Re: test 2 sign
On Wed, 18 Sep 2002 12:38, Tim Wunder wrote: On Tuesday 17 September 2002 05:11 am, Keith Antoine wrote: Whats this I have received at least 2 emails one from Tim Wunder and now you, where all the messages etc are attachments no text at all. Using KMail: View-Inlined Attachments should clear that up. HTH, Tim Thanks Tim for the handhold, however only one mail was like that from you and Doug the rest were fine ?? -- Keith Antoine (GANDALF) aka 'skippy' 18 Arkana St, The Gap, Queensland 4061 Australia PH:61733002161 Retired Geriatric, Sometime Electronics Engineer, Knowall, Brain in storage ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: test 2 sign
On Wed, 18 Sep 2002 13:09, Bill Day wrote: or if its winders you wont be able to read them at all 8-) suggestion, for windows the mozilla 1.0 release is fairly stable... jsut dont let M$ fight over who is default set miozilla as the default and leave it at that... Bill Day No never winders except when sumfin goes wrong. -- Keith Antoine (GANDALF) aka 'skippy' 18 Arkana St, The Gap, Queensland 4061 Australia PH:61733002161 Retired Geriatric, Sometime Electronics Engineer, Knowall, Brain in storage ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Updated Step
On Tue, 17 Sep 2002 22:42:54 -0400 Nobody [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: has just updated http://www.linux-sxs.org/ to incorporate the following: I was awaiting this with breathless anticipation! -- Collins Richey - Denver Area - WWTLRD? - Code Python gentoo(since 01/01/01) now 1.4beta kernel 2.4.18+ ext3 GCC3.2 xfce-sylpheed-skipstone ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Sometimes when I post...
I have subscribed on and off to this list for a while (2 1/2 yrs) The other night I was importing my gpg keys from backup and then I sent a test email to the list (Sorry to those that it bothered) I never dreamed that there would be around 8 replies to just that test email. Each with a different angle and each 'another way of looking at it'. It just goes to show you that you can never tell the response you will get. My point being; if you are not sure about something post and see. I have learnt so much from just observing and reading the posts on this list. I came from a windows world but now I am WAASOS (Windows as a second OS) to the core. So much so that I frequently select text at work(windows 2k) and then get annoyed when it doesn't paste after I click the middle button. OK anyway I should really just save these creative writing urges up till I get enough to put in the back of a readers digest. Cheers -- James McDonald Systems Engineer ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Rant......
What? HERD...? Wasn't the herd kernel a response of Richard Stallman to his disappointment at not getting the appropriate recognition for all the gnu utilities that have been pivotal in Linux becoming what it is today? Or so I read somewhere in Linux Format or Linux Journal. Oh and why the heck are Linux magazines s expensive? I pay $18-$20AUD each for them. What does eveyone else have to shell out or do y'all not buy them? -- James McDonald Systems Engineer Public key (824785B3) available at http://www.keyserver.net/ ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Rant......
I thought the Herd project was older than Linux. It just never really took off. Linux is what Hurd was supposed to be, more or less. Right? I think RS is po'd that Linux beat Herd to the punch. On Wed, 18 Sep 2002 20:52:21 -1000 James McDonald [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What? HERD...? Wasn't the herd kernel a response of Richard Stallman to his disappointment at not getting the appropriate recognition for all the gnu utilities that have been pivotal in Linux becoming what it is today? Or so I read somewhere in Linux Format or Linux Journal. -- ++===+ | Roger Oberholtzer | E-mail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | | OPQ Systems AB | WWW: http://www.opq.se/ | | Erik Dahlbergsgatan 41-43 |Phone: Int + 46 8 314223 | | 115 32 Stockholm | Mobile: Int + 46 733 621657 | | Sweden | Fax: Int + 46 8 302602 | ++===+ ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Rant......
begin mpdickens's quote: | What? HERD...?... Excuse me, but the last time I looked at HERD, | I realized the reason they named it HERD was because SH!T was | already taken. Talk about bad open source politics: this is the | poster child. look at it this way. most people have never hurd of hurd, and it's sufficiently unpleasant-sounding that nobody much will go to any trouble to find out about it. on the other hand, it's one of those things like esperanto support -- those who care about it are better off doing it rather than making messes elsewhere. -- dep http://www.linuxandmain.com -- outside the box, barely within the envelope, and no animated paperclip anywhere. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Rant......
