't design into it. It can not be modified in the field. This quest for unsplintering is not something that Linux should strive for. If you don't like Mandrake 8.0 load 8.1, 8.2 or SuSE 7.2 or 8.0, or RH 7.1, 7.2 ect. There is always an option. If there is an option on one distro that you want to run in a different distro it is not impossible to lift it and recompile. That's something you can't do with Windows. As for the all perfect United distro (even it's not marked on the desktop box) Windows provides an excellent example of what can happen. XP was their new bigger' better, with larger chrome strips release and it's fallen on it's face. Not because it's crap (the average Windows user wouldn't know that) but because the consumer has decided that it is not necessary. My Win 95 OS does everything I want it to do and I have all the bugs worked out of it Why do I need to spend $200 for XP? Do you really think the same thing can't happen with UnitedLinux? Lee box wrote: Lee wrote: Then there is this great bug-a-boo of splintering. So what? That's what Linux is all about. The only unsplintered OS around is M$. And just how unsplintered is a company that offers DOS Windows 95 Windows 98 Windows 98SE Windows ME Windows NT Windows 2000 Windows XP in various versions of each? At least the core of Linux is still the Linus kernel. g ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL. ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: X fails
On Wed, 03 Jul 2002 11:20:04 -0700 Jim Bonnet [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Checked the XF86Config-4 on 2 systems and they are the same. common monitor keyboard mouse. thru switch. The 2 systems have the same video cards too. what did strace show?? Some file can load into memory because of an IO error.. -jim ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL. Jim strace output [pid 896] socket(PF_UNIX, SOCK_STREAM, 0) = 4 [pid 896] connect(4, {sin_family=AF_UNIX, path=/var/run/.nscd_socket}, 110) = 0 [pid 896] write(4, \2\0\0\0\4\0\0\0\30\0\0\0, 12) = 12 [pid 896] write(4, Sivernell.sivernell.net\0, 24) = 24 [pid 896] read(4, \0\0\0\0\1\0\0\0\30\0\0\0\1\0\0\0\2\0\0\0\4\0\0\0\1\0\0..., 32) = 32 [pid 896] readv(4, [{Sivernell.sivernell.net\0, 24}, {\n\0\0\0, 4}, {\300\250\1(, 4}], 3) = 32 [pid 896] read(4, Sivernell\0, 10) = 10 [pid 896] close(4)= 0 [pid 896] setsockopt(3, SOL_SOCKET, SO_KEEPALIVE, [1], 4) = 0 [pid 896] connect(3, {sin_family=AF_INET, sin_port=htons(6000), sin_addr=inet_addr(192.168.1.40)}}, 16) = -1 ECONNREFUSED (Connection refused) [pid 896] close(3)= 0 [pid 896] rt_sigprocmask(SIG_BLOCK, [CHLD], [], 8) = 0 [pid 896] rt_sigaction(SIGCHLD, NULL, {SIG_DFL}, 8) = 0 [pid 896] rt_sigprocmask(SIG_SETMASK, [], NULL, 8) = 0 [pid 896] nanosleep({1, 0}, unfinished ... [pid 901] getpid()= 901 [pid 901] close(255) = 0 found this in portsentry.conf ### # Port Configurations # ### # # # Some example port configs for classic and basic Stealth modes # # I like to always keep some ports at the low end of the spectrum. # This will detect a sequential port sweep really quickly and usually # these ports are not in use (i.e. tcpmux port 1) # # ** X-Windows Users **: If you are running X on your box, you need to be sure # you are not binding PortSentry to port 6000 (or port 2000 for OpenWindows # users). Doing so will prevent the X-client from starting properly. # # These port bindings are *ignored* for Advanced Stealth Scan Detection Mode. # # Un-comment these if you are really anal: #TCP_PORTS=1,7,9,11,15,70,79,80,109,110,111,119,138,139,143,512,513,514,515,540 #,635, 1080,1524,2000,2001,4000,4001,5742,6000,6001,6667,12345,12346,20034,30303,32771, 32772, 32773,32774,31337,40421,40425,49724,54320 #UDP_PORTS=1,7,9,66,67,68,69,111,137,138,161,162,474,513,517,518,635,640,641,66 #6,700, 2049,32770,32771,32772,32773,32774,31337,54321 # -- Rick Sivernell Dallas, Texas 75287 972 306-2296 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Caldera Open Linux eWorkStation 3.1.1 Registered Linux User .~. / v \ /( _ )\ ^ ^ In Linux we trust! ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: X fails
