[pfSense] pfSense hardware with comersial support.

2014-08-28 Thread Ulrik Lunddahl
Hi Everyone!

Is the Netgate APU2/APU4 and pfSense store VK-T40E both based on the APU from 
PC Engines ?

If yes:

Is there a difference in the software (firmware image)
Is there a difference in the bundled support.

I would appreciate if this thread would NOT turn into a discussion about 
product pricing, my reason for asking this question is because I would like to 
see if this units fits into some of my customers support requirements. 
Customers who have been unable to benefit from pfSense because of missing 
commercial support until now.



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[pfSense] openbgpd No Buffer Space Available

2014-08-28 Thread Mark Relf

Morning all,

I received the following messages in routing.log today 


Aug 28 06:03:38 4slgbmernfw01 bgpd[18303]: neighbor 192.168.55.5 (AWS-DC MER 
Peer): sending notification: HoldTimer expired, unknown subcode 0

Aug 28 06:03:38 4slgbmernfw01 bgpd[18303]: neighbor 192.168.55.5 (AWS-DC MER 
Peer): state change Established - Idle, reason: HoldTimer expired

Aug 28 06:04:08 4slgbmernfw01 bgpd[18303]: writev (6/80): No buffer space 
available

Aug 28 06:04:09 4slgbmernfw01 bgpd[18303]: writev (8/120): No buffer space 
available

Aug 28 06:04:09 4slgbmernfw01 bgpd[18303]: neighbor 192.168.55.5 (AWS-DC MER 
Peer): pfkey setup failed

Aug 28 06:04:10 4slgbmernfw01 bgpd[18303]: Connection attempt from neighbor 
192.168.55.5 (AWS-DC MER Peer) while session is in state Idle

Aug 28 06:04:46 4slgbmernfw01 bgpd[18303]: Connection attempt from neighbor 
192.168.55.5 (AWS-DC MER Peer) while session is in state Idle

Aug 28 06:05:18 4slgbmernfw01 bgpd[18303]: Connection attempt from neighbor 
192.168.55.5 (AWS-DC MER Peer) while session is in state Idle

Bgpd stopped routing.

I have restarted bgpd and everything is OK – but I would like to find out what 
happened or rather how to avoid it happening again – can anyone make any 
suggestions or point me in the right direction.  Was it because of the hold 
timer expiry ??

Many thanks,



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Re: [pfSense] Netgate APU2 SSD module question

2014-08-28 Thread Espen Johansen
All I'm saying is that a normal SLC cell can handle about 10 times more
writes then a MLC if everything else is the same. And as far as I ca tell,
the ability to handle writes is the OPs main concern. A SLC based SDHC card
will have about 10 times longer life span in that regard.
If you want it perfect then sure there are better options and technologies.
I'm just trying to make the choice a easy one based on what the OP asked.
There is allways better cheaper and faster tech just around the corner.
27. aug. 2014 21:26 skrev Jim Thompson j...@smallworks.com følgende:

 SD cards are storage, but not “disks” nor “drives”.

 Beyond m-SATA, eMMC is your best option.  Not only are they faster than SD
 cards (speeds of the larger devices rival those of traditional SSDs, as
 well as supporting a “TRIM”-like operation, priority interruptible READ and
 ERASE operations, background operations, and riding the cost-curve of
 cellular handsets (growing) .vs consumer point-and-shoot cameras
 (shrinking), etc.)

 (This, by the way, is a huge, huge ‘hint’.)
 (You may wish read between the lines.)

 A lot of the SLC / MLC mythos is from before the days of JEDEC standards
 for endurance, advanced wear-leveling algorithms, and before a lof of the
 firmware engineers understood concepts such as “read disturbance”, “write
 disturbance”, and “ECC correction thresholds”.  It’s certainly not as
 simple as you’re making it out to be.

 (This, again, is the big reason that Netgate stayed out of the early
 fracas around SSDs.)

