Re: OT earthquake!

2002-11-28 Thread ronnie gauthier
layers with a vented windproof shell outside and a good understanding
of the wicking properties of the layers.

high school there. That dang dampness, how do you dress for that?

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rm is picky

2002-11-28 Thread ronnie gauthier
here is a good reason why rm is picky about what it will do and why you
should leave it that way.

I was playing around and needed a file from a diferent libc so I went
and found one and stuck it in /usr/lib. The install still did not work
so I abandoned it and went looking for someting else. I sorta forgot
about the libc.so.6 file. 
A few hours later and KDE was acting a bit lame so I restarted it. The
monitor went click...click...lots..then

INIT: Id x respawning too fast: disabled for 5 minutes.

Not good. rebooted. same thing. power off. get a glass of coke.
power up. same thing. not good. hit the space bar and logged in to init
3 and started poking around. Not long and I remembered that damned
libc.so.6 file. I will remove it. started typing in the command and
just as I got rm typed the five minutes was up and the damn thing
tried to init KDM and flunked again. but a real ugly message also was
there...

rm: '/' is a directory

well knock me out.

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Re: rm is picky

2002-11-28 Thread kwall
On Thu, Nov 28, 2002 at 04:19:51AM -0600, ronnie gauthier wrote:
 here is a good reason why rm is picky about what it will do and why you
 should leave it that way.

[NiNe HoUrS (c) (1998 Ric Moore)]
 
 rm: '/' is a directory
 
 well knock me out.

Oops.

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Get Rid of that Ugly Background

2002-11-28 Thread kwall
For those of you who hate the ugly default X background, the black
and white crossweave net thing, here's a simple little patch that
fixes it and makes it solid black:

-cut-
--- xc/programs/Xserver/dix/window.c.die-ugly-pattern-die-die-die   Tue Feb 12 
16:33:04 2002
+++ xc/programs/Xserver/dix/window.cTue Feb 12 16:45:32 2002
@@ -119,8 +119,8 @@
  *
  **/
 
-static unsigned char _back_lsb[4] = {0x88, 0x22, 0x44, 0x11};
-static unsigned char _back_msb[4] = {0x11, 0x44, 0x22, 0x88};
+static unsigned char _back_lsb[4] = {0x00, 0x00, 0x00, 0x00};
+static unsigned char _back_msb[4] = {0x00, 0x00, 0x00, 0x00};
 
 int screenIsSaved = SCREEN_SAVER_OFF;
-cut-

It isn't my patch (see ftp://people.redhat.com/mharris/patches/),
but it still works. You can only use this if you build your own
XFree86, I'm afraid. To use it: 

1) Save the patch to a file, say, die-ugly-pattern-die-die-die.patch. 
2) Change to the top level directory that contains your X source 
   (the directory that contains the xc directory). 
3) Execute:

   $ patch -p0  die-ugly-pattern-die-die-die
   $ cd xc
   $ make
   $ su 
   # make install

After modifying the X source tree in which you've already done a
make World, you only need to say make in order to incorporate
the changed files. If you haven't built X already, you'll need to
say make World.

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OK my hardware is screwed how to I diagnose it?

2002-11-28 Thread James McDonald



Folks,

I have a AMD 1.3GHz 768MB DDR RAM and an MSI 
Mainboard with an nForce chipset.

All had been going well running RH7.2-8.0 Until it 
started freezing and spontaneously rebooting

My question is how do I validate my hardware so 
that I can isolate the actually source of the problem.

Normally I rely on known good swap out etc but this 
time... I need to find the problem before I buy a new bit

Can anyone help with Linux/DOS based utils for 
this?

Thanks
James McDonald


Samba problem

2002-11-28 Thread David A. Bandel
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Folks,

I have a Windoze network with a Samba server.

The Windoze network is composed of 98 and ME.  The Workgroup name is
Oteima.

On the 98 systems, there's one listing for Oteima and all systems show up
in it.

On the ME systems, there's two listings for Oteima (yes, two Oteima
workgroups).

- From the Samba server, I can use nmblookup and see _all_ the systems. 
Using smbclient, however, I can only connect to systems in one of the
Oteima workgoups but not the other (10 in one, three in the other, the 3 I
can connect to are mixed 98 and ME).

Damndest thing I ever saw.  Problem is, the one system the Samba server
_needs_ to talk to is in the other Oteima group. (God, I hate Windoze).

Any suggestions (besides scrap Windoze?) ?

TIA,

David A. Bandel
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Re: Samba problem

2002-11-28 Thread Tim Wunder
On Thursday 28 November 2002 07:27 am, someone claiming to be David A. Bandel 
wrote:
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 Folks,

 I have a Windoze network with a Samba server.


Which version of Samba?

 The Windoze network is composed of 98 and ME.  The Workgroup name is
 Oteima.