Lonnie This is a fresh install of 3.1.1, All hardware has worked flawlessly on Solaris 8 and peanut linux caldera 3.1. This problem is from Install of 3.1.1 cheers -- Rick Sivernell Dallas, Texas 75287 972 306-2296 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Caldera Open Linux eWorkStation 3.1.1 Registered Linux User .~. / v \ /( _ )\ ^ ^ In Linux we trust! ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: Fw: Announcing a beta release of Red Hat Linux: Limbo
Mike Chambers wrote: For those interested.. Mike snip Welcome to LIMBO, a new beta release of Red Hat Linux. snip Thanks Mike. -- Andrew Mathews 4:20pm up 53 days, 15:58, 9 users, load average: 1.08, 1.03, 1.00 It is Texas law that when two trains meet each other at a railroad crossing, each shall come to a full stop, and neither shall proceed until the other has gone. ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: Fw: Announcing a beta release of Red Hat Linux: Limbo
On Wed, 3 Jul 2002 14:35:20 -0500 Mike Chambers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For those interested.. Mike - Original Message - From: Bill Nottingham [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 03, 2002 1:08 PM Subject: Announcing a beta release of Red Hat Linux: Limbo Welcome to LIMBO, a new beta release of Red Hat Linux. Thanks for the chuckle; almost as good as the M$ CEMeNT release! -- Collins Richey - Denver Area - WWTLRD? gentoo(since 01/01/01) 2.4.18+(ext3) xfce-sylpheed-mozilla ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: X fails
Richard R. Sivernell wrote: On Wed, 03 Jul 2002 11:20:04 -0700 Jim Bonnet [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Checked the XF86Config-4 on 2 systems and they are the same. common monitor keyboard mouse. thru switch. The 2 systems have the same video cards too. what did strace show?? Some file can load into memory because of an IO error.. -jim ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL. Jim strace output [pid 896] socket(PF_UNIX, SOCK_STREAM, 0) = 4 [pid 896] connect(4, {sin_family=AF_UNIX, path=/var/run/.nscd_socket}, 110) = 0 [pid 896] write(4, \2\0\0\0\4\0\0\0\30\0\0\0, 12) = 12 [pid 896] write(4, Sivernell.sivernell.net\0, 24) = 24 [pid 896] read(4, \0\0\0\0\1\0\0\0\30\0\0\0\1\0\0\0\2\0\0\0\4\0\0\0\1\0\0..., 32) = 32 [pid 896] readv(4, [{Sivernell.sivernell.net\0, 24}, {\n\0\0\0, 4}, {\300\250\1(, 4}], 3) = 32 [pid 896] read(4, Sivernell\0, 10) = 10 [pid 896] close(4)= 0 [pid 896] setsockopt(3, SOL_SOCKET, SO_KEEPALIVE, [1], 4) = 0 [pid 896] connect(3, {sin_family=AF_INET, sin_port=htons(6000), sin_addr=inet_addr(192.168.1.40)}}, 16) = -1 ECONNREFUSED (Connection refused) [pid 896] close(3)= 0 [pid 896] rt_sigprocmask(SIG_BLOCK, [CHLD], [], 8) = 0 [pid 896] rt_sigaction(SIGCHLD, NULL, {SIG_DFL}, 8) = 0 [pid 896] rt_sigprocmask(SIG_SETMASK, [], NULL, 8) = 0 [pid 896] nanosleep({1, 0}, unfinished ... [pid 901] getpid()= 901 [pid 901] close(255) = 0 found this in portsentry.conf ### # Port Configurations # ### # # # Some example port configs for classic and basic Stealth modes # # I like to always keep some ports at the low end of the spectrum. # This will detect a sequential port sweep really quickly and usually # these ports are not in use (i.e. tcpmux port 1) # # ** X-Windows Users **: If you are running X on your box, you need to be sure # you are not binding PortSentry to port 6000 (or port 2000 for OpenWindows # users). Doing so will prevent the X-client from starting properly. # # These port bindings are *ignored* for Advanced Stealth Scan Detection Mode. # # Un-comment these if you are really anal: #TCP_PORTS=1,7,9,11,15,70,79,80,109,110,111,119,138,139,143,512,513,514,515,540 #,635, 1080,1524,2000,2001,4000,4001,5742,6000,6001,6667,12345,12346,20034,30303,32771, 32772, 32773,32774,31337,40421,40425,49724,54320 #UDP_PORTS=1,7,9,66,67,68,69,111,137,138,161,162,474,513,517,518,635,640,641,66 #6,700, 2049,32770,32771,32772,32773,32774,31337,54321 # Well it sure looks to me like something in the network is broken. Can you telnet to localhost port 6000? strange problem.. -- quattro... the unfair advantage... ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: X fails
