Re: OpenOffice Outline - making it stick
I've used this with paragraph formatting, not outlining. With OOo it seems that the trick to modifying the default format for a document is through the styles menu. Open Format/Styles/Catalog and you will see a pull-down menu of paragraph, character, frame, page numbering styles. For each of these, then, there are a number of options, default being the one in effect for a new document. You either can then modify the default style, or create name a new one. For your problem, I think the solution would be to select Numbering Styles, and then either modify or creat a new numbering style that will be the default for your entire document. Whereas, what you are doing (and I did, as well) is selecting a style for a specific paragraph, which ends with that paragraph. Hope this helps. mike On Tuesday 18 November 2003 10:15 pm, Brett I. Holcomb wrote: I'm running OpenOffice 1.1 and am finding that if I set up the numbering for an outline (i.e. level 1 I, II, ..; level 2 A,B,..; etc) under format-outline numbering or Tools-Outline numbering that it doesn't stick. If you break the outline to add text as in I. blahlbha A. bblah 1 blah B more lbah Notes to myself so I don't forget II. blah balh Here, instead of A I get the default 1 again. When I got to Format-Outline numbering I see it's reset to default. How do I save this and setup my defaults!! I haven't found anything in the help yet. Thanks. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users -- Debian 'Sarge': Registered Linux User #241964 More laws, less justice. -- Marcus Tullius Ciceroca, 42 BC ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: OpenOffice Outline - making it stick
If you do 'shift-enter' after the last real outline line instead of the usual 'enter', you will be on a new line (1B), but will be considered a continuation of the last item. You can do this for as many lines as you want. Then, just do a normal enter when you want to continue with the outline. This is the same way you get a new paragraph in a bulleted list without a new bullet. On Wed, 19 Nov 2003 08:28:39 -0600 Mike Reinehr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've used this with paragraph formatting, not outlining. With OOo it seems that the trick to modifying the default format for a document is through the styles menu. Open Format/Styles/Catalog and you will see a pull-down menu of paragraph, character, frame, page numbering styles. For each of these, then, there are a number of options, default being the one in effect for a new document. You either can then modify the default style, or create name a new one. For your problem, I think the solution would be to select Numbering Styles, and then either modify or creat a new numbering style that will be the default for your entire document. Whereas, what you are doing (and I did, as well) is selecting a style for a specific paragraph, which ends with that paragraph. Hope this helps. mike On Tuesday 18 November 2003 10:15 pm, Brett I. Holcomb wrote: I'm running OpenOffice 1.1 and am finding that if I set up the numbering for an outline (i.e. level 1 I, II, ..; level 2 A,B,..; etc) under format-outline numbering or Tools-Outline numbering that it doesn't stick. If you break the outline to add text as in I. blahlbha A. bblah 1 blah B more lbah Notes to myself so I don't forget II. blah balh Here, instead of A I get the default 1 again. When I got to -- ++···+ · Roger Oberholtzer · E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]· · OPQ Systems AB · WWW: http://www.opq.se/ · · Erik Dahlbergsgatan 41-43 ·Phone: Int + 46 8 314223 · · 115 34 Stockholm · Mobile: Int + 46 733 621657 · · Sweden · Fax: Int + 46 8 302602 · ++···+ ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: OpenOffice Outline - making it stick
Thank you. I'll try this and see what happens. It shouldn't be that hard to try and set a default! Mike Reinehr wrote: I've used this with paragraph formatting, not outlining. With OOo it seems that the trick to modifying the default format for a document is through the styles menu. Open Format/Styles/Catalog and you will see a pull-down menu of paragraph, character, frame, page numbering styles. For each of these, then, there are a number of options, default being the one in effect for a new document. You either can then modify the default style, or create name a new one. For your problem, I think the solution would be to select Numbering Styles, and then either modify or creat a new numbering style that will be the default for your entire document. Whereas, what you are doing (and I did, as well) is selecting a style for a specific paragraph, which ends with that paragraph. Hope this helps. mike On Tuesday 18 November 2003 10:15 pm, Brett I. Holcomb wrote: I'm running OpenOffice 1.1 and am finding that if I set up the numbering for an outline (i.e. level 1 I, II, ..; level 2 A,B,..; etc) under format-outline numbering or Tools-Outline numbering that it doesn't stick. If you break the outline to add text as in I. blahlbha A. bblah 1 blah B more lbah Notes to myself so I don't forget II. blah balh Here, instead of A I get the default 1 again. When I got to Format-Outline numbering I see it's reset to default. How do I save this and setup my defaults!! I haven't found anything in the help yet. Thanks. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users -- Brett I. Holcomb [EMAIL PROTECTED] AKA Grunt Registered Linux User #188143 Remove R777 to email ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: OpenOffice Outline - making it stick
Thank you. I knew there had to be a way. Roger Oberholtzer wrote: If you do 'shift-enter' after the last real outline line instead of the usual 'enter', you will be on a new line (1B), but will be considered a continuation of the last item. You can do this for as many lines as you want. Then, just do a normal enter when you want to continue with the outline. This is the same way you get a new paragraph in a bulleted list without a new bullet. On Wed, 19 Nov 2003 08:28:39 -0600 Mike Reinehr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've used this with paragraph formatting, not outlining. With OOo it seems that the trick to modifying the default format for a document is through the styles menu. Open Format/Styles/Catalog and you will see a pull-down menu of paragraph, character, frame, page numbering styles. For each of these, then, there are a number of options, default being the one in effect for a new document. You either can then modify the default style, or create name a new one. For your problem, I think the solution would be to select Numbering Styles, and then either modify or creat a new numbering style that will be the default for your entire document. Whereas, what you are doing (and I did, as well) is selecting a style for a specific paragraph, which ends with that paragraph. Hope this helps. mike On Tuesday 18 November 2003 10:15 pm, Brett I. Holcomb wrote: I'm running OpenOffice 1.1 and am finding that if I set up the numbering for an outline (i.e. level 1 I, II, ..; level 2 A,B,..; etc) under format-outline numbering or Tools-Outline numbering that it doesn't stick. If you break the outline to add text as in I. blahlbha A. bblah 1 blah B more lbah Notes to myself so I don't forget II. blah balh Here, instead of A I get the default 1 again. When I got to -- Brett I. Holcomb [EMAIL PROTECTED] AKA Grunt Registered Linux User #188143 Remove R777 to email ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
OpenOffice Outline - making it stick
I'm running OpenOffice 1.1 and am finding that if I set up the numbering for an outline (i.e. level 1 I, II, ..; level 2 A,B,..; etc) under format-outline numbering or Tools-Outline numbering that it doesn't stick. If you break the outline to add text as in I. blahlbha A. bblah 1 blah B more lbah Notes to myself so I don't forget II. blah balh Here, instead of A I get the default 1 again. When I got to Format-Outline numbering I see it's reset to default. How do I save this and setup my defaults!! I haven't found anything in the help yet. Thanks. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: OpenOffice Hanging indent