 I’m not going to depend on what someone said in the forum over 3 years
 ago, since it’s unlikely to apply today.

 Jim

 On Aug 27, 2014, at 1:32 PM, Espen Johansen pfse...@gmail.com wrote:

 For completeness sake.
 Just to clarify. You can get SDHC cards that are SLC based. Pretty much
 everything called industrial grade SD/SDHC will be a SLC SSD in SD format.
 Understood. Thank you for the clarification.

 Would it be possible to have the description updated on the sales page? It
 only says you can boot via SD through USB.

 --
 Ryan Coleman
 ryanjc...@me.com
 m. 651.373.5015
 o. 612.568.2749

 On Aug 27, 2014, at 9:24, Jim Thompson j...@netgate.com wrote:


 Yes, the system can be booted from an SD (or SDHC) card.  Or from USB, or
 from the m-SATA.

 All of these require proper preparation of the requisite ‘disk’ (-like
 device).

 Jim

 On Aug 27, 2014, at 9:21 AM, Ryan Coleman ryanjc...@me.com wrote:

 I understand *that* however it doesn't say on the features page it can be
 booted off the SD slot - is that true? If so I have to change a few quotes
 I have in play as they will need to get mSATA SSDs instead.

 On Aug 27, 2014, at 9:20, Jim Thompson j...@smallworks.com wrote:


 The SD (SDHC describes some cards which work in the slot) card slot is a
 “base feature”.   If people choose to fit a m-SATA drive,
 then they can.  Or they can use the SD card socket.

 It’s not like we’re going to de-solder the SD card socket if it’s not
 going to be used.

 Neither are we going to carry two different SKUs (one with, one without).

 Jim

 On Aug 27, 2014, at 7:57 AM, Ryan Coleman ryanjc...@me.com wrote:

 Why not answer the question?


 On Aug 27, 2014, at 7:56, Jim Thompson j...@netgate.com wrote:

 Ryan,

 Don't troll.



 On Aug 27, 2014, at 7:33 AM, Ryan Coleman ryanjc...@me.com wrote:

 Wait, so the SDHC slot on this board is simply for show?

 On Aug 26, 2014, at 13:56, Sergii Cherkashyn ser...@accurategroup.com
 wrote:

 Thank you Espen,

 Squid is for filtering purpose only, not to save bandwidth.
 On Netgate they have only this SSD as an option. But I’ll keep your advice
 in mind.

 Best regards*,*
 *Sergii Cherkashyn*


 Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2014 20:45:46 +0200
 From: Espen Johansen pfse...@gmail.com
 To: pfSense support and discussion list@lists.pfsense.org
 Subject: Re: [pfSense] Netgate APU2 SSD module question
 Message-ID:
 
 caadq7-adzhlsv1p6rl7kwaaomaws1uqcet6fxa5ngdn8sl5...@mail.gmail.com
 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8

 I personally don't think you will have an issue with too many writes in a
 normal environment. Why squid tho? if its for filtering fine. For
 acceleration and 3-6 persons it will most likely not do you much good.
 Also check MLC vs SLC. SLC based SSD will last longer. Approximately 10
 times longer. And even more with the right write leveling tech.

 Just my 2 cents.


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Re: [pfSense] Netgate APU2 SSD module question

2014-08-28 Thread Jim Thompson
And I'm saying that you have to evaluate these things as systems, not the base 
level tech. 

 On Aug 28, 2014, at 8:06 AM, Espen Johansen pfse...@gmail.com wrote:
 All I'm saying is that a normal SLC cell can handle about 10 times more 
 writes then a MLC if everything else is the same. And as far as I ca tell, 
 the ability to handle writes is the OPs main concern. A SLC based SDHC card 
 will have about 10 times longer life span in that regard.
 If you want it perfect then sure there are better options and technologies. 
 I'm just trying to make the choice a easy one based on what the OP asked. 
 There is allways better cheaper and faster tech just around the corner.
 
