Re: [Linux-users] Bash Haiku...

2014-09-25 Thread Chris Hellyar
yeah ,but you’d have to say it’s got a nicer ring to it than heartbleed…


On 25/09/2014, at 5:48 pm, Douglas Royds douglas.ro...@taitradio.com wrote:

 Oh no, it has a click-bait name already: Shellshock
 
 On 25 September 2014 17:00, Steve Holdoway st...@greengecko.co.nz wrote:
 So bash is shellshocked
 hey you apache users
 get it patched right now
 
 Unfortunately those devs who think they can make sites production ready
 through dashboards like cPanel and Plesk ( not singling them out, just
 using common ones as examples! ) can easily set stuff up with cgi
 without knowing.
 
 Hardcone nginx / fastcgi junkies on the command line shouldn't really be
 affected. I just wrote a script to go round and update my clients as the
 press had put the wind up a few of them.

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Re: [Linux-users] Bash Haiku...

2014-09-25 Thread Steve Holdoway
On Thu, 2014-09-25 at 21:01 +1200, Chris Hellyar wrote:

 Have you every had a server hand-grenades by cron-apt/yum-cron?I got 
 bitten a few years ago using a home-brew auto-apt update which installed a 
 breaking regression and have used a cron job that apt-get update  apt-get 
 -s upgrade  mailx instead now…  
 
 Cheers, Chris H.
 

Yes, I have. Percona ( my standard build throws larrys MySQL out in
preference to this ) is not very good with it's repo scripts... in fact
with the latest update I have to manually update the repo definition for
it to find the source at all for CentOS 6. They have a nasty habit of
not restarting the rdbms after update.

Monitoring software lets me know sharpish though!

Nothing worse than that, and for those who don't want higher levels of
maintenance this is ( my perception of ) the lowest risk for them.

Maybe I should revert to the standard distro version, but upping to
version 5.6 has so much going for it.

Steve

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[Linux-users] Bash Haiku...

2014-09-24 Thread Chris Hellyar

Thinking topical,
It consumed most of the day
as a precaution

An exploit is found
Bash, CGI scripting flaw
new patches employed

If you host on line
your version of bash do check
The repos refreshed


Fin. :-)

For those who have no idea what I'm on about:

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2014/09/24/bash_shell_vuln/

There are some great headlines doing the rounds..  This one takes the 
cake I think:


http://www.wired.com/2014/09/internet-braces-crazy-shellshock-worm/

(What worm?  Wired should know better!)

http://www.nbcnews.com/tech/security/new-bash-bug-could-pose-bigger-threat-heartbleed-n211006

http://www.smh.com.au/it-pro/security-it/shell-shock-bash-bug-labelled-largest-ever-to-hit-the-internet-20140925-10ltx1.html

Great stuff...

Considering the major attack vector would be bash CGI scripts which 
anyone with a brain stopped using about 10 years ago I'm picking someone 
got a bit excited and then the other news media got hold of it.


Anyway, Debian and RH have both updated their repos... Illuminos, 
SmartOS and Solaris appear not to be caught up in it due to compile-time 
options for bash, and no-one who's got any sense uses OS X to host 
something on the public Internet anyway.  I think that covers 99% of the 
*ix hosting these days?




On 25/09/14 16:01, Chris Hellyar wrote:

On servers remote
in Datacenters, lights out.
Debian Makes sense.

On Desktops deployed
Surfing the great unknown
Ubuntu's at home.

For uptime you care
five nines the contract denotes
roll out Solaris.

The data is large
complex structures, indexes worse
informix knows best

as tight as a drum
in security it shines
lock down, BSD

Slow day.




On 25/09/14 13:42, Derek Smithies wrote:

Hi,
  but it is so true
  for all who just want to do
  you go  ubuntu

Derek.
On 25/09/14 13:37, Douglas Royds wrote:

Old duffers maintain
that Debian is the source,
the One True Distro

On 24 September 2014 22:21, Chris Hellyar ch...@trash.co.nz wrote:

Back to Debian
for stability I crave
farewell, Ubuntu.

(made the shift with my last rebuild, happy camper now..)


On 24/09/2014, at 9:55 pm, Nick Rout nick.r...@gmail.com wrote:

On Wed, Sep 24, 2014 at 7:40 PM, David Lowe 
da...@thistledown.co.nz wrote:

On 24/09/2014 6:06 pm, Nick Rout nick.r...@gmail.com wrote:


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Re: [Linux-users] Bash Haiku...

2014-09-24 Thread Steve Holdoway
So bash is shellshocked
hey you apache users
get it patched right now

Unfortunately those devs who think they can make sites production ready
through dashboards like cPanel and Plesk ( not singling them out, just
using common ones as examples! ) can easily set stuff up with cgi
without knowing.

Hardcone nginx / fastcgi junkies on the command line shouldn't really be
affected. I just wrote a script to go round and update my clients as the
press had put the wind up a few of them.

TBH for the hands-off ones I install yum-cron / cron-apt so it would
have been fixed by tomorrow automagically anyway... 

Steve

On Thu, 2014-09-25 at 16:39 +1200, Chris Hellyar wrote:
 Thinking topical,
 It consumed most of the day
 as a precaution
 
 An exploit is found
 Bash, CGI scripting flaw
 new patches employed
 
 If you host on line
 your version of bash do check
 The repos refreshed
 
 
 Fin. :-)
 
 For those who have no idea what I'm on about:
 
 http://www.theregister.co.uk/2014/09/24/bash_shell_vuln/
 
 There are some great headlines doing the rounds..  This one takes the 
 cake I think:
 
 http://www.wired.com/2014/09/internet-braces-crazy-shellshock-worm/
 
 (What worm?  Wired should know better!)
 
 http://www.nbcnews.com/tech/security/new-bash-bug-could-pose-bigger-threat-heartbleed-n211006
 
 http://www.smh.com.au/it-pro/security-it/shell-shock-bash-bug-labelled-largest-ever-to-hit-the-internet-20140925-10ltx1.html
 
 Great stuff...
 
