Re: SMP and kernel
On Mon, 16 Jun 2003 17:40:22 -0400 (EDT) Net Llama! [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm wondering why you're doing this in the first place. Why not just run a uniproc kernel? There are a few distros that deliver only SMP kernels. Our goal with a distro is to try and use it out-of-the-box, making changes only where needed. We use to do more customization in Unix, but have been trying a new approach in Linux. This also helps make our stuff 'distro agnostic', which we planed to be a good thing. -- ++···+ · Roger Oberholtzer · E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]· · OPQ Systems AB · WWW: http://www.opq.se/ · · Erik Dahlbergsgatan 41-43 ·Phone: Int + 46 8 314223 · · 115 34 Stockholm · Mobile: Int + 46 733 621657 · · Sweden · Fax: Int + 46 8 302602 · ++···+ ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: SCO vs. ...
On Mon, 16 Jun 2003 20:32:24 -0500 David A. Bandel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyone seen this in Cringley´s column? http://www.infoworld.com/article/03/06/16/24OPcringely_1.html Don't think I'd want to take on both IBM and ATT at the same time in different courtrooms, not even if I were M$. And SCO's not even close to that big. SCO reminds me more and more of the little mouse trying to suck an elephant through a straw. Yep. Then there is the oddly titled Swedish kid's show called (translated) 'Four ants are more than one elephant'. -- ++···+ · Roger Oberholtzer · E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]· · OPQ Systems AB · WWW: http://www.opq.se/ · · Erik Dahlbergsgatan 41-43 ·Phone: Int + 46 8 314223 · · 115 34 Stockholm · Mobile: Int + 46 733 621657 · · Sweden · Fax: Int + 46 8 302602 · ++···+ ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: SCO vs. ...
On Mon, 16 Jun 2003 22:24:51 -0400 dep [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: begin David A. Bandel's quote: | Don't think I'd want to take on both IBM and ATT at the same time | in different courtrooms, not even if I were M$. And SCO's not even | close to that big. my guess was that on about wednesday novell would announce that, actually, it had kept the ibm stuff, so sco was without standing there, too. And had to pay Novell part of the money that had been charging for licensing something SCO did not own. -- ++···+ · Roger Oberholtzer · E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]· · OPQ Systems AB · WWW: http://www.opq.se/ · · Erik Dahlbergsgatan 41-43 ·Phone: Int + 46 8 314223 · · 115 34 Stockholm · Mobile: Int + 46 733 621657 · · Sweden · Fax: Int + 46 8 302602 · ++···+ ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
SuSE upgrade
I have an SuSE 7.1 distro, which I am not using. It was bought for testing various distros but is not currently installed anywhere. I am looking to try SuSE 8.2. If I buy an upgrade, will it only install on an existing 7.1, or will it only ask for a CD to check that this is an upgrade? I don't seem to find info on this on SuSE's site. They just say upgrades are available. But not what the install requirements are for this. Any ideas? -- ++···+ · Roger Oberholtzer · E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]· · OPQ Systems AB · WWW: http://www.opq.se/ · · Erik Dahlbergsgatan 41-43 ·Phone: Int + 46 8 314223 · · 115 34 Stockholm · Mobile: Int + 46 733 621657 · · Sweden · Fax: Int + 46 8 302602 · ++···+ ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Redhat 9 and KDE
I remember seeing that redhat did some wild integration of KDE and Gnome in their latest release. I never did get a feel for whether you could still run KDE with its own look. Is this possible? If so, is it so without hassle? -- ++···+ · Roger Oberholtzer · E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]· · OPQ Systems AB · WWW: http://www.opq.se/ · · Erik Dahlbergsgatan 41-43 ·Phone: Int + 46 8 314223 · · 115 34 Stockholm · Mobile: Int + 46 733 621657 · · Sweden · Fax: Int + 46 8 302602 · ++···+ ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Redhat 9 and KDE