 27. aug. 2014 21:26 skrev Jim Thompson j...@smallworks.com følgende:
 SD cards are storage, but not “disks” nor “drives”.
 
 Beyond m-SATA, eMMC is your best option.  Not only are they faster than SD 
 cards (speeds of the larger devices rival those of traditional SSDs, as well 
 as supporting a “TRIM”-like operation, priority interruptible READ and ERASE 
 operations, background operations, and riding the cost-curve of cellular 
 handsets (growing) .vs consumer point-and-shoot cameras (shrinking), etc.)
 
 (This, by the way, is a huge, huge ‘hint’.)
 (You may wish read between the lines.)
 
 A lot of the SLC / MLC mythos is from before the days of JEDEC standards for 
 endurance, advanced wear-leveling algorithms, and before a lof of the 
 firmware engineers understood concepts such as “read disturbance”, “write 
 disturbance”, and “ECC correction thresholds”.  It’s certainly not as simple 
 as you’re making it out to be.
 
 (This, again, is the big reason that Netgate stayed out of the early fracas 
 around SSDs.)
 
 I’m not going to depend on what someone said in the forum over 3 years ago, 
 since it’s unlikely to apply today.
 
 Jim
 
 On Aug 27, 2014, at 1:32 PM, Espen Johansen pfse...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 For completeness sake.
 Just to clarify. You can get SDHC cards that are SLC based. Pretty much 
 everything called industrial grade SD/SDHC will be a SLC SSD in SD format.
 
 Understood. Thank you for the clarification. 
 
 Would it be possible to have the description updated on the sales page? It 
 only says you can boot via SD through USB. 
 
 --
 Ryan Coleman
 ryanjc...@me.com
 m. 651.373.5015
 o. 612.568.2749
 
 On Aug 27, 2014, at 9:24, Jim Thompson j...@netgate.com wrote:
 
 
 Yes, the system can be booted from an SD (or SDHC) card.  Or from USB, or 
 from the m-SATA.
 
 All of these require proper preparation of the requisite ‘disk’ (-like 
 device).
 
 Jim
 
 On Aug 27, 2014, at 9:21 AM, Ryan Coleman ryanjc...@me.com wrote:
 
 I understand *that* however it doesn't say on the features page it can be 
 booted off the SD slot - is that true? If so I have to change a few 
 quotes I have in play as they will need to get mSATA SSDs instead. 
 
 On Aug 27, 2014, at 9:20, Jim Thompson j...@smallworks.com wrote:
 
 
 The SD (SDHC describes some cards which work in the slot) card slot is a 
 “base feature”.   If people choose to fit a m-SATA drive,
 then they can.  Or they can use the SD card socket.
 
 It’s not like we’re going to de-solder the SD card socket if it’s not 
 going to be used.
 
 Neither are we going to carry two different SKUs (one with, one without).
 
 Jim
 
 On Aug 27, 2014, at 7:57 AM, Ryan Coleman ryanjc...@me.com wrote:
 
 Why not answer the question?
 
 
 On Aug 27, 2014, at 7:56, Jim Thompson j...@netgate.com wrote:
 
 Ryan,
 
 Don't troll. 
 
 
 
 On Aug 27, 2014, at 7:33 AM, Ryan Coleman ryanjc...@me.com wrote:
 
 Wait, so the SDHC slot on this board is simply for show?
 
 On Aug 26, 2014, at 13:56, Sergii Cherkashyn 
 ser...@accurategroup.com wrote:
 
 Thank you Espen,
  
 Squid is for filtering purpose only, not to save bandwidth.
 On Netgate they have only this SSD as an option. But I’ll keep your 
 advice in mind.
  
