Re: United Linux: why MandrakeSoft will not join

2002-07-03 Thread Matthew Carpenter

Wow!  How did Mandrake fit into that listing?  That's too much fun.  Which
distros are MDK-based?  Lycoris?  Ooops, nope.  They're based on COL. 
uhh...  Pizza-Linux?  Peanut?  Nope, wrong again.  Darn.

On Tue, 2 Jul 2002 13:32:47 -0700
Tony Alfrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Tuesday 02 July 2002 01:02 pm,Net Llama! wrote:
  http://www.mandrakesoft.com/company/investors/bsa/faq2
 
 I found this remark which I snipped from the article (a Mandrake 
 manifesto IMHO) rather amusing:
 
 
 Before the Linux Standard Base, there was a de facto standardization 
 phenomenon. When studying the Linux distributions, it is clear that 
 most of them are based on Red Hat, Debian and Mandrake, which qualifies 
 them as de facto standards.
 
 
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Re: Caldera.com

2002-07-03 Thread David A. Bandel

On Tue, 2 Jul 2002 21:59:51 -0500
begin  ronnie gauthier [EMAIL PROTECTED] spewed forth:

 I've been having some periods of DNS nothingness off and on since late
 last night. No idea what is going on. It's been good since bout 3pm cst
 so i guess its back to normal(whatever that is?!?).
 

I've seen that problem here.  In my case it's always come down to someone
being down between me and the authoritative servers.

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Re: beat the rush!

2002-07-03 Thread Matthew Carpenter

Not me.  Any chance to better keep up with what you're writing is generally a Good 
Thing(tm) in my book.

begin  dep [EMAIL PROTECTED]
(Tue, 2 Jul 2002 12:21:26 -0400)

 if anyone is or was offended, i apologize.
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Linux Standards Base Certification Program

2002-07-03 Thread Collins

http://zdnet.com.com/2100-1104-941182.html

Certification prices run from $400 (about ?280) to $3,000.

I love it!  This is free software at its best!

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Re: Caldera.com

2002-07-03 Thread dep

begin  ronnie gauthier's  quote:
| I've been having some periods of DNS nothingness off and on since
| late last night. No idea what is going on. It's been good since
| bout 3pm cst so i guess its back to normal(whatever that is?!?).

http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/55/26002.html

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Re: Caldera.com

2002-07-03 Thread Keith Antoine

On Wed, 3 Jul 2002 09:44, Herb DeLong wrote:
 I tried to get on caldera.com web page but was told it can't be found. What
 happened?

Nothing as far as i can see i can get there from OZ.

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Re: United Linux: why MandrakeSoft will not join

2002-07-03 Thread Matthew Carpenter

Does anyone have a shovel?  These guys could use some help getting out...
getting their head out of the sand is going to be the most difficult part
of the rescue.  What threshold would they like crossed before admitting
that there is some splintering?  Ok.  So the splintering doesn't look
the same as it did for Unix, but the fact that you have to recompile for
each distro does spell SOME disaster... Oh, I forgot.  They don't DO their
own work, but build off of Red Hat.  Ooops.  I guess that's ONE way to
keep compatible.  Perhaps the other four should jump on the RH-base
bandwagon and give up this foolish shenanagan of making their own
distro-base.  Then again, maybe we don't WANT Linux to be in one basket...

On Tue, 2 Jul 2002 16:02:40 -0400 (EDT)
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 http://www.mandrakesoft.com/company/investors/bsa/faq2
 
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Re: United Linux: why MandrakeSoft will not join

2002-07-03 Thread Net Llama!

Matt, sorry, but i've got to call you on this.  First, what has to be
recomipiled for each distro?  Most binaries will happily run on just about
any distro released in the past 6 months.
Second, Mandrake stopped basing their distro on Redhat well over a year
ago.

That aside, sure Mandrake seem to be a bit overconfident in themselves,
but i don't know that is a bad thing.  I'm not the least bit convinced
that UnitedLinux has any chance of changing the futures of its
participants.  Mandrake seems to have finally found a business plan that
works for them.

On Wed, 3 Jul 2002, Matthew Carpenter wrote:
 Does anyone have a shovel?  These guys could use some help getting out...
 getting their head out of the sand is going to be the most difficult part
 of the rescue.  What threshold would they like crossed before admitting
 that there is some splintering?  Ok.  So the splintering doesn't look
 the same as it did for Unix, but the fact that you have to recompile for
 each distro does spell SOME disaster... Oh, I forgot.  They don't DO their
 own work, but build off of Red Hat.  Ooops.  I guess that's ONE way to
 keep compatible.  Perhaps the other four should jump on the RH-base
 bandwagon and give up this foolish shenanagan of making their own
 distro-base.  Then again, maybe we don't WANT Linux to be in one basket...

 On Tue, 2 Jul 2002 16:02:40 -0400 (EDT)
 Net Llama! [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  http://www.mandrakesoft.com/company/investors/bsa/faq2

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Vote for XFce

2002-07-03 Thread Net Llama!

-- Forwarded message --
Date: Wed, 03 Jul 2002 08:20:04 +0100
From: David Wijnants [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Vote for XFce

osnews is running a poll for your favourite Linux distribution and
window manager - and XFce is one of the options!

http://osnews.com/story.php?news_id=1299
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SanDisk and Linux

2002-07-03 Thread stayler

Hi Guys,

Just looking for some input.  Have any of you played around with the
small SanDisk SD card storage devices?  My Zaurus uses them and I would
like to transfer data using the 64M unit that is currently in use.  I
understand SD makes a USB adapter and I was curious if anyone has
fiddled around with such?

stayler

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Re: X fails

2002-07-03 Thread Richard R. Sivernell

On Tue, 02 Jul 2002 19:42:34 -0700
Net Llama! [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 rick, i think we need a bit more info to go on here.  it seems that X 
 isn't configured for remote display, perhaps?  or you're blocking port 6000?
 