On Tue, 2003-06-17 at 04:13, Roger Oberholtzer wrote: I remember seeing that redhat did some wild integration of KDE and Gnome in their latest release. I never did get a feel for whether you could still run KDE with its own look. Is this possible? If so, is it so without hassle? Yes it is, just select a different theme for the various components (desktop theme, icon theme, etc). Also, if you're interested, the newest KDE available from ftp.kde.org installs cleanly and gets rid of the Blue Curve look as a default. BTW Ximian Desktop 2 (XD2) installs quite nicely (I downloaded the RPMs and installed them myself) and completes the purging of Blue Curve ;-) HTH -- Myles Green [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Redhat 9 and KDE
On Tue, 17 Jun 2003 04:36:48 -0600 Myles Green [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 2003-06-17 at 04:13, Roger Oberholtzer wrote: I remember seeing that redhat did some wild integration of KDE and Gnome in their latest release. I never did get a feel for whether you could still run KDE with its own look. Is this possible? If so, is it so without hassle? Yes it is, just select a different theme for the various components (desktop theme, icon theme, etc). Also, if you're interested, the newest KDE available from ftp.kde.org installs cleanly and gets rid of the Blue Curve look as a default. BTW Ximian Desktop 2 (XD2) installs quite nicely (I downloaded the RPMs and installed them myself) and completes the purging of Blue Curve ;-) We are trying to see how far we can go with a distro without changing things. Updates beyond the original CDs are avoided when possible. -- ++···+ · Roger Oberholtzer · E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]· · OPQ Systems AB · WWW: http://www.opq.se/ · · Erik Dahlbergsgatan 41-43 ·Phone: Int + 46 8 314223 · · 115 34 Stockholm · Mobile: Int + 46 733 621657 · · Sweden · Fax: Int + 46 8 302602 · ++···+ ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: SuSE upgrade
begin Roger Oberholtzer's quote: | I have an SuSE 7.1 distro, which I am not using. It was bought for | testing various distros but is not currently installed anywhere. I | am looking to try SuSE 8.2. If I buy an upgrade, will it only | install on an existing 7.1, or will it only ask for a CD to check | that this is an upgrade? I don't seem to find info on this on | SuSE's site. They just say upgrades are available. But not what the | install requirements are for this. Any ideas? unless something has changed drastically with 8.2, the upgrade is identical to the full distribution, and the upgrade price is more a repeat customer reward than anything else. -- dep http://www.linuxandmain.com -- outside the box, barely within the envelope, and no animated paperclip anywhere. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: SuSE upgrade
On Tue, 17 Jun 2003 07:55:09 -0400 dep [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: begin Roger Oberholtzer's quote: | I have an SuSE 7.1 distro, which I am not using. It was bought for | testing various distros but is not currently installed anywhere. I | am looking to try SuSE 8.2. If I buy an upgrade, will it only | install on an existing 7.1, or will it only ask for a CD to check | that this is an upgrade? I don't seem to find info on this on | SuSE's site. They just say upgrades are available. But not what the | install requirements are for this. Any ideas? unless something has changed drastically with 8.2, the upgrade is identical to the full distribution, and the upgrade price is more a repeat customer reward than anything else. So it is up to the reseller to enforce that it is an upgrade? Seems the one I am using does not bother... -- ++···+ · Roger Oberholtzer · E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]· · OPQ Systems AB · WWW: http://www.opq.se/ · · Erik Dahlbergsgatan 41-43 ·Phone: Int + 46 8 314223 · · 115 34 Stockholm · Mobile: Int + 46 733 621657 · · Sweden · Fax: Int + 46 8 302602 · ++···+ ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Redhat 9 and KDE
On Tue, 2003-06-17 at 05:24, Roger Oberholtzer wrote: On Tue, 17 Jun 2003 04:36:48 -0600 Myles Green [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 2003-06-17 at 04:13, Roger Oberholtzer wrote: I remember seeing that redhat did some wild integration of KDE and Gnome in their latest release. I never did get a feel for whether you could still run KDE with its own look. Is this possible? If so, is it so without hassle? Yes it is, just select a different theme for the various components (desktop theme, icon theme, etc). Also, if you're interested, the newest KDE available from ftp.kde.org installs cleanly and gets rid of the Blue Curve look as a default. BTW Ximian Desktop 2 (XD2) installs quite nicely (I downloaded the RPMs and installed them myself) and completes the purging of Blue Curve ;-) We are trying to see how far we can go with a distro without changing things. Updates beyond the original CDs are avoided when possible. Then the answer is still yes, just look through the various settings under themes, icons etc. -- Myles Green [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Redhat 9 and KDE