 On the 98 systems, there's one listing for Oteima and all systems show up
 in it.

 On the ME systems, there's two listings for Oteima (yes, two Oteima
 workgroups).

 - From the Samba server, I can use nmblookup and see _all_ the systems.
 Using smbclient, however, I can only connect to systems in one of the
 Oteima workgoups but not the other (10 in one, three in the other, the 3 I
 can connect to are mixed 98 and ME).

 Damndest thing I ever saw.  Problem is, the one system the Samba server
 _needs_ to talk to is in the other Oteima group. (God, I hate Windoze).

 Any suggestions (besides scrap Windoze?) ?



Provided you're current with samba (2.2.7 is the latest), only idea I have is 
to change the workgroups' names so they're different for the two groups.

You could try the samba mailing list. But if you do, you'll need to provide 
more information than you've provided here.

HTH, 
Tim

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Re: OK my hardware is screwed how to I diagnose it?

2002-11-28 Thread kwall
On Thu, Nov 28, 2002 at 11:24:56PM +1100, James McDonald wrote:
 Folks,
 
 I have a AMD 1.3GHz 768MB DDR RAM and an MSI Mainboard with an nForce chipset.
 
 All had been going well running RH7.2-8.0 Until it started freezing and 
spontaneously rebooting

My first question is what has changed vis-a-vis your software? I'll readily
concede hardware is at fault, my first suspect is software. New drivers?
Some upgraded from RHN? A whiz-bang-wowie application?

 My question is how do I validate my hardware so that I can isolate the actually 
source of the problem.

The memtest app that's been mentioned on the list a number of times is
a a good place to start. If you're overclocking, turn it off. Turn up
kernel logging (klogd logging) to see if it generates useful data points.
Review your logs anyway.

Kurt
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Re: OK my hardware is screwed how to I diagnose it?

2002-11-28 Thread Bob Raymond
On Thursday 28 November 2002 12:24 pm, James McDonald wrote:
 Folks,

 I have a AMD 1.3GHz 768MB DDR RAM and an MSI Mainboard with an nForce
 chipset.

 All had been going well running RH7.2-8.0 Until it started freezing and
 spontaneously rebooting

 My question is how do I validate my hardware so that I can isolate the
 actually source of the problem.

 Normally I rely on known good swap out etc but this time... I need to find
 the problem before I buy a new bit

 Can anyone help with Linux/DOS based utils for this?

Start off with memtest.  If it's the hard disk, you could try IBM's Drive 
Fitness Test, and Maxtor and other drive manufacturers should have their own 
tests.

Bob Raymond
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RH 8.0 and XFS (font server)

2002-11-28 Thread Tim Wunder
Using RH8... every once in a while, after logging out, xfs dies on me, causing 
X not to load. I have to manually start xfs with 'xfs -daemon' to get X to 
work again. Any recomendations on how to fix this?

Thanks, 
Tim

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Re: Samba problem

2002-11-28 Thread David A. Bandel
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On Thu, 28 Nov 2002 07:40:19 -0500
begin  Tim Wunder [EMAIL PROTECTED] spewed forth:

 On Thursday 28 November 2002 07:27 am, someone claiming to be David A.
 Bandel wrote:
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  Folks,
 
  I have a Windoze network with a Samba server.
 
 
 Which version of Samba?

V2.2 (what came w/ Caldera 3.11)

 
  The Windoze network is composed of 98 and ME.  The Workgroup name is
  Oteima.
 
  On the 98 systems, there's one listing for Oteima and all systems show
  up in it.
 
  On the ME systems, there's two listings for Oteima (yes, two Oteima
  workgroups).
 
  - From the Samba server, I can use nmblookup and see _all_ the
  systems. Using smbclient, however, I can only connect to systems in
  one of the Oteima workgoups but not the other (10 in one, three in the
  other, the 3 I can connect to are mixed 98 and ME).
 
  Damndest thing I ever saw.  Problem is, the one system the Samba
  server_needs_ to talk to is in the other Oteima group. (God, I hate
  Windoze).
 
  Any suggestions (besides scrap Windoze?) ?
 
 
 
 Provided you're current with samba (2.2.7 is the latest), only idea I
 have is to change the workgroups' names so they're different for the two
 groups.
 
 You could try the samba mailing list. But if you do, you'll need to
 provide more information than you've provided here.

such as?  how is it that there can be two separate workgroups with the
same name?  something here is definitely amiss, but I have no clue what. 
never saw two separate workgroups with the same name before.  If I could
resolve the two workgroups issue, this problem would go away.

Thanx,

David-
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Re: mozilla-1.2 is out

2002-11-28 Thread m.w.chang
yes. doing that in the office.. yesterday's nightly was a bomb. the exe 
(window build) didn't even work. the baysian spam filter... I love the 
word baysian. Long lost my meory of queuing theories.. :)

Tim Wunder wrote:
Ahh, but the real fun is trying the latest trunk builds with new features such 
as news filters and bayseian(sp?) spam filtering :-)

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Re: OK my hardware is screwed how to I diagnose it?

