Re: Redhat 9 and KDE
On Mon, 23 Jun 2003 15:43:48 -0400 Matthew Carpenter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You should really check out SuSE if this is your goal. Most software is included, including Sylpheed 0.8.10claws72, and almost everyhing you need as a default install. Once you install, you can export a package listing and duplicate that install the next time as well. SuSE has renewed my hopes in Desktop Linux. 8.2 professional is the best distro I've seen yet. If you are interested in the great looking and feeling KDE, you want SuSE 8.2, which focusses on KDE (whereas RH focusses on Gnome) and the default SuSE theme is Keramik, which is gorgeous (and doesn't break KDE like RH does) Well, I did install RH9 and I can say that they have done a great job of making the KDE desktop boring and have the appearance of less functionality. I say 'appearance of' because it is all (or most all) there. It is just that all the bells and whistles are simply not obvious. No surprise, I guess, as they prefer Gnome. Beyond that initial impression, I have yet to play with it to see what RH is really up to. I will try SuSE as well to make an informed decision as to the two dominant commercial distros. -- ++···+ · Roger Oberholtzer · E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]· · OPQ Systems AB · WWW: http://www.opq.se/ · · Erik Dahlbergsgatan 41-43 ·Phone: Int + 46 8 314223 · · 115 34 Stockholm · Mobile: Int + 46 733 621657 · · Sweden · Fax: Int + 46 8 302602 · ++···+ ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Redhat 9 and KDE
Matthew Carpenter wrote: You should really check out SuSE if this is your goal. Most software is included, including Sylpheed 0.8.10claws72, and almost everyhing you need as a default install. Once you install, you can export a package listing and duplicate that install the next time as well. SuSE has renewed my hopes in Desktop Linux. 8.2 professional is the best distro I've seen yet. If you are interested in the great looking and feeling KDE, you want SuSE 8.2, which focusses on KDE (whereas RH focusses on Gnome) and the default SuSE theme is Keramik, which is gorgeous (and doesn't break KDE like RH does) $0.02 ching If any one wants a slightly used (i.e. one time) SuSE 8.2 Professional, let me know. You can have it for $40 plus whatever it costs to ship it. -- Leon A. Goldstein Powered by Libranet 1.9.1 Debian Linux System 5151 ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Redhat 9 and KDE
You should really check out SuSE if this is your goal. Most software is included, including Sylpheed 0.8.10claws72, and almost everyhing you need as a default install. Once you install, you can export a package listing and duplicate that install the next time as well. SuSE has renewed my hopes in Desktop Linux. 8.2 professional is the best distro I've seen yet. If you are interested in the great looking and feeling KDE, you want SuSE 8.2, which focusses on KDE (whereas RH focusses on Gnome) and the default SuSE theme is Keramik, which is gorgeous (and doesn't break KDE like RH does) $0.02 ching On Tue, 17 Jun 2003 13:24:02 +0200 Roger Oberholtzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 17 Jun 2003 04:36:48 -0600 Myles Green [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 2003-06-17 at 04:13, Roger Oberholtzer wrote: I remember seeing that redhat did some wild integration of KDE and Gnome in their latest release. I never did get a feel for whether you could still run KDE with its own look. Is this possible? If so, is it so without hassle? Yes it is, just select a different theme for the various components (desktop theme, icon theme, etc). Also, if you're interested, the newest KDE available from ftp.kde.org installs cleanly and gets rid of the Blue Curve look as a default. BTW Ximian Desktop 2 (XD2) installs quite nicely (I downloaded the RPMs and installed them myself) and completes the purging of Blue Curve ;-) We are trying to see how far we can go with a distro without changing things. Updates beyond the original CDs are avoided when possible. -- ++···+ · Roger Oberholtzer · E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]· · OPQ Systems AB · WWW: http://www.opq.se/ · · Erik Dahlbergsgatan 41-43 ·Phone: Int + 46 8 314223 · · 115 34 Stockholm · Mobile: Int + 46 733 621657 · · Sweden · Fax: Int + 46 8 302602 · ++···+ ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users -- Matthew Carpenter [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.e-i-s.cc/ Enterprise Information Systems *Network Consulting, Integration Support *Web Development and E-Business ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Redhat 9 and KDE