We are trying to see how far we can go with a distro without changing things. Updates beyond the original CDs are avoided when possible. Then the answer is still yes, just look through the various settings under themes, icons etc. Great. RH9 arrives tomorrow. Let's see what it does. -- ++···+ · Roger Oberholtzer · E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]· · OPQ Systems AB · WWW: http://www.opq.se/ · · Erik Dahlbergsgatan 41-43 ·Phone: Int + 46 8 314223 · · 115 34 Stockholm · Mobile: Int + 46 733 621657 · · Sweden · Fax: Int + 46 8 302602 · ++···+ ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Redhat 9 and KDE
On 6/17/2003 8:36 AM, someone claiming to be Myles Green wrote: On Tue, 2003-06-17 at 05:24, Roger Oberholtzer wrote: On Tue, 17 Jun 2003 04:36:48 -0600 Myles Green [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 2003-06-17 at 04:13, Roger Oberholtzer wrote: I remember seeing that redhat did some wild integration of KDE and Gnome in their latest release. I never did get a feel for whether you could still run KDE with its own look. Is this possible? If so, is it so without hassle? Yes it is, just select a different theme for the various components (desktop theme, icon theme, etc). Also, if you're interested, the newest KDE available from ftp.kde.org installs cleanly and gets rid of the Blue Curve look as a default. BTW Ximian Desktop 2 (XD2) installs quite nicely (I downloaded the RPMs and installed them myself) and completes the purging of Blue Curve ;-) We are trying to see how far we can go with a distro without changing things. Updates beyond the original CDs are avoided when possible. Then the answer is still yes, just look through the various settings under themes, icons etc. Kinda off-thread, but there's also the kde-redhat project, http://kde-redhat.sf.net, which, when combined with apt for rpm, provides an easy way to keep kde up to date. Regards, Tim ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Redhat 9 and KDE
Kinda off-thread, but there's also the kde-redhat project, http://kde-redhat.sf.net, which, when combined with apt for rpm, provides an easy way to keep kde up to date. The main reason we have tried not to rely on these types of things is that the systems are in vehicles out on the road. We try to make it 'simple' to do a field reinstall, should the case arise. Although it hardly ever does, if we change this goal, I just know field installs will become common... For home use, I am a Gentoo/emerge devotee. -- ++···+ · Roger Oberholtzer · E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]· · OPQ Systems AB · WWW: http://www.opq.se/ · · Erik Dahlbergsgatan 41-43 ·Phone: Int + 46 8 314223 · · 115 34 Stockholm · Mobile: Int + 46 733 621657 · · Sweden · Fax: Int + 46 8 302602 · ++···+ ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: SMP and kernel
Which distros do this? It sounds like pure laziness on their part for not supplying two kernels. On Tue, 17 Jun 2003, Roger Oberholtzer wrote: On Mon, 16 Jun 2003 17:40:22 -0400 (EDT) Net Llama! [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm wondering why you're doing this in the first place. Why not just run a uniproc kernel? There are a few distros that deliver only SMP kernels. Our goal with a distro is to try and use it out-of-the-box, making changes only where needed. We use to do more customization in Unix, but have been trying a new approach in Linux. This also helps make our stuff 'distro agnostic', which we planed to be a good thing. -- ~~ Lonni J Friedman[EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step TyGeMo http://netllama.ipfox.com ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
OT Re: Redhat 9 and KDE