begin James McDonald's quote: | Wasn't the herd kernel a response of Richard Stallman to his | disappointment at not getting the appropriate recognition for all | the gnu utilities that have been pivotal in Linux becoming what it | is today? no. hurd has been swirling in the caldron (some say it's not a caldron) for some time; it, or plans for it, predates linux. development has been, uh, slow. -- dep http://www.linuxandmain.com -- outside the box, barely within the envelope, and no animated paperclip anywhere. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Update GCC from 2.95.2: 2.95.3, 3.1.1, or 3.2?
OK, Caldera eW3.1 base install (but I guess by now it's a far cry from that...) with updated kernel 2.4.18 with preepmt patch, and glibc 2.2.5. I've been having a persnickety atexit problem with many of the programs I've been trying to compile of late and my latest information tells me that a likely fix is an upgrade of gcc. I currently have gcc-2.95.2 as provided by Caldera for their eW3.1.1 product. So, my question is: Should I update to gcc 3.2, 3.1.1 or stick with the 2.95.x tree and use 2.95.3? I suppose I *could* install multiple compilers and figger this out on my own, but I was hoping someone with more experience would offer a clue. I'm leaning toward trying 3.1.1. Thanks, Tim PS There doesn't appear to be a Step on updating gcc. Is there one tucked away somewhere that I just can't find? The instructions on the gnu site are, um, thorough (ly confusing...) ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Rant......
no. hurd has been swirling in the caldron (some say it's not a caldron) for some time; it, or plans for it, predates linux. development has been, uh, slow. see how much you can learn by posting mildly erroneous stuff to this list it doesn't stay erroneous for long. Ohh and erroneous is my word of the day so please forgive it's overuse -- James McDonald Systems Engineer Public key (824785B3) available at http://www.keyserver.net/ ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Update GCC from 2.95.2: 2.95.3, 3.1.1, or 3.2?
On Wed, 18 Sep 2002, Tim Wunder wrote: OK, Caldera eW3.1 base install (but I guess by now it's a far cry from that...) with updated kernel 2.4.18 with preepmt patch, and glibc 2.2.5. I've been having a persnickety atexit problem with many of the programs I've been trying to compile of late and my latest information tells me that a likely fix is an upgrade of gcc. I currently have gcc-2.95.2 as provided by Caldera for their eW3.1.1 product. So, my question is: Should I update to gcc 3.2, 3.1.1 or stick with the 2.95.x tree and use 2.95.3? Tim, could you fix your wordwrap, its set to something like 500 right now. Anyhoo, this really depends on whether you want bleeding edge or stable. Right now there is no compelling reason to go to ta 3.x version of gcc, othe than just because. 2.95.3 or 2.96.x (for those using redhat) is considered the latest stable release. I suppose I *could* install multiple compilers and figger this out on my own, but I was hoping someone with more experience would offer a clue. I'm leaning toward trying 3.1.1. Thanks, Tim PS There doesn't appear to be a Step on updating gcc. Is there one tucked away somewhere that I just can't find? The instructions on the gnu site are, um, thorough (ly confusing...) If there is one, i'm not aware of it. I tend to rebuild SRPMs for this sorta thing. -- ~~ Lonni J Friedman[EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step TyGeMo http://netllama.ipfox.com ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Rant......
On Wed, 18 Sep 2002, James McDonald wrote: What? HERD...? Wasn't the herd kernel a response of Richard Stallman to his disappointment at not getting the appropriate recognition for all the gnu utilities that have been pivotal in Linux becoming what it is today? Or so I read somewhere in Linux Format or Linux Journal. Oh and why the heck are Linux magazines s expensive? I pay $18-$20AUD each for them. What does eveyone else have to shell out or do y'all not buy them? I currently subscribe to Linux Journal. I find the content worth the cost, 2 years for US$45. I used to subscribe to Linux Magazine, but got pissed at their rapidly dwindling content, rapidly dwindling loss of quality in the content that remained, and poor customer service (i didn't receive an issue for 3 months in a row, and their excuse was, your postman lost it, sorry). I occasionally see UK based linux publications in Barnes Noble that seem to be decent quality, but i can't really gate whether their subscription cost is fair (i coudl never accurately convert British pounds into US dollars on the fly). -- ~~ Lonni J Friedman[EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step TyGeMo http://netllama.ipfox.com ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Update GCC from 2.95.2: 2.95.3, 3.1.1, or 3.2?
