Re: Evangelism (dep style)
Glenn Williams wrote: Hi, Tim: What is a mozilla nightly? Thanks. Regards, Glenn Mozilla - the open source development project for Netscape 6 (and some other, lesser known, companies) - builds versions of the browser package every day with the latest changes and calls them nightlies. It's quite different using a nightly than a point release. You get additional bug fixes *and* bugs. Sometimes the thing won't even run (which is what my son found out this morning). Typically, I'll pull a nightly down every couple of days to see how things are coming along. More info can be found at http://www.mozilla.org. Regards, Tim On Thursday 06 September 2001 19:41, you wrote: My son has succumb to pressure from the old man to use linux full time (that and he couldn't get windows to install for some reason and I refused to help him...). So taking in the advice of dep's latest .comment on linuxplanet, I'm trying to be a good guru. Unfortunately, he's asked a question that I don't know the answer to. He's downloaded a couple of mozilla nightlies and has liked what he's seen. His initial comment was something like, wow, that's fast. Of course, the last time he tried Mozilla was probly two months ago. Anyway, I walked him thru downloading a nightly tar binary and extracting it to a local folder to run and he seemed happy with that. Now, though, he wants to automate the process. So he asked me if it could be done and how. I told him that I'm sure it could be done, but I don't know how. SO the task at hand is to downoad the latest mozilla nightly and untar it to a local folder autmatically every night. Any scripting gurus out there wanna share their expertise with a budding 13-year old linux geek? Thanks, Tim ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Updating gcc, et all
Hi folks, It seems, at least from a response on the kde-linux list I'm on, that gcc 2.95, which eW31 has, does not contain optimization code for athlon. This is claimed to be the cause of my system architecture being i686 despite checking Athlon in the kernel make xconfig (a post on the Caldera list that I didn't cross-post here). So the task at hand now is to upgrade gcc to a version that supports athlon optimizations. It appears that the SxS doesn't have anything listed for updating gcc. So before I download the latest 3.01 gcc, I'm looking for caveats from the bright folks on this list. Should I use 3.01, or another version (or just use the one i have and live with i686 optimizations)? What, other than gcc, should get updated in the process? Should I update glibc, too? As always, your assistance is greatly appreciated, Tim ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Evangelism (dep style)
Hi, Tim: Very informative reply. Mucho gracias. Regards, Glenn On Friday 07 September 2001 06:22, you wrote: Glenn Williams wrote: Hi, Tim: What is a mozilla nightly? Thanks. Regards, Glenn Mozilla - the open source development project for Netscape 6 (and some other, lesser known, companies) - builds versions of the browser package every day with the latest changes and calls them nightlies. It's quite different using a nightly than a point release. You get additional bug fixes *and* bugs. Sometimes the thing won't even run (which is what my son found out this morning). Typically, I'll pull a nightly down every couple of days to see how things are coming along. More info can be found at http://www.mozilla.org. Regards, Tim On Thursday 06 September 2001 19:41, you wrote: My son has succumb to pressure from the old man to use linux full time (that and he couldn't get windows to install for some reason and I refused to help him...). So taking in the advice of dep's latest .comment on linuxplanet, I'm trying to be a good guru. Unfortunately, he's asked a question that I don't know the answer to. He's downloaded a couple of mozilla nightlies and has liked what he's seen. His initial comment was something like, wow, that's fast. Of course, the last time he tried Mozilla was probly two months ago. Anyway, I walked him thru downloading a nightly tar binary and extracting it to a local folder to run and he seemed happy with that. Now, though, he wants to automate the process. So he asked me if it could be done and how. I told him that I'm sure it could be done, but I don't know how. SO the task at hand is to downoad the latest mozilla nightly and untar it to a local folder autmatically every night. Any scripting gurus out there wanna share their expertise with a budding 13-year old linux geek? Thanks, Tim ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users -- Glenn Williams - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Registered Linux User #135678 Powered by SuSE 7.2 Linux Professional ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
hey skippy
another application that might be of use to you... [057] - PyEXIF 0.9 by Martin Blais (http://freshmeat.net/users/blais/) Thursday, September 6th 2001 14:07 Categories: Multimedia :: Graphics :: Capture, Multimedia :: Graphics :: Capture :: Digital Camera About: PyEXIF is a Python module that can read the JPEG or TIFF EXIF tags containing digital imaging device parameters. This is useful for use with images from digital cameras which includes lots of useful information about the image acquisition (e.g. shutter speed, aperture, etc.). License: GNU Lesser General Public License (LGPL) URL: http://freshmeat.net/projects/pyexif/ -- Douglas J. Hunley ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) - Linux User #174778 Admin: http://hunley.homeip.net/Admin: http://linux.nf/ Brainbench Linux Administration Certified ~~ Now offering Linux admin services for the home user ~~ To make a bad day worse, spend it wishing for the impossible. -Calvin ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: M$ gets a free 'get out of jail card' Re: New SxS ?