Lonnie

   eServer 3.1.1  xfree 4.2 stock install. kernel 2.4.13,I think,
if I try to start gui with kdm  a black screen for a while, then it returns
to run level 3. If I try then, after login, startkde startxfce, startx

[root@Sivernell root]# startx
XFree86 Version 4.2.0 / X Window System
(protocol Version 11, revision 0, vendor release 6600)
Release Date: 18 January 2002
If the server is older than 6-12 months, or if your card is
newer than the above date, look for a newer version before
reporting problems.  (See http://www.XFree86.Org/)
Build Operating System: Linux 2.4.9-13smp i686 [ELF]
Module Loader present
Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting,
 (++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational,
 (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown.
(==) Log file: /var/log/XFree86.0.log, Time: Wed Jul  3 08:13:38 2002
(==) Using config file: /etc/X11/XF86Config-4


Fatal server error:

_LoaderFileToMem() read() failed: Input/output error


When reporting a problem related to a server crash, please send
the full server output, not just the last messages.
This can be found in the log file /var/log/XFree86.0.log.
Please report problems to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

XIO:  fatal IO error 104 (Connection reset by peer) on X server :0.0
  after 0 requests (0 known processed) with 0 events remaining.
[root@Sivernell root]#


[root@Sivernell root]# startxfce
/usr/bin/startxfce: X server already running on display :0.0
xsetroot:  unable to open display ':0.0'
xset:  unable to open display :0.0
xfwm message (type main): Error = can't open display :0.0
[root@Sivernell root]# xscreensaver: Can't open display: :0.0
xscreensaver: initial effective uid/gid was root/root (0/0)
xscreensaver: running as nobody/nobody (65534/65534)

xscreensaver: This is probably because you're logging in as root.  You
  shouldn't log in as root: you should log in as a normal user,
  and then `su' as needed.  If you insist on logging in as
  root, you will have to turn off X's security features before
  xscreensaver will work.

  Please read the manual and FAQ for more information:

  http://www.jwz.org/xscreensaver/faq.html
  http://www.jwz.org/xscreensaver/man.html


[root@Sivernell root]#

[root@Sivernell root]# startkde
xsetroot:  unable to open display ':0.0'
xset:  unable to open display :0.0
xset:  unable to open display :0.0
xset:  unable to open display :0.0
ksplash: cannot connect to X server :0.0
DCOPServer up and running.
kded: cannot connect to X server :0.0
DCOP aborting call from 'anonymous-1788' to 'kded'
ERROR: KUniqueApplication: DCOP communication error!
kdeinit: Can't connect to the X Server.
kdeinit: Might not terminate at end of session.
kcminit: cannot connect to X server :0.0
knotify: cannot connect to X server :0.0
ERROR: KUniqueApplication: Registering failed!
ERROR: KUniqueApplication: DCOP communication error!
ksmserver: cannot connect to X server :0.0
[root@Sivernell root]# hotpluguid: cannot connect to X server :0.0
ERROR: KUniqueApplication: Registering failed!
ERROR: KUniqueApplication: DCOP communication error!

[root@Sivernell root]#


If I login thru ssh or run at the actual machine the result is the same.

How would I check to see if port 6000 is being blocked 

Thanks  cheers
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Re: X fails

2002-07-03 Thread Net Llama!

On Tue, 2 Jul 2002, Richard R. Sivernell wrote:
 Fatal server error:

 _LoaderFileToMem() read() failed: Input/output error


 When reporting a problem related to a server crash, please send
 the full server output, not just the last messages.
 This can be found in the log file /var/log/XFree86.0.log.
 Please report problems to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 XIO:  fatal IO error 104 (Connection reset by peer) on X server :0.0
   after 0 requests (0 known processed) with 0 events remaining.

Right now, all that matters is the info above, specifically, that
LoaderFileToMem error, and XFree86.0.log.

What changed on your box prior to this problem?  I was under the
impression that XFree86-4.2.0 did *not* come with any Caldera release.  If
this is true, then how/when did you install it?

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Re: X fails

2002-07-03 Thread Richard R. Sivernell

Lonnie

   Correct, I did install it from the run level 3 command line source. It had the
same error
with 4.1 stock. I installed the system from a scratch, blank hd, and fresh
install of 3.1.1.

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Re: X fails

2002-07-03 Thread Jim Bonnet

Richard R. Sivernell wrote:
 Lonnie
 
Correct, I did install it from the run level 3 command line source. It had the
 same error
 with 4.1 stock. I installed the system from a scratch, blank hd, and fresh
 install of 3.1.1.
 

Do you think there is something wrong with the XF86Config file? Maybe 
some bogus characters or something in there?

This error comes form the X binary and a google search reveals some 
information about this error.. but nothing that says, here.. fix me this 
way. Myabe strace -o foo -f X and see where the IO error is comming from?

Maybe something to try.
Jim


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Re: X fails

2002-07-03 Thread Jim Bonnet

Here is what the function does-- so seems like X cant open some file or 
read it correctly...

/*
  * _LoaderFileToMem() loads the contents of a file into memory using
  * the most efficient method for a platform.
*/

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Re: X fails

2002-07-03 Thread Richard R. Sivernell

On Wed, 03 Jul 2002 07:43:54 -0700
Jim Bonnet [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Richard R. Sivernell wrote:
  Lonnie
  
 Correct, I did install it from the run level 3 command line source. It had
 the
  same error
  with 4.1 stock. I installed the system from a scratch, blank hd, and fresh
  install of 3.1.1.
  
 
 Do you think there is something wrong with the XF86Config file? Maybe 
 some bogus characters or something in there?
 
 This error comes form the X binary and a google search reveals some 
 information about this error.. but nothing that says, here.. fix me this 
 way. Myabe strace -o foo -f X and see where the IO error is comming from?
 
 Maybe something to try.
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Checked the XF86Config-4 on 2 systems and they are the same. common monitor
keyboard mouse. thru switch. The 2 systems have the same video cards too.
-- cheers
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Re: X fails

2002-07-03 Thread David A. Bandel

On Tue, 2 Jul 2002 08:43:09 -0500
begin  Richard R. Sivernell [EMAIL PROTECTED] spewed forth:

 List
 
rstart Sivernell xfwm
connection refused
 
What has refused connection the display. Dispaly is set 0.0

perhaps xauth is getting in the way?

try changing your display variable from :0.0 to LOCALHOST:0.0 or
$HOSTNAME:0.0

[snip]

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Re: Vote for XFce

2002-07-03 Thread David A. Bandel

On Wed, 3 Jul 2002 09:09:33 -0400 (EDT)
begin  Net Llama! [EMAIL PROTECTED] spewed forth:

 http://osnews.com/story.php?news_id=1299


Whoa!  Where are all the Blackbox users hiding?  I though I was much more
in the minority.