 Considering the major attack vector would be bash CGI scripts which 
 anyone with a brain stopped using about 10 years ago I'm picking someone 
 got a bit excited and then the other news media got hold of it.
 
 Anyway, Debian and RH have both updated their repos... Illuminos, 
 SmartOS and Solaris appear not to be caught up in it due to compile-time 
 options for bash, and no-one who's got any sense uses OS X to host 
 something on the public Internet anyway.  I think that covers 99% of the 
 *ix hosting these days?
 
 
 
 On 25/09/14 16:01, Chris Hellyar wrote:
  On servers remote
  in Datacenters, lights out.
  Debian Makes sense.
 
  On Desktops deployed
  Surfing the great unknown
  Ubuntu's at home.
 
  For uptime you care
  five nines the contract denotes
  roll out Solaris.
 
  The data is large
  complex structures, indexes worse
  informix knows best
 
  as tight as a drum
  in security it shines
  lock down, BSD
 
  Slow day.
 
 
 
 
  On 25/09/14 13:42, Derek Smithies wrote:
  Hi,
but it is so true
for all who just want to do
you go  ubuntu
 
  Derek.
  On 25/09/14 13:37, Douglas Royds wrote:
  Old duffers maintain
  that Debian is the source,
  the One True Distro
 
  On 24 September 2014 22:21, Chris Hellyar ch...@trash.co.nz wrote:
  Back to Debian
  for stability I crave
  farewell, Ubuntu.
 
  (made the shift with my last rebuild, happy camper now..)
 
 
  On 24/09/2014, at 9:55 pm, Nick Rout nick.r...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  On Wed, Sep 24, 2014 at 7:40 PM, David Lowe 
  da...@thistledown.co.nz wrote:
  On 24/09/2014 6:06 pm, Nick Rout nick.r...@gmail.com wrote:
 
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Re: [Linux-users] Bash Haiku...

2014-09-24 Thread Douglas Royds
Oh no, it has a click-bait name already: Shellshock

On 25 September 2014 17:00, Steve Holdoway st...@greengecko.co.nz wrote:
 So bash is shellshocked
 hey you apache users
 get it patched right now

 Unfortunately those devs who think they can make sites production ready
 through dashboards like cPanel and Plesk ( not singling them out, just
 using common ones as examples! ) can easily set stuff up with cgi
 without knowing.

 Hardcone nginx / fastcgi junkies on the command line shouldn't really be
 affected. I just wrote a script to go round and update my clients as the
 press had put the wind up a few of them.

 TBH for the hands-off ones I install yum-cron / cron-apt so it would
 have been fixed by tomorrow automagically anyway...

 Steve

 On Thu, 2014-09-25 at 16:39 +1200, Chris Hellyar wrote:
 Thinking topical,
 It consumed most of the day
 as a precaution

 An exploit is found
 Bash, CGI scripting flaw
 new patches employed

 If you host on line
 your version of bash do check
 The repos refreshed


 Fin. :-)

 For those who have no idea what I'm on about:

 http://www.theregister.co.uk/2014/09/24/bash_shell_vuln/

 There are some great headlines doing the rounds..  This one takes the
 cake I think:

 http://www.wired.com/2014/09/internet-braces-crazy-shellshock-worm/

 (What worm?  Wired should know better!)

 http://www.nbcnews.com/tech/security/new-bash-bug-could-pose-bigger-threat-heartbleed-n211006

 http://www.smh.com.au/it-pro/security-it/shell-shock-bash-bug-labelled-largest-ever-to-hit-the-internet-20140925-10ltx1.html

 Great stuff...

 Considering the major attack vector would be bash CGI scripts which
 anyone with a brain stopped using about 10 years ago I'm picking someone
 got a bit excited and then the other news media got hold of it.

 Anyway, Debian and RH have both updated their repos... Illuminos,
 SmartOS and Solaris appear not to be caught up in it due to compile-time
 options for bash, and no-one who's got any sense uses OS X to host
 something on the public Internet anyway.  I think that covers 99% of the
 *ix hosting these days?



 On 25/09/14 16:01, Chris Hellyar wrote:
  On servers remote
  in Datacenters, lights out.
  Debian Makes sense.
 
  On Desktops deployed
  Surfing the great unknown
  Ubuntu's at home.
 
  For uptime you care
  five nines the contract denotes
  roll out Solaris.
 
  The data is large
  complex structures, indexes worse
  informix knows best
 
  as tight as a drum
  in security it shines
  lock down, BSD
 
  Slow day.
 
 
 
 
  On 25/09/14 13:42, Derek Smithies wrote:
  Hi,
but it is so true
for all who just want to do
you go  ubuntu
 
  Derek.
  On 25/09/14 13:37, Douglas Royds wrote:
  Old duffers maintain
  that Debian is the source,
  the One True Distro
 
  On 24 September 2014 22:21, Chris Hellyar ch...@trash.co.nz wrote:
  Back to Debian
  for stability I crave
  farewell, Ubuntu.
 
  (made the shift with my last rebuild, happy camper now..)
 
 
  On 24/09/2014, at 9:55 pm, Nick Rout nick.r...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  On Wed, Sep 24, 2014 at 7:40 PM, David Lowe
  da...@thistledown.co.nz wrote:
  On 24/09/2014 6:06 pm, Nick Rout nick.r...@gmail.com wrote:
 
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