On 9/18/2002 9:48 AM, someone claiming to be Net Llama! wrote: On Wed, 18 Sep 2002, Tim Wunder wrote: OK, Caldera eW3.1 base install (but I guess by now it's a far cry from that...) with updated kernel 2.4.18 with preepmt patch, and glibc 2.2.5. I've been having a persnickety atexit problem with many of the programs I've been trying to compile of late and my latest information tells me that a likely fix is an upgrade of gcc. I currently have gcc-2.95.2 as provided by Caldera for their eW3.1.1 product. So, my question is: Should I update to gcc 3.2, 3.1.1 or stick with the 2.95.x tree and use 2.95.3? Tim, could you fix your wordwrap, its set to something like 500 right Actually, it was set to 0, which *used* to be fine with Mozilla =1.1, apparently that's no longer true with Mozilla =1.2a now. Anyhoo, this really depends on whether you want bleeding edge or stable. Right now there is no compelling reason to go to ta 3.x version of gcc, othe than just because. 2.95.3 or 2.96.x (for those using redhat) is considered the latest stable release. 'cept I have an Athlon and 3.x has optimizations for it. I'll be trying 3.1.1. From what I've been reading, it should be fine. I suppose I *could* install multiple compilers and figger this out on my own, but I was hoping someone with more experience would offer a clue. I'm leaning toward trying 3.1.1. Thanks, Tim PS There doesn't appear to be a Step on updating gcc. Is there one tucked away somewhere that I just can't find? The instructions on the gnu site are, um, thorough (ly confusing...) If there is one, i'm not aware of it. I tend to rebuild SRPMs for this sorta thing. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Procmail for dummies.
I am currently running Postfix Server that acts as a gateway and as a local mail host for several domains. I have been experimenting with a mail filtering tool (Anomy) and SpamAssassin and I wish to be able to set different filter settings for each domain. I also do not wish to filter outgoing mail. I have been reading up on Procmail and it appears that it can only be used to direct mail locally. I found a To function that that could be used to redirect mail, but I also read that this set up is flaky at best. Does anyone have a similar setup? Where can I find a How To For the procmail challenged. Regards, Wil McGilvery Manager, Digital Media Lynch Technologies Inc. 416-744-7191 1-888-622-3729 416-744-0406 FAX www.lynchdigital.com ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Rant......
On Wed, Sep 18, 2002 at 02:01:49PM +0200, Roger Oberholtzer wrote: I thought the Herd project was older than Linux. It just never really took off. Linux is what Hurd was supposed to be, more or less. Right? I think RS is po'd that Linux beat Herd to the punch. Hurd had some, um, development issues. It is also based on the MACH microkernel, which makes it quite a different critter than the monolithic Linux kernel. On Wed, 18 Sep 2002 20:52:21 -1000 James McDonald [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What? HERD...? Wasn't the herd kernel a response of Richard Stallman to his disappointment at not getting the appropriate recognition for all the gnu utilities that have been pivotal in Linux becoming what it is today? Or so I read somewhere in Linux Format or Linux Journal. Kurt ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Rant......
On Wednesday 18 September 2002 11:52 pm,James McDonald wrote: What? HERD...? Wasn't the herd kernel a response of Richard Stallman to his disappointment at not getting the appropriate recognition for all the gnu utilities that have been pivotal in Linux becoming what it is today? Or so I read somewhere in Linux Format or Linux Journal. What I had read from one of the old-timers was that HURD predated Linux but would never compile. Oh and why the heck are Linux magazines s expensive? I pay $18-$20AUD each for them. What does eveyone else have to shell out or do y'all not buy them? The extra cost is to cover the additional insurance required when shipping to Oz because of the high incidence of kangaroos eating them off the newsracks. -- Tony Alfrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'd rather be sailing ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Update GCC from 2.95.2: 2.95.3, 3.1.1, or 3.2?