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Re: United Linux: why MandrakeSoft will not join

2002-07-03 Thread Lee

Disagree. Been using Mandrake 8.0 ever since the Great Caldera Insult of
99. Tried 8.1 but it suffers from the same disease as most other new
releases in that the floppy and cdrom are not accessible from the
desktop or  from the command line either. But, I have been using
Mandrake long enough to know that it is not a Red Hat Clone. I've
downloaded too many Red Hat RPMs and tarballs that wouldn't install due
to configuration differences to believe that.

A second point is why would Mandrake want to join SuSE and the three
bears? Like Red Hat they're on the verge of making a profit. With their
two year contract with the French government to de-MicroSoft French
Government computers they might just succeed in pushing M$ out of
France. By joining Caldera's latest harebrained scheme they would just
make it easier to be invaded by other Linux distributors on  their own
French turf. 

Then there is this great bug-a-boo of splintering. So what? That's what
Linux is all about. The only unsplintered OS around is M$. I don't hear
too many suggestions that that is the ideal that Linux should strive
for. The truth is that Linux is by it's very nature supposed to be
splintered. It is supposed to be driven by thousands of developers both
professional and non professional who design and redesign it. Linux has
not lost market share because of any splinter effect. No matter how hard
that makes the job of system administrator the business consumer doesn't
care. To most of them the system administer is the little man you don't
see. If he has to tie the system together with bailing wire and rags so
what as long as it works. Linux has done so poorly because they have
never really tried to market their product. When was the last time you
saw a commercial or newspaper ad for Mandrake, Red Hat, SuSe, Caldera or
anyone other than an IBM ad. Right now Apple is running ads all over the
tv networks pushing their computers (so they claim) over windows powered
pcs. That's called marketing.

Then there is the problem if this United Harebrain concept succeeds? We
end up with one desktop and all the current Linux distributors become
little more than venders of Linux optional software with the only
difference being the games provided, office, whether you get Sand or
cdroast a cd player or a cd player and an MP3 player qview or bitmap.
Before very long you're going to end up with one Linux desktop. As for
system; yes that would solve a lot of hard work. But come on, you guys
are paid to do the work. It's the reason for your existence. Simplify it
too much and it's replace time with a cousin Orville who flunked out of
second grade, but does have enough smarts to turn the server on in the
morning and off in the evening and has the telephone number of repair
shop when it crashes. Then there is the biggy. You can hand build a
Linux server system by taking pieces from the net and other distros to
meet the client's needs. Try that with M$ or UnitedLinux whose latest
release has a hugh hole in it that wouldn't be fix until the next
release in 18 months.

Lee





Matthew Carpenter wrote:
 
 Does anyone have a shovel?  These guys could use some help getting out...
 getting their head out of the sand is going to be the most difficult part
 of the rescue.  What threshold would they like crossed before admitting
 that there is some splintering?  Ok.  So the splintering doesn't look
 the same as it did for Unix, but the fact that you have to recompile for
 each distro does spell SOME disaster... Oh, I forgot.  They don't DO their
 own work, but build off of Red Hat.  Ooops.  I guess that's ONE way to
 keep compatible.  Perhaps the other four should jump on the RH-base
 bandwagon and give up this foolish shenanagan of making their own
 distro-base.  Then again, maybe we don't WANT Linux to be in one basket...
 
 On Tue, 2 Jul 2002 16:02:40 -0400 (EDT)
 Net Llama! [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  http://www.mandrakesoft.com/company/investors/bsa/faq2
 
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Re: X fails

2002-07-03 Thread Net Llama!

So at what point did it last work?  What have you change since it last
worked?

On Tue, 2 Jul 2002, Richard R. Sivernell wrote:
 Lonnie

Correct, I did install it from the run level 3 command line source. It had the
 same error
 with 4.1 stock. I installed the system from a scratch, blank hd, and fresh
 install of 3.1.1.



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Re: X fails

2002-07-03 Thread Net Llama!

On Wed, 3 Jul 2002, Richard R. Sivernell wrote:
 On Wed, 03 Jul 2002 07:43:54 -0700
 Jim Bonnet [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Richard R. Sivernell wrote:
   Lonnie
  
  Correct, I did install it from the run level 3 command line source. It had
  the
   same error
   with 4.1 stock. I installed the system from a scratch, blank hd, and fresh
   install of 3.1.1.
  
 
  Do you think there is something wrong with the XF86Config file? Maybe
  some bogus characters or something in there?
 
  This error comes form the X binary and a google search reveals some
  information about this error.. but nothing that says, here.. fix me this
  way. Myabe strace -o foo -f X and see where the IO error is comming from?
 
  Maybe something to try.
  Jim

 Checked the XF86Config-4 on 2 systems and they are the same. common monitor
 keyboard mouse. thru switch. The 2 systems have the same video cards too.
 -- cheers

Im' wondering if its the videocard.  Can you try swapping it out?

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Fw: Announcing a beta release of Red Hat Linux: Limbo

2002-07-03 Thread Mike Chambers

For those interested..

Mike

- Original Message -
From: Bill Nottingham [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, July 03, 2002 1:08 PM
Subject: Announcing a beta release of Red Hat Linux: Limbo


 A formless gray void shifts around you. You feel neither pleasure
 nor pain; mainly a sense of waiting. Other souls similarly confused
 shuffle aimlessly about. What do you do now? Where do you go from here?

 Welcome to LIMBO, a new beta release of Red Hat Linux.

 LIMBO includes, but is not limited to:
   - the latest desktop technology
   - gcc-3.1
   - Mozilla 1.0+
   - OpenOffice 1.0
   - and much much more

 Such beta software as LIMBO is not intended for use on mission critical
 or production systems. Use on such systems could lead to loss of uptime,
 data, money, employment, or sentience.

 Remember, if it breaks, you get to keep all 1491 pieces.

