Re: OT MSDOS Rescue Needed

2001-09-03 Thread burns

On Sunday 02 September 2001 06:05, Keith Antoine wrote:
 Joel Hammer wrote:
   Have anyone heard of any issues with Linux running AMD processors...
   specifically the Thunderbird? Keith? I believe you have some experience
   in this area?
 
  I believe I am running just such a bird with col 2.4 and no problems.
  Joel

 I missed the original message, but I agree with Joel in that I have been
 running an Athlon 1.2 for 8 weeks in a dual boot situation without any
 problems and a vanilla WS 3.1 install.


Hi Skip.

I'm now up and running after building a new system this weekend. Thanks for 
the inputs, all.

Thunderbird 1400MHz on an SiS 735 chipset (ECS K7S5A) mainboard, 266MHz front 
side bus and 512Mb DDRAM. I did throw in a GeForce 2 video card, but Linux 
balked, so I went back to my trusty TNT2 Ultra 32 AGP card.

I'm running Suse 7.2 Pro and this thing flies! It's hard to concentrate on 
the screen with all this wind in my hair g.

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Re: OT MSDOS Rescue Needed

2001-09-01 Thread burns

Thanks to those who replied.

Here's an update FWIW:

I did a fresh format, a fresh partition and a fresh drive even. In fact I 
laboious emoved, replaced, or reconfigured the entire system component by 
component, with my system in pieces scattered all over the floor. .

By process of elimination, I have  narrowed it down to either a corrupt bios, 
faulty motherbopard, or one of the two cpu's is toats, I suspect a 
combination of the latter two... perhaps not suprising as this was an 
overclocked system - even though I have a fairly sophisticated cooling 
system. Normally the CPUs run consistently between 32-40C. However, it may 
have been the recent summer heat wave 2 weeks @ 100F+) that, in the end, did 
me in. 

Symptoms: 
- GPFs and stack dumps when attempting to load windows, even from a cd boot.

- numerous cpu/apic errors in Linux (although this is not unusual in the 
2.4.* kernel, even with the noapic option in lilo. However the huge number of 
errors indicated that underlying process handling was abnormal).

- lack of stability. The system kept losing ide and pci components and their 
resouce allocations (e.g. my cdrom and NIC)

In the end, I suspect this fault(s) have been building for some time. As 
usual it is never one thing. I have also had a faulty CDROM drive to contend 
with which made diagnosis more difficult.

I have reset all the bios settings back to bare defaults and declocked the 
processors. Linux now works without errors (and will talk to my NIC), 
although Windows still cashes during setup (just goes to show which is the 
most robust underlying OS - if there was any doubt).

I can limp along this way, but I suspect the real answer is to invest in a 
new mainboard, which also means a new cpu as the board is a BX chipset and 
will only take a 466Mhz processor at the most.

Have anyone heard of any issues with Linux running AMD processors... 
specifically the Thunderbird? Keith? I believe you have some experience in 
this area?

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Re: OT MSDOS Rescue Needed

2001-09-01 Thread Joel Hammer

 Have anyone heard of any issues with Linux running AMD processors... 
 specifically the Thunderbird? Keith? I believe you have some experience in 
 this area?
I believe I am running just such a bird with col 2.4 and no problems.
Joel

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Re: OT MSDOS Rescue Needed

2001-09-01 Thread Bruce Marshall

On Saturday 01 September 2001 11:52 am, burns wrote:
 Thanks to those who replied.

 Here's an update FWIW:

 I did a fresh format, a fresh partition and a fresh drive even. In fact I
 laboious emoved, replaced, or reconfigured the entire system component by
 component, with my system in pieces scattered all over the floor. .

 By process of elimination, I have  narrowed it down to either a corrupt
 bios, faulty motherbopard, or one of the two cpu's is toats, I suspect a
 combination of the latter two... perhaps not suprising as this was an
 overclocked system - even though I have a fairly sophisticated cooling
 system. Normally the CPUs run consistently between 32-40C. However, it may
 have been the recent summer heat wave 2 weeks @ 100F+) that, in the end,
 did me in.