 Best regards,
 Sergii Cherkashyn
  
 
 Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2014 20:45:46 +0200
 From: Espen Johansen pfse...@gmail.com
 To: pfSense support and discussion list@lists.pfsense.org
 Subject: Re: [pfSense] Netgate APU2 SSD module question
 Message-ID:
 
 caadq7-adzhlsv1p6rl7kwaaomaws1uqcet6fxa5ngdn8sl5...@mail.gmail.com
 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
  
 I personally don't think you will have an issue with too many writes 
 in a normal environment. Why squid tho? if its for filtering fine. 
 For acceleration and 3-6 persons it will most likely not do you much 
 good.
 Also check MLC vs SLC. SLC based SSD will last longer. Approximately 
 10 times longer. And even more with the right write leveling tech.
  
 Just my 2 cents.
  
  
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Re: [pfSense] Netgate APU2 SSD module question

2014-08-28 Thread Ryan Coleman
As a photographer of many many years - the SD cards on the market for us exceed 
the life span of CF. 

HOWEVER CF has a much larger potential capacity.

If you spend $10 on a card that has a higher end build for $50 you should know 
your data will fail sooner rather than later. 


 On Aug 28, 2014, at 9:12, Jim Thompson j...@netgate.com wrote:
 
 And I'm saying that you have to evaluate these things as systems, not the 
 base level tech. 
 
 On Aug 28, 2014, at 8:06 AM, Espen Johansen pfse...@gmail.com wrote:
 All I'm saying is that a normal SLC cell can handle about 10 times more 
 writes then a MLC if everything else is the same. And as far as I ca tell, 
 the ability to handle writes is the OPs main concern. A SLC based SDHC card 
 will have about 10 times longer life span in that regard.
 If you want it perfect then sure there are better options and technologies. 
 I'm just trying to make the choice a easy one based on what the OP asked. 
 There is allways better cheaper and faster tech just around the corner.
 
 27. aug. 2014 21:26 skrev Jim Thompson j...@smallworks.com følgende:
 SD cards are storage, but not “disks” nor “drives”.
 
 Beyond m-SATA, eMMC is your best option.  Not only are they faster than SD 
 cards (speeds of the larger devices rival those of traditional SSDs, as 
 well as supporting a “TRIM”-like operation, priority interruptible READ and 
 ERASE operations, background operations, and riding the cost-curve of 
 cellular handsets (growing) .vs consumer point-and-shoot cameras 
 (shrinking), etc.)
 
 (This, by the way, is a huge, huge ‘hint’.)
 (You may wish read between the lines.)
 
 A lot of the SLC / MLC mythos is from before the days of JEDEC standards 
 for endurance, advanced wear-leveling algorithms, and before a lof of the 
 firmware engineers understood concepts such as “read disturbance”, “write 
 disturbance”, and “ECC correction thresholds”.  It’s certainly not as 
 simple as you’re making it out to be.
 
 (This, again, is the big reason that Netgate stayed out of the early fracas 
 around SSDs.)
 
 I’m not going to depend on what someone said in the forum over 3 years ago, 
 since it’s unlikely to apply today.
 
 Jim
 
 On Aug 27, 2014, at 1:32 PM, Espen Johansen pfse...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 For completeness sake.
 Just to clarify. You can get SDHC cards that are SLC based. Pretty much 
 everything called industrial grade SD/SDHC will be a SLC SSD in SD format.
 
 Understood. Thank you for the clarification. 
 
 Would it be possible to have the description updated on the sales page? It 
 only says you can boot via SD through USB. 
 
 --
 Ryan Coleman
 ryanjc...@me.com
 m. 651.373.5015
 o. 612.568.2749
 
 On Aug 27, 2014, at 9:24, Jim Thompson j...@netgate.com wrote:
 
 
 Yes, the system can be booted from an SD (or SDHC) card.  Or from USB, or 
 from the m-SATA.
 
 All of these require proper preparation of the requisite ‘disk’ (-like 
 device).
 
