Re: [Linux-users] Time recording software...

2014-06-10 Thread Davin Pearson
Why not use Emacs for this.  Emacs is free and open source.

I have written a file called d-time.el that operates a countdown timer
for telling you when something needs to be done.


On 29 May 2014 20:37, Steve Holdoway st...@greengecko.co.nz wrote:

 Does anyone have any recommendations for a decent time recording
 software - open source of course - that I can use to replace the old
 exercise book approach???

 Cheers,

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Re: [Linux-users] Time recording software...

2014-06-10 Thread Steve Holdoway
Eeeuw (:

I am using kimai now thanks. http://www.kimai.org/

Seems to be working OK so far, although not perfect.

Cheers,

Steve

On Tue, 2014-06-10 at 23:53 +, Davin Pearson wrote:
 Why not use Emacs for this.  Emacs is free and open source.
 
 
 I have written a file called d-time.el that operates a countdown
 timer 
 
 for telling you when something needs to be done.
 
 
 
 On 29 May 2014 20:37, Steve Holdoway st...@greengecko.co.nz wrote:
 Does anyone have any recommendations for a decent time
 recording
 software - open source of course - that I can use to replace
 the old
 exercise book approach???
 
 Cheers,
 
 Steve
 
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Re: [Linux-users] Time recording software...

2014-06-10 Thread Chris Hellyar

'Urro,

In a total co-incidence of sorts as I'm currently self-unemployed and 
needed a time collection tool as well. :-)


I installed a copy of Kimai on a cloud box and have found it's excellent 
for tracking time against customers/projects/tasks..


I'm generating manual invoices anyway, so didn't need any of the 
budget/rate/invoicing stuff but it appears to work as advertised as well.


Cheers, Chris H.


On 11/06/14 11:53, Davin Pearson wrote:

Why not use Emacs for this.  Emacs is free and open source.

I have written a file called d-time.el that operates a countdown timer
for telling you when something needs to be done.


On 29 May 2014 20:37, Steve Holdoway st...@greengecko.co.nz 
mailto:st...@greengecko.co.nz wrote:


Does anyone have any recommendations for a decent time recording
software - open source of course - that I can use to replace the old
exercise book approach???

Cheers,

Steve

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Re: [Linux-users] Time recording software...

2014-05-29 Thread Slosh
On Fri, May 30, 2014 at 08:37:26AM +1200, Steve Holdoway wrote:
 Does anyone have any recommendations for a decent time recording
 software - open source of course - that I can use to replace the old
 exercise book approach???

I use Hamster http://projecthamster.wordpress.com/ It's in the Debian
repos as hamster-applet.

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Re: [Linux-users] Time recording software...

2014-05-29 Thread C. Falconer

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Slosh wrote, On 30/05/14 09:12:
 On Fri, May 30, 2014 at 08:37:26AM +1200, Steve Holdoway wrote:
 Does anyone have any recommendations for a decent time recording
 software - open source of course - that I can use to replace the old
 exercise book approach???

 I use Hamster http://projecthamster.wordpress.com/ It's in the Debian
 repos as hamster-applet.


I second hamster.

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Re: [Linux-users] Time recording software...

2014-05-29 Thread Steve Holdoway
Bah, requires gtk3, and that ain't going to run on CentOS 6 ):


On Fri, 2014-05-30 at 10:40 +1200, C. Falconer wrote:
 
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 Slosh wrote, On 30/05/14 09:12:
  On Fri, May 30, 2014 at 08:37:26AM +1200, Steve Holdoway wrote:
  Does anyone have any recommendations for a decent time recording
  software - open source of course - that I can use to replace the
 old
  exercise book approach???
 
  I use Hamster http://projecthamster.wordpress.com/ It's in the
 Debian
  repos as hamster-applet.
 
 
 I second hamster.
 
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Re: [Linux-users] Time recording software...

2014-05-29 Thread Steve Holdoway
On Fri, 2014-05-30 at 12:25 +1200, Volker Kuhlmann wrote:
 On Fri 30 May 2014 10:50:47 NZST +1200, Steve Holdoway wrote:
 
  Bah, requires gtk3, and that ain't going to run on CentOS 6 ):
 
 Wt?!???
 Why not? gtk3 is hardly new. It's FOSS, and should just be a compiler
 away.
 
 Volker
 
Even more specifically it requires v. 3.10 or higher, and that's not
going to happen on my work machines.

I'm looking at http://www.kimai.org/ ... requirements PHP 5.2 or higher,
Mysql, web server. Nothing even remotely bleeding edge there.

Steve

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Re: [Linux-users] Time recording software...

2014-05-29 Thread Volker Kuhlmann
On Fri 30 May 2014 12:36:04 NZST +1200, Steve Holdoway wrote:

 Even more specifically it requires v. 3.10 or higher, and that's not
 going to happen on my work machines.

I'm curious as to why. It's an application you use on your desktop. Or
in any case, you'd be the only one using it so access restrictions
should be easy.

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Re: [Linux-users] Time recording software...

2014-05-29 Thread Steve Holdoway
On Fri, 2014-05-30 at 13:32 +1200, Volker Kuhlmann wrote:
 On Fri 30 May 2014 12:36:04 NZST +1200, Steve Holdoway wrote:
 
  Even more specifically it requires v. 3.10 or higher, and that's not
  going to happen on my work machines.
 