On Wed, Sep 18, 2002 at 09:48:02AM -0400, Net Llama! wrote: On Wed, 18 Sep 2002, Tim Wunder wrote: OK, Caldera eW3.1 base install (but I guess by now it's a far cry from that...) with updated kernel 2.4.18 with preepmt patch, and glibc 2.2.5. I've been having a persnickety atexit problem with many of the programs I've been trying to compile of late and my latest information tells me that a likely fix is an upgrade of gcc. I currently have gcc-2.95.2 as provided by Caldera for their eW3.1.1 product. So, my question is: Should I update to gcc 3.2, 3.1.1 or stick with the 2.95.x tree and use 2.95.3? Tim, could you fix your wordwrap, its set to something like 500 right now. Anyhoo, this really depends on whether you want bleeding edge or stable. Right now there is no compelling reason to go to ta 3.x version of gcc, othe than just because. 2.95.3 or 2.96.x (for those using redhat) is considered the latest stable release. There's nothing stable about 2.96 because it was never released. IMHO, it's as stable as glibc 2.0.7. There are compelling reasons to use 3.2, however, such as more and better optimizations, better preprocessor, Ada95 (if that sort of thing matters to you), and so forth. It is slower than 2.95.3, but I expect that to improve as time goes by. Kurt ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
unitedlinux news conference
just finished participating in the ul news conference. many interesting developments, not the least being that ransom love is out. i wrote it up here: http://www.linuxandmain.com/modules.php?name=Newsfile=articlesid=229 -- dep http://www.linuxandmain.com -- outside the box, barely within the envelope, and no animated paperclip anywhere. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Update GCC from 2.95.2: 2.95.3, 3.1.1, or 3.2?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Tim Wunder spewed electrons into the ether that resembled: PS There doesn't appear to be a Step on updating gcc. Is there one tucked away somewhere that I just can't find? The instructions on the gnu site are, um, thorough (ly confusing...) personally, I'd use 2.95.3 for notes, check http://hunley.homeip.net/linux_sources installing gcc is fairly easy - -- Douglas J Hunley (doug at hunley.homeip.net) - Linux User #174778 Admin: Linux StepByStep - http://www.linux-sxs.org and http://jobs.linux-sxs.org printk(Cool stuff's happening!\n) 2.4.3 linux/fs/jffs/intrep.c -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE9iLW8SrrWWknCnMIRAiTgAKCPiJqesoZkd3yMnDPe+Z+iNjiGvQCePXBn 431kXjWbDRDE6t0ohH7rMhM= =DnoV -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Updated Step
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Collins spewed electrons into the ether that resembled: On Tue, 17 Sep 2002 22:42:54 -0400 Nobody [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: has just updated http://www.linux-sxs.org/ to incorporate the following: I was awaiting this with breathless anticipation! smartass :) the latest php upgrade messed up passig variables around. hence the announcment looks funny. this waas supposed to be a bout our new mirror in Argentina - -- Douglas J Hunley (doug at hunley.homeip.net) - Linux User #174778 Admin: Linux StepByStep - http://www.linux-sxs.org and http://jobs.linux-sxs.org Thank you. We're all refreshed and challenged by your unique point of view. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE9iLYrSrrWWknCnMIRAu9yAJoChLpBiVZsZJ7P1ulnSnPIAgGBNgCeJD7F JAD9syqgMC0YYoekLgOlrdU= =FysZ -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: unitedlinux news conference
On Wed, Sep 18, 2002 at 01:09:38PM -0400, dep wrote: just finished participating in the ul news conference. many interesting developments, not the least being that ransom love is out. i wrote it up here: http://www.linuxandmain.com/modules.php?name=Newsfile=articlesid=229 The part about the installation/management being done via YAST may well be enough to keep me from going with UnitedLinux. YAST has been the main reason we haven't done anything serious with SuSE. I don't like the idea of the monolithic configuration that makes it difficult for the knowledgeable admin to make changes without fear of having them undone the next time somebody runs YAST. Bill -- INTERNET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Bill Campbell; Celestial Software LLC UUCP: camco!bill PO Box 820; 6641 E. Mercer Way FAX:(206) 232-9186 Mercer Island, WA 98040-0820; (206) 236-1676 URL: http://www.celestial.com/ ``I don't care how little your country is, you got a right to run it like you want to. When the big nations quit meddling, then the world will have peace.'' Will Rogers ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Windows crashing accessing Linux POP3 server?