 Problems with LIMBO should be reported via bugzilla, at:

   http://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/

 As always, you can find LIMBO at redhat.com. Specifically:

  ftp://ftp.redhat.com/pub/redhat/linux/beta/limbo/

 or, at the following mirrors:

 North America:
  - ftp://redhat.dulug.duke.edu/pub/redhat/linux/beta/limbo/ (http and also
rsync access)
  -
ftp://carroll.aset.psu.edu/pub/linux/distributions/redhat/redhat/linux/beta/
limbo/
  - ftp://ftp.cse.buffalo.edu/pub/Linux/redhat/redhat/linux/beta/limbo/
  - ftp://mirror.hiwaay.net/redhat/redhat/linux/beta/limbo/
  - ftp://limestone.uoregon.edu/redhat/beta/limbo/
  - ftp://ftp.shuttleamerica.com/pub/mirrors/redhat/linux/beta/limbo/ (also
rsync access)
  - ftp://mirror.cs.princeton.edu/pub/mirrors/redhat/linux/beta/limbo/

 Europe:
  - ftp://ftp.tu-chemnitz.de/pub/linux/redhat-ftp/redhat/linux/beta/limbo/
  - ftp://ftp.linux.cz/pub/linux/redhat/linux/beta/limbo/
  - ftp://alviss.et.tudelft.nl/pub/redhat/linux/beta/limbo/
  - ftp://ftp.nluug.nl/site/ftp.redhat.com/redhat/linux/beta/limbo/
  - ftp://gd.tuwien.ac.at/pub/linux/redhat.com/dist/linux/beta/limbo/ (http
and also rsync access)
  -
ftp://sunsite.mff.cuni.cz/MIRRORS/ftp.redhat.com/redhat/linux/beta/limbo/
(also rsync access)
  - ftp://ftp.uni-bayreuth.de/pub/redhat/linux/beta/limbo/

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Re: United Linux: why MandrakeSoft will not join

2002-07-03 Thread bof

Lee wrote:

Then there is this great bug-a-boo of splintering. So what? That's what
Linux is all about. The only unsplintered OS around is M$. 

And just how unsplintered is a company that offers

DOS
Windows 95
Windows 98
Windows 98SE
Windows ME
Windows NT
Windows 2000
Windows XP

in various versions of each?

At least the core of Linux is still the Linus kernel. g



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Re: X fails

2002-07-03 Thread Richard R. Sivernell

On Wed, 3 Jul 2002 13:09:37 -0500
David A. Bandel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Tue, 2 Jul 2002 08:43:09 -0500
 begin  Richard R. Sivernell [EMAIL PROTECTED] spewed forth:
 
  List
  
 rstart Sivernell xfwm
 connection refused
  
 What has refused connection the display. Dispaly is set 0.0
 
 perhaps xauth is getting in the way?
 
 try changing your display variable from :0.0 to LOCALHOST:0.0 or
 $HOSTNAME:0.0
 
 [snip]
 
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David no go .Xaut has 0 len put the $HOSTNAME in DISPLAY in /etc/profile

still no go can not open displayctrl-alt-backspace does nothing.
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Re: United Linux: why MandrakeSoft will not join

2002-07-03 Thread Lee

Not defending M$, only a point of view. First Win 95, 98. ME are
basically the same distro, from the same company released about every
2-3yrs. Something like Mandrake 7.2, 8.0. 8.1,8.2 ect. What runs on Win
95 generally runs on Win 98 and even ME. The Nt based distros (nt4,
2000, XP) are similar but not identical as hardware and software
developers are a little more reluctant to make drivers for the different
Windows NT distros, so M$ has to do a little work on its own and write
drivers, many of which don't work. But that doesn't change the fact that
Windows, with all its bugs and crap. is basically unsplintered. It is
also rigid and incapable of doing anything Bill Gates didn't design into
it. It can not be modified in the field. This quest for unsplintering is
not something that Linux should strive for. If you don't like Mandrake
8.0 load 8.1, 8.2 or SuSE 7.2 or 8.0, or RH 7.1, 7.2 ect. There is
always an option. If there is an option on one distro that you want to
run in a different distro it is not impossible to lift it and recompile.
That's something you can't do with Windows. As for the all perfect
United distro (even it's not marked on the desktop box) Windows provides
an excellent example of what can happen. XP was their new bigger'
better, with larger chrome strips release and it's fallen on it's face.
Not because it's crap (the average Windows user wouldn't know that) but
because the consumer has decided that it is not necessary. My Win 95 OS
does everything I want it to do and I have all the bugs worked out of it
Why do I need to spend $200 for XP? Do you really think the same thing
can't happen with UnitedLinux?

Lee 




box wrote:
 
 Lee wrote:
 
 Then there is this great bug-a-boo of splintering. So what? That's what
 Linux is all about. The only unsplintered OS around is M$.
 
 And just how unsplintered is a company that offers
 
 DOS
 Windows 95
 Windows 98
 Windows 98SE
 Windows ME
 Windows NT
 Windows 2000
 Windows XP
 
 in various versions of each?
 
 At least the core of Linux is still the Linus kernel. g
 
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Re: X fails

2002-07-03 Thread Richard R. Sivernell

On Wed, 03 Jul 2002 11:20:04 -0700
Jim Bonnet [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Checked the XF86Config-4 on 2 systems and they are the same. common
  monitor
  keyboard mouse. thru switch. The 2 systems have the same video cards too.
 
 what did strace show?? Some file can load into memory because of an IO 
 error..
 
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 strace output
[pid   896] socket(PF_UNIX, SOCK_STREAM, 0) = 4
[pid   896] connect(4, {sin_family=AF_UNIX, path=/var/run/.nscd_socket}, 110) =
0
[pid   896] write(4, \2\0\0\0\4\0\0\0\30\0\0\0, 12) = 12
[pid   896] write(4, Sivernell.sivernell.net\0, 24) = 24
[pid   896] read(4, \0\0\0\0\1\0\0\0\30\0\0\0\1\0\0\0\2\0\0\0\4\0\0\0\1\0\0...,
32) = 32
[pid   896] readv(4, [{Sivernell.sivernell.net\0, 24}, {\n\0\0\0, 4},
{\300\250\1(, 4}], 3) = 32
[pid   896] read(4, Sivernell\0, 10)  = 10
[pid   896] close(4)= 0
[pid   896] setsockopt(3, SOL_SOCKET, SO_KEEPALIVE, [1], 4) = 0
[pid   896] connect(3, {sin_family=AF_INET, sin_port=htons(6000),
sin_addr=inet_addr(192.168.1.40)}}, 16) = -1 ECONNREFUSED
   (Connection refused)  
   