Thank you. I'll check it out. Ralph Sanford wrote: On Thu, 2003-10-23 at 20:09, Brett I. Holcomb wrote: In MS Word they have a setting for a hanging indent which can be done will work for OpenOffice 1.1 as well. Graphically you can use the adjusting triangles. The top triangle (the first line of your paragraph stays at the margin) and the lower triangle (all lines after the first line) is moved away from the margin to produce your hanging indent. You should be able to select all the paragraphs that you want to make this adjustment for, or, set your first paragraph as described and each new paragraph you type should follow this format. Looking at the Format/Paragraph/IndentsSpacing menu item it is not as obviously apparent. The Indent Before Text should be set to whatever hanging indent you want i.e. 0.50. Then the Indent First Line is neutralized by using a negative indent i.e. -0.50. There you have it, HTH. -- Brett I. Holcomb [EMAIL PROTECTED] AKA Grunt Registered Linux User #188143 Remove R777 to email ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: OpenOffice Hanging indent
Tried it and it does work as expected and in Word. What threw me off was that when the triangles are both at the left margin dragging the bottom also drags the top. I had to drag the top triangle over, then move the bottom to where I wanted it and move the top back. Once I did that everything works as expected. Thank you. Ralph Sanford wrote: On Thu, 2003-10-23 at 20:09, Brett I. Holcomb wrote: In MS Word they have a setting for a hanging indent which can be done either via the ruler at the top of the page or a dialog. A hanging Graphically you can use the adjusting triangles. The top triangle (the first line of your paragraph stays at the margin) and the lower triangle (all lines after the first line) is moved away from the margin to produce your hanging indent. You should be able to select all the paragraphs that you want to make this adjustment for, or, set your first paragraph as described and each new paragraph you type should follow this format. Looking at the Format/Paragraph/IndentsSpacing menu item it is not as obviously apparent. The Indent Before Text should be set to whatever hanging indent you want i.e. 0.50. Then the Indent First Line is neutralized by using a negative indent i.e. -0.50. There you have it, HTH. -- Brett I. Holcomb [EMAIL PROTECTED] AKA Grunt Registered Linux User #188143 Remove R777 to email ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
OpenOffice Hanging indent
In MS Word they have a setting for a hanging indent which can be done either via the ruler at the top of the page or a dialog. A hanging indent is where the lines after the firstt are indented by some amount. For the life of me I can not find the equivalent in OpenOffice 1.1. I've been all over the toolbars, dialogs, etc. and can't find it. The ruler has the triangles for adjusting margins but I can't make it work for the indents. I know it's something simple I'm missing or doing wrong. Any help is greatly appreciated. Thanks. -- Brett I. Holcomb [EMAIL PROTECTED] AKA Grunt Registered Linux User #188143 Remove R777 to email ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: OpenOffice Hanging indent
On Thu, 2003-10-23 at 20:09, Brett I. Holcomb wrote: In MS Word they have a setting for a hanging indent which can be done either via the ruler at the top of the page or a dialog. A hanging indent is where the lines after the firstt are indented by some amount. For the life of me I can not find the equivalent in OpenOffice 1.1. I've been all over the toolbars, dialogs, etc. and can't find it. The ruler has the triangles for adjusting margins but I can't make it work for the indents. I know it's something simple I'm missing or doing wrong. Any help is greatly appreciated. Thanks. I am using the evaluation version of StarOffice 7, so I suspect this will work for OpenOffice 1.1 as well. Graphically you can use the adjusting triangles. The top triangle (the first line of your paragraph stays at the margin) and the lower triangle (all lines after the first line) is moved away from the margin to produce your hanging indent. You should be able to select all the paragraphs that you want to make this adjustment for, or, set your first paragraph as described and each new paragraph you type should follow this format. Looking at the Format/Paragraph/IndentsSpacing menu item it is not as obviously apparent. The Indent Before Text should be set to whatever hanging indent you want i.e. 0.50. Then the Indent First Line is neutralized by using a negative indent i.e. -0.50. There you have it, HTH. -- Ralph Sanford - If your government does not trust you, [EMAIL PROTECTED] - should you trust your government? DH/DSS Key - 0x7A1BEA01 ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Fw: Re: OpenOffice spreadsheet won't open?!?
---BeginMessage--- Does anyone else use this file? Perhaps it's not OOo that's at fault here. Anyone can corrupt a file they have write access to. On Sun, 08 Jun 2003 14:54:55 -0700 Net Llama! [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 06/08/03 13:20, Hermann-Josef Beckers wrote: Hi Lonnie, Last week, I was working on a spreadsheet (originally created in Excel by someone else) in OpenOffice-1.0.2, and saved it in Excel-2000 format. Today, OpenOffice refuses to open it, with an 'unrecognized file type' error. from a german OOo-list: from the Knoppix-Changelog.txt as of 16.05.2003: [...] - UNSOLVED: The official OpenOffice 1.0.3.1 version from openoffice.org can't export Tables in Excel2000/XP(TM) format, but crashes on the attempt in Debian/testing (probably a library problem). Workaround: Use the compatible 95 format for exports, or just save in native OpenOffice spreadsheet format. [...] I know, the versions differ, but maybe it gives a hint. hrmm..that's odd. the thing is, i've been using saving this same file like this for over a week. its only now that it won't open anymore. -- ~ L. Friedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step TyGeMo: http://netllama.ipfox.com 2:45pm up 8 days, 23:00, 2 users, load average: 0.02, 0.01, 0.00 ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users ---End Message--- ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Fw: Re: OpenOffice spreadsheet won't open?!?
errr...what's with all the forwarded mail?? anyway, no, i'm the only one who writes to the file. On Mon, 9 Jun 2003, Matthew Carpenter wrote: -- ~~ Lonni J Friedman[EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step TyGeMo http://netllama.ipfox.com ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
OpenOffice spreadsheet won't open?!?
Last week, I was working on a spreadsheet (originally created in Excel by someone else) in OpenOffice-1.0.2, and saved it in Excel-2000 format. Today, OpenOffice refuses to open it, with an 'unrecognized file type' error. I don't have Excel, so i don't know for sure if this is an OO problem, or if the file is completely horked. Anyone have any recovery suggestions? -- ~ L. Friedman[EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step TyGeMo:http://netllama.ipfox.com 11:20am up 8 days, 19:35, 2 users, load average: 0.32, 0.25, 0.12 ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: OpenOffice spreadsheet won't open?!?
If you are desperate, you could email the file to someone with office 2000 (like me) and see if they can open it up for you. I won't be home until later this evening, about 5 hours (7:00PM Eastern Daylight, GMT -4:00), if you can wait that long. Have you saved other spreadsheets to the office 2000 format and opened them up without trouble? I have never tried the 2000 format, only 97. Of course, you have backups of this file, so whats to worry? Joel On Sun, Jun 08, 2003 at 11:24:44AM -0700, Net Llama! wrote: Last week, I was working on a spreadsheet (originally created in Excel by someone else) in OpenOffice-1.0.2, and saved it in Excel-2000 format. Today, OpenOffice refuses to open it, with an 'unrecognized file type' error. I don't have Excel, so i don't know for sure if this is an OO problem, or if the file is completely horked. Anyone have any recovery suggestions? -- ~ L. Friedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step TyGeMo: http://netllama.ipfox.com 11:20am up 8 days, 19:35, 2 users, load average: 0.32, 0.25, 0.12 ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: OpenOffice spreadsheet won't open?!?
On Sunday 08 June 2003 2:24 pm, someone claiming to be Net Llama! wrote: Last week, I was working on a spreadsheet (originally created in Excel by someone else) in OpenOffice-1.0.2, and saved it in Excel-2000 format. Today, OpenOffice refuses to open it, with an 'unrecognized file type' error. I don't have Excel, so i don't know for sure if this is an OO problem, or if the file is completely horked. Anyone have any recovery suggestions? Have you tried openingn it in gnumeric? -- RedHat Psyche 8.0, stock kernel, KDE 3.1.CVS, Xfree86 4.2.1 2:55pm up 13 days, 16:05, 4 users, load average: 0.00, 0.03, 0.11 It's what you learn after you know it all that counts ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: OpenOffice spreadsheet won't open?!?
