Re: 2.6-test5 problem

2003-09-13 Thread Keith Antoine
On Sat, 13 Sep 2003 10:44 am, Bruce Marshall wrote:

 Thanks for the tips...What I just tried (and it's working so far) is
 to go back to 'make mrproper'  and after adding in XFS and EXT3  and
 making sure the cpu was set properly, I just compiled the damn thing.

 Lots of stuff missing but at least it is booting and I can slowly tweak
 it to see where it breaks.

 But that's progressIt may be that I missed some of the cpu
 options on the first go-around when I saw that it correctly set the cpu
 type to  P4.

I read somewhere in the docs etc for 2.5/2.6 that one no longer calls make 
mrproper or make dep.

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Re: Helloooooo...

2003-09-13 Thread Klaus-Peter Schrage
Mike Reinehr schrieb:
No, you've got that just backwards. All email is being delivered to a server 
located in your local post office, where it is printed. This printed copy is 
then delivered to the recipients local post office by 25 year old mule-back, 
tramp steamer, etc. Upon being delivered, it is then scanned and, finally, 
emailed to it's ultimate destination. The USPS has to justify all that fancy 
sorting  delivery equipment.  Not to mention all those high priced managers. 
At least one of those high priced US Postal officers has proven to be 
quite fast: Lance Armstrong.
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Re: Gentoo problem compiling modules

2003-09-13 Thread David A. Bandel
On Thu, 11 Sep 2003 20:31:26 -0400
Brett I. Holcomb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 You run make menuconfig which gives you a menu of stuff that you can 
 change.  When you exit and save the file .config in /usr/src/linux is 
 created or modified.  It uses that to figure out what to build.

Yes, but .config should _not_ be edited by hand.  There are dependency
issues and you can more likely than not configure a kernel that won't
compile (which is what `make [x|menu]config` is designed to handle.  A
non-compilable kernel is much less likely using the tools provided.

But knock yourself out!

Ciao,

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Re: Mozilla Font Uglies - Any Idea what I am doing wrong?

2003-09-13 Thread Net Llama!
Looks like a funky charset, like UTF8 or something.  I don't know that this 
is a build issue as much as a configuration issue.

On 09/12/03 21:27, James McDonald wrote:

Folks,

This link is to a display error I am getting with some web pages and 
emails in mozilla.

   http://www.jamesmcdonald.id.au/gallery/Tech-Stuff/mozilla_mail_error

Looking at the mozconfig options below can anyone see what options I 
need to turn off/on to stop this? Or is it something with my system?

I am running redhat 9.0 with a standard xfs / xft / freetype2 etc 
install with the exception of adding Windows fonts to X using the wine 
./font_convert.sh script to convert the *.fon files to a *.pcf format 
and the usual ttmkfdir  mkfontdir  /usr/sbin/chkfontpath -a for the ttf's

Any insight would be very welcome.

# sh
# Build configuration script
#
# See http://www.mozilla.org/build/unix.html for build instructions.
#
# Options for 'configure' (same as command-line options).
ac_add_options --with-pthreads
ac_add_options --with-system-nspr
ac_add_options --with-system-jpeg=/usr
ac_add_options --with-system-zlib=/usr
ac_add_options --with-system-png=/usr
ac_add_options --enable-default-toolkit=gtk2
ac_add_options --enable-calendar
ac_add_options --enable-xft
ac_add_options --enable-crypto
ac_add_options --enable-native-uconv
ac_add_options --enable-ldap-experimental
ac_add_options --enable-svg
ac_add_options --disable-debug
ac_add_options --enable-reorder
ac_add_options --enable-strip
ac_add_options --enable-xterm-updates
ac_add_options --with-default-mozilla-five-home=/usr/lib/mozilla
#ac_add_options --disable-shared
#ac_add_options --enable-static
ac_add_options --enable-optimize
mk_add_options MOZ_OBJDIR=/home/james/downloads/mozilla/mozilla-obj
export MOZ_INTERNAL_LIBART_LGPL=1
mk_add_options MOZ_INTERNAL_LIBART_LGPL=1
MOZILLA_OFFICIAL=1
export MOZILLA_OFFICIAL
BUILD_OFFICIAL=1
export BUILD_OFFICIAL


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Re: 2.6-test5 problem

2003-09-13 Thread Bruce Marshall
On Saturday 13 September 2003 4:02 am, Keith Antoine wrote:
 On Sat, 13 Sep 2003 10:44 am, Bruce Marshall wrote:
  Thanks for the tips...What I just tried (and it's working so
  far) is to go back to 'make mrproper'  and after adding in XFS and
  EXT3  and making sure the cpu was set properly, I just compiled the
  damn thing.
 
