Re: [Linux-users] Installing virtual box
On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 4:48 PM, David Merrick merrick...@gmail.com wrote: HI. I am to install Oracle virtual box on windows 7 but the exceution gets stuck 3/4 the way through. Any sugestions? Ummm... this is a linux-users mailing list! ___ Linux-users mailing list Linux-users@lists.canterbury.ac.nz http://lists.canterbury.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: [Linux-users] Chit chat Re: Testing List - please delete
On 11/10/12 10:49, C. Falconer wrote: Roger Searle wrote, On 10/10/2012 11:25 PM: I have a Foscam FI8905W IP Camera on the end of my garage looking across the driveway to the road, transmits to one of the 2 wireless APs in the house. Recordings are handled by Zone Minder on what is primarily our MythTV backend box ... Why Zone minder? I specifically put motion on the not-myth server, purely to avoid potential confusion with v4l and /dev/videoX nodes. Possibly could merge them these days of /dev/dvb/ but can't be bothered. That's sensible putting on a different box but sadly I don't have another one available for that. It is pretty well specced, quad core Phenom, 8GB RAM. Initially I didn't even know if there was linux support for the camera, I saw it demo'd in the neighbourhood and knew that I could at least run it through an XP vm. I knew of ZoneMinder via there being the MythTV plugin, which I've not really looked at. I did ask a question on (this?) list at the time about IP cameras, I don't recall there being any replies. That particular camera was quite easy to get a stream to VLC. It didn't take too long to figure out the slightly different incantations to have it work in ZoneMinder. I've never noticed any issue with it and MythTV which is via /dev/dvb. The main issue I have with the setup itself is that our drive is very long, and it's views from the garage to the road have several trees which means motion detection won't work reliably. This is despite being able to create zones in the view where the trees are to ignore motion triggering the recording. It just means it needs to record 24/7 and needs a suitable (large) amount of storage to retain some weeks of recordings. Cheers, Roger ___ Linux-users mailing list Linux-users@lists.canterbury.ac.nz http://lists.canterbury.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: [Linux-users] Installing virtual box
On Thu, 11 Oct 2012, David Merrick wrote: HI. I am to install Oracle virtual box on windows 7 but the exceution gets stuck 3/4 the way through. Any sugestions? [...] Strange - I have installed, and have been using 4.1.20 on both 32-bit and 64-bit Windows 7 systems without problems - obviously to run Linux systems that are very much needed to make up for the lack of functionality of Windows and the respective applications in some areas (-: Do you have administrator rights? Kind regards, Helmut. ___ Linux-users mailing list Linux-users@lists.canterbury.ac.nz http://lists.canterbury.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: [Linux-users] Installing virtual box
You have to have Virtual box to run Linux on Windows!!! On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 7:43 PM, Nick Rout nick.r...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 4:48 PM, David Merrick merrick...@gmail.com wrote: HI. I am to install Oracle virtual box on windows 7 but the exceution gets stuck 3/4 the way through. Any sugestions? Ummm... this is a linux-users mailing list! ___ Linux-users mailing list Linux-users@lists.canterbury.ac.nz http://lists.canterbury.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/linux-users -- Dave Merrick Daves Web Designs http://www.daveswebdesigns.co.nz/ merrick...@gmail.com Ph 03 3423 121 Cell 027 3089 169 ___ Linux-users mailing list Linux-users@lists.canterbury.ac.nz http://lists.canterbury.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: [Linux-users] Installing virtual box
HI Yes I do have Administrator rights. Even set up a new Admin account to it. On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 9:37 PM, David Merrick merrick...@gmail.com wrote: You have to have Virtual box to run Linux on Windows!!! On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 7:43 PM, Nick Rout nick.r...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 4:48 PM, David Merrick merrick...@gmail.com wrote: HI. I am to install Oracle virtual box on windows 7 but the exceution gets stuck 3/4 the way through. Any sugestions? Ummm... this is a linux-users mailing list! ___ Linux-users mailing list Linux-users@lists.canterbury.ac.nz http://lists.canterbury.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/linux-users -- Dave Merrick Daves Web Designs http://www.daveswebdesigns.co.nz/ merrick...@gmail.com Ph 03 3423 121 Cell 027 3089 169 -- Dave Merrick Daves Web Designs http://www.daveswebdesigns.co.nz/ merrick...@gmail.com Ph 03 3423 121 Cell 027 3089 169 ___ Linux-users mailing list Linux-users@lists.canterbury.ac.nz http://lists.canterbury.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: [Linux-users] Installing virtual box