On 6/17/2003 8:56 AM, someone claiming to be Roger Oberholtzer wrote: Kinda off-thread, but there's also the kde-redhat project, http://kde-redhat.sf.net, which, when combined with apt for rpm, provides an easy way to keep kde up to date. The main reason we have tried not to rely on these types of things is that the systems are in vehicles out on the road. We try to make it 'simple' to do a field reinstall, should the case arise. Although it hardly ever does, if we change this goal, I just know field installs will become common... For home use, I am a Gentoo/emerge devotee. Understood. That's why I said it was kinda off-thread as it doesn't apply to your situation. But others may not know about the kde-redhat project, so I threw it out there. FWIW, I keep the main kde installation up to date (currently kde 3.1.2, RHL 8.0) using apt and the kde-redhat project, for use by the wife and kids. Personally, I run KDE from CVS. Just started building what will be 3.2, but haven't actually run it on a regular basis. Sticking with 3.1 branch for now. (Yes, I have two CVS versions of kde installed, plus a released version.) Regards, Tim ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Redhat 9 and KDE
Roger Oberholtzer wrote: I remember seeing that redhat did some wild integration of KDE and Gnome in their latest release. I never did get a feel for whether you could still run KDE with its own look. Is this possible? If so, is it so without hassle? IIRC, there is an option under KDE to set it to the default KDE look. I can't provide more specific info as I no longer have access to a RH 9.0 system, but I do recall seeing it as an option somewhere. BOF ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: SMP and kernel
On Tue, 17 Jun 2003 09:08:34 -0400 (EDT) Net Llama! [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Which distros do this? It sounds like pure laziness on their part for not supplying two kernels. One is 'that distro which shall not be named', a.k.a. Caldera COL 3.1x. -- ++···+ · Roger Oberholtzer · E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]· · OPQ Systems AB · WWW: http://www.opq.se/ · · Erik Dahlbergsgatan 41-43 ·Phone: Int + 46 8 314223 · · 115 34 Stockholm · Mobile: Int + 46 733 621657 · · Sweden · Fax: Int + 46 8 302602 · ++···+ ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: SuSE upgrade
On Tuesday 17 June 2003 8:07 am, Roger Oberholtzer wrote: On Tue, 17 Jun 2003 07:55:09 -0400 dep [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: begin Roger Oberholtzer's quote: | I have an SuSE 7.1 distro, which I am not using. It was bought for | testing various distros but is not currently installed anywhere. I | am looking to try SuSE 8.2. If I buy an upgrade, will it only | install on an existing 7.1, or will it only ask for a CD to check | that this is an upgrade? I don't seem to find info on this on | SuSE's site. They just say upgrades are available. But not what | the install requirements are for this. Any ideas? unless something has changed drastically with 8.2, the upgrade is identical to the full distribution, and the upgrade price is more a repeat customer reward than anything else. So it is up to the reseller to enforce that it is an upgrade? Seems the one I am using does not bother... The only difference with the upgrade is that it does not include any of the manuals. I don't think SuSE cares whether you already own a copy of a prev. release or not. -- ++ + Bruce S. Marshall [EMAIL PROTECTED] Bellaire, MI 06/17/03 10:28 + ++ Yesterday, my eyeglass prescription ran out. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: SMP and kernel
On Tue, 17 Jun 2003 09:29:04 -0400 (EDT) Net Llama! [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 17 Jun 2003, Roger Oberholtzer wrote: On Tue, 17 Jun 2003 09:08:34 -0400 (EDT) Net Llama! [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Which distros do this? It sounds like pure laziness on their part for not supplying two kernels. One is 'that distro which shall not be named', a.k.a. Caldera COL 3.1x. That doesn't count. Its not even being sold any more. Hence the search for a new distro. Something 'off-the'shelf', which COL 2.4 and 3.1.1 were for us. We are considering RH 9 and SuSE 8.2. My previous test of SuSE 7.2 was a mixed thing. Impressive number of applications. However, many simply dumped core. Time for the next round. Of course, at home I use and really like Gentoo. But I would not deploy in a mobile production system. -- Roger Oberholtzer ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: bootable Redhat based CD?