On Tue, 2003-06-17 at 04:13, Roger Oberholtzer wrote: I remember seeing that redhat did some wild integration of KDE and Gnome in their latest release. I never did get a feel for whether you could still run KDE with its own look. Is this possible? If so, is it so without hassle? Yes it is, just select a different theme for the various components (desktop theme, icon theme, etc). Also, if you're interested, the newest KDE available from ftp.kde.org installs cleanly and gets rid of the Blue Curve look as a default. BTW Ximian Desktop 2 (XD2) installs quite nicely (I downloaded the RPMs and installed them myself) and completes the purging of Blue Curve ;-) HTH -- Myles Green [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Redhat 9 and KDE
On Tue, 17 Jun 2003 04:36:48 -0600 Myles Green [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 2003-06-17 at 04:13, Roger Oberholtzer wrote: I remember seeing that redhat did some wild integration of KDE and Gnome in their latest release. I never did get a feel for whether you could still run KDE with its own look. Is this possible? If so, is it so without hassle? Yes it is, just select a different theme for the various components (desktop theme, icon theme, etc). Also, if you're interested, the newest KDE available from ftp.kde.org installs cleanly and gets rid of the Blue Curve look as a default. BTW Ximian Desktop 2 (XD2) installs quite nicely (I downloaded the RPMs and installed them myself) and completes the purging of Blue Curve ;-) We are trying to see how far we can go with a distro without changing things. Updates beyond the original CDs are avoided when possible. -- ++···+ · Roger Oberholtzer · E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]· · OPQ Systems AB · WWW: http://www.opq.se/ · · Erik Dahlbergsgatan 41-43 ·Phone: Int + 46 8 314223 · · 115 34 Stockholm · Mobile: Int + 46 733 621657 · · Sweden · Fax: Int + 46 8 302602 · ++···+ ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Redhat 9 and KDE
On Tue, 2003-06-17 at 05:24, Roger Oberholtzer wrote: On Tue, 17 Jun 2003 04:36:48 -0600 Myles Green [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 2003-06-17 at 04:13, Roger Oberholtzer wrote: I remember seeing that redhat did some wild integration of KDE and Gnome in their latest release. I never did get a feel for whether you could still run KDE with its own look. Is this possible? If so, is it so without hassle? Yes it is, just select a different theme for the various components (desktop theme, icon theme, etc). Also, if you're interested, the newest KDE available from ftp.kde.org installs cleanly and gets rid of the Blue Curve look as a default. BTW Ximian Desktop 2 (XD2) installs quite nicely (I downloaded the RPMs and installed them myself) and completes the purging of Blue Curve ;-) We are trying to see how far we can go with a distro without changing things. Updates beyond the original CDs are avoided when possible. Then the answer is still yes, just look through the various settings under themes, icons etc. -- Myles Green [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Redhat 9 and KDE
We are trying to see how far we can go with a distro without changing things. Updates beyond the original CDs are avoided when possible. Then the answer is still yes, just look through the various settings under themes, icons etc. Great. RH9 arrives tomorrow. Let's see what it does. -- ++···+ · Roger Oberholtzer · E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]· · OPQ Systems AB · WWW: http://www.opq.se/ · · Erik Dahlbergsgatan 41-43 ·Phone: Int + 46 8 314223 · · 115 34 Stockholm · Mobile: Int + 46 733 621657 · · Sweden · Fax: Int + 46 8 302602 · ++···+ ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Redhat 9 and KDE