On Wed, 3 Jul 2002 04:10:48 -0500 begin Richard R. Sivernell [EMAIL PROTECTED] spewed forth: On Wed, 3 Jul 2002 13:09:37 -0500 David A. Bandel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 2 Jul 2002 08:43:09 -0500 begin Richard R. Sivernell [EMAIL PROTECTED] spewed forth: List rstart Sivernell xfwm connection refused What has refused connection the display. Dispaly is set 0.0 [snip] OK, I'm not following. What is rstart? The remote host is Sivernell? And you want to run xfwm on it? Is X running? How did you start it? Did you use -ac? Ciao, David A. Bandel -- Focus on the dream, not the competition. -- Nemesis Racing Team motto ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: X fails
OK, I'm not following. What is rstart? The remote host is Sivernell? And you want to run xfwm on it? Is X running? How did you start it? Did you use -ac? Ciao, David A. Bandel ack.. good point.. you are probably right, here I was thinking this is a local connection. Jim ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: X fails
David This is a fresh install of eServer 3.1.1 on a hd. CL is the only thing to work. X does not start DISPALY 0.0 is in use but port 6k can not be used. Ihave tried a varied amount of things suggested by others all failed. Currently running at runlevel 3. startx startxfce or any other fails. I would like to find out more of the operation of X startup. cheers -- Rick Sivernell Dallas, Texas 75287 972 306-2296 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Caldera Open Linux eWorkStation 3.1.1 Registered Linux User .~. / v \ /( _ )\ ^ ^ In Linux we trust! ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
ranking of distros by service
I've been pretty much stuck on one distro for a long time, and I've followed the user group almost since inception. Other than Mandrake a few years back and Caldera before that, I haven't followed other distros that closely. I'm just curious what your responses from various distros has been with respect to reported problems and resolution of same. With my current distro, there's a very short turn around time between opening a bugzilla and finding it closed - a few hours to a few days. On the other hand, since this distro doesn't have a beta phase (it's sort of a continuous beta) and new releases with content that is radically different from what the current users are running, so maybe all the bugs with the other distros are solved in beta. Curious mand wants to know. -- Collins Richey - Denver Area - WWTLRD? gentoo(since 01/01/01) 2.4.18+(ext3) xfce-sylpheed-mozilla ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: X fails
On Wed, 3 Jul 2002 08:40:15 -0500 begin Richard R. Sivernell [EMAIL PROTECTED] spewed forth: David This is a fresh install of eServer 3.1.1 on a hd. CL is the only thing to work. X does not start DISPALY 0.0 is in use but port 6k can not be used. Ihave tried a varied amount of things suggested by others all failed. Currently running at runlevel 3. startx startxfce or any other fails. OK, try this command: startx -- :1 (that's startx space dash dash space colon one) Ciao, David A. Bandel -- Focus on the dream, not the competition. -- Nemesis Racing Team motto ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: X fails