On Tue, 10 Jun 2003, Bruce Marshall wrote: Just a thought but have you looked at Bernard's bootable linux on freshmeat? freshmeat.net/projects/bblcd/?topic_id=147%2C866 It has all you need to build a bootable CD from your currently running distro. I did this once on an SuSE distro and it worked pretty well. I think it needs the minix fs though but that's pretty easy to add to the kernel. This is working out perfectly, thanks so much. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Redhat 9 and KDE
On Tue, 17 Jun 2003 07:16:46 -0600 bof [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Roger Oberholtzer wrote: I remember seeing that redhat did some wild integration of KDE and Gnome intheir latest release. I never did get a feel for whether you could stillrun KDE with its own look. Is this possible? If so, is it so without hassle? IIRC, there is an option under KDE to set it to the default KDE look. I can't provide more specific info as I no longer have access to a RH 9.0 system, but I do recall seeing it as an option somewhere. It will be one of the first things I look for! BOF ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: SMP and kernel
On Tue, 17 Jun 2003, Roger Oberholtzer wrote: On Tue, 17 Jun 2003 09:29:04 -0400 (EDT) Net Llama! [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 17 Jun 2003, Roger Oberholtzer wrote: On Tue, 17 Jun 2003 09:08:34 -0400 (EDT) Net Llama! [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Which distros do this? It sounds like pure laziness on their part for not supplying two kernels. One is 'that distro which shall not be named', a.k.a. Caldera COL 3.1x. That doesn't count. Its not even being sold any more. Hence the search for a new distro. Something 'off-the'shelf', which COL 2.4 and 3.1.1 were for us. We are considering RH 9 and SuSE 8.2. My previous test of SuSE 7.2 was a mixed thing. Impressive number of applications. However, many simply dumped core. Time for the next round. Of course, at home I use and really like Gentoo. But I would not deploy in a mobile production system. I've been using the XFS version of RH9 on two of my laptops for abou a month now. It seems to be fairly solid. It will most likely be what i upgrade to for my existing production RH-7.3 boxen. -- ~~ Lonni J Friedman[EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step TyGeMo http://netllama.ipfox.com ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: bootable Redhat based CD?
On Tuesday 17 June 2003 12:17 pm, Net Llama! wrote: On Tue, 10 Jun 2003, Bruce Marshall wrote: Just a thought but have you looked at Bernard's bootable linux on freshmeat? freshmeat.net/projects/bblcd/?topic_id=147%2C866 It has all you need to build a bootable CD from your currently running distro. I did this once on an SuSE distro and it worked pretty well. I think it needs the minix fs though but that's pretty easy to add to the kernel. This is working out perfectly, thanks so much. You're quite welcome ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users -- ++ + Bruce S. Marshall [EMAIL PROTECTED] Bellaire, MI 06/17/03 12:25 + ++ You might be a high-tech Red-neck if: your spouse sends you an e-mail instead of calling you to dinner ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Linus to work full-time on Linux
June 17, 2003 Linus Torvalds Joins Development Group By THE ASSOCIATED PRESS Filed at 3:30 p.m. ET SAN JOSE, Calif. (AP) -- The creator of the Linux operating system is joining a global development group to focus on further improving the open-source software. Linus Torvalds said Tuesday he is taking a leave from his research job at chip-maker Transmeta Corp. He will become the first fellow at the Beaverton, Ore.