[pid   896] close(3)= 0
[pid   896] rt_sigprocmask(SIG_BLOCK, [CHLD], [], 8) = 0
[pid   896] rt_sigaction(SIGCHLD, NULL, {SIG_DFL}, 8) = 0
[pid   896] rt_sigprocmask(SIG_SETMASK, [], NULL, 8) = 0
[pid   896] nanosleep({1, 0},  unfinished ...
[pid   901] getpid()= 901
[pid   901] close(255)  = 0

found this in portsentry.conf
###
# Port Configurations #
###
#
#
# Some example port configs for classic and basic Stealth modes
#
# I like to always keep some ports at the low end of the spectrum.
# This will detect a sequential port sweep really quickly and usually
# these ports are not in use (i.e. tcpmux port 1)
#
# ** X-Windows Users **: If you are running X on your box, you need to be sure
# you are not binding PortSentry to port 6000 (or port 2000 for OpenWindows
# users). Doing so will prevent the X-client from starting properly.
#
# These port bindings are *ignored* for Advanced Stealth Scan Detection Mode.
#

# Un-comment these if you are really anal:
#TCP_PORTS=1,7,9,11,15,70,79,80,109,110,111,119,138,139,143,512,513,514,515,540
#,635,
 
1080,1524,2000,2001,4000,4001,5742,6000,6001,6667,12345,12346,20034,30303,32771,
32772,
  32773,32774,31337,40421,40425,49724,54320
#UDP_PORTS=1,7,9,66,67,68,69,111,137,138,161,162,474,513,517,518,635,640,641,66
#6,700,
2049,32770,32771,32772,32773,32774,31337,54321
#

  
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Re: X fails

2002-07-03 Thread Richard R. Sivernell

Lonnie

This is a fresh install of 3.1.1, All hardware has worked flawlessly on
Solaris 8
and peanut linux  caldera 3.1. This problem is from Install of 3.1.1

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Re: Fw: Announcing a beta release of Red Hat Linux: Limbo

2002-07-03 Thread Andrew Mathews

Mike Chambers wrote:
 For those interested..
 
 Mike
snip

Welcome to LIMBO, a new beta release of Red Hat Linux.

snip

Thanks Mike.
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Re: Fw: Announcing a beta release of Red Hat Linux: Limbo

2002-07-03 Thread Collins

On Wed, 3 Jul 2002 14:35:20 -0500 Mike Chambers [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
 For those interested..
 
 Mike
 
 - Original Message -
 From: Bill Nottingham [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, July 03, 2002 1:08 PM
 Subject: Announcing a beta release of Red Hat Linux: Limbo
 

  Welcome to LIMBO, a new beta release of Red Hat Linux.
 

Thanks for the chuckle; almost as good as the M$ CEMeNT release!

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Re: X fails

2002-07-03 Thread Jim Bonnet

Richard R. Sivernell wrote:
 On Wed, 03 Jul 2002 11:20:04 -0700
 Jim Bonnet [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 
Checked the XF86Config-4 on 2 systems and they are the same. common
monitor
keyboard mouse. thru switch. The 2 systems have the same video cards too.

what did strace show?? Some file can load into memory because of an IO 
error..

-jim

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  strace output
 [pid   896] socket(PF_UNIX, SOCK_STREAM, 0) = 4
 [pid   896] connect(4, {sin_family=AF_UNIX, path=/var/run/.nscd_socket}, 110) =
 0
 [pid   896] write(4, \2\0\0\0\4\0\0\0\30\0\0\0, 12) = 12
 [pid   896] write(4, Sivernell.sivernell.net\0, 24) = 24
 [pid   896] read(4, \0\0\0\0\1\0\0\0\30\0\0\0\1\0\0\0\2\0\0\0\4\0\0\0\1\0\0...,
 32) = 32
 [pid   896] readv(4, [{Sivernell.sivernell.net\0, 24}, {\n\0\0\0, 4},
 {\300\250\1(, 4}], 3) = 32
 [pid   896] read(4, Sivernell\0, 10)  = 10
 [pid   896] close(4)= 0
 [pid   896] setsockopt(3, SOL_SOCKET, SO_KEEPALIVE, [1], 4) = 0
 [pid   896] connect(3, {sin_family=AF_INET, sin_port=htons(6000),
 sin_addr=inet_addr(192.168.1.40)}}, 16) = -1 ECONNREFUSED
(Connection refused)  

 [pid   896] close(3)= 0
 [pid   896] rt_sigprocmask(SIG_BLOCK, [CHLD], [], 8) = 0
 [pid   896] rt_sigaction(SIGCHLD, NULL, {SIG_DFL}, 8) = 0
 [pid   896] rt_sigprocmask(SIG_SETMASK, [], NULL, 8) = 0
 [pid   896] nanosleep({1, 0},  unfinished ...
 [pid   901] getpid()= 901
 [pid   901] close(255)  = 0
 
 found this in portsentry.conf
 ###
 # Port Configurations #
 ###
 #
 #
 # Some example port configs for classic and basic Stealth modes
 #
 # I like to always keep some ports at the low end of the spectrum.
 # This will detect a sequential port sweep really quickly and usually
 # these ports are not in use (i.e. tcpmux port 1)
 #
 # ** X-Windows Users **: If you are running X on your box, you need to be sure
 # you are not binding PortSentry to port 6000 (or port 2000 for OpenWindows
 # users). Doing so will prevent the X-client from starting properly.
 #
 # These port bindings are *ignored* for Advanced Stealth Scan Detection Mode.
 #
 
 # Un-comment these if you are really anal:
 #TCP_PORTS=1,7,9,11,15,70,79,80,109,110,111,119,138,139,143,512,513,514,515,540
 #,635,
  
 1080,1524,2000,2001,4000,4001,5742,6000,6001,6667,12345,12346,20034,30303,32771,
 32772,
   32773,32774,31337,40421,40425,49724,54320
 #UDP_PORTS=1,7,9,66,67,68,69,111,137,138,161,162,474,513,517,518,635,640,641,66
 #6,700,
 2049,32770,32771,32772,32773,32774,31337,54321
 #
 
   

Well it sure looks to me like something in the network is broken. Can 
you telnet to localhost port 6000?

strange problem..



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Re: X fails

2002-07-03 Thread David A. Bandel

On Wed, 3 Jul 2002 04:10:48 -0500
begin  Richard R. Sivernell [EMAIL PROTECTED] spewed forth:

 On Wed, 3 Jul 2002 13:09:37 -0500
 David A. Bandel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  On Tue, 2 Jul 2002 08:43:09 -0500
  begin  Richard R. Sivernell [EMAIL PROTECTED] spewed forth:
  
   List
   
  rstart Sivernell xfwm
  connection refused
   
  What has refused connection the display. Dispaly is set 0.0

[snip]

OK, I'm not following.  What is rstart?  The remote host is Sivernell? 
And you want to run xfwm on it?  Is X running?  How did you start it?  Did
you use -ac?