dep wrote: On Thursday 06 September 2001 15:53, Zoki (News) wrote: | Today Net Llama was heard saying: | | snip | | -Wonderful how my tax dollars were used on a case that just got | thrown -away. | | | *** It's ridiculous! Not only are they making a fool of them selves | but also of the American public and the rest of the World | population. Further more they've given M'$oft an incredible push in | the back to go on with what they were doing and certainly even If you want see a real hosing of the taxpayers wait until the government shifts to XP and replaces all of its computers that are over two years old to accommodate it. Not to mention the lease payments. Bush with another busted budget to blame on the dumocrats. | more. ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: tar troubles
--- Tom Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thursday 06 September 2001 11:05 pm, Net Llama dropped these nuggets of information: --- Tom Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [snips] Hi Lonni tar cvf mail.tar mail Ummm...is 'mail' a file or a directory? If its a standard UNIX mail file, then its, well, a file. tar is for creating archives of multiple files. tar has no effect whatsoever on a single file. Have you tried just viewing the contents of mail.tar with a random text editor, or even less (or more) ? Mail was a directory for kmail. It had the drafts, inbox, outbox, trash, and my custom folders under it. Viewing it with less and vi filled the screen with @'s and ^'s. Same with xedit too. Oh, well. I was hoping. When you created the archive, did you see it add all the files? Is it possible that you used a much newer version of tar to create the archive than you're using to extract it? = Lonni J. Friedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux FAQ Step-by-step help:http://netllama.ipfox.com . __ Do You Yahoo!? Get email alerts NEW webcam video instant messaging with Yahoo! Messenger http://im.yahoo.com ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Updating gcc, et all
I'd be a bit hesitant to upgrade to gcc-3.x, as i've heard it still has some issues compiling certain types of binaries. Do you know if a slightly higher or slightly lower 2.9x version has athlon support? --- Tim Wunder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi folks, It seems, at least from a response on the kde-linux list I'm on, that gcc 2.95, which eW31 has, does not contain optimization code for athlon. This is claimed to be the cause of my system architecture being i686 despite checking Athlon in the kernel make xconfig (a post on the Caldera list that I didn't cross-post here). So the task at hand now is to upgrade gcc to a version that supports athlon optimizations. It appears that the SxS doesn't have anything listed for updating gcc. So before I download the latest 3.01 gcc, I'm looking for caveats from the bright folks on this list. Should I use 3.01, or another version (or just use the one i have and live with i686 optimizations)? What, other than gcc, should get updated in the process? Should I update glibc, too? As always, your assistance is greatly appreciated, = Lonni J. Friedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux FAQ Step-by-step help:http://netllama.ipfox.com . __ Do You Yahoo!? Get email alerts NEW webcam video instant messaging with Yahoo! Messenger http://im.yahoo.com ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Updating gcc, et all
On Friday 07 September 2001 09:01, Tim Wunder babbled: Hi folks, It seems, at least from a response on the kde-linux list I'm on, that gcc 2.95, which eW31 has, does not contain optimization code for athlon. This is claimed to be the cause of my system architecture being i686 despite checking Athlon in the kernel make xconfig (a post on the Caldera list that I didn't cross-post here). So the task at hand now is to upgrade gcc to a version that supports athlon optimizations. It appears that the SxS doesn't have anything listed for updating gcc. So before I download the latest 3.01 gcc, I'm looking for caveats from the bright folks on this list. Should I use 3.01, or another version (or just use the one i have and live with i686 optimizations)? What, other