On Wed, 03 Jul 2002 17:25:34 -0700 Jim Bonnet [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Richard R. Sivernell wrote: On Wed, 03 Jul 2002 11:20:04 -0700 Jim Bonnet [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Checked the XF86Config-4 on 2 systems and they are the same. common monitor keyboard mouse. thru switch. The 2 systems have the same video cards too. what did strace show?? Some file can load into memory because of an IO error.. -jim ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL. Jim strace output [pid 896] socket(PF_UNIX, SOCK_STREAM, 0) = 4 [pid 896] connect(4, {sin_family=AF_UNIX, path=/var/run/.nscd_socket}, 110) = 0 [pid 896] write(4, \2\0\0\0\4\0\0\0\30\0\0\0, 12) = 12 [pid 896] write(4, Sivernell.sivernell.net\0, 24) = 24 [pid 896] read(4, \0\0\0\0\1\0\0\0\30\0\0\0\1\0\0\0\2\0\0\0\4\0\0\0\1\0\0..., 32) = 32 [pid 896] readv(4, [{Sivernell.sivernell.net\0, 24}, {\n\0\0\0, 4}, {\300\250\1(, 4}], 3) = 32 [pid 896] read(4, Sivernell\0, 10) = 10 [pid 896] close(4)= 0 [pid 896] setsockopt(3, SOL_SOCKET, SO_KEEPALIVE, [1], 4) = 0 [pid 896] connect(3, {sin_family=AF_INET, sin_port=htons(6000), sin_addr=inet_addr(192.168.1.40)}}, 16) = -1 ECONNREFUSED (Connection refused) [pid 896] close(3)= 0 [pid 896] rt_sigprocmask(SIG_BLOCK, [CHLD], [], 8) = 0 [pid 896] rt_sigaction(SIGCHLD, NULL, {SIG_DFL}, 8) = 0 [pid 896] rt_sigprocmask(SIG_SETMASK, [], NULL, 8) = 0 [pid 896] nanosleep({1, 0}, unfinished ... [pid 901] getpid()= 901 [pid 901] close(255) = 0 found this in portsentry.conf ### # Port Configurations # ### # # # Some example port configs for classic and basic Stealth modes # # I like to always keep some ports at the low end of the spectrum. # This will detect a sequential port sweep really quickly and usually # these ports are not in use (i.e. tcpmux port 1) # # ** X-Windows Users **: If you are running X on your box, you need to be # sure you are not binding PortSentry to port 6000 (or port 2000 for # OpenWindows users). Doing so will prevent the X-client from starting # properly. # # These port bindings are *ignored* for Advanced Stealth Scan Detection Mode. # # Un-comment these if you are really anal: #TCP_PORTS=1,7,9,11,15,70,79,80,109,110,111,119,138,139,143,512,513,514,515 #,540,635, 1080,1524,2000,2001,4000,4001,5742,6000,6001,6667,12345,12346,20034,30303,32 771, 32772, 32773,32774,31337,40421,40425,49724,54320 #UDP_PORTS=1,7,9,66,67,68,69,111,137,138,161,162,474,513,517,518,635,640,64 #1,66 6,700, 2049,32770,32771,32772,32773,32774,31337,54321 # Well it sure looks to me like something in the network is broken. Can you telnet to localhost port 6000? strange problem.. -- quattro... the unfair advantage... ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL. Jim telnet localhost 6000 connection refused -- Rick Sivernell Dallas, Texas 75287 972 306-2296 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Caldera Open Linux eWorkStation 3.1.1 Registered Linux User .~. / v \ /( _ )\ ^ ^ In Linux we trust! ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: SanDisk and Linux
On Wed, 3 Jul 2002 23:42, stayler wrote: Hi Guys, Just looking for some input. Have any of you played around with the small SanDisk SD card storage devices? My Zaurus uses them and I would like to transfer data using the 64M unit that is currently in use. I understand SD makes a USB adapter and I was curious if anyone has fiddled around with such? stayler Now Shaun, you know I had one of those attached to my computer when you were here. Mine is a dual Sandisk reader for smartmedia and also Compactflash2 . So anything else will be recognised so long as its USB mas storage compat. Initializing USB Mass Storage driver... usb.c: registered new driver usb-storage USB Mass Storage support registered. -- Keith Antoine (GANDALF) aka 'skippy' 18 Arkana St, The Gap, Queensland 4061 Australia PH:61733002161 Retired Geriatric, Sometime Electronics Engineer, Knowall, Brain in storage ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: United Linux: why MandrakeSoft will not join
