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What? HERD...? Wasn't the herd kernel a response of Richard Stallman to his disappointment at not getting the appropriate recognition for all the gnu utilities that have been pivotal in Linux becoming what it is today? Or so I read somewhere in Linux Format or Linux Journal. Oh and why the heck are Linux magazines s expensive? I pay $18-$20AUD each for them. What does eveyone else have to shell out or do y'all not buy them? -- James McDonald Systems Engineer Public key (824785B3) available at http://www.keyserver.net/ ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
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I thought the Herd project was older than Linux. It just never really took off. Linux is what Hurd was supposed to be, more or less. Right? I think RS is po'd that Linux beat Herd to the punch. On Wed, 18 Sep 2002 20:52:21 -1000 James McDonald [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What? HERD...? Wasn't the herd kernel a response of Richard Stallman to his disappointment at not getting the appropriate recognition for all the gnu utilities that have been pivotal in Linux becoming what it is today? Or so I read somewhere in Linux Format or Linux Journal. -- ++===+ | Roger Oberholtzer | E-mail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | | OPQ Systems AB | WWW: http://www.opq.se/ | | Erik Dahlbergsgatan 41-43 |Phone: Int + 46 8 314223 | | 115 32 Stockholm | Mobile: Int + 46 733 621657 | | Sweden | Fax: Int + 46 8 302602 | ++===+ ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
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begin mpdickens's quote: | What? HERD...?... Excuse me, but the last time I looked at HERD, | I realized the reason they named it HERD was because SH!T was | already taken. Talk about bad open source politics: this is the | poster child. look at it this way. most people have never hurd of hurd, and it's sufficiently unpleasant-sounding that nobody much will go to any trouble to find out about it. on the other hand, it's one of those things like esperanto support -- those who care about it are better off doing it rather than making messes elsewhere. -- dep http://www.linuxandmain.com -- outside the box, barely within the envelope, and no animated paperclip anywhere. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
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begin James McDonald's quote: | Wasn't the herd kernel a response of Richard Stallman to his | disappointment at not getting the appropriate recognition for all | the gnu utilities that have been pivotal in Linux becoming what it | is today? no. hurd has been swirling in the caldron (some say it's not a caldron) for some time; it, or plans for it, predates linux. development has been, uh, slow. -- dep http://www.linuxandmain.com -- outside the box, barely within the envelope, and no animated paperclip anywhere. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
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no. hurd has been swirling in the caldron (some say it's not a caldron) for some time; it, or plans for it, predates linux. development has been, uh, slow. see how much you can learn by posting mildly erroneous stuff to this list it doesn't stay erroneous for long. Ohh and erroneous is my word of the day so please forgive it's overuse -- James McDonald Systems Engineer Public key (824785B3) available at http://www.keyserver.net/ ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
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On Wed, 18 Sep 2002, James McDonald wrote: What? HERD...? Wasn't the herd kernel a response of Richard Stallman to his disappointment at not getting the appropriate recognition for all the gnu utilities that have been pivotal in Linux becoming what it is today? Or so I read somewhere in Linux Format or Linux Journal. Oh and why the heck are Linux magazines s expensive? I pay $18-$20AUD each for them. What does eveyone else have to shell out or do y'all not buy them? I currently subscribe to Linux Journal. I find the content worth the cost, 2 years for US$45. I used to subscribe to Linux Magazine, but got pissed at their rapidly dwindling content, rapidly dwindling loss of quality in the content that remained, and poor customer service (i didn't receive an issue for 3 months in a row, and their excuse was, your postman lost it, sorry). I occasionally see UK based linux publications in Barnes Noble that seem to be decent quality, but i can't really gate whether their subscription cost is fair (i coudl never accurately convert British pounds into US dollars on the fly). -- ~~ Lonni J Friedman[EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step TyGeMo http://netllama.ipfox.com ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
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On Wed, Sep 18, 2002 at 02:01:49PM +0200, Roger Oberholtzer wrote: I thought the Herd project was older than Linux. It just never really took off. Linux is what Hurd was supposed to be, more or less. Right? I think RS is po'd that Linux beat Herd to the punch. Hurd had some, um, development issues. It is also based on the MACH microkernel, which makes it quite a different critter than the monolithic Linux kernel. On Wed, 18 Sep 2002 20:52:21 -1000 James McDonald [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What? HERD...? Wasn't the herd kernel a response of Richard Stallman to his disappointment at not getting the appropriate recognition for all the gnu utilities that have been pivotal in Linux becoming what it is today? Or so I read somewhere in Linux Format or Linux Journal. Kurt ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
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On Wednesday 18 September 2002 11:52 pm,James McDonald wrote: What? HERD...? Wasn't the herd kernel a response of Richard Stallman to his disappointment at not getting the appropriate recognition for all the gnu utilities that have been pivotal in Linux becoming what it is today? Or so I read somewhere in Linux Format or Linux Journal. What I had read from one of the old-timers was that HURD predated Linux but would never compile. Oh and why the heck are Linux magazines s expensive? I pay $18-$20AUD each for them. What does eveyone else have to shell out or do y'all not buy them? The extra cost is to cover the additional insurance required when shipping to Oz because of the high incidence of kangaroos eating them off the newsracks. -- Tony Alfrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'd rather be sailing ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
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CRIMEY! That's 'roo ta ya mate! SNIP Oh and why the heck are Linux magazines s expensive? I pay $18-$20AUD each for them. What does eveyone else have to shell out or do y'all not buy them? The extra cost is to cover the additional insurance required when shipping to Oz because of the high incidence of kangaroos eating them off the newsracks. -- Ben Duncan Phone (601)-355-2574 Fax (601)-355-2573 Cell (601)-946-1220 Business Network Solutions 336 Elton Road Jackson MS, 39212 Software is like Sex, it is better when it's free - Linus Torvalds ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
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Ben Duncan wrote: CRIMEY! That's 'roo ta ya mate! SNIP Oh and why the heck are Linux magazines s expensive? I pay $18-$20AUD each for them. What does eveyone else have to shell out or do y'all not buy them? The extra cost is to cover the additional insurance required when shipping to Oz because of the high incidence of kangaroos eating them off the newsracks. -- Ben Duncan Phone (601)-355-2574 Fax (601)-355-2573 Cell (601)-946-1220 Business Network Solutions 336 Elton Road Jackson MS, 39212 Software is like Sex, it is better when it's free - Linus Torvalds Then there's the dingo problem who have a fondness for the enclosed linux cds. Seriously though, if linux mags cost that much it would seem that there is a business opportunity and market for a reasonably priced mag. Lee ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
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I have a RANT: I gotta tell ya: Here I am, at http://www.ibiblio.org webpage that contains just about all of the linux distro's that are available... I'm reading the various descriptions of the distros. I come to the Debian description and it states: Debian is kernel independent. It currently uses the Linux kernel but work is in progress to provide Debian for other kernels, using Hurd. What? HERD...?... Excuse me, but the last time I looked at HERD, I realized the reason they named it HERD was because SH!T was already taken. Talk about bad open source politics: this is the poster child. END RANT Best Peck ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