Virtual box 4.120 and virtual box 4.1.22 On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 6:19 PM, Jonathan Wood jo...@jwservices.co.nz wrote: What version of virtual box are you trying? Mine went through without a problem with win7 and 4.1. Regards, Jonathan Jw Services http://www.jwservices.co.nz/ -Original Message- From: linux-users-boun...@lists.canterbury.ac.nz [mailto:linux-users-boun...@lists.canterbury.ac.nz] On Behalf Of David Merrick Sent: Thursday, 11 October 2012 4:49 p.m. To: Canterbury Linux Users Group Subject: [Linux-users] Installing virtual box HI. I am to install Oracle virtual box on windows 7 but the exceution gets stuck 3/4 the way through. Any sugestions? -- Dave Merrick Daves Web Designs http://www.daveswebdesigns.co.nz/ merrick...@gmail.com Ph 03 3423 121 Cell 027 3089 169 ___ Linux-users mailing list Linux-users@lists.canterbury.ac.nz http://lists.canterbury.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/linux-users ___ Linux-users mailing list Linux-users@lists.canterbury.ac.nz http://lists.canterbury.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/linux-users -- Dave Merrick Daves Web Designs http://www.daveswebdesigns.co.nz/ merrick...@gmail.com Ph 03 3423 121 Cell 027 3089 169 ___ Linux-users mailing list Linux-users@lists.canterbury.ac.nz http://lists.canterbury.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: [Linux-users] Installing virtual box
On 11 October 2012 21:37, David Merrick merrick...@gmail.com wrote: You have to have Virtual box to run Linux on Windows!!! I believe there is a method by which one can install Ubuntu so it uses a huge file in the windows NTFS file system to hold the entire Linux file system. Of course one cannot run both Windows and Linux concurrently. -- Sincerely, Christopher Sawtell ___ Linux-users mailing list Linux-users@lists.canterbury.ac.nz http://lists.canterbury.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: [Linux-users] Installing virtual box
On Thu, 2012-10-11 at 21:37 +1300, David Merrick wrote: You have to have Virtual box to run Windows on Linux!!! FTFY -- Steve Holdoway BSc(Hons) MIITP http://www.greengecko.co.nz MSN: st...@greengecko.co.nz Skype: sholdowa smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature ___ Linux-users mailing list Linux-users@lists.canterbury.ac.nz http://lists.canterbury.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: [Linux-users] WAS Chit chat Re: Testing List - please delete NOW Evolution connection
Maybe this will help; https://live.gnome.org/Evolution/FAQ#Why_is_Evolution_offline_when_my_net_connection_is_working.3F On Thu, 11 Oct 2012, chris wrote: Which is my issue. I am on dial up, and I cannot get Evolution to go on line at all. As you say areal PITA. Also my tux skills are not good enough yet to know what I have to do to get it working. All help gratefully received. Regards Chris ___ Linux-users mailing list Linux-users@lists.canterbury.ac.nz http://lists.canterbury.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/linux-users ___ Linux-users mailing list Linux-users@lists.canterbury.ac.nz http://lists.canterbury.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: [Linux-users] WAS Chit chat Re: Testing List - please delete NOW Evolution connection
On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 11:42 AM, Ross Drummond r...@ashburton.co.nz wrote: On Thu, 11 Oct 2012, chris wrote: Which is my issue. I am on dial up, and I cannot get Evolution to go on line at all. As you say areal PITA. Maybe this will help; https://live.gnome.org/Evolution/FAQ#Why_is_Evolution_offline_when_my_net_connection_is_working.3F It would help, except for the fact that Evolution/GNOME(?) have simply ignored the whole use-case of I do not want Network Manager to manage my network, but I have not uninstalled it. NM is a user-based tool, which is very good if you have to use personal credentials to access the network (i.e. corporate wifi mainly, or most VPNs). However if you want the machine to be accessible on the network when no user is currently logged on, you're completely sunk and have to fall back on to other solutions ... like (debian)/etc/network/interfaces and so on. Their FAQ ends up with The solution is to configure NM to manage your network interface. Useless. All they needed was an option to say Force online. -jim ___ Linux-users mailing list Linux-users@lists.canterbury.ac.nz http://lists.canterbury.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: [Linux-users] Chit chat Re: Testing List - please delete