 Jim
 
 On Aug 27, 2014, at 9:21 AM, Ryan Coleman ryanjc...@me.com wrote:
 
 I understand *that* however it doesn't say on the features page it can 
 be booted off the SD slot - is that true? If so I have to change a few 
 quotes I have in play as they will need to get mSATA SSDs instead. 
 
 On Aug 27, 2014, at 9:20, Jim Thompson j...@smallworks.com wrote:
 
 
 The SD (SDHC describes some cards which work in the slot) card slot is 
 a “base feature”.   If people choose to fit a m-SATA drive,
 then they can.  Or they can use the SD card socket.
 
 It’s not like we’re going to de-solder the SD card socket if it’s not 
 going to be used.
 
 Neither are we going to carry two different SKUs (one with, one 
 without).
 
 Jim
 
 On Aug 27, 2014, at 7:57 AM, Ryan Coleman ryanjc...@me.com wrote:
 
 Why not answer the question?
 
 
 On Aug 27, 2014, at 7:56, Jim Thompson j...@netgate.com wrote:
 
 Ryan,
 
 Don't troll. 
 
 
 
 On Aug 27, 2014, at 7:33 AM, Ryan Coleman ryanjc...@me.com wrote:
 
 Wait, so the SDHC slot on this board is simply for show?
 
 On Aug 26, 2014, at 13:56, Sergii Cherkashyn 
 ser...@accurategroup.com wrote:
 
 Thank you Espen,
  
 Squid is for filtering purpose only, not to save bandwidth.
 On Netgate they have only this SSD as an option. But I’ll keep your 
 advice in mind.
  
 Best regards,
 Sergii Cherkashyn
  
 
 Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2014 20:45:46 +0200
 From: Espen Johansen pfse...@gmail.com
 To: pfSense support and discussion list@lists.pfsense.org
 Subject: Re: [pfSense] Netgate APU2 SSD module question
 Message-ID:
 
 caadq7-adzhlsv1p6rl7kwaaomaws1uqcet6fxa5ngdn8sl5...@mail.gmail.com
 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
  
 I personally don't think you will have an issue with too many 
 writes in a normal environment. Why squid tho? if its for filtering 
 fine. For acceleration and 3-6 persons it will most likely not do 
 you much good.
 Also check MLC vs SLC. SLC based SSD will last longer. 
 Approximately 10 times longer. And even more with the right write 
 leveling tech.
  
 Just my 

Re: [pfSense] Netgate APU2 SSD module question

2014-08-28 Thread Ryan Coleman
So it doesn't need to be in the description really...

Yes that's what was throwing me. It implies you can only boot from SD by adding 
it to a USB adapter. 


 On Aug 27, 2014, at 13:25, Espen Johansen pfse...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 If I may...
 I think Ryan is confused about the usb part. The SD slot is a onboard slot 
 but its not connnected/wired to IDE/SATA bus, but rather it is connected to 
 the USB bus just as a external usb card reader would be,  but offcource its 
 onboard and hardwired. Thus the confusion I assume.
 
 27. aug. 2014 20:01 skrev Jim Thompson j...@netgate.com følgende:
 Ryan,
 
 I’m not sure what you’re asking.
 
 This thread started off with Sergii Cherkashyn asking if running on an SSD 
 was advisable.
 
 Obviously, it works, or we wouldn’t offer it. (The thread Sergii pointed-to 
 is from early 2011.  Netgate did not ship SSDs for several
 years because the reliability *then* was so poor.  The situation changed, 
 and, once quality SSDs were available (*with power-fail capacitors, etc.*),
 we began offering same.
 
 Then you jumped in asking (is) “SDHC slot on this board is simply for show?”
 
 I honestly though you were trolling.   Since there is a configuration of the 
 APU units available for sale both at the Netgate store *and* the pfSense 
 store (http://store.pfsense.org) that does not include a m-sata drive, how 
 else could the system boot pfSense?
 