This is probably more a Winblows question than Linux, but I don't frequent any Windows groups, and I haven't had any reponse from the courier users mailing list. We have a customer site where we have a Caldera 3.1.1 system running courier-imap, and some of their users are experiencing BSODs when they get their mail from Win95 running Netscape 4.77(?). I can't understand how a mail client accessing a POP server could cause Windows to crash (other than the fact that Windows always crashes of course). Anybody have any ideas what might be causing this? Bill -- INTERNET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Bill Campbell; Celestial Software LLC UUCP: camco!bill PO Box 820; 6641 E. Mercer Way FAX:(206) 232-9186 Mercer Island, WA 98040-0820; (206) 236-1676 URL: http://www.celestial.com/ Government is actually the worst failure of civilized man. There has never been a really good one, and even those that are most tolerable are arbitrary, cruel, grasping and unintelligent. -- H. L. Mencken ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Windows crashing accessing Linux POP3 server?
Bill Campbell wrote: This is probably more a Winblows question than Linux, but I don't frequent any Windows groups, and I haven't had any reponse from the courier users mailing list. We have a customer site where we have a Caldera 3.1.1 system running courier-imap, and some of their users are experiencing BSODs when they get their mail from Win95 running Netscape 4.77(?). I can't understand how a mail client accessing a POP server could cause Windows to crash (other than the fact that Windows always crashes of course). Anybody have any ideas what might be causing this? Bill -- snip Not specifically, but I'd try a different mail client to see if it repeats. If so, then the server can be considered suspect, if not, it's a windows issue. Are they using IMAP4 or POP3? Subject says POP3, but you also mention courier-imap in the message. IMAP4 can have permission issues not applicable to POP3 of course. -- Andrew Mathews - 12:10pm up 5 days, 4:24, 3 users, load average: 1.32, 1.24, 1.14 - QOTD: I'd never marry a woman who didn't like pizza... I might play golf with her, but I wouldn't marry her! ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: unitedlinux news conference
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, 18 Sep 2002 10:54:16 -0700, Bill Campbell wrote: On Wed, Sep 18, 2002 at 01:09:38PM -0400, dep wrote: just finished participating in the ul news conference. many interesting developments, not the least being that ransom love is out. i wrote it up here: http://www.linuxandmain.com/modules.php?name=Newsfile=articlesid=229 The part about the installation/management being done via YAST may well be enough to keep me from going with UnitedLinux. YAST has been the main reason we haven't done anything serious with SuSE. I don't like the idea of the monolithic configuration that makes it difficult for the knowledgeable admin to make changes without fear of having them undone the next time somebody runs YAST. Besides that, I really like Lizard because you can start the install, set all the configuration options and leave the installation running. When you came back, you have the system installed. You don't have to stay arround answering questions every three install steps (and wait for reboots, etc). What I'd really like is and unatended install option that is well documenten and easy to setup. Lizard unatended install is almost imposible to understand and a pain to setup. I must confest that RedHat's kickstart is good (at least is easy to understand and configure). The big problem is that the gui has about 50 dependencies. The first time I used it I installed it on a minimal system and ended up with allmost a full install ;) Federico Voges Socio gerente Intrasoft Malabia 2137 14 A (1425) Buenos Aires Argentina Te/Fax: 54-11-4833-5182 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web: http://www.intrasoft.com.ar PGP Public Key Fingerprint: A536 4595 EB6F D197 FBC1 5C3A 145C 2516 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGPsdk version 1.7.1 (C) 1997-1999 Network Associates, Inc. and its affiliated companies. iQA/AwUBPYjFoxRcJRaVKt4XEQLG7wCdHCy4xZGK+SmFvCaVMc887wfvvoUAni9+ gkCjAtjbhDQYxeRGCE+mrb28 =ff/u -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: unitedlinux news conference
begin Federico Voges's quote: | Besides that, I really like Lizard because you can start the | install, set all the configuration options and leave the | installation running. When you came back, you have the system | installed. You don't have to stay arround answering questions every | three install steps (and wait for reboots, etc). to their credit -- and i hate and despise yast2 -- they've done a lot of work on it such that it's a *little* less intrusive in screwing around with user settings, and they do let you walk away and let it install. (an exception here is when you're prompted to change cds, which isn't an issue with an ftp install from their site.) they have apparently rejiggered package management for 8.1 as well; i pretty much assume that this will be part of the ul distro, in that the whole distro will be suse. if they are in fact seeking the enterprise (and in that they've said things to piss off everybody else, one supposes that they are), they will need to be a little less cute with the ul tools than they have been in the more amorphous distributions. i am absolutely certain that they know this. -- dep http://www.linuxandmain.com -- outside the box, barely within the envelope, and no animated paperclip anywhere. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Windows crashing accessing Linux POP3 server?