2002-11-28 Thread James McDonald

 
  All had been going well running RH7.2-8.0 Until it started freezing and
spontaneously rebooting

 My first question is what has changed vis-a-vis your software? I'll
readily
 concede hardware is at fault, my first suspect is software. New drivers?
 Some upgraded from RHN? A whiz-bang-wowie application?

Good question it's got a Nvidia nforce chip set so the Video will not work
until you download and install the Nvidia (closed source) drivers.

One version of them didn't work under RH7.3 and so I went back to the older
version.

Then one day X started taking like a minute to load up and also would fail
out at odd moments.

I think your right re software but I think that there may be a hw issue now
as I installed (forgive me) XP to see if it was OS specific and I have the
same weird failures. Although windows completey reboots itself as oposed to
linux just falling out of X.



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Re: rm is picky

2002-11-28 Thread Joel Hammer
Well, so what? You do have backups, don't you?
Joel
On Thu, Nov 28, 2002 at 04:19:51AM -0600, ronnie gauthier wrote:
 here is a good reason why rm is picky about what it will do and why you
 should leave it that way.
 
 I was playing around and needed a file from a diferent libc so I went
 and found one and stuck it in /usr/lib. The install still did not work
 so I abandoned it and went looking for someting else. I sorta forgot
 about the libc.so.6 file. 
 A few hours later and KDE was acting a bit lame so I restarted it. The
 monitor went click...click...lots..then
 
 INIT: Id x respawning too fast: disabled for 5 minutes.
 
 Not good. rebooted. same thing. power off. get a glass of coke.
 power up. same thing. not good. hit the space bar and logged in to init
 3 and started poking around. Not long and I remembered that damned
 libc.so.6 file. I will remove it. started typing in the command and
 just as I got rm typed the five minutes was up and the damn thing
 tried to init KDM and flunked again. but a real ugly message also was
 there...
 
 rm: '/' is a directory
 
 well knock me out.
 
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Re: RH 8.0 and XFS (font server)

2002-11-28 Thread kwall
On Thu, Nov 28, 2002 at 08:16:25AM -0500, Tim Wunder wrote:
 Using RH8... every once in a while, after logging out, xfs dies on me, causing 
 X not to load. I have to manually start xfs with 'xfs -daemon' to get X to 
 work again. Any recomendations on how to fix this?

I don't know how to fix it, but you could add something like

/etc/rc.d/init.d/xfs restart

to /etc/X11/xdm/Xsetup_0, or whatever file RH 8 uses to set up the login
manager you use. My example is for xdm, but I'm sure gdm or whatever is in
use on RH 8.0 has something similar.

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Re: OT earthquake!

2002-11-28 Thread Tony Alfrey
Arrg!  All this stuff about ice on the roads, can't start cars, 
freezing one's extremeties off, dampness, etc.
I'll stick with earthquakes.  ;-)


On Wednesday 27 November 2002 11:57 pm, ronnie gauthier wrote:
 layers with a vented windproof shell outside and a good understanding
 of the wicking properties of the layers.

 high school there. That dang dampness, how do you dress for that?
 
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Happy Turkey Day

2002-11-28 Thread Bill Day
Wish the best to you and yours this Thanksgiving.

Bill Day

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Re: OK my hardware is screwed how to I diagnose it?

2002-11-28 Thread Bill Day
This honeestly doesnot sound like a Software ingested problem.  I think its
a heat problem.  Check your fan to make sure it is running good(touch it
lightly, if stops real easy it's dying) or maybe there is a wire hanging on
it, the edge of a cable.. etc.

I have had the same problem with numerous systems(and fans are dirt cheap)

HTH

Bill Day

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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, November 28, 2002 7:51 AM
Subject: Re: OK my hardware is screwed how to I diagnose it?



  
   All had been going well running RH7.2-8.0 Until it started freezing
and
 spontaneously rebooting
 
  My first question is what has changed vis-a-vis your software? I'll
 readily
  concede hardware is at fault, my first suspect is software. New drivers?
  Some upgraded from RHN? A whiz-bang-wowie application?
 
 Good question it's got a Nvidia nforce chip set so the Video will not work
 until you download and install the Nvidia (closed source) drivers.

 One version of them didn't work under RH7.3 and so I went back to the
older
 version.

 Then one day X started taking like a minute to load up and also would fail
 out at odd moments.

 I think your right re software but I think that there may be a hw issue
now
 as I installed (forgive me) XP to see if it was OS specific and I have the
 same weird failures. Although windows completey reboots itself as oposed
to
 linux just falling out of X.