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Re: X fails

2002-07-03 Thread Jim Bonnet

 OK, I'm not following.  What is rstart?  The remote host is Sivernell? 
 And you want to run xfwm on it?  Is X running?  How did you start it?  Did
 you use -ac?
 
 Ciao,
 
 David A. Bandel

ack.. good point.. you are probably right, here I was thinking this is a 
local connection.

Jim

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Re: X fails

2002-07-03 Thread Richard R. Sivernell

David

This is a fresh install of eServer 3.1.1 on a hd. CL is the
only thing to work. X does not start DISPALY 0.0 is in use but
port 6k can not be used. Ihave tried a varied amount of things
suggested by others  all failed. Currently running at runlevel 3.
startx startxfce or any other fails. 

  I would like to find out more of the operation of X startup.

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ranking of distros by service

2002-07-03 Thread Collins

I've been pretty much stuck on one distro for a long time, and I've
followed the user group almost since inception.  Other than Mandrake a
few years back and Caldera before that, I haven't followed other
distros that closely.

I'm just curious what your responses from various distros has been
with respect to reported problems and resolution of same.

With my current distro, there's a very short turn around time between
opening a bugzilla and finding it closed - a few hours to a few days.

On the other hand, since this distro doesn't have a beta phase (it's
sort of a continuous beta) and new releases with content that is
radically different from what the current users are running, so maybe
all the bugs with the other distros are solved in beta.

Curious mand wants to know.

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Re: X fails

2002-07-03 Thread David A. Bandel

On Wed, 3 Jul 2002 08:40:15 -0500
begin  Richard R. Sivernell [EMAIL PROTECTED] spewed forth:

 David
 
 This is a fresh install of eServer 3.1.1 on a hd. CL is the
 only thing to work. X does not start DISPALY 0.0 is in use but
 port 6k can not be used. Ihave tried a varied amount of things
 suggested by others  all failed. Currently running at runlevel 3.
 startx startxfce or any other fails. 
 


OK, try this command:


startx -- :1

(that's startx space dash dash space colon one)

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Re: X fails

2002-07-03 Thread Richard R. Sivernell

On Wed, 03 Jul 2002 17:25:34 -0700
Jim Bonnet [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Richard R. Sivernell wrote:
  On Wed, 03 Jul 2002 11:20:04 -0700
  Jim Bonnet [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
  
 Checked the XF86Config-4 on 2 systems and they are the same. common
 monitor
 keyboard mouse. thru switch. The 2 systems have the same video cards too.
 
 what did strace show?? Some file can load into memory because of an IO 
 error..
 
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  Jim
  
   strace output
  [pid   896] socket(PF_UNIX, SOCK_STREAM, 0) = 4
  [pid   896] connect(4, {sin_family=AF_UNIX, path=/var/run/.nscd_socket},
  110) = 0
  [pid   896] write(4, \2\0\0\0\4\0\0\0\30\0\0\0, 12) = 12
  [pid   896] write(4, Sivernell.sivernell.net\0, 24) = 24
  [pid   896] read(4,
  \0\0\0\0\1\0\0\0\30\0\0\0\1\0\0\0\2\0\0\0\4\0\0\0\1\0\0..., 32) = 32
  [pid   896] readv(4, [{Sivernell.sivernell.net\0, 24}, {\n\0\0\0, 4},
  {\300\250\1(, 4}], 3) = 32
  [pid   896] read(4, Sivernell\0, 10)  = 10
  [pid   896] close(4)= 0
  [pid   896] setsockopt(3, SOL_SOCKET, SO_KEEPALIVE, [1], 4) = 0
  [pid   896] connect(3, {sin_family=AF_INET, sin_port=htons(6000),
  sin_addr=inet_addr(192.168.1.40)}}, 16) = -1 ECONNREFUSED
 (Connection refused)  

 
  [pid   896] close(3)= 0
  [pid   896] rt_sigprocmask(SIG_BLOCK, [CHLD], [], 8) = 0
  [pid   896] rt_sigaction(SIGCHLD, NULL, {SIG_DFL}, 8) = 0
  [pid   896] rt_sigprocmask(SIG_SETMASK, [], NULL, 8) = 0
  [pid   896] nanosleep({1, 0},  unfinished ...
  [pid   901] getpid()= 901
  [pid   901] close(255)  = 0
  
  found this in portsentry.conf
  ###
  # Port Configurations #
  ###
  #
  #
  # Some example port configs for classic and basic Stealth modes
  #
  # I like to always keep some ports at the low end of the spectrum.
  # This will detect a sequential port sweep really quickly and usually
  # these ports are not in use (i.e. tcpmux port 1)
  #
  # ** X-Windows Users **: If you are running X on your box, you need to be
  # sure you are not binding PortSentry to port 6000 (or port 2000 for
  # OpenWindows users). Doing so will prevent the X-client from starting
  # properly.
  #
  # These port bindings are *ignored* for Advanced Stealth Scan Detection Mode.
  #
  
  # Un-comment these if you are really anal:
  #TCP_PORTS=1,7,9,11,15,70,79,80,109,110,111,119,138,139,143,512,513,514,515
  #,540,635,
   
  1080,1524,2000,2001,4000,4001,5742,6000,6001,6667,12345,12346,20034,30303,32
  771, 32772,
32773,32774,31337,40421,40425,49724,54320
  #UDP_PORTS=1,7,9,66,67,68,69,111,137,138,161,162,474,513,517,518,635,640,64
  #1,66 6,700,
  2049,32770,32771,32772,32773,32774,31337,54321
  #
  

 
 Well it sure looks to me like something in the network is broken. Can 
 you telnet to localhost port 6000?
 
 strange problem..
 
 
 
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telnet localhost 6000
   connection refused

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Re: SanDisk and Linux

2002-07-03 Thread Keith Antoine

On Wed, 3 Jul 2002 23:42, stayler wrote:
 Hi Guys,

 Just looking for some input.  Have any of you played around with the
 small SanDisk SD card storage devices?  My Zaurus uses them and I would
 like to transfer data using the 64M unit that is currently in use.  I
 understand SD makes a USB adapter and I was curious if anyone has
 fiddled around with such?

 stayler

Now Shaun, you know I had one of those attached to my computer when you were 
here. Mine is a dual Sandisk reader for smartmedia and also Compactflash2 . 
So anything else will be recognised so long as its USB mas storage compat.