  Lots of stuff missing but at least it is booting and I can slowly
  tweak it to see where it breaks.
 
  But that's progressIt may be that I missed some of the cpu
  options on the first go-around when I saw that it correctly set the
  cpu type to  P4.

 I read somewhere in the docs etc for 2.5/2.6 that one no longer calls
 make mrproper or make dep.

David's poop sheet says you should only run mrproper when something major 
has changed.  I only run it once - when I set up for a new kernel 
release.   And dep isn't used anymore.

I now have the kernel running with the only problem being that I can't 
get the aic7xxx code to compile.  This was also a problem in the 2.4.22 
code.



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Re: Burning bootable CDs with XCDRoast

2003-09-13 Thread Brett I. Holcomb
No - I have it handy and am most familiar with it but I'm not afraid of the 
command line G.  I'll check that out and see how to tell it to make it 
bootable.

Ken Moffat wrote:

 Brett I. Holcomb wrote:
 
I'm attempting to burn a bootable CD with XCDRoast (.98alpha10) and it's
not working.   I have an iso that I need to make into a bootable CD.

I follow the docs at the xcdroast.org site and set up the iso under the
Write tracks section - it's selected, the layout is accepted and the iso
shows up as being selected.

I then go to the Master tracks section and set it up for El Torito boot by
pointing it to a 1.44 floppy image and telling it to make it bootable.

However, when I boot of the CD it says 2.88MB image and then failed to
boot.  I know I'm overlooking something obvious here.  Any help is
appreciated.

Thanks.

  

 Are you stuck on xcdroast?
 (Is this too elementary?)
 I usually use the command line ( as root ):
 cdrecord -v speed=2 dev=0,0,0 name_of_your.iso
 
 first determine the device using cdrecord --scanbus; mine is device
 0,0,0, yours may differ. you can try a higher speed...
 

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Re: Burning bootable CDs with XCDRoast

2003-09-13 Thread Brett I. Holcomb
Thank you.  I'll try this.

James McDonald wrote:

 Brett I. Holcomb wrote:
 
I'm attempting to burn a bootable CD with XCDRoast (.98alpha10) and it's
not working.   I have an iso that I need to make into a bootable CD.

I follow the docs at the xcdroast.org site and set up the iso under the
Write tracks section - it's selected, the layout is accepted and the iso
shows up as being selected.

I then go to the Master tracks section and set it up for El Torito boot by
pointing it to a 1.44 floppy image and telling it to make it bootable.

However, when I boot of the CD it says 2.88MB image and then failed to
boot.  I know I'm overlooking something obvious here.  Any help is
appreciated.

Thanks.

  

 This works for me and I have successfully used xcdroast to burn the
 resulting iso to be used as a bootable cd
 
1. Create a directory in a convenient place
   mkdir $HOME/cd_build
2. Create a subdirectory to hold the boot image
   mkdir cd_build/boot
3. cd cd_build
4. Copy the floppy image you want to boot from off the floppy
   dd if=/dev/fd0 of=boot/boot.img bs=1k count=1440
5. Now add all the files you want burnt onto cd to the cd_build dir
6. Run the command to create the iso image (don't forget the dot at
   the end)
   mkisofs -r -b boot/boot.img -c boot/boot.catalog -o bootcd.iso .
7. Using your favourite burning software burn the bootcd.iso file to a
CD
 
 http://www.jamesmcdonald.id.au/faqs/mine/bootable_cd_linux.html

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Re: Burning bootable CDs with XCDRoast

2003-09-13 Thread Brett I. Holcomb
Hmm, I was afraid of that.  My impression of an iso was that it was the 
equivalent of what VMS calls a full image backup - it's the whole drive and 
when you restore it you get the whole drive.


ronnie gauthier wrote:

 What you are trying to do is combine the config of creating your own ISO
 to an already made one. The ISO is what it is, that is why you just copy
 and burn one. The master is for creating your own ISO. You need ot rip an
 ISO and remaster it to change it.
 