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Re: Happy Turkey Day

2002-11-28 Thread kwall
On Thu, Nov 28, 2002 at 09:20:03AM -0600, Bill Day wrote:
 Wish the best to you and yours this Thanksgiving.

Yup, Happy (American) Thanksgiving Day to all. Enjoy your post-prandial
comas. ;-)

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Re: OK my hardware is screwed how to I diagnose it?

2002-11-28 Thread Ted Ozolins
On Thursday 28 November 2002 07:25, Bill Day wrote:
- This honeestly doesnot sound like a Software ingested problem.  I think its
- a heat problem.  Check your fan to make sure it is running good(touch it
- lightly, if stops real easy it's dying) or maybe there is a wire hanging on
- it, the edge of a cable.. etc.
-
- I have had the same problem with numerous systems(and fans are dirt cheap)
-
- HTH
-
- Bill Day

I've had this happen  because of heat and I've had this because of bad ram. 
Memtest has been mentioned by at least two prior postss, I suggest you use 
it.

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Re: OK my hardware is screwed how to I diagnose it?

2002-11-28 Thread Net Llama!
On 11/28/02 04:56, Bob Raymond wrote:

On Thursday 28 November 2002 12:24 pm, James McDonald wrote:

Folks,

I have a AMD 1.3GHz 768MB DDR RAM and an MSI Mainboard with an nForce
chipset.

All had been going well running RH7.2-8.0 Until it started freezing and
spontaneously rebooting

My question is how do I validate my hardware so that I can isolate the
actually source of the problem.

Normally I rely on known good swap out etc but this time... I need to find
the problem before I buy a new bit

Can anyone help with Linux/DOS based utils for this?


Start off with memtest.  If it's the hard disk, you could try IBM's Drive 
Fitness Test, and Maxtor and other drive manufacturers should have their own 
tests.

Failing drives almost always spit out some kind of an error in Linux 
(usually IO errors).  I've never been a big fan of those commericial 
drive testers.  For starters they almost always require that you have 
either windoze or a DOS boot disk (of which i have neither).

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Re: OK my hardware is screwed how to I diagnose it?

2002-11-28 Thread Bob Raymond
On Thursday 28 November 2002 03:52 pm, Net Llama! wrote:
 Failing drives almost always spit out some kind of an error in Linux
 (usually IO errors).  I've never been a big fan of those commericial
 drive testers.  For starters they almost always require that you have
 either windoze or a DOS boot disk (of which i have neither).

However, their setup program usually works in Wine, so just make sure your 
floppy is blank and mounted.  Unless you are so worried about system 
infestation that you won't allow a floppy to boot PC DOS 2000 ;-)

Bob Raymond

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Re: RH 8.0 and XFS (font server)

2002-11-28 Thread Net Llama!
Have you checked Redhat's bugzilla to see if this is a known issue?  If 
its not, you should report it.

On 11/28/02 05:16, Tim Wunder wrote:
Using RH8... every once in a while, after logging out, xfs dies on me, causing 
X not to load. I have to manually start xfs with 'xfs -daemon' to get X to 
work again. Any recomendations on how to fix this?

Thanks, 
Tim


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Re: OK my hardware is screwed how to I diagnose it?

2002-11-28 Thread Net Llama!
On 11/28/02 04:24, James McDonald wrote:

Folks,

I have a AMD 1.3GHz 768MB DDR RAM and an MSI Mainboard with an nForce chipset.

All had been going well running RH7.2-8.0 Until it started freezing and spontaneously rebooting

My question is how do I validate my hardware so that I can isolate the actually source of the problem.

Normally I rely on known good swap out etc but this time... I need to find the problem before I buy a new bit

Can anyone help with Linux/DOS based utils for this?


Spontaneous lockups  reboots are either bad software, or memory, CPU or 
mobo related.  As someone else remarked, it could be as simple as 
overheating, or it could be alot worse.  But before you start tearing 
the box apart, look at your messages  dmeg logs.  There could be a very 
telling error in there.  If not, then i'd recommend (even before using 
memtest86) trying CTCS:
http://sourceforge.net/projects/va-ctcs

It will test our your memory, and so much more.

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Viewing mac files

2002-11-28 Thread Joel Hammer
Is there a way on linux to view a file like this:
BinHex binary text, version 4.0

(This file must be converted with BinHex 4.0)
:$dPZC'PKELKG#dB@*XC3+8%9(5PCA8J3!N!0PD`#30GVrpMri!!35NC*4J!
etc.

I have found the macutil package on my computer, and, and I can convert this
package to data with binhex, but, from that point on I am stumped.

Thanks,
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Re: Viewing mac files

2002-11-28 Thread Net Llama!
I dunno, i think you might be out of luck on this one.  Macs do things 
quite differently.  A file is really two things in the filesystem, a 
resource fork, and a data fork.  Unless you have both, you can't do 
anything.  However, binhexing makes the two forks portable, kinda like a 
tarball.  BUt unfortunately, you need the HFS filesystem in order to 
merge the two forks and do anything with them.