On 06/08/03 12:00, Tim Wunder wrote: On Sunday 08 June 2003 2:24 pm, someone claiming to be Net Llama! wrote: Last week, I was working on a spreadsheet (originally created in Excel by someone else) in OpenOffice-1.0.2, and saved it in Excel-2000 format. Today, OpenOffice refuses to open it, with an 'unrecognized file type' error. I don't have Excel, so i don't know for sure if this is an OO problem, or if the file is completely horked. Anyone have any recovery suggestions? Have you tried openingn it in gnumeric? i don't have gnumeric installed, although i suppose i could go that route. thanks. -- ~ L. Friedman[EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step TyGeMo:http://netllama.ipfox.com 12:05pm up 8 days, 20:20, 2 users, load average: 0.07, 0.21, 0.43 ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: OpenOffice spreadsheet won't open?!?
Hi Lonnie, Last week, I was working on a spreadsheet (originally created in Excel by someone else) in OpenOffice-1.0.2, and saved it in Excel-2000 format. Today, OpenOffice refuses to open it, with an 'unrecognized file type' error. from a german OOo-list: from the Knoppix-Changelog.txt as of 16.05.2003: [...] - UNSOLVED: The official OpenOffice 1.0.3.1 version from openoffice.org can't export Tables in Excel2000/XP(TM) format, but crashes on the attempt in Debian/testing (probably a library problem). Workaround: Use the compatible 95 format for exports, or just save in native OpenOffice spreadsheet format. [...] I know, the versions differ, but maybe it gives a hint. Yours hjb ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: OpenOffice spreadsheet won't open?!?
On 06/08/03 13:20, Hermann-Josef Beckers wrote: Hi Lonnie, Last week, I was working on a spreadsheet (originally created in Excel by someone else) in OpenOffice-1.0.2, and saved it in Excel-2000 format. Today, OpenOffice refuses to open it, with an 'unrecognized file type' error. from a german OOo-list: from the Knoppix-Changelog.txt as of 16.05.2003: [...] - UNSOLVED: The official OpenOffice 1.0.3.1 version from openoffice.org can't export Tables in Excel2000/XP(TM) format, but crashes on the attempt in Debian/testing (probably a library problem). Workaround: Use the compatible 95 format for exports, or just save in native OpenOffice spreadsheet format. [...] I know, the versions differ, but maybe it gives a hint. hrmm..that's odd. the thing is, i've been using saving this same file like this for over a week. its only now that it won't open anymore. -- ~ L. Friedman[EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step TyGeMo:http://netllama.ipfox.com 2:45pm up 8 days, 23:00, 2 users, load average: 0.02, 0.01, 0.00 ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: OpenOffice Outline View
On Friday 21 March 2003 22:56 pm, Brett I. Holcomb wrote: MS Word has the ability to view a document in outline format. That is if you have a document that has different heading levels in it you can select a view option that displays the document as an outline. This is very handy because you can drag the headings around to rearrange them in the document without cutting and pasting large chunks of text. I haven't found an equivalent in OO 1.01 but maybe I'm missing something. Can it be done? Thanks. I have the Star Office 6.0 'Companion' book and a quick look at the index shows that it does have outlining A section called 'Master Views' talks about the different views including an outline view but that seems to deal with presentations rather than a document. In the document creation part it only mentions outlining by use of numbering, but doesn't mention any possible outline function/feature other than the numbering... I would guess it really doesn't have the same capability. -- ++ + Bruce S. Marshall [EMAIL PROTECTED] Bellaire, MI 03/22/03 08:37 + ++ Man is a rational animal who always loses his temper when he is called upon to act in accordance with the dictates of reason. - Oscar Wilde, British playwright, poet, and novelist (1854-1900) ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: OpenOffice Outline View
Brett I. Holcomb wrote: MS Word has the ability to view a document in outline format. That is if you have a document that has different heading levels in it you can select a view option that displays the document as an outline. This is very handy because you can drag the headings around to rearrange them in the document without cutting and pasting large chunks of text. I haven't found an equivalent in OO 1.01 but maybe I'm missing something. Can it be done? Thanks. Search the OO Help for 'outline numbering' and 'navigator'. Klaus ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: OpenOffice Outline View
Outline number I've seen - i can do that G. However, the navigator appears to provide the ability I need to drag my headings around and change the order in the document. I never would have thought to look under there! Thanks. Klaus-Peter Schrage wrote: Brett I. Holcomb wrote: MS Word has the ability to view a document in outline format. That is if you have a document that has different heading levels in it you can select a view option that displays the document as an outline. This is very handy because you can drag the headings around to rearrange them in the document without cutting and pasting large chunks of text. I haven't found an equivalent in OO 1.01 but maybe I'm missing something. Can it be done? Thanks. Search the OO Help for 'outline numbering' and 'navigator'. Klaus -- Brett I. Holcomb [EMAIL PROTECTED] AKA Grunt Registered Linux User #188143 Remove R777 to email ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: OpenOffice Outline View
Brett I. Holcomb wrote: Outline number I've seen - i can do that G. However, the navigator appears to provide the ability I need to drag my headings around and change the order in the document. I never would have thought to look under there! I often found that functions well known in Word are somewhat hidden in OpenOfice. An example that nearly drove me crazy: When printing inlays for self burnt CDs, of course you need rotated text. I nearly wanted to through away OO until I found: Format | Character | Rotation/Scaling. Knowing about Word, you never would have thought to find it there ... Klaus ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: OpenOffice Outline View
You're right. That is an obscure one! Hopefully soon Word will just be a bad memory G. Klaus-Peter Schrage wrote: Brett I. Holcomb wrote: Outline number I've seen - i can do that G. However, the navigator appears to provide the ability I need to drag my headings around and change the order in the document. I never would have thought to look under there! I often found that functions well known in Word are somewhat hidden in OpenOfice. An example that nearly drove me crazy: When printing inlays for self burnt CDs, of course you need rotated text. I nearly wanted to through away OO until I found: Format | Character | Rotation/Scaling. Knowing about Word, you never would have thought to find it there ... Klaus -- Brett I. Holcomb [EMAIL PROTECTED] AKA Grunt Registered Linux User #188143 Remove R777 to email ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
OpenOffice Outline View
MS Word has the ability to view a document in outline format. That is if you have a document that has different heading levels in it you can select a view option that displays the document as an outline. This is very handy because you can drag the headings around to rearrange them in the document without cutting and pasting large chunks of text. I haven't found an equivalent in OO 1.01 but maybe I'm missing something. Can it be done? Thanks. -- Brett I. Holcomb [EMAIL PROTECTED] AKA Grunt Registered Linux User #188143 Remove R777 to email ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: OpenOffice vs MySQL read-only
Bill Campbell wrote: myodbc-3.51.05-20030116shared openpkg rpm What might I be doing wrong? I used myodbc-2.5 which worked but that was a while ago... on openoffice 642. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