than gcc, should get updated in the process? Should I update glibc, too? As always, your assistance is greatly appreciated, Tim I (like Llama) wouldn't use a 3.x release yet. In theory, 2.95.4 will have Athlon support. Upgrading gcc is painless.. see http://hunley.homeip.net/linux_sources/utils/gcc_notes on another note.. you can compile code that is optimized for athlons without upgrading gcc... simply use the following as both CFLAGS and CXXFLAGS when compiling stuff: -O6 -fomit-frame-pointer -ffast-math -march=i686 -mcpu=i686 -fno-strength-reduce -pipe -malign-functions=4 -funroll-loops -fexpensive-optimizations -fschedule-insns2 -mwide-multiply (you might want to omit the -O6 though as some stuff gets flaky with it) ! -- Douglas J. Hunley ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) - Linux User #174778 Admin: http://hunley.homeip.net/Admin: http://linux.nf/ Brainbench Linux Administration Certified ~~ Now offering Linux admin services for the home user ~~ NON-SMOKING AREA: If we see you smoking, we will assume you are on fire and promptly put you out. ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: M$ gets a free 'get out of jail card' Re: New SxS ?
On Friday 07 September 2001 08:34 am, you wrote: dep wrote: On Thursday 06 September 2001 15:53, Zoki (News) wrote: | Today Net Llama was heard saying: | | snip | | -Wonderful how my tax dollars were used on a case that just got | thrown -away. | | | *** It's ridiculous! Not only are they making a fool of them selves | but also of the American public and the rest of the World | population. Further more they've given M'$oft an incredible push in | the back to go on with what they were doing and certainly even If you want see a real hosing of the taxpayers wait until the government shifts to XP and replaces all of its computers that are over two years old to accommodate it. Not to mention the lease payments. Bush with another busted budget to blame on the dumocrats. This is not Bush's doing, this was started in Clinton's time and we all know that he screwed everything up includeing himself. -- Rick Sivernell Dallas, Texas 75287 972 306-2296 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Caldera Open Linux eWorkStation 3.1 Registered Linux User .~. / v \ /( _ )\ ^ ^ In Linux we trust! ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: M$ gets a free 'get out of jail card' Re: New SxS ?
On Friday 07 September 2001 10:46, Rick Sivernell wrote: | This is not Bush's doing, this was started in Clinton's time and we | all know that he screwed everything up includeing himself. you're right, of course, though i think that the most important thing to remember is that clinton's justice department had msft over the barrel in 1994, when it could have prevented much of what has taken place, but then inexplicably backed off. i have a little piece today on linuxtoday in which i offer the appraisal that this route is far better for linux than the breakup would have been -- a breakup would have maintained an operating system monopoly while (perhaps) making life a little easier for non-microsoft developers of applications software, that's all. i wrote my piece last night and was amused this morning to see that in its analysis piece the washington post came to much the same conclusion, though of course their piece was not written with linux in mind. -- dep one day, you'll wish it was now. your wish has been granted. don't waste it. ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Updating gcc, et all
Douglas J. Hunley wrote: On Friday 07 September 2001 09:01, Tim Wunder babbled: Hi folks, It seems, at least from a response on the kde-linux list I'm on, that gcc 2.95, which eW31 has, does not contain optimization code for athlon. This is claimed to be the cause of my system architecture being i686 despite checking Athlon in the kernel make xconfig (a post on the Caldera list that I didn't cross-post here). So the task at hand now is to upgrade gcc to a version that supports athlon optimizations. It appears that the SxS doesn't have anything listed for updating gcc. So before I download the latest 3.01 gcc, I'm looking for caveats from the bright folks on this list. Should I use 