 
  On Fri, 12 Sep 2003 22:47:31 -0400 - Brett I. Holcomb
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote the following
 Re: Burning bootable CDs with XCDRoast
 
I'm attempting to burn a bootable CD with XCDRoast (.98alpha10) and it's
not working.   I have an iso that I need to make into a bootable CD.

I follow the docs at the xcdroast.org site and set up the iso under the
Write tracks section - it's selected, the layout is accepted and the iso
shows up as being selected.

I then go to the Master tracks section and set it up for El Torito boot by
pointing it to a 1.44 floppy image and telling it to make it bootable.

However, when I boot of the CD it says 2.88MB image and then failed to
boot.  I know I'm overlooking something obvious here.  Any help is
appreciated.

Thanks.

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Re: Burning bootable CDs with XCDRoast

2003-09-13 Thread Brett I. Holcomb
Yes, I need the info in the iso.  The iso is created by a backup program to 
be used for bare metal recovery.  The backup server creates an iso that can 
be used to backup/restore the client machine from the tape library.



James McDonald wrote:

 ronnie gauthier wrote:
 
What you are trying to do is combine the config of creating your own ISO
to an already made one. The ISO is what it is, that is why you just copy
and burn one. The master is for creating your own ISO. You need ot rip an
ISO and remaster it to change it.

  

 If the stuff in your iso is needed you can access the contents of an iso
 thusly
 
 http://www.jamesmcdonald.id.au/faqs/mine/rh72install.html#mount_iso

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Re: Gentoo problem compiling modules

2003-09-13 Thread Brett I. Holcomb
Exactly my point.  The orignal poster of this thread was wondering about 
editing .config by hand.  In one of my posts I told him it's not 
recommended.  This post was in response to how the process worked.

David A. Bandel wrote:

 On Thu, 11 Sep 2003 20:31:26 -0400
 Brett I. Holcomb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 You run make menuconfig which gives you a menu of stuff that you can
 change.  When you exit and save the file .config in /usr/src/linux is
 created or modified.  It uses that to figure out what to build.
 
 Yes, but .config should _not_ be edited by hand.  There are dependency
 issues and you can more likely than not configure a kernel that won't
 compile (which is what `make [x|menu]config` is designed to handle.  A
 non-compilable kernel is much less likely using the tools provided.
 
 But knock yourself out!
 
 Ciao,
 
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Re: Burning bootable CDs with XCDRoast

2003-09-13 Thread Ken Moffat
Brett I. Holcomb wrote:

No - I have it handy and am most familiar with it but I'm not afraid of the 
command line G.  I'll check that out and see how to tell it to make it 
bootable.

 

Ken Moffat wrote:

 incorrect answer

I should have read the rest of the postings.

here's a link...

http://www.linux.org/docs/ldp/howto/Bootdisk-HOWTO/cd-roms.html



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Re: Gentoo problem compiling modules

2003-09-13 Thread Collins Richey
On Sat, 13 Sep 2003 06:53:07 -0500
David A. Bandel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Thu, 11 Sep 2003 20:31:26 -0400
 Brett I. Holcomb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  You run make menuconfig which gives you a menu of stuff that you can
  
  change.  When you exit and save the file .config in /usr/src/linux
  is created or modified.  It uses that to figure out what to build.
 
 Yes, but .config should _not_ be edited by hand.  There are dependency
 issues and you can more likely than not configure a kernel that won't
 compile (which is what `make [x|menu]config` is designed to handle.  A
 non-compilable kernel is much less likely using the tools provided.
 
 But knock yourself out!

Yep, change was a little too much shorthand.  change means, as I
posted earlier,  make xxxconfig, load a saved config file, make changes,
save the config to your saved config file, save to .config by exiting. 
Sorry for the confusion.


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Re: Burning bootable CDs with XCDRoast

2003-09-13 Thread Brett I. Holcomb
Thanks.  However, can I use an old bootable dos disk or do I have to have a 
LILO floppy?


Ken Moffat wrote:

 Brett I. Holcomb wrote:
 
No - I have it handy and am most familiar with it but I'm not afraid of
the
command line G.  I'll check that out and see how to tell it to make it
bootable.