OpenOffice vs MySQL read-only
I've been trying to learn my way around openoffice on SuSE 8.1, in particular interfacing with MySQL. The basic problem is that mysql tables show up as read-only even though they have the proper primary keys, and the [EMAIL PROTECTED] has full privleges in the mysql database (e.g. ``grant all on *.* to ...''). I have created a table from openoffice, and added fields including one integer field as the primary key. So far I haven't been able to add, modify, or delete records from the tables using openoffice. Furthermore, when I go to edit the table, all fields appear to be read-only in the edit mode. I've tried this using both myodbc-unixodbc and jdbc with the same results. The results are the same on two different mysql servers. Here are the various RPM versions on the systems: Version System OpenOffice_org-1.0.1-25 SuSE /bin/rpm unixodbc-2.2.5-20030227shared openpkg rpm myodbc-3.51.05-20030116shared openpkg rpm mysql-connector-java-3.0.6 MySQL Servers mysql-3.23.54a-20030116 openpkg rpm mysql-3.22.32-1SCaldera OL 3.1 What might I be doing wrong? Bill -- INTERNET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Bill Campbell; Celestial Software LLC UUCP: camco!bill PO Box 820; 6641 E. Mercer Way FAX:(206) 232-9186 Mercer Island, WA 98040-0820; (206) 236-1676 URL: http://www.celestial.com/ The day-to-day travails of the IBM programmer are so amusing to most of us who are fortunate enough never to have been one -- like watching Charlie Chaplin trying to cook a shoe. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Mandrake 9.1 beta 3 and OpenOffice
On Tuesday 25 February 2003 09:11 pm, Tim Wunder wrote: On Tuesday 25 February 2003 9:14 pm, someone claiming to be Collins wrote: On Tuesday 25 February 2003 07:30 am, Tim Wunder wrote: Anybody try Mandrake 9.1 beta 3 and get the OpenOffice RPM to install? My son's having difficult getting the rpm to take. I don't have the specific error handy (sorry), so I'm just looking for verification that it can be done. I've tried the RPM from Mandrake's Cooker site, and that's failing, too. My approach would be: get the binary package from OO.org, but then I'm never a fan of RPM. grin heh... That's what we did. I prefer compiling source and installing as RPM via checkinstall. But I'm certainly *not* going to compile OOo... Which part of binary package did you fail to understand? I've never found a need to compile OO. Just download, install, it's ready to fly in a few minutes. -- Collins Richey - Denver Area Athlon-XP gentoo 1.4_rc2 kde 3.1 ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Mandrake 9.1 beta 3 and OpenOffice
On 2/26/2003 6:44 AM, someone claiming to be Collins wrote: On Tuesday 25 February 2003 09:11 pm, Tim Wunder wrote: On Tuesday 25 February 2003 9:14 pm, someone claiming to be Collins wrote: On Tuesday 25 February 2003 07:30 am, Tim Wunder wrote: Anybody try Mandrake 9.1 beta 3 and get the OpenOffice RPM to install? My son's having difficult getting the rpm to take. I don't have the specific error handy (sorry), so I'm just looking for verification that it can be done. I've tried the RPM from Mandrake's Cooker site, and that's failing, too. My approach would be: get the binary package from OO.org, but then I'm never a fan of RPM. grin heh... That's what we did. I prefer compiling source and installing as RPM via checkinstall. But I'm certainly *not* going to compile OOo... Which part of binary package did you fail to understand? I've never found a need to compile OO. Just download, install, it's ready to fly in a few minutes. Um, neither. I understood perfectly. Just trying to follow up on your RPM comment, I *do* like RPM, but not precompiled RPMs. BTW, which part of that's what we did did *you* not understand? ;-) Tim ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Mandrake 9.1 beta 3 and OpenOffice
Anybody try Mandrake 9.1 beta 3 and get the OpenOffice RPM to install? My son's having difficult getting the rpm to take. I don't have the specific error handy (sorry), so I'm just looking for verification that it can be done. I've tried the RPM from Mandrake's Cooker site, and that's failing, too. Regards, Tim ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Mandrake 9.1 beta 3 and OpenOffice
On Tuesday 25 February 2003 07:30 am, Tim Wunder wrote: Anybody try Mandrake 9.1 beta 3 and get the OpenOffice RPM to install? My son's having difficult getting the rpm to take. I don't have the specific error handy (sorry), so I'm just looking for verification that it can be done. I've tried the RPM from Mandrake's Cooker site, and that's failing, too. My approach would be: get the binary package from OO.org, but then I'm never a fan of RPM. grin -- Collins Richey - Denver Area Athlon-XP gentoo 1.4_rc2 kde 3.1 ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Mandrake 9.1 beta 3 and OpenOffice
On Tuesday 25 February 2003 9:14 pm, someone claiming to be Collins wrote: On Tuesday 25 February 2003 07:30 am, Tim Wunder wrote: Anybody try Mandrake 9.1 beta 3 and get the OpenOffice RPM to install? My son's having difficult getting the rpm to take. I don't have the specific error handy (sorry), so I'm just looking for verification that it can be done. I've tried the RPM from Mandrake's Cooker site, and that's failing, too. My approach would be: get the binary package from OO.org, but then I'm never a fan of RPM. grin heh... That's what we did. I prefer compiling source and installing as RPM via checkinstall. But I'm certainly *not* going to compile OOo... -- RedHat Psyche 8.0, stock kernel, KDE 3.1.CVS, Xfree86 4.2.1 11:05pm up 8 days, 13:02, 3 users, load average: 1.35, 1.01, 0.58 It's what you learn after you know it all that counts ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Mandrake 9.1 beta 3 and OpenOffice
On 02/25/03 20:11, Tim Wunder wrote: On Tuesday 25 February 2003 9:14 pm, someone claiming to be Collins wrote: On Tuesday 25 February 2003 07:30 am, Tim Wunder wrote: Anybody try Mandrake 9.1 beta 3 and get the OpenOffice RPM to install? My son's having difficult getting the rpm to take. I don't have the specific error handy (sorry), so I'm just looking for verification that it can be done. I've tried the RPM from Mandrake's Cooker site, and that's failing, too. My approach would be: get the binary package from OO.org, but then I'm never a fan of RPM. grin heh... That's what we did. I prefer compiling source and installing as RPM via checkinstall. But I'm certainly *not* going to compile OOo... why not? don't have 18 hours to kill? ;) -- ~ L. Friedman[EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step TyGeMo:http://netllama.ipfox.com 8:10pm up 43 days, 3:35, 2 users, load average: 0.10, 0.30, 0.42 ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Mandrake 9.1 beta 3 and OpenOffice
Feigning erudition, Net Llama! wrote: % On 02/25/03 20:11, Tim Wunder wrote: % On Tuesday 25 February 2003 9:14 pm, someone claiming to be Collins wrote: % On Tuesday 25 February 2003 07:30 am, Tim Wunder wrote: % Anybody try Mandrake 9.1 beta 3 and get the OpenOffice RPM to install? % My son's having difficult getting the rpm to take. I don't have the % specific error handy (sorry), so I'm just looking for verification that % it can be done. I've tried the RPM from Mandrake's Cooker site, and % that's failing, too. % % My approach would be: get the binary package from OO.org, but then I'm % never a fan of RPM. grin % % heh... % That's what we did. I prefer compiling source and installing as RPM via % checkinstall. But I'm certainly *not* going to compile OOo... % % why not? don't have 18 hours to kill? ;) The good news is that you don't have to watch it compile. I build the latest GCC snapshot and the latest XFree from CVS every night while I sleep. They both seem to build faster, in fact, if I *don't* watch. ;-) Kurt -- Conway's Law: In any organization there will always be one person who knows what is going on. This person must be fired. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Mandrake 9.1 beta 3 and OpenOffice