 Symptoms:
 - GPFs and stack dumps when attempting to load windows, even from a cd
 boot.

 - numerous cpu/apic errors in Linux (although this is not unusual in the
 2.4.* kernel, even with the noapic option in lilo. However the huge number
 of errors indicated that underlying process handling was abnormal).

 - lack of stability. The system kept losing ide and pci components and
 their resouce allocations (e.g. my cdrom and NIC)

 In the end, I suspect this fault(s) have been building for some time. As
 usual it is never one thing. I have also had a faulty CDROM drive to
 contend with which made diagnosis more difficult.

 I have reset all the bios settings back to bare defaults and declocked the
 processors. Linux now works without errors (and will talk to my NIC),
 although Windows still cashes during setup (just goes to show which is the
 most robust underlying OS - if there was any doubt).

 I can limp along this way, but I suspect the real answer is to invest in a
 new mainboard, which also means a new cpu as the board is a BX chipset and
 will only take a 466Mhz processor at the most.

 Have anyone heard of any issues with Linux running AMD processors...
 specifically the Thunderbird? Keith? I believe you have some experience in
 this area?

I'm running on an Athlon 800 right now  No problems with the install... 
did one last night.

But FYI, my first install was on a K-233  (K5?)  and it had problems with 
APIC and I had to use a parm (even to boot the install diskette) on SuSE 7.2 
of:

noapicnoapm

(also had problems with the pwr mgmt..)

Once I got by that, it installed fine.



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Re: OT MSDOS Rescue Needed

2001-09-01 Thread burns

On August 30, 2001 10:59 pm, Wil McGilvery wrote:
 Sorry this isn't off list, but the client I am using won't reveal your
 address to me 
 I ran a quick check and found a lot of refrences to your error. Is it
 possible to be more specific. 
 If there is any more information, please send to me and I will search it
 out for you. 
  
  
Will, 
Thanks for the response. Your post came detached from the thread. See my 
update in the main thread on this subject. 

It came down to a toasted mainboard and cpu. I am just on my way out to 
spring some do$h for a Thunderbird 1400 and board. sigh

It won't be smp, but it will be a faster (and more stable) system in the end.
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Re: OT MSDOS Rescue Needed

2001-09-01 Thread Lourens Steenkamp

On Sat, 1 Sep 2001 11:52:01 -0400
Hello burns from Lourens:

I am running a 1.2GHz 266MHz FSB T-Bird here and it works like a charm.
I have had no problems with the Asus A7V133 or the AOpen AK73Pro mobos.
I did have issues with a DFI AK75-EC. It would run the standard install
just fine but for the life of me, I could not get it to run an Athlon
optimized kernel (?).

Dying to lay my hands on one of those DDR boards 

HTH
 
[large snip]
  Have anyone heard of any issues with Linux running AMD processors... 
  specifically the Thunderbird? Keith? I believe you have some experience
  in 
  this area?
[end large snip]

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Re: OT MSDOS Rescue Needed

2001-09-01 Thread Lourens Steenkamp

On Sat, 1 Sep 2001 13:26:01 -0400
Hello burns from Lourens:

Drool.

Saw an interesting test the other day at:
http://www.hardocp.com/reviews/cooling/roundup0501/index5.html

Take a look at the temp differences achieved by putting a 7k fan on top of
the boxed AMD cooler unit. (AMD Stock Cooler; Stock Fan - 142ºF; 7K Fan
- 123ºF)
They also have some interesting figures for high performance coolers.

Enjoy.

[large snip]  
  It came down to a toasted mainboard and cpu. I am just on my way out to
  spring some do$h for a Thunderbird 1400 and board. sigh
  
  It won't be smp, but it will be a faster (and more stable) system in
  the end.
[end large snip]

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