3.01, or another version (or just use the one i have and live with i686 optimizations)? What, other than gcc, should get updated in the process? Should I update glibc, too? As always, your assistance is greatly appreciated, Tim I (like Llama) wouldn't use a 3.x release yet. In theory, 2.95.4 will have Athlon support. Upgrading gcc is painless.. see http://hunley.homeip.net/linux_sources/utils/gcc_notes on another note.. you can compile code that is optimized for athlons without upgrading gcc... simply use the following as both CFLAGS and CXXFLAGS when compiling stuff: -O6 -fomit-frame-pointer -ffast-math -march=i686 -mcpu=i686 -fno-strength-reduce -pipe -malign-functions=4 -funroll-loops -fexpensive-optimizations -fschedule-insns2 -mwide-multiply (you might want to omit the -O6 though as some stuff gets flaky with it) ! On the KDE list, I asked: Why 2.96? Current version seems to be 3.01. Why not that? And got this response from someone other than the guy recommending 2.96: quote If you go to http://www.gnu.org/software/gcc/gcc-2.95/gcc-2.95.3.html you will read The whole suite has been extensively regression tested and package tested. It should bereliable and suitable for widespread use. and If you go to http://www.gnu.org/software/gcc/gcc-3.0/ you will not find any such indorsment. Meaning 2.95.3 is latest stable release In fact I don't even see any mention of 2.96.r. /quote If 2.95.3 is the latest stable release and it's been around since March of this year and Caldera chose not to inlude it in their distro, perhaps it's best that I leave well enough alone and live with i686 optimization. Of course, I'll be trying your CFLAGS and CXXFLAGS recommendation, too. Regards, Tim ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Updating gcc, et all
On Fri, 07 Sep 2001 12:00:37 -0400 Tim Wunder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | On the KDE list, I asked: Why 2.96? Current version seems to be 3.01. Why not | that? For kde2.2beta1, there was a note that gcc3 needed to be used. Have the KDE folk changed this in the kde2.2 release? -- = Roger Oberholtzer E-mail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] OPQ Systems AB WWW: http://www.opq.se Erik Dahlbergsgatan 41-43 Phone: Int + 46 8 314223 115 32 Stockholm Mobile: Int + 46 733 621657 Sweden Fax: Int + 46 8 302602 ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
SuSE Automatic Updates
Folks, Douglas Hunley wrote an update script for Caldera that worked rather well to keep the security updates installed as soon as they were released. Has anyone written an equivalent for SuSE? In Harmony's Way, and In A Chord, Tom :-}) +--+ | Thomas A. Condonemail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | Computer Engineer phone: (360) 315-7609| | Barbershop Bass SingerSailor and Singer of Chanties | | Left Handed and In My Right Mind | +--+ ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Updating gcc, et all
On Friday 07 September 2001 12:02, Roger Oberholtzer babbled: For kde2.2beta1, there was a note that gcc3 needed to be used. Have the KDE folk changed this in the kde2.2 release? are you sure you parsed that right? the release notes and the lists say NOT to use 3.x for 2.2 final.. -- Douglas J. Hunley ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) - Linux User #174778 Admin: http://hunley.homeip.net/Admin: http://linux.nf/ Brainbench Linux Administration Certified ~~ Now offering Linux admin services for the home user ~~ I thought I wanted a career, turns out I just wanted paychecks. ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Best Linux CD burners?
Hi all, I am in the market for a RW CD for my pc and was wondering what burners are most compatible with Linux. My current distro (most often used) is RH 7.0. But within the next few months I plan to add the latest Suse or RH on another partition. Any advice is greatly appreciated. TIA = _ Susan Macchia mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ - Running Linux - because life is too short for reboots... __ Do You Yahoo!? Get email alerts NEW webcam video instant messaging with Yahoo! Messenger http://im.yahoo.com ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Best Linux CD burners?