  

 
 Ken Moffat wrote:
 
 
   incorrect answer
 
 I should have read the rest of the postings.
 
 here's a link...
 
 http://www.linux.org/docs/ldp/howto/Bootdisk-HOWTO/cd-roms.html
 
 
 

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Re: Helloooooo...

2003-09-13 Thread Bill Campbell
On Sat, Sep 13, 2003, Klaus-Peter Schrage wrote:
Mike Reinehr schrieb:
No, you've got that just backwards. All email is being delivered to a 
server located in your local post office, where it is printed. This 
printed copy is then delivered to the recipients local post office by 25 
year old mule-back, tramp steamer, etc. Upon being delivered, it is then 
scanned and, finally, emailed to it's ultimate destination. The USPS has 
to justify all that fancy sorting  delivery equipment.  Not to mention 
all those high priced managers. 

At least one of those high priced US Postal officers has proven to be 
quite fast: Lance Armstrong.

Fast for a cyclist, but slow compared to the rest of the world.

The USPS is fast compared to say Pony Express.

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ssh public key frustration

2003-09-13 Thread Net Llama!
I've setup  used ssh public keys many times before.  All of a sudden, i 
can't get it to work at all.  It works on the boxes where i've set it up in 
the past, but new ones just fail to work.

The servers are all RH-7.3.  I thought that all that was required was:
0) on the client box, run ssh-keygen -t dsa, hit enter at all the 
prompts, and i'll end up with ~/.ssh/id_dsa.pub.
1) I then need to place the contents of that file on the server in 
~/.ssh/authorized_keys.
2) ssh to the server, and i shouldn't be prompted for a password.

this isn't happening.  i'm still prompted for a password.  am i missing 
something obvious?

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Re: 2.6-test5 problem

2003-09-13 Thread Net Llama!
On 09/13/03 07:53, Bruce Marshall wrote:
I now have the kernel running with the only problem being that I can't 
get the aic7xxx code to compile.  This was also a problem in the 2.4.22 
code.
huh?  i've built a few 2.4.22 kernels with aic7xxx compiled in.  can you 
elaborate on that?

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Re: 2.6-test5 problem

2003-09-13 Thread Bruce Marshall
On Saturday 13 September 2003 12:39 pm, Net Llama! wrote:
 On 09/13/03 07:53, Bruce Marshall wrote:
  I now have the kernel running with the only problem being that I
  can't get the aic7xxx code to compile.  This was also a problem in
  the 2.4.22 code.

 huh?  i've built a few 2.4.22 kernels with aic7xxx compiled in.  can
 you elaborate on that?

I suspect it has to do with using the GCC 3.3 compiler.


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Re: ssh public key frustration

2003-09-13 Thread Bruce Marshall
On Saturday 13 September 2003 12:38 pm, Net Llama! wrote:
 I've setup  used ssh public keys many times before.  All of a sudden,
 i can't get it to work at all.  It works on the boxes where i've set
 it up in the past, but new ones just fail to work.

 The servers are all RH-7.3.  I thought that all that was required was:
 0) on the client box, run ssh-keygen -t dsa, hit enter at all the
 prompts, and i'll end up with ~/.ssh/id_dsa.pub.
 1) I then need to place the contents of that file on the server in
 ~/.ssh/authorized_keys.
 2) ssh to the server, and i shouldn't be prompted for a password.

 this isn't happening.  i'm still prompted for a password.  am i
 missing something obvious?

That's all I've ever done but two things to think about:

1) It seems the filename of the auth file changes from time to time.  But 
it probably has to do with the release of openssh.  Right now in my 
~/.ssh I have both an authorized_keys file and an authorized_keys2  
file.

2) Edit your dsa file and look at the very end of the record.  You might 
have a  [EMAIL PROTECTED]  at the end.  You can remove the whole thing I 
think or at least the @hostname part.


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Re: ssh public key frustration

2003-09-13 Thread Net Llama!
On 09/13/03 10:09, Bruce Marshall wrote:

On Saturday 13 September 2003 12:38 pm, Net Llama! wrote:

I've setup  used ssh public keys many times before.  All of a sudden,
i can't get it to work at all.  It works on the boxes where i've set
it up in the past, but new ones just fail to work.
The servers are all RH-7.3.  I thought that all that was required was:
0) on the client box, run ssh-keygen -t dsa, hit enter at all the
prompts, and i'll end up with ~/.ssh/id_dsa.pub.
1) I then need to place the contents of that file on the server in
~/.ssh/authorized_keys.
2) ssh to the server, and i shouldn't be prompted for a password.
this isn't happening.  i'm still prompted for a password.  am i
missing something obvious?