On 11/28/02 09:48, Joel Hammer wrote:
Is there a way on linux to view a file like this:
BinHex binary text, version 4.0

(This file must be converted with BinHex 4.0)
:$dPZC'PKELKG#dB@*XC3+8%9(5PCA8J3!N!0PD`#30GVrpMri!!35NC*4J!
etc.

I have found the macutil package on my computer, and, and I can convert this
package to data with binhex, but, from that point on I am stumped.


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xd card reader

2002-11-28 Thread Ken Moffat
Anyone use the olympus (or fujifilm) smartmedia/xD dual card reader with 
success? I'm unable to make my fuji3800 work under linux, but I'm hoping 
the card reader might? Any clues?
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Re: Samba problem

2002-11-28 Thread Tim Wunder
On Thursday 28 November 2002 08:28 am, someone claiming to be David A. Bandel 
wrote:
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 On Thu, 28 Nov 2002 07:40:19 -0500

 begin  Tim Wunder [EMAIL PROTECTED] spewed forth:
  On Thursday 28 November 2002 07:27 am, someone claiming to be David A.
 
  Bandel wrote:
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   Folks,
  
   I have a Windoze network with a Samba server.
 
  Which version of Samba?

 V2.2 (what came w/ Caldera 3.11)


2.2.0? Well, that's what I'm still running at work (compiled from source). I'm 
hoping to be able to update it to 2.2.7 over the weekend while no one's using 
it. But, that's certainly not a very current version and has some known 
problems (at least known to those who care... it' mostly works for us, except 
for occasional oplocks problems).

snip
 such as?  how is it that there can be two separate workgroups with the
 same name?  something here is definitely amiss, but I have no clue what.
 never saw two separate workgroups with the same name before.  If I could
 resolve the two workgroups issue, this problem would go away.

 
snip

Are they on separate subnets?
Do the Windows PCs all have the same netmasks?
Are the networks settings on the Wintendo boxes the same (other than IP 
address, of course)?

What happens if you change the workgroup name on all the PC's to something 
else?

(just thinking out loud...)

HTH, 
Tim

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Re: Samba problem

2002-11-28 Thread David A. Bandel
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On Thu, 28 Nov 2002 13:29:11 -0500
begin  Tim Wunder [EMAIL PROTECTED] spewed forth:

 On Thursday 28 November 2002 08:28 am, someone claiming to be David A.
 Bandel wrote:
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  On Thu, 28 Nov 2002 07:40:19 -0500
 
  begin  Tim Wunder [EMAIL PROTECTED] spewed forth:
   On Thursday 28 November 2002 07:27 am, someone claiming to be David
   A.
  
   Bandel wrote:
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Folks,
   
I have a Windoze network with a Samba server.
  
   Which version of Samba?
 
  V2.2 (what came w/ Caldera 3.11)
 
 
 2.2.0? Well, that's what I'm still running at work (compiled from
 source). I'm hoping to be able to update it to 2.2.7 over the weekend
 while no one's using it. But, that's certainly not a very current
 version and has some known problems (at least known to those who care...
 it' mostly works for us, except for occasional oplocks problems).

no -- 2.2.2 (that's the current 3.1.1 version)

 
 snip
  such as?  how is it that there can be two separate workgroups with the
  same name?  something here is definitely amiss, but I have no clue
  what. never saw two separate workgroups with the same name before.  If
  I could resolve the two workgroups issue, this problem would go away.
 
  
 snip
 
 Are they on separate subnets?

nope (192.168.5.0/24)

 Do the Windows PCs all have the same netmasks?
 Are the networks settings on the Wintendo boxes the same (other than IP 
 address, of course)?

yup and yup.

 
 What happens if you change the workgroup name on all the PC's to
 something else?

tried changing the samba server and one of the oteima boxes I can't
connect to to the workgroup Linux -- no joy. (Yes, I stopped and
restarted nmbd and smbd).

This connecting to some but not to others really has me stumped.

 
 (just thinking out loud...)
 
 HTH, 
 Tim
 
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Re: KDE help?

2002-11-28 Thread RBE
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Woe!  I have no Preferences  Personalization to go to.  What I have is 
Session Management with no such default, so I set the Shutdown to 
Nobody instead of User, and that may have done it.  Lycoris seems 
to have duplicated the layout of Windows XP.  I'm not sure that's 
always a good thing for people like me who are always fiddling with 
their systems.

On Thursday 28 November 2002 1:40 am, ronnie gauthier wrote:
 Its not the files itself but the default you must have set.
 go to... K menuPreferencesPersonalizationSession Manager
 From there you can set the default action on logoff.
 What file it tickles I have no idea.