Most crashes from winders are from one of two things at 90% of the time. 1. over written arrays in the code 2. Null pointers. Winders is full of this crap. cheers -- Rick Sivernell Dallas, Texas 75287 972 306-2296 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Caldera Open Linux eWorkStation 3.1.1 Registered Linux User .~. / v \ /( _ )\ ^ ^ In Linux we trust! ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: unitedlinux news conference
On Wed, Sep 18, 2002 at 02:48:40PM -0400, dep wrote: begin Federico Voges's quote: | Besides that, I really like Lizard because you can start the | install, set all the configuration options and leave the | installation running. When you came back, you have the system | installed. You don't have to stay arround answering questions every | three install steps (and wait for reboots, etc). to their credit -- and i hate and despise yast2 -- they've done a lot of work on it such that it's a *little* less intrusive in screwing around with user settings, and they do let you walk away and let it install. (an exception here is when you're prompted to change cds, which isn't an issue with an ftp install from their site.) they have apparently rejiggered package management for 8.1 as well; i pretty much assume that this will be part of the ul distro, in that the whole distro will be suse. if they are in fact seeking the enterprise (and in that they've said things to piss off everybody else, one supposes that they are), they will need to be a little less cute with the ul tools than they have been in the more amorphous distributions. i am absolutely certain that they know this. They've certainly heard it enough times, but I don't think it's sinking in. The install procedure I want to see is simple, will install with ANY graphics adapter and CPU (not requiring PIII or whatever), will do NFS installs on arbitrary servers and directories, and will accept a list of packages for custom installations on floppy or other easily specified media. Caldera's OpenLinux 1.3 was the last installation that allowed all these things. Caldera's Lizard installs too frequently hang on the graphics adapters, and their NFS installation procedures are a total kludge requiring proper configuration of the server's DHCP server to specify installation directories. Lizard lost the custom install list feature after eDesktop 2.4, and the Caldera server 3.x won't install on anything less than a PIII. An installation procedure needs to: 1. Probe hardware to find the disk, NICs, and any other hardware essential to the installation. 2. Allow the installer to partition the disk(s), and specify the boot loader (or no boot loader installed). 3. Set network paramters if necessary for NFS install. 4. If doing NFS install, specify IP address and directory. 5. Select packages or custom package list. 6. Make emergency boot disk. All other configuration can be done after the system is running and bootable (perhaps even using a serial console). It would be very beneficial to have the hardware probes done during installation easily available on the running system, perhaps broken out into functional groups like NIC, Mouse, Graphics Adapters, SCSI host adapters, etc. which would make life easier when changing or adding hardware. The trend in Linux installation since Caldera introduced Lizard in OpenLinux 2.2 has been towards something that can be handled by brain-dead Windows users, and have made life more difficult for those who want to use Linux in a server environment where the system's never going to run graphics, or perhaps on older systems that don't have the Latest Greatest(tm) CPU or hardware. Bill -- INTERNET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Bill Campbell; Celestial Software LLC UUCP: camco!bill PO Box 820; 6641 E. Mercer Way FAX:(206) 232-9186 Mercer Island, WA 98040-0820; (206) 236-1676 URL: http://www.celestial.com/ Intaxication: Euphoria at getting a refund from the IRS, which lasts until you realize it was your money to start with. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Rant......