chris wrote, On 10/11/2012 11:31 AM: yes, how do you get evolution to work on debian 6.05? I'd rather use real Outlook than an open source wannabe clone of outlook. But thats like choosing between drinking vomit or drinking sewage... Is there no other option? -- Craig Falconer ___ Linux-users mailing list Linux-users@lists.canterbury.ac.nz http://lists.canterbury.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: [Linux-users] Installing virtual box
Christopher Sawtell wrote, On 10/11/2012 10:15 PM: Of course one cannot run both Windows and Linux concurrently. Given the hardware requirements of Linux are much lower than windows, any PC built in the last 8 years should be a workable linux server. The only thing wrong with running two computers is that you'll use more power overall. http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=520950008 450 GB of 10k RPM drives and dual CPU and 4 GB ram for $4.50 I have offered servers like this to the list in the past. -- Craig Falconer ___ Linux-users mailing list Linux-users@lists.canterbury.ac.nz http://lists.canterbury.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: [Linux-users] Chit chat Re: Testing List - please delete
On Fri, 2012-10-12 at 13:52 +1300, C. Falconer wrote: chris wrote, On 10/11/2012 11:31 AM: yes, how do you get evolution to work on debian 6.05? I'd rather use real Outlook than an open source wannabe clone of outlook. But thats like choosing between drinking vomit or drinking sewage... Is there no other option? What do you use? You obviously think it's superior... -- Steve Holdoway BSc(Hons) MIITP http://www.greengecko.co.nz MSN: st...@greengecko.co.nz Skype: sholdowa smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature ___ Linux-users mailing list Linux-users@lists.canterbury.ac.nz http://lists.canterbury.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: [Linux-users] Chit chat Re: Testing List - please delete
Steve Holdoway wrote, On 10/12/2012 02:02 PM: On Fri, 2012-10-12 at 13:52 +1300, C. Falconer wrote: chris wrote, On 10/11/2012 11:31 AM: yes, how do you get evolution to work on debian 6.05? I'd rather use real Outlook than an open source wannabe clone of outlook. But thats like choosing between drinking vomit or drinking sewage... Is there no other option? What do you use? You obviously think it's superior... Personally I use thunderbird - mostly because it works well enough. I don't have an exchange server so that's no value to me. -- Craig Falconer ___ Linux-users mailing list Linux-users@lists.canterbury.ac.nz http://lists.canterbury.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: [Linux-users] Chit chat Re: Testing List - please delete
On 12/10/12 13:52, C. Falconer wrote: I'd rather use real Outlook than an open source wannabe clone of outlook. But thats like choosing between drinking vomit or drinking sewage... Is there no other option? Every mail client sucks. Vik :v) ___ Linux-users mailing list Linux-users@lists.canterbury.ac.nz http://lists.canterbury.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: [Linux-users] WAS Chit chat Re: Testing List - please delete NOW Evolution connection
On Fri, 2012-10-12 at 11:42 +1300, Ross Drummond wrote: Maybe this will help; https://live.gnome.org/Evolution/FAQ#Why_is_Evolution_offline_when_my_net_connection_is_working.3F On Thu, 11 Oct 2012, chris wrote: Which is my issue. I am on dial up, and I cannot get Evolution to go on line at all. As you say areal PITA. Also my tux skills are not good enough yet to know what I have to do to get it working. All help gratefully received. Regards Chris Thank you Ross, will follow that up. Many thanks Chris ___ Linux-users mailing list Linux-users@lists.canterbury.ac.nz http://lists.canterbury.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: [Linux-users] WAS Chit chat Re: Testing List - please delete NOW Evolution connection
On Fri, 2012-10-12 at 11:57 +1300, Jim Cheetham wrote: On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 11:42 AM, Ross Drummond r...@ashburton.co.nz wrote: On Thu, 11 Oct 2012, chris wrote: Which is my issue. I am on dial up, and I cannot get Evolution to go on line at all. As you say areal PITA. Maybe this will help; https://live.gnome.org/Evolution/FAQ#Why_is_Evolution_offline_when_my_net_connection_is_working.3F It would help, except for the fact that Evolution/GNOME(?) have simply ignored the whole use-case of I do not want Network Manager to manage my network, but I have not uninstalled it. NM is a user-based tool, which is very good if you have to use personal credentials to access the network (i.e. corporate wifi mainly, or most VPNs). However if you want the machine to be accessible on the network when no user is currently logged on, you're completely sunk and have to fall back on to other solutions ... like (debian)/etc/network/interfaces and so on. Their FAQ ends up with The solution is to configure NM to manage your network interface. Useless. All they needed was an option to say Force online. -jim ___ Linux-users mailing list Linux-users@lists.canterbury.ac.nz http://lists.canterbury.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/linux-users so, how do you do that? please? Chris ___ Linux-users mailing list Linux-users@lists.canterbury.ac.nz http://lists.canterbury.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: [Linux-users] Chit chat Re: Testing List - please delete