On 02/25/03 20:16, Kurt Wall wrote: Feigning erudition, Net Llama! wrote: % On 02/25/03 20:11, Tim Wunder wrote: % On Tuesday 25 February 2003 9:14 pm, someone claiming to be Collins wrote: % On Tuesday 25 February 2003 07:30 am, Tim Wunder wrote: % Anybody try Mandrake 9.1 beta 3 and get the OpenOffice RPM to install? % My son's having difficult getting the rpm to take. I don't have the % specific error handy (sorry), so I'm just looking for verification that % it can be done. I've tried the RPM from Mandrake's Cooker site, and % that's failing, too. % % My approach would be: get the binary package from OO.org, but then I'm % never a fan of RPM. grin % % heh... % That's what we did. I prefer compiling source and installing as RPM via % checkinstall. But I'm certainly *not* going to compile OOo... % % why not? don't have 18 hours to kill? ;) The good news is that you don't have to watch it compile. I build the latest GCC snapshot and the latest XFree from CVS every night while I sleep. They both seem to build faster, in fact, if I *don't* watch. ;-) OO takes an order of magnitude longer to build than XFree86 gcc combined, or so i've heard. I've built XFree86 in about 45 minutes (4.2.0), and gcc in about 60 minutes in the past. -- ~ L. Friedman[EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step TyGeMo:http://netllama.ipfox.com 8:25pm up 43 days, 3:50, 2 users, load average: 0.06, 0.08, 0.20 ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
OpenOffice and Powerpoint
Does anyone have experience exporting from OpenOffice to PowerPoint? I want to export simple presentations, just images slides and text slides. Thanks, Joel ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: OpenOffice and Powerpoint
On Sat, Jan 04, 2003 at 09:26:33AM -0500, Joel Hammer wrote: Does anyone have experience exporting from OpenOffice to PowerPoint? I want to export simple presentations, just images slides and text slides. Have you thought of doing the presentation using html and a standard browser instead? That way it's not proprietary, and can be viewed anywhere. Bill -- INTERNET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Bill Campbell; Celestial Software LLC UUCP: camco!bill PO Box 820; 6641 E. Mercer Way FAX:(206) 232-9186 Mercer Island, WA 98040-0820; (206) 236-1676 URL: http://www.celestial.com/ ``Liberty don't work as good in practice as it does in speeches.'' Will Rogers ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: OpenOffice and Powerpoint
On Sat, 2003-01-04 at 07:26, Joel Hammer wrote: Does anyone have experience exporting from OpenOffice to PowerPoint? I want to export simple presentations, just images slides and text slides. Thanks, Joel Hi Joel, I did a fair amount of OO Impress to Powerpoint a couple of months ago. The conversion is generally OK -say 85 to 95% -, but there are little glitches. 1. Bullets in Impress will still look like bullets when the converted file is viewed on your linux computer using OO. (The Impress file fileanme.sxi has been saved as filename.ppt and is being viewed using OO Impress.) When the same filename.ppt is viewed in MS Powerpoint the bullets will likely be seen as a small happy face rather than as a small black dot. 2. Picture / Graphic placement may be slightly different between the sxi file and the ppt file. The result is that the picture and the adjacent text may overlap. I have not tried animated or motion presentation, so I can not comment on any possible issues. Overall the problems are not insurmountable. The text, graphics, backgrounds, styles, and notes are all converted from sxi to ppt. Using a common font -arial or times new roman- will help but this still has the bullets problem (I was using Arial and encoding set at ISO-8859-1). HTH -- Ralph Sanford - If your government does not trust you, [EMAIL PROTECTED] - should you trust your government? DH/DSS Key - 0x7A1BEA01 ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: OpenOffice and Powerpoint
Hmmm What I am going to have are four or five directories, each containing 4 or 5 jpg images. The contents of each directory must be displayed in proper order, but the order of presentation at the directory level will be random. Since these presentations are at least a weekly event, what I am trying to do is work out a system where presentations can be generated with very little effort. I was wondering how I could generate Powerpoint presentations semi-automatically. That idea sounds dumb, when I write it down and look at it on paper. HTML might be better suited for this. It would be no sweat to create the html with sed and a little knowledge of html (That's describes my knowledge of html). Given the excellent results I have been getting with html2ps and ps2pdf, maybe the whole thing can be made into one big pdf file. In full screen mode, this might make a very nice presentation. Now, that would give 'em something to talk about. It is interesting how many possibilities come to mind when you stop thinking in terms of MS software! This idea has merit. Got any more ideas? Thanks, Joel On Sat, Jan 04, 2003 at 10:27:55AM -0800, Bill Campbell wrote: On Sat, Jan 04, 2003 at 09:26:33AM -0500, Joel Hammer wrote: Does anyone have experience exporting from OpenOffice to PowerPoint? I want to export simple presentations, just images slides and text slides. Have you thought of doing the presentation using html and a standard browser instead? That way it's not proprietary, and can be viewed anywhere. Bill -- INTERNET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Bill Campbell; Celestial Software LLC UUCP: camco!bill PO Box 820; 6641 E. Mercer Way FAX:(206) 232-9186 Mercer Island, WA 98040-0820; (206) 236-1676 URL: http://www.celestial.com/ ``Liberty don't work as good in practice as it does in speeches.'' Will Rogers ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: OpenOffice and Powerpoint
On Sat, Jan 04, 2003 at 02:22:51PM -0500, Joel Hammer wrote:
Hmmm
What I am going to have are four or five directories, each containing 4 or
5 jpg images. The contents of each directory must be displayed in proper
order, but the order of presentation at the directory level will be random.
Since these presentations are at least a weekly event, what I am trying
to do is work out a system where presentations can be generated with
very little effort. I was wondering how I could generate Powerpoint
presentations semi-automatically. That idea sounds dumb, when I write
it down and look at it on paper.
Computers are best when they automate repetitive tasks. One of
my primary gripes with M$ GUI programs like Word is that they
make many jobs more difficult. I've been automating reports from
databases using perl scripts and groff for years.
HTML might be better suited for this. It would be no sweat to create the html
with sed and a little knowledge of html (That's describes my knowledge of
html). Given the excellent results I have been getting with html2ps and
ps2pdf, maybe the whole thing can be made into one big pdf file. In full
screen mode, this might make a very nice presentation. Now, that would
give 'em something to talk about.
It is interesting how many possibilities come to mind when you stop
thinking in terms of MS software!
This idea has merit. Got any more ideas?
I'm attaching a quicky script I wrote to create web pages with
thumbnails to catalog images in a directory. This is crude, but
should give you some ideas.
Bill
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#!/usr/local/bin/perl
eval ' exec /usr/local/bin/perl -S $0 $@ '
if $running_under_some_shell;
shift if(join(, @ARGV) eq ); # Xenix Kludge
# $Header: /u/usr/cvs/lbin/getopt.perl,v 1.14 2000/10/19 23:04:35 bill Exp $
# $Date: 2000/10/19 23:04:35 $
# @(#) $Id: getopt.perl,v 1.14 2000/10/19 23:04:35 bill Exp $
use File::Basename;
my ($progname, $dirname) = fileparse($0); # save this very early
chop($dirname);
do /usr/bin/csspath.perl unless $ENV{'USR_BIN_CSSPATH'};
$USAGE =
#
# Usage: $progname [-v] [-e var=value]
#
# Options ArgumentDescription
# -f filenameFile containing images to index
# -c integer Number of columns (default 5)
# -v Verbose
#
;
sub usage {
die join(\n,@_) .