CRIMEY! That's 'roo ta ya mate! SNIP Oh and why the heck are Linux magazines s expensive? I pay $18-$20AUD each for them. What does eveyone else have to shell out or do y'all not buy them? The extra cost is to cover the additional insurance required when shipping to Oz because of the high incidence of kangaroos eating them off the newsracks. -- Ben Duncan Phone (601)-355-2574 Fax (601)-355-2573 Cell (601)-946-1220 Business Network Solutions 336 Elton Road Jackson MS, 39212 Software is like Sex, it is better when it's free - Linus Torvalds ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
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List This may be stupid simple, that is why I am here, my question is this: I have some files *.xpm that have a word static in them. I want to change the word to const. What is the easy way to to have a script to open each file in a directory change the word, save and close the file. Any help appreciated Cheers -- Rick Sivernell Dallas, Texas 75287 972 306-2296 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Caldera Open Linux eWorkStation 3.1.1 Registered Linux User .~. / v \ /( _ )\ ^ ^ In Linux we trust! ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
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Aren't xpm files images?? On Wed, 18 Sep 2002, Richard R. Sivernell wrote: List This may be stupid simple, that is why I am here, my question is this: I have some files *.xpm that have a word static in them. I want to change the word to const. What is the easy way to to have a script to open each file in a directory change the word, save and close the file. Any help appreciated Cheers -- ~~ Lonni J Friedman[EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step TyGeMo http://netllama.ipfox.com ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Question
Rick, assuming these are not image files (i.e., do not contain binary data) and also assuming that you are running bash, you could write a simple shell script like: TMPFILE=/tmp/tmp.$RANDOM for file in *.xpm; do echo #34;$file#34; sed -e #34;s/static/const/g#34; $file gt; $TMPFILE cat $TMPFILE gt; $file; # retains permissions, etc. done rm $TMPFILE HTH, Brad. --- #34;Richard R. Sivernell#34; lt;[EMAIL PROTECTED]gt; wrote: gt; List gt; gt; This may be stupid simple, that is why I am here, gt; my question is this: gt; I have some files *.xpm that have a word static in gt; them. I want to change gt; the word to const. What is the easy way to to have a gt; script to open each file gt; in a directory amp; change the word, save and close the gt; file. gt; gt; Any help appreciated Cheers gt; gt; -- gt; Rick Sivernell gt; Dallas, Texas 75287 gt; 972 306-2296 gt; [EMAIL PROTECTED] gt; Caldera Open Linux eWorkStation 3.1.1 gt; Registered Linux User gt; gt;.~. gt; / v \r gt; /( _ )\r gt;^ ^ gt; In Linux we trust! __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! News - Today's headlines http://news.yahoo.com ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Question
fire up the Gimp and then use it's air brushing features to blurr out the word and then insert the const over the top using the text features of gimp. On Tue, 17 Sep 2002 21:29, Richard R. Sivernell wrote: List This may be stupid simple, that is why I am here, my question is this: I have some files *.xpm that have a word static in them. I want to change the word to const. What is the easy way to to have a script to open each file in a directory change the word, save and close the file. Any help appreciated Cheers -- James McDonald Systems Engineer Public key (824785B3) available at http://www.keyserver.net/ ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Rant......
Ben Duncan wrote: CRIMEY! That's 'roo ta ya mate! SNIP Oh and why the heck are Linux magazines s expensive? I pay $18-$20AUD each for them. What does eveyone else have to shell out or do y'all not buy them? The extra cost is to cover the additional insurance required when shipping to Oz because of the high incidence of kangaroos eating them off the newsracks. -- Ben Duncan Phone (601)-355-2574 Fax (601)-355-2573 Cell (601)-946-1220 Business Network Solutions 336 Elton Road Jackson MS, 39212 Software is like Sex, it is better when it's free - Linus Torvalds Then there's the dingo problem who have a fondness for the enclosed linux cds. Seriously though, if linux mags cost that much it would seem that there is a business opportunity and market for a reasonably priced mag. Lee ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
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Re: Windows crashing accessing Linux POP3 server?