 On Thu, 28 Nov 2002 01:15:04 -0600

 RBE [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 I've got a problem with KDE apparently caused by an attempted
  install of KDE 3.05 over an older 2.2.2 that didn't go right.  When
  I got rid of KDE (well, deactivated would be a better term --
  restored rc.gui and startkde and ld.so.conf to the original values
  and ran ldconfig and
 
 rebooted), I seem to have screwed something up.
 
 When I logout of the desktop, instead of returning me to the login
 screen, it runs shutdown and turns the computer off.  I have been
 unable to find anyone (even on the kde-users list) who can tell me
  what
 
 files, programs and signals are sent (and in what order) when logout
  is
 
 executed from the KDE desktop.
 
 Does anyone here know where I might look or what I should be looking
 at?

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preferred routing daemon for linux

2002-11-28 Thread Keith Morse

Just out of curiousity, what's the preferred flavour.  Routed?

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Re: rm is picky

2002-11-28 Thread RBE
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One of the problems is that the libc.so.6 was not removed from memory, 
so it's still trying to get it to work.  When that happens, you need to 
reboot.

On Thursday 28 November 2002 4:19 am, ronnie gauthier wrote:
 here is a good reason why rm is picky about what it will do and why
 you should leave it that way.

 I was playing around and needed a file from a diferent libc so I went
 and found one and stuck it in /usr/lib. The install still did not
 work so I abandoned it and went looking for someting else. I sorta
 forgot about the libc.so.6 file.
 A few hours later and KDE was acting a bit lame so I restarted it.
 The monitor went click...click...lots..then

 INIT: Id x respawning too fast: disabled for 5 minutes.

 Not good. rebooted. same thing. power off. get a glass of coke.
 power up. same thing. not good. hit the space bar and logged in to
 init 3 and started poking around. Not long and I remembered that
 damned libc.so.6 file. I will remove it. started typing in the
 command and just as I got rm typed the five minutes was up and the
 damn thing tried to init KDM and flunked again. but a real ugly
 message also was there...

 rm: '/' is a directory

 well knock me out.

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Re: mozilla-1.2 is out

2002-11-28 Thread Klaus-Peter Schrage
m.w.chang wrote:


http://www.mozilla.org/release


For Redhat 8.0, they offer two different sets of RPMs:  Xft support 
and vanilla. Which one to choose? Are already there any observations?
Klaus

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Re: rm is picky

2002-11-28 Thread RBE
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Use: alias rm = 'rm -i' to avoid removing everything.

On Thursday 28 November 2002 5:29 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Thu, Nov 28, 2002 at 04:19:51AM -0600, ronnie gauthier wrote:
  here is a good reason why rm is picky about what it will do and why
  you should leave it that way.

 [NiNe HoUrS (c) (1998 Ric Moore)]

  rm: '/' is a directory
 
  well knock me out.

 Oops.

 Kurt

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Re: mozilla-1.2 is out

2002-11-28 Thread Net Llama!
On 11/28/02 13:25, Klaus-Peter Schrage wrote:

m.w.chang wrote:



http://www.mozilla.org/release


For Redhat 8.0, they offer two different sets of RPMs:  Xft support 
and vanilla. Which one to choose? Are already there any observations?
Klaus

If you like pretty fonts, then the xft version.  Read the README in the 
same dir, and it will comment on some known 'issues' with the xft version.

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Re: Samba problem

2002-11-28 Thread RBE
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On Thursday 28 November 2002 6:27 am, David A. Bandel wrote:
 Folks,

 I have a Windoze network with a Samba server.

 The Windoze network is composed of 98 and ME.  The Workgroup name is
 Oteima.

 On the 98 systems, there's one listing for Oteima and all systems
 show up in it.

 On the ME systems, there's two listings for Oteima (yes, two Oteima
 workgroups).

 From the Samba server, I can use nmblookup and see _all_ the systems.
 Using smbclient, however, I can only connect to systems in one of the
 Oteima workgoups but not the other (10 in one, three in the other,
 the 3 I can connect to are mixed 98 and ME).

 Damndest thing I ever saw.  Problem is, the one system the Samba
 server _needs_ to talk to is in the other Oteima group. (God, I hate
 Windoze).

 Any suggestions (besides scrap Windoze?) ?

Just a guess, but I suspect the same names for two different workgroups 
is causing the problem.  Try naming one Oteima1 and the other Oteima2 
and see what happens (if you have access to DOS, this may be possible, 
but you should be very careful that you catch all files that have the 
named references in them).

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Re: rm is picky

2002-11-28 Thread ronnie gauthier
I never lost anything. That is an error that rm gives when you try to
remove a directory without forcing and recursive. What surprised me is
that an interupted command like that would try to execute itself on /.