On Fri, 2012-10-12 at 13:52 +1300, C. Falconer wrote: chris wrote, On 10/11/2012 11:31 AM: yes, how do you get evolution to work on debian 6.05? I'd rather use real Outlook than an open source wannabe clone of outlook. But thats like choosing between drinking vomit or drinking sewage... Is there no other option? I am looking through the repo's, and possibly claws mail may do the job. have yet to install it and try. Thanks Craig ___ Linux-users mailing list Linux-users@lists.canterbury.ac.nz http://lists.canterbury.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: [Linux-users] Chit chat Re: Testing List - please delete
On Fri, 2012-10-12 at 14:42 +1300, chris wrote: On Fri, 2012-10-12 at 13:52 +1300, C. Falconer wrote: chris wrote, On 10/11/2012 11:31 AM: yes, how do you get evolution to work on debian 6.05? I'd rather use real Outlook than an open source wannabe clone of outlook. But thats like choosing between drinking vomit or drinking sewage... Is there no other option? I am looking through the repo's, and possibly claws mail may do the job. have yet to install it and try. Thanks Craig Claws is horrible... -- Steve Holdoway BSc(Hons) MIITP http://www.greengecko.co.nz MSN: st...@greengecko.co.nz Skype: sholdowa smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature ___ Linux-users mailing list Linux-users@lists.canterbury.ac.nz http://lists.canterbury.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: [Linux-users] Chit chat Re: Testing List - please delete
On Fri, 2012-10-12 at 14:49 +1300, Steve Holdoway wrote: On Fri, 2012-10-12 at 14:42 +1300, chris wrote: On Fri, 2012-10-12 at 13:52 +1300, C. Falconer wrote: chris wrote, On 10/11/2012 11:31 AM: yes, how do you get evolution to work on debian 6.05? I'd rather use real Outlook than an open source wannabe clone of outlook. But thats like choosing between drinking vomit or drinking sewage... Is there no other option? I am looking through the repo's, and possibly claws mail may do the job. have yet to install it and try. Thanks Craig Claws is horrible... ___ Linux-users mailing list Linux-users@lists.canterbury.ac.nz http://lists.canterbury.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Suggestions Please? Sylphed? Balsa? open to try anything (within limits). :-) ___ Linux-users mailing list Linux-users@lists.canterbury.ac.nz http://lists.canterbury.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: [Linux-users] Chit chat Re: Testing List - please delete
On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 3:43 PM, Philip Charles phil...@copyleft.co.nzwrote: I have not found anything better (so far) than kmail. Its running on gnome 3. Phil. I used to like kmail too except that it did not like HTML mail and with so many emails received in HTML I decided to change to Thunderbird. I have 2 questions about kmail:- 1/ Does it now allow HTML? 2/ If installed on Gnome does it need lots of KDE stuff as well? -- Robert Fisher ___ Linux-users mailing list Linux-users@lists.canterbury.ac.nz http://lists.canterbury.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: [Linux-users] Chit chat Re: Testing List - please delete
On Fri, 12 Oct 2012, Robert Fisher wrote: On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 3:43 PM, Philip Charles phil...@copyleft.co.nzwrote: I have not found anything better (so far) than kmail. Its running on gnome 3. Phil. I used to like kmail too except that it did not like HTML mail and with so many emails received in HTML I decided to change to Thunderbird. I have 2 questions about kmail:- 1/ Does it now allow HTML? Outgoing messages are plain text. Three clicks and incoming HTML is displayed in all its glory (yuckiness?). 2/ If installed on Gnome does it need lots of KDE stuff as well? Yes. Make certain that you have lots of room in /usr. Phil. -- Philip Charles; 39a Paterson Street, Abbotsford, Dunedin, New Zealand +64 3 488 2818Fax +64 3 488 2875Mobile 027 663 4453 phil...@copyleft.co.nz - personal.i...@copyleft.co.nz - business ___ Linux-users mailing list Linux-users@lists.canterbury.ac.nz http://lists.canterbury.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: [Linux-users] Chit chat Re: Testing List - please delete