That's all I've ever done but two things to think about:

1) It seems the filename of the auth file changes from time to time.  But 
it probably has to do with the release of openssh.  Right now in my 
~/.ssh I have both an authorized_keys file and an authorized_keys2  
file.
Tried that, no change.

2) Edit your dsa file and look at the very end of the record.  You might 
have a  [EMAIL PROTECTED]  at the end.  You can remove the whole thing I 
think or at least the @hostname part.
Tried that too, no change.  urgl

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Re: Server question

2003-09-13 Thread Tom Condon

On Friday 12 September 2003 13:52, burns carved in granite:
 How do you plan on configuring security?

Well, a firewall set up using ShoreWall to control iptables.  
Don't ask me what settings, yet, except that the only open 
ports will be for SCP, SSH and Apache.

SSH  SCP will go through RSA encryption authentication.  
i.e., unless I put the public key onto the server a user 
isn't getting in.  So far there is only one person who needs 
access -- me.  It will probably stay that way.

I've probably overlooked something here, too, so suggestions 
are welcome.


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Re: ssh public key frustration

2003-09-13 Thread Bruce Marshall
On Saturday 13 September 2003 15:27 pm, Net Llama! wrote:
 On 09/13/03 10:09, Bruce Marshall wrote:
  On Saturday 13 September 2003 12:38 pm, Net Llama! wrote:
 I've setup  used ssh public keys many times before.  All of a
  sudden, i can't get it to work at all.  It works on the boxes where
  i've set it up in the past, but new ones just fail to work.
 
 The servers are all RH-7.3.  I thought that all that was required
  was: 0) on the client box, run ssh-keygen -t dsa, hit enter at
  all the prompts, and i'll end up with ~/.ssh/id_dsa.pub.
 1) I then need to place the contents of that file on the server in
 ~/.ssh/authorized_keys.
 2) ssh to the server, and i shouldn't be prompted for a password.
 
 this isn't happening.  i'm still prompted for a password.  am i
 missing something obvious?
 
  That's all I've ever done but two things to think about:
 
  1) It seems the filename of the auth file changes from time to time.
   But it probably has to do with the release of openssh.  Right now
  in my ~/.ssh I have both an authorized_keys file and an
  authorized_keys2 file.

 Tried that, no change.

  2) Edit your dsa file and look at the very end of the record.  You
  might have a  [EMAIL PROTECTED]  at the end.  You can remove the
  whole thing I think or at least the @hostname part.

 Tried that too, no change.  urgl

How about this in your /etc/sshd_conf ?

# Change to no to disable s/key passwords
ChallengeResponseAuthentication no

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Re: Server question

2003-09-13 Thread Collins Richey
On Sat, 13 Sep 2003 05:38:17 -0700
Tom Condon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 On Friday 12 September 2003 13:52, burns carved in granite:
  How do you plan on configuring security?
 
 Well, a firewall set up using ShoreWall to control iptables.  
 Don't ask me what settings, yet, except that the only open 
 ports will be for SCP, SSH and Apache.
 
 SSH  SCP will go through RSA encryption authentication.  
 i.e., unless I put the public key onto the server a user 
 isn't getting in.  So far there is only one person who needs 
 access -- me.  It will probably stay that way.
 
 I've probably overlooked something here, too, so suggestions 
 are welcome.
 

Perhaps an ntp daemon to keep your clock synchronized?

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Re: ssh public key frustration

2003-09-13 Thread Keith Morse
On Sat, 13 Sep 2003, Net Llama! wrote:

 I've setup  used ssh public keys many times before.  All of a sudden, i 
 can't get it to work at all.  It works on the boxes where i've set it up in 
 the past, but new ones just fail to work.
 
 The servers are all RH-7.3.  I thought that all that was required was:
 0) on the client box, run ssh-keygen -t dsa, hit enter at all the 
 prompts, and i'll end up with ~/.ssh/id_dsa.pub.
 1) I then need to place the contents of that file on the server in 
 ~/.ssh/authorized_keys.
 2) ssh to the server, and i shouldn't be prompted for a password.
 
 this isn't happening.  i'm still prompted for a password.  am i missing 
 something obvious?