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Re: Re: rm is picky

Well, so what? You do have backups, don't you?
Joel
On Thu, Nov 28, 2002 at 04:19:51AM -0600, ronnie gauthier wrote:
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Re: Samba problem

2002-11-28 Thread Tim Wunder
On Thursday 28 November 2002 01:41 pm, someone claiming to be David A. Bandel 
wrote:
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 On Thu, 28 Nov 2002 13:29:11 -0500

 begin  Tim Wunder [EMAIL PROTECTED] spewed forth:
  On Thursday 28 November 2002 08:28 am, someone claiming to be David A.
 
  Bandel wrote:
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   On Thu, 28 Nov 2002 07:40:19 -0500
  
   begin  Tim Wunder [EMAIL PROTECTED] spewed forth:
On Thursday 28 November 2002 07:27 am, someone claiming to be David
A.
   
Bandel wrote:
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 Folks,

 I have a Windoze network with a Samba server.
   
Which version of Samba?
  
   V2.2 (what came w/ Caldera 3.11)
 
  2.2.0? Well, that's what I'm still running at work (compiled from
  source). I'm hoping to be able to update it to 2.2.7 over the weekend
  while no one's using it. But, that's certainly not a very current
  version and has some known problems (at least known to those who care...
  it' mostly works for us, except for occasional oplocks problems).

 no -- 2.2.2 (that's the current 3.1.1 version)

  snip
 
   such as?  how is it that there can be two separate workgroups with the
   same name?  something here is definitely amiss, but I have no clue
   what. never saw two separate workgroups with the same name before.  If
   I could resolve the two workgroups issue, this problem would go away.
 
  snip
 
  Are they on separate subnets?

 nope (192.168.5.0/24)

  Do the Windows PCs all have the same netmasks?
  Are the networks settings on the Wintendo boxes the same (other than IP
  address, of course)?

 yup and yup.

  What happens if you change the workgroup name on all the PC's to
  something else?

 tried changing the samba server and one of the oteima boxes I can't
 connect to to the workgroup Linux -- no joy. (Yes, I stopped and
 restarted nmbd and smbd).

 This connecting to some but not to others really has me stumped.

snip

OK, what do you mean by can't connect to to the workgroup Linux? The 
Wintendo box won't connect to the server? 
You said Win98 and ME, right? Hmmm... Are you using encrytped passwords? I 
doubt that it's an encrypted passwords problem, though. Unless the Wintendo 
machines had their Registry edited to pass unencrypted passwords and samba is 
expecting encrypted. But I thought that should still work...
Can you post your smb.conf?

Could it be case mangling (or whatever it's called)? I had a hell of a time 
with a Win 98 box at work because of that. 
Could it be a username/password problem?

Regards, 
Tim

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Strange Error Message

2002-11-28 Thread RBE
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I am running OpenOffice.org1.0.1 (latest stable release).  I have added 
Sun Microsystems jre 1.4.0 (supposedly needed for OOo) and also 
attempted to install KDE 3.05 (and failed).  Got out of 3.05 and back 
to 2.2.2 (will have to do a install from source later), but I have a 
strange problem with OOo's Writer.

Everything is fine except that, when I call up the Help on OOo, I get 
the index list, headers and icons, but all text is replaced with long 
underlines (however, the URL -- clickable links -- within the 
underlines still work).  I have no text in the Help files.

When I looked in .xsession-errors, I saw the following:

SIOCGIFADDR got '00:00:00:00:00:00'
SIOCGIFADDR got '00:00:00:00:00:00'
SIOCGIFADDR got '00:00:00:00:00:00'
SIOCGIFADDR got '00:00:00:00:00:00'

Occasionally, I will also get a kioslave SEG FAULT message, as well.  I 
have no idea what might be causing this.  I would appreciate any 
suggestions, no matter how bizarre.

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Re: Where did my diskspace go?

2002-11-28 Thread Alan Jackson
On Wed, 27 Nov 2002 22:58:49 -0600
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 On Wednesday 27 November 2002 12:29 pm, Alan Jackson wrote:
  You know, I've been using Unix and/or Linux for 14 years, and I just
  learned something. Thank you guys!!
 
  After reading everything, I decided I probably needed to fsck at
  minimum, so I just rebooted. Turned out the fsck ran automatically,
  the disk was corrupted, and now, instead of 100% full at 36 Gb, I get
  (Ta da!)
 
  Filesystem   1k-blocks  Used Available Use% Mounted on
  /dev/hdb1 38464340   5776132  30734304  16% /home
 
  Thanks again. It's just a shame I had to reset my uptime, I hadn't
  booted since May.
 
 Curse you, Masked Man!!!  I have to shutdown every time there's a 
 thunderstorm.
 

$100 for an UPS. Best investment I've made.


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Re: OK my hardware is screwed how to I diagnose it?

2002-11-28 Thread kwall
On Thu, Nov 28, 2002 at 03:58:19PM +, Bob Raymond wrote:

[...]