On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 3:25 PM, chris che...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, 2012-10-12 at 14:49 +1300, Steve Holdoway wrote: On Fri, 2012-10-12 at 14:42 +1300, chris wrote: On Fri, 2012-10-12 at 13:52 +1300, C. Falconer wrote: chris wrote, On 10/11/2012 11:31 AM: yes, how do you get evolution to work on debian 6.05? I'd rather use real Outlook than an open source wannabe clone of outlook. But thats like choosing between drinking vomit or drinking sewage... Is there no other option? I am looking through the repo's, and possibly claws mail may do the job. have yet to install it and try. Thanks Craig Claws is horrible... ___ Linux-users mailing list Linux-users@lists.canterbury.ac.nz http://lists.canterbury.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Suggestions Please? Sylphed? Balsa? open to try anything (within limits). :-) As long as you are accessing your email via imap (you are aren't you?) you can try them all and see what you like. ___ Linux-users mailing list Linux-users@lists.canterbury.ac.nz http://lists.canterbury.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: [Linux-users] Chit chat Re: Testing List - please delete
On Fri, 2012-10-12 at 17:34 +1300, Nick Rout wrote: snip open to try anything (within limits). :-) As long as you are accessing your email via imap (you are aren't you?) you can try them all and see what you like. No, a dial up conection using pop. :-( ___ Linux-users mailing list Linux-users@lists.canterbury.ac.nz http://lists.canterbury.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: [Linux-users] Chit chat Re: Testing List - please delete
On Fri, 2012-10-12 at 17:50 +1300, chris wrote: On Fri, 2012-10-12 at 17:34 +1300, Nick Rout wrote: snip open to try anything (within limits). :-) As long as you are accessing your email via imap (you are aren't you?) you can try them all and see what you like. No, a dial up conection using pop. :-( gmail accepts imap... -- Steve Holdoway BSc(Hons) MIITP http://www.greengecko.co.nz MSN: st...@greengecko.co.nz Skype: sholdowa smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature ___ Linux-users mailing list Linux-users@lists.canterbury.ac.nz http://lists.canterbury.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: [Linux-users] Installing virtual box
Installed ubuntu desktop on windows 7. Thanks for you help On Fri, Oct 12, 201Instaledd2 at 2:01 PM, C. Falconer cfalco...@totalteam.co.nz wrote: Christopher Sawtell wrote, On 10/11/2012 10:15 PM: Of course one cannot run both Windows and Linux concurrently. Given the hardware requirements of Linux are much lower than windows, any PC built in the last 8 years should be a workable linux server. The only thing wrong with running two computers is that you'll use more power overall. http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=520950008 450 GB of 10k RPM drives and dual CPU and 4 GB ram for $4.50 I have offered servers like this to the list in the past. -- Craig Falconer ___ Linux-users mailing list Linux-users@lists.canterbury.ac.nz http://lists.canterbury.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/linux-users -- Dave Merrick Daves Web Designs http://www.daveswebdesigns.co.nz/ merrick...@gmail.com Ph 03 3423 121 Cell 027 3089 169 ___ Linux-users mailing list Linux-users@lists.canterbury.ac.nz http://lists.canterbury.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: [Linux-users] Chit chat Re: Testing List - please delete
On Fri 12 Oct 2012 14:19:57 NZDT +1300, Vik Olliver wrote: Every mail client sucks. Ohhh boy, you can say THAT one again a hundred times... Volker -- Volker Kuhlmann http://volker.dnsalias.net/ Please do not CC list postings to me. ___ Linux-users mailing list Linux-users@lists.canterbury.ac.nz http://lists.canterbury.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: [Linux-users] Chit chat Re: Testing List - please delete
On Fri 12 Oct 2012 16:31:16 NZDT +1300, Robert Fisher wrote: I have 2 questions about kmail:- 1/ Does it now allow HTML? Now was about 10 years ago? Not displaying all that html crapola by default works well. If you need to see it, click on the html part of the email, and it'll ask you click here if you're sure you want to take the risk. As for sending html, dunno, who cares. But it has done that too for donkeys years. 2/ If installed on Gnome does it need lots of KDE stuff as well? Are you serious? What exactly is your problem here? Shall we pass a hat around so you can buy yourself a 10GB hard disk extension from Molten Media? Volker -- Volker Kuhlmann http://volker.dnsalias.net/ Please do not CC list postings to me. ___ Linux-users mailing list Linux-users@lists.canterbury.ac.nz http://lists.canterbury.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