Susan Macchia wrote: Hi all, I am in the market for a RW CD for my pc and was wondering what burners are most compatible with Linux. My current distro (most often used) is RH 7.0. But within the next few months I plan to add the latest Suse or RH on another partition. Any advice is greatly appreciated. TIA I've heard very good things about Plextor and Yamaha. I've got what now is an old SCSI Yamaha 6416, it's performed admirably under linux. Look for burnproof technology as well. HTH, Tim ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Best Linux CD burners?
Douglas J. Hunley wrote: On Friday 07 September 2001 13:13, Tim Wunder babbled: Look for burnproof technology as well. have you actually gotten Linux software to use the BurnProof technology? I never could... but I didn't need it either, so it never really mattered No. My drive doesn't support it, I got it about 3 or 4 months before it became all the rage. I've got a buddy who swears by it (and Plextor), but he's a winders user. The latest versions of xcdroast, gcombust, and koncd seem to support it. I haven't really run into problems burning without it, but I tend to burn at 4x even though the drive is supposed to support 6x, so I've never really stressed the drive. ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
OT MS Error message Haikus
Subject: FW: Microsloth Error Message Haikus In Japan, they have replaced the impersonal and unhelpful Microsoft Error messages with Haiku poetry messages. Haiku poetry has strict construction rules. Each poem has only three lines, 17 syllables: five syllables in the first line, seven in the second, five in the third. Haikus are used to communicate a timeless message often achieving a wistful, yearning and powerful insight through extreme brevity - the essence of Zen: Your file was so big. It might be very useful. But now it is gone. The Web site you seek Cannot be located, but Countless more exist. Chaos reigns within. Reflect, repent, and reboot. Order shall return. Program aborting: Close all that you have worked on. You ask far too much. Windows NT crashed. I am the Blue Screen of Death. No one hears your screams. Yesterday it worked. Today it is not working. Windows is like that. First snow, then silence. This thousand-dollar screen dies So beautifully. The Tao that is seen Is not the true Tao-until You bring fresh toner. ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
RE: SuSE Automatic Updates
SuSE 7.1 also had this... -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Douglas J. Hunley Sent: Friday, September 07, 2001 11:36 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: SuSE Automatic Updates On Friday 07 September 2001 12:16, Condon Thomas A KPWA babbled: Folks, Douglas Hunley wrote an update script for Caldera that worked rather well to keep the security updates installed as soon as they were released. Has anyone written an equivalent for SuSE? thanks! you can use YaST to keep your system up to date. In fact, SuSE 7.2 even has an 'online update' feature in YaST somewhere.. -- Douglas J. Hunley ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) - Linux User #174778 Admin: http://hunley.homeip.net/Admin: http://linux.nf/ Brainbench Linux Administration Certified ~~ Now offering Linux admin services for the home user ~~ Linux isn't at war. War involves large numbers of people making losing decisions that harm each other in a vain attempt to lose last. Linux is about winning. ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Linux friendly ISP's in the UK
On Friday 07 September 2001 3:38 pm, Gordon McCrae wrote: Anyone out there got details of Linux Friendly ISP's in the UK? I'm returning from my brief (2 year) sojourn in the US and need some details. Take a look at the 'from' address above and you will see that I am using uklinux.net ,take a look at the url in my sig below and you will see that I am also using btinternet.com. How's that for versatility g Also, how are DSL / Cable doing in the UK? I heard that BT had actually done some DSL, but wasn't offering dedicated bandwidth, and that coverage was intermittent. True, BT is not exactly the fastest operator in the world. A couple of the cable TV companies, NTL and Telewest, are now offering high speed connections under the name Blueyonder IIRC, but I don't know how Linux friendly they are and again it does depend on where you live. HTH Pam -- UK Linux Step by Step mirror: http://www.pam.roberts.btinternet.co.uk/sxs/ ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Linux friendly ISP's in the UK