\n$USAGE\n;
}
# This is in the prototype because it's frequently fiddled on a
# case by case basis for local debugging.
sub run {
my $cmd = shift;
print STDERR system($cmd) if $verbose;
system($cmd);
}
# do getopts.pl;
use strict;
use Getopt::Long;
Getopt::Long::Configure qw {require_order bundling};
# declare global variables
use vars (
'%opt_e', # environment settings
'$opt_h', # print help
'$opt_v', # Verbose
'$verbose',
'$opt_c',
'$opt_f',
);
usage(Invalid Option) unless GetOptions (
'-e=s%',# environment variables
'-h|help',
'-v|verbose',
'-c|columns=n',
'-f|file-list=s',
);
for (keys %opt_e) {
$ENV{$_} = $opt_e{$_};
}
$verbose = '-v' if $opt_v;
my $suffix = $$ unless $opt_v;
sub un_taint {
my $PATH = $ENV{'PATH'};
$ENV{'PATH'} = $PATH;
$ = $;# make it ignore taintedness (
$) = $(;# gids )
}
# un_taint(); # make it ignore taintedness
# this sets TMPDIR to the largest available temporary directory.
require 'bigtmp.pl'; my $TMPDIR = bigtmp();
$\ = \n; # use newlines as separators.
my $seq = 0;
my $fmt = qq(convert '%s' -geometry 80x60 %s);
$opt_c = 5 unless $opt_c;
open(INDEX, index.html);
print INDEX titleIndex to @ARGV/title;
print INDEX h1Index to @ARGV/h1;
print INDEX table col=$opt_c;
open(INPUT, ($opt_f ? $opt_f : gfind @ARGV -follow -type f | sort |));
my @table_lines = ();
while(INPUT) {
chomp;
next if (/\.xvpics/);
next unless(/\.(jpe{0,1}g|gif|tif{1,2}|png|xpm)$/i);
$seq++;
my $thumbnail = sprintf(image_%04d.jpg, $seq);
my $cmd = sprintf($fmt, $_, $thumbnail);
run($cmd) unless -f $thumbnail;
push(@table_lines,
qq(tdA href=file:$_img src=$thumbnail/a/td));
}
while(@table_lines) {
print INDEX join(\n\t, 'tr',
splice(@table_lines, 0, $opt_c),
'/tr');
}
print INDEX /table;
__END__
convert 01100076.jpg -geometry 160x120 /tmp/test.jpg
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Re: OpenOffice and Powerpoint
Joel Hammer wrote: HTML might be better suited for this. It would be no sweat to create the html with sed and a little knowledge of html (That's describes my knowledge of html). Given the excellent results I have been getting with html2ps and ps2pdf, maybe the whole thing can be made into one big pdf file. In full screen mode, this might make a very nice presentation. Now, that would give 'em something to talk about. Hi, I'm afraid I know absolutely nothing about PP, but here's something that might interest you. Check out a slide presentation on the Knoppix website (www.knoppix.org - select the USA/British flag for the English pages) entitled Slides for the Knoppix Presentation at the Chemnitzer Linux-Tagen 2002. They actually are PP/Impress type presentations, but done in PDF. I came across them on the Knoppix iso I downloaded a couple of weeks ago. I didn't even know you could do this in PDF, but it looks great. If you can find out how they built them, this might be the way to go. Cheers! cmr -- Registered Linux User #241964 Do not meddle in the affairs of Wizards, for they are subtle and quick to anger. -- Samwise Gamgee ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: OpenOffice Sluggishness
On Wed, 11 Dec 2002, Bob Raymond wrote: All right, if the ice is not so bad my father can get to work, I'll ask him to download it there. Thanks Ice? you mean that stuff falls from the sky?? ;) -- ~~ Lonni J Friedman[EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step TyGeMo http://netllama.ipfox.com ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: OpenOffice Sluggishness
On Wednesday 11 December 2002 01:44 pm, Net Llama! wrote: On Wed, 11 Dec 2002, Bob Raymond wrote: All right, if the ice is not so bad my father can get to work, I'll ask him to download it there. Thanks Ice? you mean that stuff falls from the sky?? ;) Freezing rain... I went out to test it this morning... slipped before I made it off the front porch... and I have to wait until tomorrow for him to download it due to our truck's lack of chains. Bob Raymond ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: OpenOffice Sluggishness
On Tuesday 10 December 2002 11:53 pm, Collins wrote: Fyi, I'm running the binary version (directly downloaded from OO rather than the openoffice-bin ebuild) and it works like a champ. I'm only running an 800 Mz machine, so startup is a full 15-16 seconds, but no sluggishness after that. Screen redraws are practically instantaneous. 2.4.19 kernel. I'm all for install from source for most things, but I have no desire to compile this beast ever. OK. I've discovered it wasn't OO. It was OpenGL. After the first power outage today (a two second job that still knocked the comp. off), I noticed that my screensaver (which had previously been very jerky) was now smooth. OpenOffice, which uses OpenGL for its interface, performs just fine now. Sorry to trouble the group, and at least I don't have to waste that 12 hr. compile now ;) Bob Raymond ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: OpenOffice Sluggishness
On Wed, 11 Dec 2002, Bob Raymond wrote: On Tuesday 10 December 2002 11:53 pm, Collins wrote: Fyi, I'm running the binary version (directly downloaded from OO rather than the openoffice-bin ebuild) and it works like a champ. I'm only running an 800 Mz machine, so startup is a full 15-16 seconds, but no sluggishness after that. Screen redraws are practically instantaneous. 2.4.19 kernel. I'm all for install from source for most things, but I have no desire to compile this beast ever. OK. I've discovered it wasn't OO. It was OpenGL. After the first power outage today (a two second job that still knocked the comp. off), I noticed that my screensaver (which had previously been very jerky) was now smooth. OpenOffice, which uses OpenGL for its interface, performs just fine now. Sorry to trouble the group, and at least I don't have to waste that 12 hr. compile now ;) Since when does OpenOffice use OpenGL for anything?? It doesn't on my boxes, since i dont' have OpenGL installed on any but one. -- ~~ Lonni J Friedman[EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step TyGeMo http://netllama.ipfox.com ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: OpenOffice Sluggishness
On Wednesday 11 December 2002 07:55 pm, Net Llama! wrote: On Wed, 11 Dec 2002, Bob Raymond wrote: OK. I've discovered it wasn't OO. It was OpenGL. After the first power outage today (a two second job that still knocked the comp. off), I noticed that my screensaver (which had previously been very jerky) was now smooth. OpenOffice, which uses OpenGL for its interface, performs just fine now. Sorry to trouble the group, and at least I don't have to waste that 12 hr. compile now ;) Since when does OpenOffice use OpenGL for anything?? It doesn't on my boxes, since i dont' have OpenGL installed on any but one. It seems like it can... Tools - Options - OpenOffice.org - View, and it's part of 3D View, and you can select Use OpenGL. Bob Raymond ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
OpenOffice Sluggishness
Yes, I know the program is usually slow, but what about when it is unusually slow? I've got OpenOffice 1.0.1 compiled as of yesterday morning on my Gentoo 1.4rc* system with Portage 2.0.45, GCC 3.2.1, Glibc 2.3.1, and Blackdown JDK 1.4.1beta, kernel 2.5.51, and it was compiled under 2.5.50bk5. My hardware is Athlon 1.4, EPoX 8K5A3+ (VIA KT333) mainboard, 512MB PC3200 DDR from Corsair's XMS series. The only reason I'm using the 2.5.xx series of kernels is that they seem to have the best support for my Highpoint 374 controller. The program loads the main window, and spends a good minute or two drawing it. It spends the time redrawing it every time I switch to another app. I've never gotten far enough to be able to type anything because it is sooo sluggish. I've tried setting the priority on the process to as low as -13 or so, and nothing helps. Anything I might try to make the beast useable? The prog. worked on my previous (because it got hosed) Gentoo install, where it was compiled with Blackdown 1.3.1, GCC 3.2, and Glibc 2.2.5. TIA Bob Raymond ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: OpenOffice Sluggishness