 Now you post on a public list, (a list about pfSense), asking me to change 
 an unspecified page on (I assume), the Netgate site.
 
 Setting aside the whole issue of why we’re talking about this on-list, I 
 can’t find the text that confused you.
 
 Here is what I found on the Netgate site:
 
 http://store.netgate.com/APU1C4.aspx says: Boot from SD card (connected 
 through USB), external USB or m-SATA SSD.”
 http://store.netgate.com/APU1C.aspx says: Boot from SD card (connected 
 through USB), external USB or m-SATA SSD.
 
 You may wish to note that this language exactly matches that found on the PC 
 Engines site:
 Boot from SD card (connected through USB), external USB or m-SATA 
 SSD.”
 
 ref: http://pcengines.ch/apu.htm, and http://pcengines.ch/apu1c.htm,
 
 and page 9 of the schematic for the APU 
 (http://pcengines.ch/schema/apu1c.pdf) clearly shows that the “SD card 
 interface” runs through a Alcore Micro AU6465 
 (http://www.alcormicro.com/en_content/c_product/product_01b.php?CategoryID=7IndexID=19)
  to USB6 on the AMD T40 SoC.
 
 If you will be so kind as to make a specific request for change of the 
 language you found confusing, I’ll take a look at it.
 You might even send such a request to me in-private, so as not to further 
 clutter the list.
 
 Right now, I can’t find a problem.
 
 JIm
 
 
  On Aug 27, 2014, at 9:26 AM, Ryan Coleman ryanjc...@me.com wrote:
 
  Understood. Thank you for the clarification.
 
  Would it be possible to have the description updated on the sales page? It 
  only says you can boot via SD through USB.
 
  --
  Ryan Coleman
  ryanjc...@me.com
  m. 651.373.5015
  o. 612.568.2749
 
  On Aug 27, 2014, at 9:24, Jim Thompson j...@netgate.com wrote:
 
 
  Yes, the system can be booted from an SD (or SDHC) card.  Or from USB, or 
  from the m-SATA.
 
  All of these require proper preparation of the requisite ‘disk’ (-like 
  device).
 
  Jim
 
  On Aug 27, 2014, at 9:21 AM, Ryan Coleman ryanjc...@me.com wrote:
 
  I understand *that* however it doesn't say on the features page it can 
  be booted off the SD slot - is that true? If so I have to change a few 
  quotes I have in play as they will need to get mSATA SSDs instead.
 
  On Aug 27, 2014, at 9:20, Jim Thompson j...@smallworks.com wrote:
 
 
  The SD (SDHC describes some cards which work in the slot) card slot is 
  a “base feature”.   If people choose to fit a m-SATA drive,
  then they can.  Or they can use the SD card socket.
 
  It’s not like we’re going to de-solder the SD card socket if it’s not 
  going to be used.
 
  Neither are we going to carry two different SKUs (one with, one 
  without).
 
  Jim
 
  On Aug 27, 2014, at 7:57 AM, Ryan Coleman ryanjc...@me.com wrote:
 
  Why not answer the question?
 
 
  On Aug 27, 2014, at 7:56, Jim Thompson j...@netgate.com wrote:
 
  Ryan,
 
  Don't troll.
 
 
 
  On Aug 27, 2014, at 7:33 AM, Ryan Coleman ryanjc...@me.com wrote:
 
  Wait, so the SDHC slot on this board is simply for show?
 
  On Aug 26, 2014, at 13:56, Sergii Cherkashyn 
  ser...@accurategroup.com wrote:
 
  Thank you Espen,
 
  Squid is for filtering purpose only, not to save bandwidth.
  On Netgate they have only this SSD as an option. But I’ll keep your 
  advice in mind.
 