Thanks, I'll have a look. Gordon Pam R wrote: On Friday 07 September 2001 3:38 pm, Gordon McCrae wrote: Anyone out there got details of Linux Friendly ISP's in the UK? I'm returning from my brief (2 year) sojourn in the US and need some details. Take a look at the 'from' address above and you will see that I am using uklinux.net ,take a look at the url in my sig below and you will see that I am also using btinternet.com. How's that for versatility g Also, how are DSL / Cable doing in the UK? I heard that BT had actually done some DSL, but wasn't offering dedicated bandwidth, and that coverage was intermittent. True, BT is not exactly the fastest operator in the world. A couple of the cable TV companies, NTL and Telewest, are now offering high speed connections under the name Blueyonder IIRC, but I don't know how Linux friendly they are and again it does depend on where you live. HTH Pam -- UK Linux Step by Step mirror: http://www.pam.roberts.btinternet.co.uk/sxs/ ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: OT MS Error message Haikus
I love it! Ron - Original Message - From: Bruce Marshall [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, September 07, 2001 1:36 PM Subject: Re: OT MS Error message Haikus On Friday 07 September 2001 13:52 pm, Tim Wunder wrote: Subject: FW: Microsloth Error Message Haikus In Japan, they have replaced the impersonal and unhelpful Microsoft Error messages with Haiku poetry messages. Haiku poetry has strict construction rules. Each poem has only three lines, 17 syllables: five syllables in the first line, seven in the second, five in the third. Haikus are used to communicate a timeless message often achieving a wistful, yearning and powerful insight through extreme brevity - the essence of Zen: -- - - Your file was so big. It might be very useful. But now it is gone. The Web site you seek Cannot be located, but Countless more exist. Chaos reigns within. Reflect, repent, and reboot. Order shall return. Program aborting: Close all that you have worked on. You ask far too much. Windows NT crashed. I am the Blue Screen of Death. No one hears your screams. Yesterday it worked. Today it is not working. Windows is like that. First snow, then silence. This thousand-dollar screen dies So beautifully. The Tao that is seen Is not the true Tao-until You bring fresh toner. And More: Three things are certain: Death, taxes, and lost data. Guess which has occurred. Everything is gone; Your life's work has been destroyed. Squeeze trigger (yes/no)? The code was willing, It considered your request, But the chips were weak. Printer not ready. Could be a fatal error. Have a pen handy? Errors have occurred. We won't tell you where or why. Lazy programmers. Server's poor response. Not quick enough for browser. Timed out, plum blossom. This site has been moved. We'd tell you where, but then we'd have to delete you. wind catches lily, scattering petals to the wind: segmentation fault ABORTED effort: Close all that you have. You ask way too much. Stay the patient course Of little worth is your ire The network is down You step in the stream, but the water has moved on. This page is not here. +--- -+ + Bruce S. Marshall [EMAIL PROTECTED] Bellaire, MI 09/07/01 14:28 + +--- -+ If your computer speaks English it was probably made in Japan. ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: OT MS Error message Haikus
On Friday 07 September 2001 16:28 pm, Ron White wrote: Subject: Re: OT MS Error message Haikus Then all the cat lovers should love this: CAT HAIKU Negotiating No-man's land: carpet alive, Flea season again I need a new toy. tail of black dog keeps good time. pounce! good dog! good dog! The rule for today Touch my tail, I shred your hand New rule tomorrow In deep sleep hear sound cat vomit hairball somewhere will find in morning Cat, fearless hunter leaves 'presents' for me near door next time I'll wear shoes Grace personified, I leap into the window. I meant to do that. Night. Now come night-mice. I chase them 'round on loud feet. You can't see