 However, their setup program usually works in Wine, so just make sure your 
 floppy is blank and mounted.  Unless you are so worried about system 
 infestation that you won't allow a floppy to boot PC DOS 2000 ;-)

What is PC DOS 2000, the DOS underneath Win2K?

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Re: Viewing mac files

2002-11-28 Thread kwall
On Thu, Nov 28, 2002 at 12:48:22PM -0500, Joel Hammer wrote:
 Is there a way on linux to view a file like this:
 BinHex binary text, version 4.0
 
 (This file must be converted with BinHex 4.0)
 :$dPZC'PKELKG#dB@*XC3+8%9(5PCA8J3!N!0PD`#30GVrpMri!!35NC*4J!
 etc.
 
 I have found the macutil package on my computer, and, and I can convert this
 package to data with binhex, but, from that point on I am stumped.

Grab the hfsutils package off the Slackware site. I believe it will
do everything you want and more. The package description:

hfsutils is a collection of tools for reading and writing Macintosh
HFS volumes.  These utilities can manipulate HFS volumes on nearly any
medium.  Since hfs and xhfs are linked with Tcl/Tk shared libraries,
the hfsutils package is included here in the TCL software series.

ftp://ftp.slackware.com/pub/slackware/slackware-current/slackware/tcl/hfsutils-3.2.6-i386-2.tgz
 

You can unpack it using the standard gunzip and tar combination.

Kurt
 Thanks,
 Joel
 
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Re: mozilla-1.2 is out

2002-11-28 Thread kwall
On Thu, Nov 28, 2002 at 10:25:38PM +0100, Klaus-Peter Schrage wrote:
 m.w.chang wrote:
 
 http://www.mozilla.org/release
 
 For Redhat 8.0, they offer two different sets of RPMs:  Xft support 
 and vanilla. Which one to choose? Are already there any observations?
 Klaus

I'd opt for the Xft support for its better font handling, but apparently
there are issues with Xft.

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Re: preferred routing daemon for linux

2002-11-28 Thread kwall
On Thu, Nov 28, 2002 at 01:23:08PM -0800, Keith Morse wrote:
 
 Just out of curiousity, what's the preferred flavour.  Routed?

Daemon-wise, routed is the only one I've ever heard of, which certainly
isn't to say it's the only one. Most people seem to use the offerings
from the Linux Router Project (http://www.linuxrouter.org/).

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Re: OK my hardware is screwed how to I diagnose it?

2002-11-28 Thread Bob Raymond
On Friday 29 November 2002 02:35 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Thu, Nov 28, 2002 at 03:58:19PM +, Bob Raymond wrote:

 [...]

  However, their setup program usually works in Wine, so just make sure
  your floppy is blank and mounted.  Unless you are so worried about system
  infestation that you won't allow a floppy to boot PC DOS 2000 ;-)

 What is PC DOS 2000, the DOS underneath Win2K?

 Kurt

No, there isn't any DOS in Win2k.  PC DOS 2000 is put out by IBM as totally 
separate- I guess something like DR-DOS.

Bob Raymond
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Re: rm is picky

2002-11-28 Thread m.w.chang
it's rm, not rmdir.. lucky blaster
but if you rm -f / ...hmm.. welll... not yet catastropic.
try rm -rf /   ...hohoho...

 rm: '/' is a directory
 
 well knock me out.
 

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Re: OK my hardware is screwed how to I diagnose it?

2002-11-28 Thread stayler
On Thu, 28 Nov 2002 07:01:29 -0800, Ted Ozolins wrote:

I've had this happen  because of heat and I've had this because of bad ram. 
Memtest has been mentioned by at least two prior postss, I suggest you use 
it.

May I add one other suggestion.  In similar instances, one thing I have
done that has been effective occasionally is to simply remove and
reseat every component in the system.  DIMM's and cards etc  This
have solve several curious problems for me in the past.

stayler

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Re: OT earthquake!

2002-11-28 Thread Jack Berger
More like 4 hrs from here. Never have skied it. Hiked it in the
fall recently.

Used to ski quite a bit (more than my ma and my wife could
tolerate), now it's about twice a year. Guess I used it all up
when I was younger.

From:  ronnie gauthier [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Lutsen is only what, three hours from you?...
 Do you still ski?
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Re: xd card reader

2002-11-28 Thread Marianne Taylor
Does this plug into a USB port?
I am using a dazzle smartcard reader without problem.  I have usb_core, EHCI 
and UHCI all built into my kernel (2.4.19) as well as usb_storage.  

Then I mount it as /dev/sda1  -t vfat /mnt/camera

(your device  may be different-- check the kernel messages for USB device)

And then I can access the photos.  

On November 28, 2002 10:02, you wrote:
 Anyone use the olympus (or fujifilm) smartmedia/xD dual card reader with
 success? I'm unable to make my fuji3800 work under linux, but I'm hoping
 the card reader might? Any clues?
 Thanks...
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