-based Open Source Development Lab, which is funded by high-tech companies to, among other things, enhance Linux for corporate data centers. At the lab, he will focus on the next major revision of the Linux core, or kernel. ``It feels a bit strange to finally officially work on what I've been doing for the last 12 years, but with the upcoming 2.6.x release it makes sense to be able to concentrate fully on Linux,'' he said. Torvalds, then a university student in Finland, created Linux in 1991 to bring the power and reliability of the Unix operating system to relatively inexpensive computers based on Intel Corp. microprocessors. He freely distributed the software, requiring that improvements also be open and freely distributed. In recent years, it has become a low-cost alternative to proprietary Unix operating systems such as Hewlett-Packard Co.'s HP/UX, IBM Corp.'s AIX and Sun Microsystems Inc.'s Solaris. Some companies and government agencies also have embraced Linux over the dominant Windows operating system from Microsoft Corp. The research firm Gartner predicts Linux may have 15 percent of the worldwide server market by 2007. Torvalds, who joined Transmeta before it launched its Crusoe microprocessor in 2000, is taking an indefinite leave from the chip maker. Neither he nor the company have elaborated on his role at Transmeta since he joined six years ago. The Open Source Development Lab is sponsored by Computer Associates, Fujitsu, Hitachi, HP, IBM, Intel, NEC and others. __ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo. http://search.yahoo.com ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
cu: /dev/ttyS0: Line in use
At this point I think I've about run out of ideas as to what could be causing such an error, as a short while ago I was able to make a connection using the serial port. What I'm trying to do is configure a terminal server, and I need to get access to it through a serial port to configure its network interface. The particular machine I'm using supports serial console redirection, but I've disabled that in the bios. I also removed the flags in the boot loader that redirect output to the serial port upon system boot, and also disabled any console running there in /etc/inittab. At the moment 'lsof | grep /dev/ttyS0' doesn't return anything. Just in case the terminal server itself (which was reset to factory defaults for a reinstall), somehow was attempting to make a connection to the particular serial port in question I powered it down, but that made no difference. Can anyone suggest anywhere else to look for the source of the problem? David Aikema ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
OT Textmaker for Linux from Softmaker software
Has anyone had any experience with these folks? How do you get them to respond? I purchased the Linux CD version, they send me registration info for Textmaker fro Windows and Pocket PC's. I email them 6 times in 2 weeks, no response. Today I get the CD for Textmaker for Windows and Pocket PC's (useless to me). Any imput appreciated. Harry G ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: OT Textmaker for Linux from Softmaker software
On Tuesday 17 June 2003 02:20 pm, Harry Giles wrote: Has anyone had any experience with these folks? How do you get them to respond? I purchased the Linux CD version, they send me registration info for Textmaker fro Windows and Pocket PC's. I email them 6 times in 2 weeks, no response. Today I get the CD for Textmaker for Windows and Pocket PC's (useless to me). Any imput appreciated. Harry G I use Text Maker; it's pretty decent. I had some problems getting ahold of them and when I mentioned it to them, they seemed amazed that I couldn't get ahold of them. I think they might have some dead e-mail addresses. Try this guy: Martin Kotulla [EMAIL PROTECTED] and tell him I sent you. -- Tony Alfrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'd Rather Be Sailing ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: OT Textmaker for Linux from Softmaker software
begin Harry Giles's quote: | Has anyone had any experience with these folks? How do you get | them to respond? tony's response is accurate. are you sure the linux version isn't on the cd also? (i have the download version and keep *numerous* backups, because after using it for six weeks or so i would be utterly lost without it, so i'm prepared for everything i can be short of a direct nuclear hit. for what i do, it's by far the best linux word processor i've seen and, with the possible exception of describe, the best, period.) -- dep http://www.linuxandmain.com -- outside the box, barely within the envelope, and no animated paperclip anywhere. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: cu: /dev/ttyS0: Line in use
Grasping at straws, an stale lock file perhaps? ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: OT Textmaker for Linux from Softmaker software