 I'm curious as to why. It's an application you use on your desktop. Or
 in any case, you'd be the only one using it so access restrictions
 should be easy.
 
 Volker
 
Because my workstation is exactly that, and is built with a close
approximation of the same packages to the servers I manage. Sure it's
got a GUI - the standard CentOS GUI - but it also runs the same versions
of MySQL, nginx, PHP, Redis... as the servers I support. 

IMO bleeding edge has no place in the production environment.


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Re: [Linux-users] Time recording software...

2014-05-29 Thread Steve Holdoway
Doesn't look very current any more unfortunately - certainly seemed to
be the best fit.

On Fri, 2014-05-30 at 09:23 +1200, Jim Cheetham wrote:
 Online, http://tracklr.com/ is developed  run by NZ Chch people. When
 I cared about billing/time tracking, I used it successfully.
 
 -jim
 
 On 30 May 2014 08:37, Steve Holdoway st...@greengecko.co.nz wrote:
 Does anyone have any recommendations for a decent time
 recording
 software - open source of course - that I can use to replace
 the old
 exercise book approach???
 
 Cheers,
 
 Steve
 
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Re: [Linux-users] Time recording software...

2014-05-29 Thread Volker Kuhlmann
On Fri 30 May 2014 13:44:26 NZST +1200, Steve Holdoway wrote:

 Because my workstation is exactly that, and is built with a close
 approximation of the same packages to the servers I manage.

OK. Other ways to achieve that, this is one.

 Sure it's
 got a GUI - the standard CentOS GUI - but it also runs the same versions
 of MySQL, nginx, PHP, Redis... as the servers I support.

The software in question required gtk3, ao I assume it's a desktop
application. How does installing a gtk3 library(!) on your desktop, for
the exclusive use of one desktop application, affect your mysql, php,
nginx, etc.? So far, your no-gtk3-on-my-desktop rule seems arbitrary and
nonsensical, so I'm interesting in your resoning (which so far I fail to
follow).

 IMO bleeding edge has no place in the production environment.

That may be so, but your desktop is not a production environment. If you
need a proper staging server, install one. Virtualbox is good. Running a
stripped-down server as your desktop will give you headaches, as you're
noticing.

Volker

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Re: [Linux-users] Time recording software...

2014-05-29 Thread Steve Holdoway
On Fri, 2014-05-30 at 14:55 +1200, Volker Kuhlmann wrote:
 On Fri 30 May 2014 13:44:26 NZST +1200, Steve Holdoway wrote:
 
  Because my workstation is exactly that, and is built with a close
  approximation of the same packages to the servers I manage.
 
 OK. Other ways to achieve that, this is one.
 
  Sure it's
  got a GUI - the standard CentOS GUI - but it also runs the same versions
  of MySQL, nginx, PHP, Redis... as the servers I support.
 
 The software in question required gtk3, ao I assume it's a desktop
 application. How does installing a gtk3 library(!) on your desktop, for
 the exclusive use of one desktop application, affect your mysql, php,
 nginx, etc.? So far, your no-gtk3-on-my-desktop rule seems arbitrary and
 nonsensical, so I'm interesting in your resoning (which so far I fail to
 follow).
 
  IMO bleeding edge has no place in the production environment.
 
 That may be so, but your desktop is not a production environment. If you
 need a proper staging server, install one. Virtualbox is good. Running a
 stripped-down server as your desktop will give you headaches, as you're
 noticing.
 
 Volker
 
My desktop is *MY* window to my and my clients production environments.
As such I treat it with the same level of care as the production servers
themselves. Anything that could possibly compromise that ( like
installing software from non-mainstream repos ) is an unacceptable risk.

This workstation may be limited when it comes to ( for example
multimedia ) functionality, but it does absolutely everything I require
to function as a business, well and fast. And I have a radio.

I run proper KVM if I want virtualisation ( and yes, I happily use them
in production as well as development ), on multiple local and remote
servers... none of Larry's software here thankyou very much ( and before
you ask, I use Percona MySQL ).

I have stated the reasons why I consider adding bleeding edge software
to that to be a bad idea. Unlike you, this is my business, so my
assessment of the risks involved will necessarily be different... all
risks are subjective, so your and my view will always differ.

One thing that a career in the IT industry has taught me is that if
someone requires the latest and greatest version of something ( or if
the documentation is complete crap ), then treat it as alpha software at
best until proved otherwise.

If I can find a time management solution that I consider safe, and even
better if I can just bung it on one of my servers and have it
automagically incorporated into my backup systems, then for me that's
the best solution.

Steve



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Re: [Linux-users] Time recording software...

2014-05-29 Thread Volker Kuhlmann
 One thing that a career in the IT industry has taught me is that if
 someone requires the latest and greatest version of something ( or if
 the documentation is complete crap ), then treat it as alpha software at
 best until proved otherwise.

Agreed. We differ on whether installing gtk3 interferes with your
desktop. I assume it doesn't until tested and found otherwise. Package
managers and new user IDs are for testing with back-out option at no
risk. I could think of several other options. Or keep looking :-)

Volker

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