Conmsidering updates do not occur for win95 anymore and netscape 4.77 is not a very stable version even on windows, I would suggest maybe they update their netscape version.. The latter versions are a lot more stable.. Of course there is always the option of Mozilla for windows, however a hefty downlaod, I have no problems with it. Makes windows usage a bit easier and little less worry free..but then again it just depends on what im doing at the time for what I have infront of me... unfortunately its usually lookout most of the time... 8-( Bill Day Linux 2.2.20-1tr i586 6:10am up 13 days, 23:34, 1 user, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 - Original Message - From: Bill Campbell [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2002 1:00 PM Subject: Windows crashing accessing Linux POP3 server? This is probably more a Winblows question than Linux, but I don't frequent any Windows groups, and I haven't had any reponse from the courier users mailing list. We have a customer site where we have a Caldera 3.1.1 system running courier-imap, and some of their users are experiencing BSODs when they get their mail from Win95 running Netscape 4.77(?). I can't understand how a mail client accessing a POP server could cause Windows to crash (other than the fact that Windows always crashes of course). Anybody have any ideas what might be causing this? Bill -- INTERNET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Bill Campbell; Celestial Software LLC UUCP: camco!bill PO Box 820; 6641 E. Mercer Way FAX:(206) 232-9186 Mercer Island, WA 98040-0820; (206) 236-1676 URL: http://www.celestial.com/ Government is actually the worst failure of civilized man. There has never been a really good one, and even those that are most tolerable are arbitrary, cruel, grasping and unintelligent. -- H. L. Mencken ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.389 / Virus Database: 220 - Release Date: 9/16/02 ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Question
On Thu, 19 Sep 2002 08:14:39 -1000
James McDonald [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
fire up the Gimp and then use it's air brushing features to blurr out the word
and then insert the const over the top using the text features of gimp.
On Tue, 17 Sep 2002 21:29, Richard R. Sivernell wrote:
List
This may be stupid simple, that is why I am here, my question is this:
I have some files *.xpm that have a word static in them. I want to change
the word to const. What is the easy way to to have a script to open each
file in a directory change the word, save and close the file.
Any help appreciated Cheers
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Systems Engineer
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Lonnie Brad James
Thanks for responding.
Lonnie you are coorect, but these can be displayed in text as they were
created that way I guess, as they are part of a library. I am updateing the
library to the new C++ ANSI - ISO standards. As such the static part is
deprecated or causing aa problem. So change static to const.
The below is actuall one of these: James Gimp does a very nice job of displaying
them too.
/* XPM */
static char *notepad[] = {
/* width height num_colors chars_per_pixel */
323281,
/* colors */
. c none s none,
# c #00,
a c #ff,
b c #00,
c c #c6c6c6,
d c #007b7b,
e c #848484,
f c #008484,
/* pixels */
.##.##.##.##.##.##..,
#a##a##a##a##a##a###,
...#b#bc#cb#bc#cb#bc#cd##...,
...#cbcbcbcbcbcbcbcbcd#ce#..,
..#cbcbcbcbcbcbcbcbcbd#ce#..,
..#bcbcbcbcbcbcbcbcbd#cce#..,
.#bcbc##bcbcd#cce#..,
.#cbcbcbcbcbcbcbcbcd#ccce#..,
#cbcb##cbcbd#ccce#..,
#bcbcbcbcbcbcbcbcbd#eeece#..,
...#bcbcbcbcbcbcbcbcbcd#ccace#..,
...#cbcbcbcbcbcbcbcbcd#cccace#..,
..#cbcbcbcbcbcbcbcbcbd#ce#..,
..#bcbcbcbcbcbcbcbcbd#cccaace#..,
.#bcbcbcbcbcbcbcbcbcd#cccaace#..,
.#cbcbcbcbcbcbcbcbcd#eece#..,
#cbcbcbcbcbcbcbcbcbd#cccaaace#..,
#bcbcbcbcbcbcbcbcbd#aaace#..,
#df#eeece#..,
.##ce#..,
..#ce#..,
..#ce#..,
..#cccace#..,
..#cccace#..,
..#ce#..,
..#caaace#..,
..#ecacce#..,
..#eeccee#..,
...##...,
,
,
};
Brad appreciate the script, will look at it later after finishing all
of my homework.
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972 306-2296
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Re: Procmail for dummies.
promail could write directly to the system mailbox in /var/mail or /var/spool/mail. you shoudn't need to use smtp to reroute the message. Mr. Hungley's sample procmailrc in linux-sxs showed the use of formail and to: field, tbhough. I have been reading up on Procmail and it appears that it can only be used to direct mail locally. I found a To function that that could be used to redirect mail, but I also read that this set up is flaky at best. -- Swiftly. Silently. Invisibly. .~. In Linux we trust. / v \ news://news.hkpcug.org /( _ )\ http://www.linux-sxs.org ^ ^ ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