Initializing USB Mass Storage driver...
usb.c: registered new driver usb-storage
USB Mass Storage support registered.

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Re: United Linux: why MandrakeSoft will not join

2002-07-03 Thread Matthew Carpenter

Sorry.  I guess that's coming from the fact that I haven't kept up lately.  I didn't 
realize MDK was separate from RH, nor did I realize that I wasn't still tied to the 
barrel by choosing COL...  I guess I got so used to rolling my own RPM's since 
CheckInstall came out that I never thought to try anything else.  On the same note, I 
just recently was having troubles with my favorite Audio editor, Audacity, and when I 
followed the request of the developer to install their RPM's, everything worked.  I 
thought I got off easy, seeing as I had forgotten the goat and my sacrificial blade 
was extra dull anyway.  So you're saying that on COL311, I should be able to run most 
current RPM's?  Woo Hoo!  I thought Heaven was waiting for me to die!

Thanks, Llama.  You made my day!

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 Most binaries will happily run on just about
 any distro released in the past 6 months.
 Second, Mandrake stopped basing their distro on Redhat well over a year
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Re: X fails

2002-07-03 Thread Richard R. Sivernell

MR. BANDEL

OH Mighty one , oh Master of Linux  Guru of Gurus.
Well , I found the - problem libxie.a was bad. Your last 
suggestion pointed out a little more clearly or it just it me 
in the face.  Replaced with one on my other running machine
and all is well.

Thanks to you Lonnie Jim and all others.

cheers

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Re: SanDisk and Linux

2002-07-03 Thread stayler

Hey Skippy,

So what did you do to get usb-storage to not totally lock up your
system?  I've tried 2 builds and a few different configs and it locks
up tight as a drum every time!

I've been searching all over googfle for clues but not a one

So Gandalf, lay some of that major mojo on me mate

stayler

On Thu, 4 Jul 2002 12:19:02 +1000, Keith Antoine wrote:


Now Shaun, you know I had one of those attached to my computer when you were 
here. Mine is a dual Sandisk reader for smartmedia and also Compactflash2 . 
So anything else will be recognised so long as its USB mas storage compat.

Initializing USB Mass Storage driver...
usb.c: registered new driver usb-storage
USB Mass Storage support registered.

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Re: SanDisk and Linux

2002-07-03 Thread stayler

BTW my reader is an ACOMDATA multi car unit. it does MMC/SD/SM/CF/MS 
in 4 different slots.
Thje USB module recognizes a device but nothing appears in
/proc/bus/usb the directory stays empty.  And of course usb-storage
just hangs the whole yste, forcing a hard reset.

stayler

On Thu, 4 Jul 2002 12:19:02 +1000, Keith Antoine wrote:


Now Shaun, you know I had one of those attached to my computer when you were 
here. Mine is a dual Sandisk reader for smartmedia and also Compactflash2 . 
So anything else will be recognised so long as its USB mas storage compat.

Initializing USB Mass Storage driver...
usb.c: registered new driver usb-storage
USB Mass Storage support registered.

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Re: United Linux: why MandrakeSoft will not join

2002-07-03 Thread Shawn L Johnston

On Tuesday 02 July 2002 03:32 pm, you wrote:
 I found this remark which I snipped from the article (a Mandrake
 manifesto IMHO) rather amusing:


 Before the Linux Standard Base, there was a de facto standardization
 phenomenon. When studying the Linux distributions, it is clear that
 most of them are based on Red Hat, Debian and Mandrake, which qualifies
 them as de facto standards.

I thought more portent was their remark a little further down:

It is extremely hard for us to understand why some software publishers   
and hardware manufacturers only support one Linux distribution.


Shawn
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kde 3.02 troubles...

2002-07-03 Thread Jerry McBride

Anyone on here have any success with kde 3.02? I've managed to compile the
source without any problems, but getting it to run is another story...

I'm getting these errors ;')

From the traceback...

(no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)...
(no debugging symbols found)...[New Thread 1024 (LWP 21854)]
0x40fb3c99 in __wait4 () from /lib/libc.so.6
#0  0x40fb3c99 in __wait4 () from /lib/libc.so.6
#1  0x4102bbf0 in __DTOR_END__ () from /lib/libc.so.6
#2  0x40e7538a in waitpid () from /lib/libpthread.so.0
#3  0x4067028f in KCrash::defaultCrashHandler ()
   from /opt/kde3/lib/libkdecore.so.4
#4  0x40e72e64 in pthread_sighandler () from /lib/libpthread.so.0
#5  signal handler called


From the console...

DCOPServer up and running.
There are already artsd objects registered, looking if they are active...
Mutex destroy failure: Device or resource busy

Error: Can't add object reference (probably artsd is already running).
   If you are sure it is not already running, remove the relevant
files:

   /tmp/mcop-root/Arts_SoundServerV2
   /tmp/mcop-root/Arts_SoundServer
   /tmp/mcop-root/Arts_SimpleSoundServer
   /tmp/mcop-root/Arts_PlayObjectFactory
   /tmp/mcop-root/Arts_AudioManager

mcop warning: user defined signal handler found for SIG_PIPE, overriding
kwin: it looks like there's already a window manager running. kwin not
started.
DCOP aborting call from 'anonymous-28384' to 'kdesktop'
ERROR: KUniqueApplication: DCOP communication error!
KCrash: crashing crashRecursionCounter = 2
KCrash: Application Name = kicker path = unknown pid = 28534
DCOP aborting call from 'anonymous-28525' to 'kicker'
ERROR: KUniqueApplication: DCOP communication error!
ERROR: KUniqueApplication: Registering failed!
ERROR: KUniqueApplication: DCOP communication error!
QObject::connect: No such slot KWrited::block_in(const char*,int)
QObject::connect:  (sender name:   'unnamed')
QObject::connect:  (receiver name: 'unnamed')
ICE default IO error handler doing an exit(), pid = 28607, errno = 0
ICE default IO error handler doing an exit(), pid = 28705, errno = 0
ICE default IO error handler doing an exit(), pid = 28056, errno = 0
ICE default IO error handler doing an exit(), pid = 27691, errno = 0
ICE default IO error handler doing an exit(), pid = 27684, errno = 2
kdeinit: Communication error with launcher. Exiting!




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USB-Storage issue

2002-07-03 Thread stayler

Ok,

SO I spoke to soon.  It appears my lockup problem was being caused by
the USB device itself.  Sorry for the bandwidth.