  Best regards,
  Sergii Cherkashyn
 
 
  Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2014 20:45:46 +0200
  From: Espen Johansen pfse...@gmail.com
  To: pfSense support and discussion list@lists.pfsense.org
  Subject: Re: [pfSense] Netgate APU2 SSD module question
  Message-ID:
  
  caadq7-adzhlsv1p6rl7kwaaomaws1uqcet6fxa5ngdn8sl5...@mail.gmail.com
  

Re: [pfSense] Netgate APU2 SSD module question

2014-08-28 Thread Ryan Coleman
By that logic neither is compact flash


 On Aug 27, 2014, at 14:25, Jim Thompson j...@smallworks.com wrote:
 
 SD cards are storage, but not “disks” nor “drives”.
 
 Beyond m-SATA, eMMC is your best option.  Not only are they faster than SD 
 cards (speeds of the larger devices rival those of traditional SSDs, as well 
 as supporting a “TRIM”-like operation, priority interruptible READ and ERASE 
 operations, background operations, and riding the cost-curve of cellular 
 handsets (growing) .vs consumer point-and-shoot cameras (shrinking), etc.)
 
 (This, by the way, is a huge, huge ‘hint’.)
 (You may wish read between the lines.)
 
 A lot of the SLC / MLC mythos is from before the days of JEDEC standards for 
 endurance, advanced wear-leveling algorithms, and before a lof of the 
 firmware engineers understood concepts such as “read disturbance”, “write 
 disturbance”, and “ECC correction thresholds”.  It’s certainly not as simple 
 as you’re making it out to be.
 
 (This, again, is the big reason that Netgate stayed out of the early fracas 
 around SSDs.)
 
 I’m not going to depend on what someone said in the forum over 3 years ago, 
 since it’s unlikely to apply today.
 
 Jim
 
 On Aug 27, 2014, at 1:32 PM, Espen Johansen pfse...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 For completeness sake.
 Just to clarify. You can get SDHC cards that are SLC based. Pretty much 
 everything called industrial grade SD/SDHC will be a SLC SSD in SD format.
 
 Understood. Thank you for the clarification. 
 
 Would it be possible to have the description updated on the sales page? It 
 only says you can boot via SD through USB. 
 
 --
 Ryan Coleman
 ryanjc...@me.com
 m. 651.373.5015
 o. 612.568.2749
 
 On Aug 27, 2014, at 9:24, Jim Thompson j...@netgate.com wrote:
 
 
 Yes, the system can be booted from an SD (or SDHC) card.  Or from USB, or 
 from the m-SATA.
 
 All of these require proper preparation of the requisite ‘disk’ (-like 
 device).
 
 Jim
 
 On Aug 27, 2014, at 9:21 AM, Ryan Coleman ryanjc...@me.com wrote:
 
 I understand *that* however it doesn't say on the features page it can be 
 booted off the SD slot - is that true? If so I have to change a few quotes 
 I have in play as they will need to get mSATA SSDs instead. 
 
 On Aug 27, 2014, at 9:20, Jim Thompson j...@smallworks.com wrote:
 
 
 The SD (SDHC describes some cards which work in the slot) card slot is a 
 “base feature”.   If people choose to fit a m-SATA drive,
 then they can.  Or they can use the SD card socket.
 
 It’s not like we’re going to de-solder the SD card socket if it’s not 
 going to be used.
 
 Neither are we going to carry two different SKUs (one with, one without).
 
 Jim
 
 On Aug 27, 2014, at 7:57 AM, Ryan Coleman ryanjc...@me.com wrote:
 
 Why not answer the question?
 
 
 On Aug 27, 2014, at 7:56, Jim Thompson j...@netgate.com wrote:
 
 Ryan,
 
 Don't troll. 
 
 
 
 On Aug 27, 2014, at 7:33 AM, Ryan Coleman ryanjc...@me.com wrote:
 
 Wait, so the SDHC slot on this board is simply for show?
 