On 12/10/02 19:41, Bob Raymond wrote: Yes, I know the program is usually slow, but what about when it is unusually slow? I've got OpenOffice 1.0.1 compiled as of yesterday morning on my Gentoo 1.4rc* system with Portage 2.0.45, GCC 3.2.1, Glibc 2.3.1, and Blackdown JDK 1.4.1beta, kernel 2.5.51, and it was compiled under 2.5.50bk5. My hardware is Athlon 1.4, EPoX 8K5A3+ (VIA KT333) mainboard, 512MB PC3200 DDR from Corsair's XMS series. The only reason I'm using the 2.5.xx series of kernels is that they seem to have the best support for my Highpoint 374 controller. The program loads the main window, and spends a good minute or two drawing it. It spends the time redrawing it every time I switch to another app. I've never gotten far enough to be able to type anything because it is sooo sluggish. I've tried setting the priority on the process to as low as -13 or so, and nothing helps. Anything I might try to make the beast useable? The prog. worked on my previous (because it got hosed) Gentoo install, where it was compiled with Blackdown 1.3.1, GCC 3.2, and Glibc 2.2.5. I'm wondering why you feel the need to compile it in the first place? Does the precompiled version run as slowly for you? -- ~ L. Friedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step TyGeMo: http://netllama.ipfox.com 7:40pm up 9 days, 5:07, 3 users, load average: 0.01, 0.14, 0.11 ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: OpenOffice Sluggishness
On Wednesday 11 December 2002 03:44 am, Net Llama! wrote: On 12/10/02 19:41, Bob Raymond wrote: Yes, I know the program is usually slow, but what about when it is unusually slow? I've got OpenOffice 1.0.1 compiled as of yesterday morning on my Gentoo 1.4rc* system with Portage 2.0.45, GCC 3.2.1, Glibc 2.3.1, and Blackdown JDK 1.4.1beta, kernel 2.5.51, and it was compiled under 2.5.50bk5. My hardware is Athlon 1.4, EPoX 8K5A3+ (VIA KT333) mainboard, 512MB PC3200 DDR from Corsair's XMS series. The only reason I'm using the 2.5.xx series of kernels is that they seem to have the best support for my Highpoint 374 controller. The program loads the main window, and spends a good minute or two drawing it. It spends the time redrawing it every time I switch to another app. I've never gotten far enough to be able to type anything because it is sooo sluggish. I've tried setting the priority on the process to as low as -13 or so, and nothing helps. Anything I might try to make the beast useable? The prog. worked on my previous (because it got hosed) Gentoo install, where it was compiled with Blackdown 1.3.1, GCC 3.2, and Glibc 2.2.5. I'm wondering why you feel the need to compile it in the first place? Does the precompiled version run as slowly for you? I have no idea, never having downloaded it. If someone wants to download it and stick it on a CD... I downloaded OpenOffice 1.0.0 source and it took a good 20 hours just for the download, and the binary version is no smaller- and this is Gentoo, where while there is an openoffice-bin ebuild, it's more fun to compile. Thanks Bob Raymond ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: OpenOffice Sluggishness
On 12/10/02 19:56, Bob Raymond wrote: On Wednesday 11 December 2002 03:44 am, Net Llama! wrote: On 12/10/02 19:41, Bob Raymond wrote: Yes, I know the program is usually slow, but what about when it is unusually slow? I've got OpenOffice 1.0.1 compiled as of yesterday morning on my Gentoo 1.4rc* system with Portage 2.0.45, GCC 3.2.1, Glibc 2.3.1, and Blackdown JDK 1.4.1beta, kernel 2.5.51, and it was compiled under 2.5.50bk5. My hardware is Athlon 1.4, EPoX 8K5A3+ (VIA KT333) mainboard, 512MB PC3200 DDR from Corsair's XMS series. The only reason I'm using the 2.5.xx series of kernels is that they seem to have the best support for my Highpoint 374 controller. The program loads the main window, and spends a good minute or two drawing it. It spends the time redrawing it every time I switch to another app. I've never gotten far enough to be able to type anything because it is sooo sluggish. I've tried setting the priority on the process to as low as -13 or so, and nothing helps. Anything I might try to make the beast useable? The prog. worked on my previous (because it got hosed) Gentoo install, where it was compiled with Blackdown 1.3.1, GCC 3.2, and Glibc 2.2.5. I'm wondering why you feel the need to compile it in the first place? Does the precompiled version run as slowly for you? I have no idea, never having downloaded it. If someone wants to download it and stick it on a CD... I downloaded OpenOffice 1.0.0 source and it took a good 20 hours just for the download, and the binary version is no smaller- and this is Gentoo, where while there is an openoffice-bin ebuild, it's more fun to compile. Well, sure its more fun to compile, but i'm suggesting that something in your build is horked. At least with the binary you can rule out some variables. The binary has always ran just fine for me on the 4 boxes where i've got it installed. -- ~ L. Friedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step TyGeMo: http://netllama.ipfox.com 8:05pm up 9 days, 5:32, 2 users, load average: 0.24, 0.26, 0.15 ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: OpenOffice Sluggishness
On Wed, 11 Dec 2002 04:29:39 + Bob Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wednesday 11 December 2002 04:10 am, Net Llama! wrote: On 12/10/02 19:56, Bob Raymond wrote: On Wednesday 11 December 2002 03:44 am, Net Llama! wrote: On 12/10/02 19:41, Bob Raymond wrote: Yes, I know the program is usually slow, but what about when it is unusually slow? I've got OpenOffice 1.0.1 compiled as of yesterday morning on my Gentoo 1.4rc* system with Portage 2.0.45, GCC 3.2.1, Glibc 2.3.1, and Blackdown JDK 1.4.1beta, kernel 2.5.51, and it was compiled under 2.5.50bk5. My hardware is Athlon 1.4, EPoX 8K5A3+ (VIA KT333) mainboard, 512MB PC3200 DDR from Corsair's XMS series. The only reason I'm using the 2.5.xx series of kernels is that they seem to have the best support for my Highpoint 374 controller. The program loads the main window, and spends a good minute or two drawing it. It spends the time redrawing it every time I switch to another app. I've never gotten far enough to be able to type anything because it is sooo sluggish. I've tried setting the priority on the process to as low as -13 or so, and nothing helps. Anything I might try to make the beast useable? The prog. worked on my previous (because it got hosed) Gentoo install, where it was compiled with Blackdown 1.3.1, GCC 3.2, and Glibc 2.2.5. I'm wondering why you feel the need to compile it in the first place? Does the precompiled version run as slowly for you? I have no idea, never having downloaded it. If someone wants to download it and stick it on a CD... I downloaded OpenOffice 1.0.0 source and it took a good 20 hours just for the download, and the binary version is no smaller- and this is Gentoo, where while there is an openoffice-bin ebuild, it's more fun to compile. Well, sure its more fun to compile, but i'm suggesting that something in your build is horked. At least with the binary you can rule out some variables. The binary has always ran just fine for me on the 4 boxes where i've got it installed. All right, if the ice is not so bad my father can get to work, I'll ask him to download it there. Thanks Fyi, I'm running the binary version (directly downloaded from OO rather than the openoffice-bin ebuild) and it works like a champ. I'm only running an 800 Mz machine, so startup is a full 15-16 seconds, but no sluggishness after that. Screen redraws are practically instantaneous. 2.4.19 kernel. I'm all for install from source for most things, but I have no desire to compile this beast ever. -- Collins Richey - Denver Area Gentoo 1.4 sytem ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
OT OpenOffice templates