For me, most of the time these issues almost always are related to the 
permissions on the .ssh/authorized_keys file or the .ssh directory on the 
destination server.   For whatever reason ssh -vvv  is next to near 
impossible to decipher without being a ssh coder, wish there was more 
meaningful text in the output of that command.


Concerning the other poster's response to format inconsistency, I've had 
very little problem with that.  One exception though, when copying the 
public key to the .ssh/authorized_keys sometimes errant newlines get 
thrown in for good measure.


I don't remember if I've posted this to the list before, but the following 
is the slickest way I've seen to forward the ssh public key correctly to 
a remote host.  It's from a gent named Todd Jacobs who is very good at 
shell scripting.

From: Todd A. Jacobs [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: shell scripting [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: SSH key add function

This isn't even worthy to be called a script, but it's a very easy way to 
add your ssh key to remote host in a single step. It's made my life quite 
a bit easier. :)

# Takes a single argument: the name of the host to install the key
# onto. Will do some rudimentary error-checking to verify that it's
# been given a valid hostname.
function putkey {
[ $# -eq 1 ] || return 1
{ fgrep -q $1 /etc/hosts || host $1  /dev/null; } || return 1
cat $HOME/.ssh/id_dsa.pub | ssh $1 'cat  .ssh/authorized_keys'
}



I'm quite interested in your problem, Mr. Net Llama.  I've got the same 
issue going from any linux based host to a Cobalt RAQ and cannot get keys 
to work at all.
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Re: ssh public key frustration

2003-09-13 Thread Michael Hipp
Net Llama! wrote:
0) on the client box, run ssh-keygen -t dsa, hit enter at all the 
prompts, and i'll end up with ~/.ssh/id_dsa.pub.
I believe the above creates a key that will still require a password 
before access is granted. To create a key that requires no password, use:

ssh-keygen -P  -t dsa

Or did I misunderstand what you're trying to do?

Michael

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Re: ssh public key frustration

2003-09-13 Thread Net Llama!
On 09/13/03 13:56, Michael Hipp wrote:

Net Llama! wrote:

0) on the client box, run ssh-keygen -t dsa, hit enter at all the 
prompts, and i'll end up with ~/.ssh/id_dsa.pub.


I believe the above creates a key that will still require a password 
before access is granted. To create a key that requires no password, use:

ssh-keygen -P  -t dsa

Or did I misunderstand what you're trying to do?
Your version explicitly sets the key password to a null length.  My version 
has the same result, i just hit enter when prompted to provide the password 
when the key is originally created.

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Re: ssh public key frustration

2003-09-13 Thread Net Llama!
On 09/13/03 12:53, Bruce Marshall wrote:
How about this in your /etc/sshd_conf ?

# Change to no to disable s/key passwords
ChallengeResponseAuthentication no
Its commented out.  I uncommented it, set it to yes, and restarted sshd, 
but there's been no improvement.

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A contented linux user

2003-09-13 Thread Collins Richey
Even though entitled with the eggregious GNU/linux moniker, this is a
really great article:

http://newsforge.com/article.pl?sid=03/09/12/1733209

What makes it even better, is the article is squeezed between Microsoft
ads chuckle.  

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Re: ssh public key frustration

2003-09-13 Thread Net Llama!
On 09/13/03 14:16, Keith Morse wrote:

On Sat, 13 Sep 2003, Net Llama! wrote:


I've setup  used ssh public keys many times before.  All of a sudden, i 
can't get it to work at all.  It works on the boxes where i've set it up in 
the past, but new ones just fail to work.

The servers are all RH-7.3.  I thought that all that was required was:
0) on the client box, run ssh-keygen -t dsa, hit enter at all the 
prompts, and i'll end up with ~/.ssh/id_dsa.pub.
1) I then need to place the contents of that file on the server in 
~/.ssh/authorized_keys.
2) ssh to the server, and i shouldn't be prompted for a password.

this isn't happening.  i'm still prompted for a password.  am i missing 
something obvious?