Sorry. I guess that's coming from the fact that I haven't kept up lately. I didn't realize MDK was separate from RH, nor did I realize that I wasn't still tied to the barrel by choosing COL... I guess I got so used to rolling my own RPM's since CheckInstall came out that I never thought to try anything else. On the same note, I just recently was having troubles with my favorite Audio editor, Audacity, and when I followed the request of the developer to install their RPM's, everything worked. I thought I got off easy, seeing as I had forgotten the goat and my sacrificial blade was extra dull anyway. So you're saying that on COL311, I should be able to run most current RPM's? Woo Hoo! I thought Heaven was waiting for me to die! Thanks, Llama. You made my day! begin Net Llama! [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Wed, 3 Jul 2002 09:04:48 -0400 (EDT)) Most binaries will happily run on just about any distro released in the past 6 months. Second, Mandrake stopped basing their distro on Redhat well over a year ago. -- Matthew Carpenter [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.e-i-s.cc/ Enterprise Information Systems *Network Consulting, Integration Support *Web Development and E-Business ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: X fails
MR. BANDEL OH Mighty one , oh Master of Linux Guru of Gurus. Well , I found the - problem libxie.a was bad. Your last suggestion pointed out a little more clearly or it just it me in the face. Replaced with one on my other running machine and all is well. Thanks to you Lonnie Jim and all others. cheers -- Rick Sivernell Dallas, Texas 75287 972 306-2296 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Caldera Open Linux eWorkStation 3.1.1 Registered Linux User .~. / v \ /( _ )\ ^ ^ In Linux we trust! ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: SanDisk and Linux
Hey Skippy, So what did you do to get usb-storage to not totally lock up your system? I've tried 2 builds and a few different configs and it locks up tight as a drum every time! I've been searching all over googfle for clues but not a one So Gandalf, lay some of that major mojo on me mate stayler On Thu, 4 Jul 2002 12:19:02 +1000, Keith Antoine wrote: Now Shaun, you know I had one of those attached to my computer when you were here. Mine is a dual Sandisk reader for smartmedia and also Compactflash2 . So anything else will be recognised so long as its USB mas storage compat. Initializing USB Mass Storage driver... usb.c: registered new driver usb-storage USB Mass Storage support registered. -- Keith Antoine (GANDALF) aka 'skippy' 18 Arkana St, The Gap, Queensland 4061 Australia PH:61733002161 ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: SanDisk and Linux
BTW my reader is an ACOMDATA multi car unit. it does MMC/SD/SM/CF/MS in 4 different slots. Thje USB module recognizes a device but nothing appears in /proc/bus/usb the directory stays empty. And of course usb-storage just hangs the whole yste, forcing a hard reset. stayler On Thu, 4 Jul 2002 12:19:02 +1000, Keith Antoine wrote: Now Shaun, you know I had one of those attached to my computer when you were here. Mine is a dual Sandisk reader for smartmedia and also Compactflash2 . So anything else will be recognised so long as its USB mas storage compat. Initializing USB Mass Storage driver... usb.c: registered new driver usb-storage USB Mass Storage support registered. -- Keith Antoine (GANDALF) aka 'skippy' 18 Arkana St, The Gap, Queensland 4061 Australia PH:61733002161 ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: United Linux: why MandrakeSoft will not join
On Tuesday 02 July 2002 03:32 pm, you wrote: I found this remark which I snipped from the article (a Mandrake manifesto IMHO) rather amusing: Before the Linux Standard Base, there was a de facto standardization phenomenon. When studying the Linux distributions, it is clear that most of them are based on Red Hat, Debian and Mandrake, which qualifies them as de facto standards. I thought more portent was their remark a little further down: It is extremely hard for us to understand why some software publishers and hardware manufacturers only support one Linux distribution. Shawn ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
kde 3.02 troubles...