I do not know if anyone else knows this or not, but here goes. I have downloaded a bunch of templates for M$ office word, one or two have popup dialogs that gather some info, of course they work ubder MS, but they also work under Linux openoffice 1.0.1. That includes *.dot files and popup dialogs. I guess you can bring over all of the M$ office templates to Linux. Is this a big WIN for Linux or not. I wouldthink this is a nice selling point. Way to go OO cheers -- Rick Sivernell Dallas, Texas 75287 972 306-2296 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Caldera Open Linux eWorkStation 3.1.1 Registered Linux User .~. / v \ /( _ )\ ^ ^ In Linux we trust! ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
diff OpenOffice StarOffice
The OO.org site has this about the differences: + Certain fonts (including, especially, Asian language fonts) + The database component (Adabas D) + Some templates + Extensive Clip Art Gallery + Some sorting functionality (Asian versions) + Certain file filters Does anyone know what the certain file filters is? Specifically, will SO be a better drop-in replacement for MSOfc than OO? Thanks, Michael ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: diff OpenOffice StarOffice
On Tuesday 02 July 2002 9:36 am, Michael Hipp wrote: Does anyone know what the certain file filters is? Specifically, will SO be a better drop-in replacement for MSOfc than OO? Can't say for certain but my SO 6.0 shows that I can save a file in: Microsoft Word 97/2000/xp whatever that does for you. -- ++ + Bruce S. Marshall [EMAIL PROTECTED] Bellaire, MI 07/02/02 09:57 + ++ You might be a high-tech Red-neck if: you know how to take the cover off of your computer, and what size screw driver to use ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: diff OpenOffice StarOffice
Michael Hipp wrote: Does anyone know what the certain file filters is? Specifically, will SO be a better drop-in replacement for MSOfc than OO? For one, SO has a filter to import WordPerfect documents, while OpenOffice does not (altho it is being worked on). BOF ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: diff OpenOffice StarOffice
So does OO... On Tue, 2 Jul 2002 09:59:08 -0400 Bruce Marshall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tuesday 02 July 2002 9:36 am, Michael Hipp wrote: Does anyone know what the certain file filters is? Specifically, will SO be a better drop-in replacement for MSOfc than OO? Can't say for certain but my SO 6.0 shows that I can save a file in: Microsoft Word 97/2000/xp whatever that does for you. -- +-- --++ Bruce S. Marshall [EMAIL PROTECTED] Bellaire, MI 07/02/02 09:57 ++- ---+You might be a high-tech Red-neck if: you know how to take the cover off of your computer, and what size screw driver to use ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL. ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: OpenOffice
On Tue, 4 Jun 2002 23:30:57 -0400 Joel Hammer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does anyone have any intense experience with openoffice, in particular, the spreadsheet? I used to use StarOffice 5.2 but gave it up in favor of vi and Excel (running under win4lin). (Obviously, I don't have to exchange text documents at work, just spreadsheets.) I was never happy with the spreadsheet in SO. The spreadsheet in staroffice didn't have built in functions for data analysis, as far as I could find, and was awkward in other ways, not nearly as nice as Excel. And, I had to have painless compatibility with Excel. I just got an excel spreadsheel that did all kind of funny lookups via excel functions. I did not expect it to work in OO 1.0. Well, it did. Perfectly. As I understand it, OO 1.0 has most all the excel functions, as well as a BASIC scripting language. I don't know how/if the BASIC matches what people would use in excel, but the functions are supposed to be compatible. -- ++===+ | Roger Oberholtzer | E-mail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | | OPQ Systems AB | WWW: http://www.opq.se/ | | Erik Dahlbergsgatan 41-43 |Phone: Int + 46 8 314223 | | 115 32 Stockholm | Mobile: Int + 46 733 621657 | | Sweden | Fax: Int + 46 8 302602 | ++===+ ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: OpenOffice
I moved to OO when 1.0 was released, and it is all I use now. I used Excel to do Monthly Usage reports that pulled from other files, and to my surprise, it all worked. The only downside is that you have to learn where the features are buried. While this is a minor thing, it is still an issue if you plan on converting an entire site to it As we all know, end users hate change! To sum it all up, anyone and everyone I know that uses it, LOVES it. Quoting Roger Oberholtzer [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Tue, 4 Jun 2002 23:30:57 -0400 Joel Hammer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does anyone have any intense experience with openoffice, in particular, the spreadsheet? I used to use StarOffice 5.2 but gave it up in favor of vi and Excel (running under win4lin). (Obviously, I don't have to exchange text documents at work, just spreadsheets.) I was never happy with the spreadsheet in SO. The spreadsheet in staroffice didn't have built in functions for data analysis, as far as I could find, and was awkward in other ways, not nearly as nice as Excel. And, I had to have painless compatibility with Excel. I just got an excel spreadsheel that did all kind of funny lookups via excel functions. I did not expect it to work in OO 1.0. Well, it did. Perfectly. As I understand it, OO 1.0 has most all the excel functions, as well as a BASIC scripting language. I don't know how/if the BASIC matches what people would use in excel, but the functions are supposed to be compatible. -- ++===+ | Roger Oberholtzer | E-mail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | | OPQ Systems AB | WWW: http://www.opq.se/ | | Erik Dahlbergsgatan 41-43 |Phone: Int + 46 8 314223 | | 115 32 Stockholm | Mobile: Int + 46 733 621657 | | Sweden | Fax: Int + 46 8 302602 | ++===+ ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL. Eniac Most human have an almost infinite capacity for taking thingsfor granted. --Aldous Huxley ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: OpenOffice
Am Mittwoch, 5. Juni 2002 05:30 schrieb Joel Hammer: The spreadsheet in staroffice didn't have built in functions for data analysis, as far as I could find, and was awkward in other ways, not nearly as nice as Excel. And, I had to have painless compatibility with Excel. When you think of sophisticated statistical functions like regression, analysis of variance, t-test ... I didn't find them in OO as well. Perhaps they will be included as add-ins later, but I didn't see any clue at the openoffice.org site. As far as I remember, even in Excel (which BTW is one of the rare excellent programs coming from M$) these goodies aren't built in, but add-ins as well. Apart from these statistical functions, I have imported quite weird Excel sheets to OO without problems. Klaus ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
OpenOffice
Does anyone have any intense experience with openoffice, in particular, the spreadsheet? I used to use StarOffice 5.2 but gave it up in favor of vi and Excel (running under win4lin). (Obviously, I don't have to exchange text documents at work, just spreadsheets.) I was never happy with the spreadsheet in SO. The spreadsheet in staroffice didn't have built in functions for data analysis, as far as I could find, and was awkward in other ways, not nearly as nice as Excel. And, I had to have painless compatibility with Excel. But, I would like to stop using Excel, if only so my wife and I don't fight over using windows (she's using an X terminal to get win4lin on her linux box.) Any experience? Thanks, Joel ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
OpenOffice 1.0
Hi All, For those interested OpenOffice 1.0 is out http://openoffice.org James ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