For me, most of the time these issues almost always are related to the 
permissions on the .ssh/authorized_keys file or the .ssh directory on the 
destination server.   For whatever reason ssh -vvv  is next to near 
impossible to decipher without being a ssh coder, wish there was more 
meaningful text in the output of that command.

Concerning the other poster's response to format inconsistency, I've had 
very little problem with that.  One exception though, when copying the 
public key to the .ssh/authorized_keys sometimes errant newlines get 
thrown in for good measure.

I don't remember if I've posted this to the list before, but the following 
is the slickest way I've seen to forward the ssh public key correctly to 
a remote host.  It's from a gent named Todd Jacobs who is very good at 
shell scripting.

From: Todd A. Jacobs [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: shell scripting [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: SSH key add function
This isn't even worthy to be called a script, but it's a very easy way to 
add your ssh key to remote host in a single step. It's made my life quite 
a bit easier. :)

# Takes a single argument: the name of the host to install the key
# onto. Will do some rudimentary error-checking to verify that it's
# been given a valid hostname.
function putkey {
[ $# -eq 1 ] || return 1
{ fgrep -q $1 /etc/hosts || host $1  /dev/null; } || return 1
cat $HOME/.ssh/id_dsa.pub | ssh $1 'cat  .ssh/authorized_keys'
}
Well, i've made some progress.  Oddly, i can ssh one way as root, without 
having to provide my password, but i can't ssh the other way as root, or 
any other user (even though i've setup the keys the same way for every 
account on the boxes).



I'm quite interested in your problem, Mr. Net Llama.  I've got the same 
issue going from any linux based host to a Cobalt RAQ and cannot get keys 
to work at all.
ick. Cobalt RAQ's are absolute crap.  Are they still using RH-6.2 on those 
things?  I've yet to hear of, or experience anything good about them.

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Re: OT Wind River dropping BSD

2003-09-13 Thread Harry Giles
On Thu September 11 2003 09:10 pm, Kurt Wall wrote:
 Quoth Harry Giles:
  http://www.bsdnewsletter.com/2003/09/News105.html
 
  Bummer.

 Bummer, indeed. If I could persuade them to drop the $995.00 price
 somewhat, I'd pop for a copy. The source code license is another
 $1200, though. Ouch.

 Kurt

Didn't realize that was the price.  

On second thought, scr_ _ them!

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Re: ssh public key frustration

2003-09-13 Thread Bruce Marshall
On Saturday 13 September 2003 17:40 pm, Net Llama! wrote:
 On 09/13/03 12:53, Bruce Marshall wrote:
  How about this in your /etc/sshd_conf ?
 
  # Change to no to disable s/key passwords
  ChallengeResponseAuthentication no

 Its commented out.  I uncommented it, set it to yes, and restarted
 sshd, but there's been no improvement.

Wanna try  'no' ?   The above statement is what I have in my  
/etc/sshd_conf

I don't really know what it does...  but it sounds good.


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Re: ssh public key frustration

2003-09-13 Thread burns
On Sat, 2003-09-13 at 12:38, Net Llama! wrote:
 I've setup  used ssh public keys many times before.  All of a sudden, i 
 can't get it to work at all.  It works on the boxes where i've set it up in 
 the past, but new ones just fail to work.
 

I've set up several boxes here at home over the past two weeks (RH8 +
RH9) and had to update the SSL key on each of them. The trick seems to
be that you also have to update the 'up2date' client software as well.
If you follow the instructions on the Red Hat Network faithfully, it
seems to work.

But I agree, it is an awful way that they have implemented this.
Downloading this degree  of kludgey complexity onto your customers is
not good business. For us it's OK - we can figure it out eventually. But
what about those first time linux users that have just bought a boxed
set and don't know a console command from a potato?

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Re: ssh public key frustration

2003-09-13 Thread Net Llama!
On 09/13/03 18:14, burns wrote:

On Sat, 2003-09-13 at 12:38, Net Llama! wrote:

I've setup  used ssh public keys many times before.  All of a sudden, i 
can't get it to work at all.  It works on the boxes where i've set it up in 
the past, but new ones just fail to work.