On Tue June 17 2003 06:49 pm, dep wrote: begin Harry Giles's quote: | Has anyone had any experience with these folks? How do you get | them to respond? tony's response is accurate. are you sure the linux version isn't on the cd also? snip I just checked, just a pdf file, and 2 .exe files. Me be sad. 8-( I agree with you, Dep. It is a GREAT program. I am using the demo right now, but I need to be able to save in .doc file format, which the demo won't do. I sent an email to the person that Tony suggested. They are 6 hours ahead of me in EST, which would make it 2:49 AM. Hopefully, I will find out soon. Unfortunately, I have to go to Marco Island Fl. tomorrow for a overnight job, so I will have to wait until Thursday. Thanks for you help though. because of your review at Linux and Main, I gave it a try. Huum. I guess that makes you kind of responsible, huh? If it doesn't get straightened out, you can send me a check or money order for $68.99. Ah, you just wrote a review. You can just pay half. 8-) Just kidding. Harry G ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: cu: /dev/ttyS0: Line in use
On Tuesday, June 17, 2003, at 04:13 PM, Keith Morse wrote: Grasping at straws, an stale lock file perhaps? Any idea how I'd go about locating something like that? David Aikema ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: cu: /dev/ttyS0: Line in use
On 06/17/03 18:54, David Aikema wrote: On Tuesday, June 17, 2003, at 04:13 PM, Keith Morse wrote: Grasping at straws, an stale lock file perhaps? Any idea how I'd go about locating something like that? /var/lock ?? -- ~ L. Friedman[EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step TyGeMo:http://netllama.ipfox.com 7:00pm up 2 days, 23:44, 1 user, load average: 0.08, 0.07, 0.02 ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: cu: /dev/ttyS0: Line in use
On Tuesday, June 17, 2003, at 07:01 PM, Net Llama! wrote: On 06/17/03 18:54, David Aikema wrote: On Tuesday, June 17, 2003, at 04:13 PM, Keith Morse wrote: Grasping at straws, an stale lock file perhaps? Any idea how I'd go about locating something like that? /var/lock ?? Thanks. There was a uucp directory in there, but it was empty, so I'm thinking that its only purpose would be to create an area where the uucp user could have write access to create locks. Does that sound right? David Aikema ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: cu: /dev/ttyS0: Line in use
Quoth David Aikema: On Tuesday, June 17, 2003, at 04:13 PM, Keith Morse wrote: Grasping at straws, an stale lock file perhaps? Any idea how I'd go about locating something like that? /var/run or /var/lock? K -- It was a virgin forest, a place where the Hand of Man had never set foot. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: cu: /dev/ttyS0: Line in use
On Tuesday, June 17, 2003, at 07:38 PM, Kurt Wall wrote: Quoth David Aikema: On Tuesday, June 17, 2003, at 04:13 PM, Keith Morse wrote: Grasping at straws, an stale lock file perhaps? Any idea how I'd go about locating something like that? /var/run or /var/lock? There's nothing that seems relevant in /var/run right now David Aikema ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: cu: /dev/ttyS0: Line in use
On 06/17/03 20:03, David Aikema wrote: On Tuesday, June 17, 2003, at 07:38 PM, Kurt Wall wrote: Quoth David Aikema: On Tuesday, June 17, 2003, at 04:13 PM, Keith Morse wrote: Grasping at straws, an stale lock file perhaps? Any idea how I'd go about locating something like that? /var/run or /var/lock? There's nothing that seems relevant in /var/run right now http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=enlr=lang_enie=UTF-8oe=UTF-8safe=offthreadm=fa.gmucrhv.77ueg1%40ifi.uio.nornum=1prev=/groups%3Fas_epq%3D/dev/ttyS0%253A%2520Line%2520in%2520use%26safe%3Doff%26ie%3DUTF-8%26oe%3DUTF-8%26lr%3Dlang_en%26num%3D50%26hl%3Den http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=enlr=lang_enie=UTF-8oe=UTF-8safe=offthreadm=fa.gdlrclv.6k8top%40ifi.uio.nornum=6prev=/groups%3Fas_epq%3D/dev/ttyS0%253A%2520Line%2520in%2520use%26safe%3Doff%26ie%3DUTF-8%26oe%3DUTF-8%26lr%3Dlang_en%26num%3D50%26hl%3Den -- ~ L. Friedman[EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step TyGeMo:http://netllama.ipfox.com 8:05pm up 3 days, 49 min, 1 user, load average: 0.21, 0.34, 0.34 ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