I have both modules installed now and no problem.  The card reader has
been removed and will be returned to the vendor..  

Any suggestions for a unit that might actually work?  It'd be nice if
it had Compact Flash and SanDisk capability in a single unit but no
necessary

stayler

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Re: USB-Storage issue

2002-07-03 Thread Matthew Carpenter

Speaking of this subject, does anyone know if you can boot off a USB Hard drive?  
Like a thumb-drive?  That would be the ultimate mini-distro target.

begin  stayler [EMAIL PROTECTED]
(Wed, 03 Jul 2002 21:07:02 -0700 (PDT))

 Ok,
 
 SO I spoke to soon.  It appears my lockup problem was being caused by
 the USB device itself.  Sorry for the bandwidth.
 
 I have both modules installed now and no problem.  The card reader has
 been removed and will be returned to the vendor..  
 
 Any suggestions for a unit that might actually work?  It'd be nice if
 it had Compact Flash and SanDisk capability in a single unit but no
 necessary
 
 stayler
 
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Installing updated glibc: Conflicts with old install

2002-07-03 Thread Joel Hammer

Well, I should know better, but:

I can't get anything to download with my current version of gnutella. This
is bad because I have realized I don't have a copy of The Man Who Shot
Liberty Valence.

So:
I want to install a new version of gnutella but:
I went to the web site and they recommend limewire which I downloaded but which:
Requires a new version of  Java which, which I downloaded but which:
Requires an updated glibc..

(And then they wonder why windows is still popular on the desktop. What
windows user would tolerate this for 3 seconds? Imagine just trying all
these downloads on a telephone modem, rant, rant, rant.)

Anyway, I downloaded the four libraries from the Caldera 2.4 current rpm's.
They are:
glibc-2.1.3-6.i386.rpm
glibc-devel-2.1.3-6.i386.rpm
glibc-devel-static-2.1.3-6.i386.rpm
glibc-localedata-2.1.3-6.i386.rpm 

I assume these are all I need. When I tried to install the first one
with rpm -i , I got zillions of conflicts with the prior installation
of glibc. I am vaguely aware that glibc is important for the functioning
of my computer, so I am not sure if I should just rpm -e those offending
installed rpm's.

I ran rpm -U glibc-localedata-2.1.3-6.i386.rpm   
and that seemed to work.

Then, I tried rpm -U glibc-2.1.3-6.i386.rpm 
and got this:

root@jhammer6 jlh]# rpm -U glibc-2.1.3-6.i386.rpm
error: failed dependencies:
glibc = 2.1.2 is needed by glibc-devel-2.1.2-3   

My current version of glibc is :
[root@jhammer6 jlh]# ls /lib/libc-*
/lib/libc-2.1.2.so   

So, the new version says the old version needs a somewhat newer version of
the old version.

I am basically without a clue.

Any insight appreciated.

Just in case I have really hosed my system, I am not going to turn it off
ever again.

Thanks
Joel



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Re: USB-Storage issue

2002-07-03 Thread Keith Antoine

On Thu, 4 Jul 2002 14:07, stayler wrote:
 Ok,

 SO I spoke to soon.  It appears my lockup problem was being caused by
 the USB device itself.  Sorry for the bandwidth.

 I have both modules installed now and no problem.  The card reader has
 been removed and will be returned to the vendor..

 Any suggestions for a unit that might actually work?  It'd be nice if
 it had Compact Flash and SanDisk capability in a single unit but no
 necessary

 stayler

Yes had that problem myself in the beggining, was told that it had to be Mass 
Storage Compat to work with linux, not all are. What I have at the moment is 
a Sandisk Imagemate (SDDR-31). I have a small convertor adaptor by FEIYA
for the smartmedia cards

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M$ and LInuxWorld

2002-07-03 Thread m.w.chang


Why could she join a linux event when she's not selling anything related 
to linux???

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Re: xcdroast??

2002-07-03 Thread Keith Morse

On Tue, 2 Jul 2002, Net Llama! wrote:

 On Mon, 1 Jul 2002, Keith Morse wrote:

  What I'd like to know is why cdrecord gets hung when doing a -scanbus on
  /dev/sg0?
 
 Isn't sg0 like a scanner or something similarly unrelated to CD burners?


And things like tape library changers use /dev/sg* also.  The sg module 
gets loaded as a requirement for the ide cdrom burner.  On this RH 7.2 
system, cdrom burning failed about 2 months ago for reasons unknown.

cat /proc/scsi/scsi reveals,

Host: scsi0 Channel: 00 Id: 02 Lun: 00
  Vendor: HP   Model: C1537A   Rev: L706
  Type:   Sequential-AccessANSI SCSI revision: 02
Host: scsi1 Channel: 00 Id: 03 Lun: 00
  Vendor: SONY Model: TSL-A300CRev: L107
  Type:   Sequential-AccessANSI SCSI revision: 02
Host: scsi1 Channel: 00 Id: 03 Lun: 01
  Vendor: SONY Model: TSL-A300CRev: L107
  Type:   Medium Changer   ANSI SCSI revision: 02
Host: scsi1 Channel: 00 Id: 04 Lun: 00
  Vendor: HP   Model: C1557A   Rev: U709
  Type:   Sequential-AccessANSI SCSI revision: 02
Host: scsi1 Channel: 00 Id: 05 Lun: 00
  Vendor: SEAGATE  Model: AIT-LDR  Rev: L1j8
  Type:   Sequential-AccessANSI SCSI revision: 02
Host: scsi3 Channel: 00 Id: 00 Lun: 00
  Vendor: LG   Model: CD-RW CED-8080B  Rev: 1.06
  Type:   CD-ROM   ANSI SCSI revision: 02
Host: scsi3 Channel: 00 Id: 01 Lun: 00
  Vendor: LG   Model: CD-ROM CRD-8521B Rev: 2.00
  Type:   CD-ROM   ANSI SCSI revision: 02


And if I try,

[root@ocelot root]# cdrecord -dd -scanbus dev=3,0,0
dev: 3,0,0 speed: 8 fs: 2097152
Cdrecord 1.10 (i686-pc-linux-gnu) Copyright (C) 1995-2001 Jörg Schilling
TOC Type: 1 = CD-ROM
scsidev: '3,0,0'
scsibus: 3 target: 0 lun: 0
scg__open() 3,0,0




it will stay at that point.  The process isn't hung as I can Ctrl-C to 
interrupt it.

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