By that logic neither is compact flash
> On Aug 27, 2014, at 14:25, Jim Thompson <j...@smallworks.com> wrote: > > SD cards are storage, but not “disks” nor “drives”. > > Beyond m-SATA, eMMC is your best option. Not only are they faster than SD > cards (speeds of the larger devices rival those of traditional SSDs, as well > as supporting a “TRIM”-like operation, priority interruptible READ and ERASE > operations, background operations, and riding the cost-curve of cellular > handsets (growing) .vs consumer point-and-shoot cameras (shrinking), etc.) > > (This, by the way, is a huge, huge ‘hint’.) > (You may wish read between the lines.) > > A lot of the SLC / MLC mythos is from before the days of JEDEC standards for > endurance, advanced wear-leveling algorithms, and before a lof of the > firmware engineers understood concepts such as “read disturbance”, “write > disturbance”, and “ECC correction thresholds”. It’s certainly not as simple > as you’re making it out to be. > > (This, again, is the big reason that Netgate stayed out of the early fracas > around SSDs.) > > I’m not going to depend on what someone said in the forum over 3 years ago, > since it’s unlikely to apply today. > > Jim > >> On Aug 27, 2014, at 1:32 PM, Espen Johansen <pfse...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> For completeness sake. >> Just to clarify. You can get SDHC cards that are SLC based. Pretty much >> everything called industrial grade SD/SDHC will be a SLC SSD in SD format. >> >> Understood. Thank you for the clarification. >> >> Would it be possible to have the description updated on the sales page? It >> only says you can boot via SD through USB. >> >> -- >> Ryan Coleman >> ryanjc...@me.com >> m. 651.373.5015 >> o. 612.568.2749 >> >>> On Aug 27, 2014, at 9:24, Jim Thompson <j...@netgate.com> wrote: >>> >>> >>> Yes, the system can be booted from an SD (or SDHC) card. Or from USB, or >>> from the m-SATA. >>> >>> All of these require proper preparation of the requisite ‘disk’ (-like >>> device). >>> >>> Jim >>> >>>> On Aug 27, 2014, at 9:21 AM, Ryan Coleman <ryanjc...@me.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> I understand *that* however it doesn't say on the features page it can be >>>> booted off the SD slot - is that true? If so I have to change a few quotes >>>> I have in play as they will need to get mSATA SSDs instead. >>>> >>>>> On Aug 27, 2014, at 9:20, Jim Thompson <j...@smallworks.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> The SD (SDHC describes some cards which work in the slot) card slot is a >>>>> “base feature”. If people choose to fit a m-SATA drive, >>>>> then they can. Or they can use the SD card socket. >>>>> >>>>> It’s not like we’re going to de-solder the SD card socket if it’s not >>>>> going to be used. >>>>> >>>>> Neither are we going to carry two different SKUs (one with, one without). >>>>> >>>>> Jim >>>>> >>>>>> On Aug 27, 2014, at 7:57 AM, Ryan Coleman <ryanjc...@me.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Why not answer the question? >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> On Aug 27, 2014, at 7:56, Jim Thompson <j...@netgate.com> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Ryan, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Don't troll. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Aug 27, 2014, at 7:33 AM, Ryan Coleman <ryanjc...@me.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Wait, so the SDHC slot on this board is simply for show? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Aug 26, 2014, at 13:56, Sergii Cherkashyn >>>>>>>>> <ser...@accurategroup.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Thank you Espen, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Squid is for filtering purpose only, not to save bandwidth. >>>>>>>>> On Netgate they have only this SSD as an option. But I’ll keep your >>>>>>>>> advice in mind. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Best regards, >>>>>>>>> Sergii Cherkashyn >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2014 20:45:46 +0200 >>>>>>>>> From: Espen Johansen <pfse...@gmail.com> >>>>>>>>> To: pfSense support and discussion <list@lists.pfsense.org> >>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [pfSense] Netgate APU2 SSD module question >>>>>>>>> Message-ID: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> <caadq7-adzhlsv1p6rl7kwaaomaws1uqcet6fxa5ngdn8sl5...@mail.gmail.com> >>>>>>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I personally don't think you will have an issue with too many writes >>>>>>>>> in a normal environment. Why squid tho? if its for filtering fine. >>>>>>>>> For acceleration and 3-6 persons it will most likely not do you much >>>>>>>>> good. >>>>>>>>> Also check MLC vs SLC. SLC based SSD will last longer. Approximately >>>>>>>>> 10 times longer. 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