I've set up several boxes here at home over the past two weeks (RH8 +
RH9) and had to update the SSL key on each of them. The trick seems to
be that you also have to update the 'up2date' client software as well.
If you follow the instructions on the Red Hat Network faithfully, it
seems to work.
But I agree, it is an awful way that they have implemented this.
Downloading this degree  of kludgey complexity onto your customers is
not good business. For us it's OK - we can figure it out eventually. But
what about those first time linux users that have just bought a boxed
set and don't know a console command from a potato?
Are we talking about the same things here?  I'm talking about ssh public 
key authentication.  It sounds like you're talking about the public PGP key 
that RH uses to verify RPM releases.

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Re: ssh public key frustration

2003-09-13 Thread burns
On Sat, 2003-09-13 at 21:57, Net Llama! wrote:

 
 Are we talking about the same things here?  I'm talking about ssh public 
 key authentication.  It sounds like you're talking about the public PGP key 
 that RH uses to verify RPM releases.

Ooops. I believe you're right. I was talking about their client-side SSL
certificate fiasco. 

I think I took this out of context... that'll teach me to jump in in
mid-stream.

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Re: ssh public key frustration

2003-09-13 Thread Net Llama!
On 09/13/03 18:08, Bruce Marshall wrote:

On Saturday 13 September 2003 17:40 pm, Net Llama! wrote:

On 09/13/03 12:53, Bruce Marshall wrote:

How about this in your /etc/sshd_conf ?

# Change to no to disable s/key passwords
ChallengeResponseAuthentication no
Its commented out.  I uncommented it, set it to yes, and restarted
sshd, but there's been no improvement.


Wanna try  'no' ?   The above statement is what I have in my  
/etc/sshd_conf

I don't really know what it does...  but it sounds good.
tried that for the hell of it, and still no change.  urghargh

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Re: A contented linux user

2003-09-13 Thread joel
There was a lot of correspondence generated by that essay.
It would be nice if all linux advocates bothered to learn to use correct 
English grammar and spelling, but, such is life.
Of more interest was the claim by one fellow that their switch to linux 
worked great until a couple of guys left who knew linux and then 
everything fell apart. He even claimed they got hit by viruses.
Now, how can viruses affect linux if you are running the boxes properly?
This one fellow sounded like he worked for a company that didn't have 
procedure manuals. In my place of work, a hospital, we have procedure 
manuals for every conceivable task.
IT SEEMS TO ME that MS is giving linux a great opening for at least 
three reasons:
1. MS is still expensive.
2. MS is still insecure.
3. MS is getting nonstandard. This isn't talked about much, but there 
are so many version of MS out  there (I still use Windows 95 for my 
desktop machine, works fine.) that windows is in danger of losing that 
which makes windows so desirable, standardization. There are even 
different versions of powerpoint for different versions of windows. This 
is not making MS look good. However, MS makes its money by selling 
software, and so it has to keep changing its software and forcing its 
users to upgrade, both software and hardware. MS generated 16 billion in 
free cash flow in the last 12 months. Their strategy is working fine. I 
guess people don't see that as excessive. However, imagine if linux 
could be understood by CEO's to offer a more stable and standard 
platform than windows.  Imagine, Mr. CEO, no more being forced to 
upgrade because MS needs more money. Upgrade only when you want to and 
can afford to. Sounds like a good sales pitch to me.
Joel

Collins Richey wrote:

Even though entitled with the eggregious GNU/linux moniker, this is a
really great article:
http://newsforge.com/article.pl?sid=03/09/12/1733209

What makes it even better, is the article is squeezed between Microsoft
ads chuckle.  

 

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KDevelop: using gdbm

2003-09-13 Thread Kevin O'Gorman
I suppose I'm a jerk for trying to use this without extensive reading
first, but I was hoping that KDevelop would be a reasonable environment
for building a couple of projects I'm working on.

Besides the awkwardness I've always had going from using the command
line nearly exclusively for the last 40 years to using a GUI-based
IDE, I find I cannot train this beast to let me link with -lgdbm.
The Linker Options window does not have a checkbox for gdbm, and
putting gdbm in the other spot leads to a failed dependency when
make tries to make the target gdbm.

I find automake Makefiles completely unreadable (I know, RTFM, but
I was looking for easy, not for an education).

So the question is this: is there an easy way?  Failing that, does
anyone find KDevelop to be a reasonable platform for C++ development?
Should I just bag it and go back to the command-line?

BTW, I was hoping to make this fairly portable, and put it on sourceforge,
which is why I was thinking automake and tools like an IDE.  Advice?

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