them too? Blur of motion, then -- silence, me, a paper bag. What is so funny? You never feed me. Perhaps I'll sleep on your face. That will sure show you. The mighty hunter Returns with gifts of plump birds -- Your foot just squashed one You must scratch me there! Yes, above my tail! Behold, elevator butt. You're always typing. Well, let's see you ignore my sitting on your hands. My small cardboard box. You cannot see me if I can just hide my head. Terrible battle. I fought for hours. Come and see! What's a 'term paper'? Kitty likes plastic Confuses for litter box Don't leave tarp around Small brave carnivores Kill pine cones and mosquitoes Fear vacuum cleaner Want to trim my claws? Don't even think about it! My yelps will wake dead. I want to be close To you. Can I fit my head inside your armpit? Wanna go outside. Oh, s***! Help! I got outside! Let me back inside! Oh no! Big One has been trapped by newspaper! Cat to the rescue! Humans are so strange. Mine lies still in bed, then screams! My claws aren't that sharp ... Cats meow out of angst Thumbs! If only we had thumbs! We could break so much! Litter box not here You must have moved it again I'll in the sink. The Big Ones snore now Every room is dark and cold Time for Cup Hockey We're almost equals I purr to show I love you Want to smell my butt? -- ++ + Bruce S. Marshall [EMAIL PROTECTED] Bellaire, MI 09/07/01 16:41 + ++ Life is full of little surprises, and you are one of them. ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: OT MS Error message Haikus
On Friday 07 September 2001 16:28 pm, Ron White wrote: Subject: Re: OT MS Error message Haikus And for Dog lovers Dog Haiku I love my master; Thus I perfume myself with This long-rotten squirrel. I lie belly-up In the sunshine, happier than You ever will be Today I sniffed Many dog butts - I celebrate By kissing your face. I sound the alarm! Paperboy - come to kill us all - Look! Look! Look! Look! Look! I sound the alarm! Mailman Fiend - come to kill us all - Look! Look! Look! Look! Look! I sound the alarm! Meter reader - come to kill all - Look! Look! Look! Look! Look! I sound the alarm! Garbage man - come to kill all - Look! Look! Look! Look! Look! I sound the alarm! Neighbor's cat - come to kill all! Look! Look! Look! Look! Look! I lift my leg and Wiz on each bush. Hello, Spot - Sniff this and weep. How do I love thee? The ways are numberless as My hairs on the rug. My human is home! I am so ecstatic I have Made a puddle. I hate my choke chain - Look, world, they strangle me! Ack Ack Ack Ack Ack Ack! Sleeping here, my chin On your foot - no greater bliss - well, Maybe catching cats. Look in my eyes and Deny it. No human could Love you as much I do. Dig under fence - why? Because it's there. Because it's There. Because it's there. I am your best friend, Now, always, and especially When you are eating. You may call them fleas, But they are far more - I call Them a vocation. My owners' mood is Romantic - I lie near their Feet. I blow a big one. -- ++ + Bruce S. Marshall [EMAIL PROTECTED] Bellaire, MI 09/07/01 16:44 + ++ Tough choice in the 90's: upgrade the computer, or buy more beer. ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: tar troubles
On Thursday 06 September 2001 11:58 pm, Kurt Wall dropped these nuggets of information: Tom Wilson wrote: I asked: What is the output of: $ file mail.tar mail.tar: ASCII text, with no line terminators It's not a tar file, then. Here's the output for a tarball: $ file test.tar test.tar: GNU tar archive Thanks. I appreciate the help. Try $ vi -b mail.tar and see what you can see. Kurt The vi -b mail.tar produced the same results as with plain vi. @'s and ^'s. I beginning to think that last time I did this I bonered it some how. sigh Thanks again. -- Tom Wilson Registered Linux user #199331 Live on your knees in conformity or die on your feet for honesty. ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Updating gcc, et all
On Fri, 7 Sep 2001 12:38:46 -0400, Douglas J. Hunley wrote: you really should make the move to 2.95.3... it has some fixes that will be necessary should you later choose to use later versions of other things (glibc 2.2.4 comes to mind from a discussion on LFS lists...) How tough is the move? stayler ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