On 6/17/2003 8:36 AM, someone claiming to be Myles Green wrote: On Tue, 2003-06-17 at 05:24, Roger Oberholtzer wrote: On Tue, 17 Jun 2003 04:36:48 -0600 Myles Green [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 2003-06-17 at 04:13, Roger Oberholtzer wrote: I remember seeing that redhat did some wild integration of KDE and Gnome in their latest release. I never did get a feel for whether you could still run KDE with its own look. Is this possible? If so, is it so without hassle? Yes it is, just select a different theme for the various components (desktop theme, icon theme, etc). Also, if you're interested, the newest KDE available from ftp.kde.org installs cleanly and gets rid of the Blue Curve look as a default. BTW Ximian Desktop 2 (XD2) installs quite nicely (I downloaded the RPMs and installed them myself) and completes the purging of Blue Curve ;-) We are trying to see how far we can go with a distro without changing things. Updates beyond the original CDs are avoided when possible. Then the answer is still yes, just look through the various settings under themes, icons etc. Kinda off-thread, but there's also the kde-redhat project, http://kde-redhat.sf.net, which, when combined with apt for rpm, provides an easy way to keep kde up to date. Regards, Tim ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Redhat 9 and KDE
Kinda off-thread, but there's also the kde-redhat project, http://kde-redhat.sf.net, which, when combined with apt for rpm, provides an easy way to keep kde up to date. The main reason we have tried not to rely on these types of things is that the systems are in vehicles out on the road. We try to make it 'simple' to do a field reinstall, should the case arise. Although it hardly ever does, if we change this goal, I just know field installs will become common... For home use, I am a Gentoo/emerge devotee. -- ++···+ · Roger Oberholtzer · E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]· · OPQ Systems AB · WWW: http://www.opq.se/ · · Erik Dahlbergsgatan 41-43 ·Phone: Int + 46 8 314223 · · 115 34 Stockholm · Mobile: Int + 46 733 621657 · · Sweden · Fax: Int + 46 8 302602 · ++···+ ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
OT Re: Redhat 9 and KDE
On 6/17/2003 8:56 AM, someone claiming to be Roger Oberholtzer wrote: Kinda off-thread, but there's also the kde-redhat project, http://kde-redhat.sf.net, which, when combined with apt for rpm, provides an easy way to keep kde up to date. The main reason we have tried not to rely on these types of things is that the systems are in vehicles out on the road. We try to make it 'simple' to do a field reinstall, should the case arise. Although it hardly ever does, if we change this goal, I just know field installs will become common... For home use, I am a Gentoo/emerge devotee. Understood. That's why I said it was kinda off-thread as it doesn't apply to your situation. But others may not know about the kde-redhat project, so I threw it out there. FWIW, I keep the main kde installation up to date (currently kde 3.1.2, RHL 8.0) using apt and the kde-redhat project, for use by the wife and kids. Personally, I run KDE from CVS. Just started building what will be 3.2, but haven't actually run it on a regular basis. Sticking with 3.1 branch for now. (Yes, I have two CVS versions of kde installed, plus a released version.) Regards, Tim ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Redhat 9 and KDE
Roger Oberholtzer wrote: I remember seeing that redhat did some wild integration of KDE and Gnome in their latest release. I never did get a feel for whether you could still run KDE with its own look. Is this possible? If so, is it so without hassle? IIRC, there is an option under KDE to set it to the default KDE look. I can't provide more specific info as I no longer have access to a RH 9.0 system, but I do recall seeing it as an option somewhere. BOF ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Redhat 9 and KDE
On Tue, 17 Jun 2003 07:16:46 -0600 bof [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Roger Oberholtzer wrote: I remember seeing that redhat did some wild integration of KDE and Gnome intheir latest release. I never did get a feel for whether you could stillrun KDE with its own look. Is this possible? If so, is it so without hassle? IIRC, there is an option under KDE to set it to the default KDE look. I can't provide more specific info as I no longer have access to a RH 9.0 system, but I do recall seeing it as an option somewhere. It will be one of the first things I look for! BOF ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