Anyone on here have any success with kde 3.02? I've managed to compile the source without any problems, but getting it to run is another story... I'm getting these errors ;') From the traceback... (no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)... (no debugging symbols found)...[New Thread 1024 (LWP 21854)] 0x40fb3c99 in __wait4 () from /lib/libc.so.6 #0 0x40fb3c99 in __wait4 () from /lib/libc.so.6 #1 0x4102bbf0 in __DTOR_END__ () from /lib/libc.so.6 #2 0x40e7538a in waitpid () from /lib/libpthread.so.0 #3 0x4067028f in KCrash::defaultCrashHandler () from /opt/kde3/lib/libkdecore.so.4 #4 0x40e72e64 in pthread_sighandler () from /lib/libpthread.so.0 #5 signal handler called From the console... DCOPServer up and running. There are already artsd objects registered, looking if they are active... Mutex destroy failure: Device or resource busy Error: Can't add object reference (probably artsd is already running). If you are sure it is not already running, remove the relevant files: /tmp/mcop-root/Arts_SoundServerV2 /tmp/mcop-root/Arts_SoundServer /tmp/mcop-root/Arts_SimpleSoundServer /tmp/mcop-root/Arts_PlayObjectFactory /tmp/mcop-root/Arts_AudioManager mcop warning: user defined signal handler found for SIG_PIPE, overriding kwin: it looks like there's already a window manager running. kwin not started. DCOP aborting call from 'anonymous-28384' to 'kdesktop' ERROR: KUniqueApplication: DCOP communication error! KCrash: crashing crashRecursionCounter = 2 KCrash: Application Name = kicker path = unknown pid = 28534 DCOP aborting call from 'anonymous-28525' to 'kicker' ERROR: KUniqueApplication: DCOP communication error! ERROR: KUniqueApplication: Registering failed! ERROR: KUniqueApplication: DCOP communication error! QObject::connect: No such slot KWrited::block_in(const char*,int) QObject::connect: (sender name: 'unnamed') QObject::connect: (receiver name: 'unnamed') ICE default IO error handler doing an exit(), pid = 28607, errno = 0 ICE default IO error handler doing an exit(), pid = 28705, errno = 0 ICE default IO error handler doing an exit(), pid = 28056, errno = 0 ICE default IO error handler doing an exit(), pid = 27691, errno = 0 ICE default IO error handler doing an exit(), pid = 27684, errno = 2 kdeinit: Communication error with launcher. Exiting! -- * * Registered Linux User Number 185956 http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=ensafe=offgroup=linux 11:29pm up 113 days, 4:38, 5 users, load average: 0.01, 0.03, 0.00 ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
USB-Storage issue
Ok, SO I spoke to soon. It appears my lockup problem was being caused by the USB device itself. Sorry for the bandwidth. I have both modules installed now and no problem. The card reader has been removed and will be returned to the vendor.. Any suggestions for a unit that might actually work? It'd be nice if it had Compact Flash and SanDisk capability in a single unit but no necessary stayler ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: USB-Storage issue
Speaking of this subject, does anyone know if you can boot off a USB Hard drive? Like a thumb-drive? That would be the ultimate mini-distro target. begin stayler [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Wed, 03 Jul 2002 21:07:02 -0700 (PDT)) Ok, SO I spoke to soon. It appears my lockup problem was being caused by the USB device itself. Sorry for the bandwidth. I have both modules installed now and no problem. The card reader has been removed and will be returned to the vendor.. Any suggestions for a unit that might actually work? It'd be nice if it had Compact Flash and SanDisk capability in a single unit but no necessary stayler ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL. -- Matthew Carpenter [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.e-i-s.cc/ Enterprise Information Systems *Network Consulting, Integration Support *Web Development and E-Business ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Installing updated glibc: Conflicts with old install