 On Aug 26, 2014, at 13:56, Sergii Cherkashyn 
 ser...@accurategroup.com wrote:
 
 Thank you Espen,
  
 Squid is for filtering purpose only, not to save bandwidth.
 On Netgate they have only this SSD as an option. But I’ll keep your 
 advice in mind.
  
 Best regards,
 Sergii Cherkashyn
  
 
 Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2014 20:45:46 +0200
 From: Espen Johansen pfse...@gmail.com
 To: pfSense support and discussion list@lists.pfsense.org
 Subject: Re: [pfSense] Netgate APU2 SSD module question
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 I personally don't think you will have an issue with too many writes 
 in a normal environment. Why squid tho? if its for filtering fine. 
 For acceleration and 3-6 persons it will most likely not do you much 
 good.
 Also check MLC vs SLC. SLC based SSD will last longer. Approximately 
 10 times longer. And even more with the right write leveling tech.
  
 Just my 2 cents.
  
  
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[pfSense] Fwd: [Announce] 2.1.5 Release

2014-08-28 Thread Ryan Coleman
FYI. 


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 2.1.5 RELEASE Now Available
 https://blog.pfsense.org/?p=1401
 Release Notes:
 https://doc.pfsense.org/index.php/2.1.5_New_Features_and_Changes
 
 Security Fixes
pfSense-SA-14_14.openssl
See http://www.openssl.org/news/secadv_20140806.txt
Updated to OpenSSL 0.9.8zb and 1.0.1i
pfSense-SA-14_15.webgui
pfSense-SA-14_16.webgui
pfSense-SA-14_17.webgui
 
 Other Fixes
Handle a missing DHCPD config section properly during a
 configuration upgrade
Fix a regression that broke CARP+IP alias VIP functionality
Fix the Pass, Block, Reject and Interface filters in the Firewall
 Logs Widget #3725
Use HTTPS for dyndns providers that support it
Avoid resetting the firewall hostname from a WAN DHCP server #3746
Add missing qlimit keyword in some shaper rules
Change Cancel button to call history.back() when editing firewall
 aliases to fix issues with IE 11 #3728
Allow hostnames in bulk import since they are valid entries in a
 network type alias
Fix input validation logic on diag_testport.php, escape more shell
 arguments for good measure
Escape the individual dnsmasq advanced/custom options
Encode the detail field of an alias entry before displaying its
 contents back to the user
Encode interface/VIP descriptions before displaying them on the NTP
 daemon settings, and GIF/GRE interfaces
Per the dhcpd.conf man page and other documentation from ISC, mclt
 must not be defined on the secondary
Shorten the wait at reload in startup wizard to 5 seconds from 60
Do not execute DNS lookups on GET, only pre-fill Host box so the
 user can press the button to execute
Turn alias creation links from DNS lookups into submit buttons for POST
Remove javascript alert DNS resolution action from the firewall log
 view. It was already removed from 2.2, and it's better not to allow a
 GET action to perform that action
Require click-through POST confirmation when restoring or deleting a
 configuation from the backup history page
Avoid a Cannot use string offset as an array error if the packages
 section of the config is missing
Avoid generating an invalid IPsec (racoon) config if the user
 specified a mobile pool that is too small
IPsec phase 2 pinghost was not used if the source IP was a virtual
 IP address #3798
Move dhcp6c log to dhcpd.log #3799
Do not reset source and destination port range values when it's an
 associated rule created by NAT port forward. #3778
Added filter.so to list of extensions loaded for filter_var() support.
The pfSense PHP module was setting the subnet mask of lo0 to /0,
 which could break some routes and cause other unintended routing side
 effects.
 
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Re: [pfSense] Fwd: [Announce] 2.1.5 Release

2014-08-28 Thread RB
On Thu, Aug 28, 2014 at 2:59 PM, Ryan Coleman ryanjc...@me.com wrote:
 FYI.

Oh, hey - sweet!  I didn't even realize I wasn't subscribed to announce@
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