Well, I should know better, but: I can't get anything to download with my current version of gnutella. This is bad because I have realized I don't have a copy of The Man Who Shot Liberty Valence. So: I want to install a new version of gnutella but: I went to the web site and they recommend limewire which I downloaded but which: Requires a new version of Java which, which I downloaded but which: Requires an updated glibc.. (And then they wonder why windows is still popular on the desktop. What windows user would tolerate this for 3 seconds? Imagine just trying all these downloads on a telephone modem, rant, rant, rant.) Anyway, I downloaded the four libraries from the Caldera 2.4 current rpm's. They are: glibc-2.1.3-6.i386.rpm glibc-devel-2.1.3-6.i386.rpm glibc-devel-static-2.1.3-6.i386.rpm glibc-localedata-2.1.3-6.i386.rpm I assume these are all I need. When I tried to install the first one with rpm -i , I got zillions of conflicts with the prior installation of glibc. I am vaguely aware that glibc is important for the functioning of my computer, so I am not sure if I should just rpm -e those offending installed rpm's. I ran rpm -U glibc-localedata-2.1.3-6.i386.rpm and that seemed to work. Then, I tried rpm -U glibc-2.1.3-6.i386.rpm and got this: root@jhammer6 jlh]# rpm -U glibc-2.1.3-6.i386.rpm error: failed dependencies: glibc = 2.1.2 is needed by glibc-devel-2.1.2-3 My current version of glibc is : [root@jhammer6 jlh]# ls /lib/libc-* /lib/libc-2.1.2.so So, the new version says the old version needs a somewhat newer version of the old version. I am basically without a clue. Any insight appreciated. Just in case I have really hosed my system, I am not going to turn it off ever again. Thanks Joel ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: USB-Storage issue
On Thu, 4 Jul 2002 14:07, stayler wrote: Ok, SO I spoke to soon. It appears my lockup problem was being caused by the USB device itself. Sorry for the bandwidth. I have both modules installed now and no problem. The card reader has been removed and will be returned to the vendor.. Any suggestions for a unit that might actually work? It'd be nice if it had Compact Flash and SanDisk capability in a single unit but no necessary stayler Yes had that problem myself in the beggining, was told that it had to be Mass Storage Compat to work with linux, not all are. What I have at the moment is a Sandisk Imagemate (SDDR-31). I have a small convertor adaptor by FEIYA for the smartmedia cards -- Keith Antoine (GANDALF) aka 'skippy' 18 Arkana St, The Gap, Queensland 4061 Australia PH:61733002161 Retired Geriatric, Sometime Electronics Engineer, Knowall, Brain in storage ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
M$ and LInuxWorld
Why could she join a linux event when she's not selling anything related to linux??? -- may the force, the farce and linux be with you. See you in news://news.hkpcug.org and http://www.linux-sxs.org ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: xcdroast??
On Tue, 2 Jul 2002, Net Llama! wrote: On Mon, 1 Jul 2002, Keith Morse wrote: What I'd like to know is why cdrecord gets hung when doing a -scanbus on /dev/sg0? Isn't sg0 like a scanner or something similarly unrelated to CD burners? And things like tape library changers use /dev/sg* also. The sg module gets loaded as a requirement for the ide cdrom burner. On this RH 7.2 system, cdrom burning failed about 2 months ago for reasons unknown. cat /proc/scsi/scsi reveals, Host: scsi0 Channel: 00 Id: 02 Lun: 00 Vendor: HP Model: C1537A Rev: L706 Type: Sequential-AccessANSI SCSI revision: 02 Host: scsi1 Channel: 00 Id: 03 Lun: 00 Vendor: SONY Model: TSL-A300CRev: L107 Type: Sequential-AccessANSI SCSI revision: 02 Host: scsi1 Channel: 00 Id: 03 Lun: 01 Vendor: SONY Model: TSL-A300CRev: L107 Type: Medium Changer ANSI SCSI revision: 02 Host: scsi1 Channel: 00 Id: 04 Lun: 00 Vendor: HP Model: C1557A Rev: U709 Type: Sequential-AccessANSI SCSI revision: 02 Host: scsi1 Channel: 00 Id: 05 Lun: 00 Vendor: SEAGATE Model: AIT-LDR Rev: L1j8 Type: Sequential-AccessANSI SCSI revision: 02 Host: scsi3 Channel: 00 Id: 00 Lun: 00 Vendor: LG Model: CD-RW CED-8080B Rev: 1.06 Type: CD-ROM ANSI SCSI revision: 02 Host: scsi3 Channel: 00 Id: 01 Lun: 00 Vendor: LG Model: CD-ROM CRD-8521B Rev: 2.00 Type: CD-ROM ANSI SCSI revision: 02 And if I try, [root@ocelot root]# cdrecord -dd -scanbus dev=3,0,0 dev: 3,0,0 speed: 8 fs: 2097152 Cdrecord 1.10 (i686-pc-linux-gnu) Copyright (C) 1995-2001 Jörg Schilling TOC Type: 1 = CD-ROM scsidev: '3,0,0' scsibus: 3 target: 0 lun: 0 scg__open() 3,0,0 it will stay at that point. The process isn't hung as I can Ctrl-C to interrupt it. ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.