Re: [WSG] Site Check: SAPheadhunter
http://www.tjkdesign.com/clients/roel/ Left column not well prepared for my standard option... 'min font size = 14px'. Same overshooting result in Firefox 1.5 and Opera 9tp2. I can't think of a fix besides creating a large gutter between the two columns... Not necessary, as you can have elastic layouts without using em on individual containers. I just tested on a copy of your page, and it behaves just fine even though I didn't go in depth or looked at your CSS. The trick (which should be used more often, IMO) is to set 'em'-width only on the outer container and '%'-width on all the others. Your layout is so close to an ordinary '25%+75% 2-column float construct' that it'll come out fine with such values. Some slight margin-adjustments will take care of the rest across browser-land My hope is that users with such settings will know how to take advantage of that elastic layout; two simple Ctrl++ should take care of the issue. :-) Guess so. However, we use such minimum-settings so we won't have to click anything. That's the whole idea. regards Georg -- http://www.gunlaug.no ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Max/min width for IE
Eww! Using HTML elements to solve a display issue? I know where you are coming from, I have had 'clients' like this before, too. I have had to use MS CSS expressions to solve the issue of position fixed and found it relatively easy to use, although I would have rather not used it had there been another way. As far as min/max width, have you tried placing a nested div within the area to be min-width'd with padding of the amount to be width'd and contents of a non-breaking space? Sound's like that might work to me, anyone else? Jough Ricci Angela wrote: Hello everybody Following the late discussion about fluid/elastic layouts, I was wondered if somebody out there has some feedback concerning the use of Microsoft's Dynamic properties proprietary solution for fixing the lack of min/max-width support. After some discussion with my client, they impose me the use of a one-cell table to fix this for IE, but I really think it is a pitty to have to do it... And, besides a javascript solution, all I've found out was MS dynamic properties. If somebody already used those, please could you share your experiences ? Thanks a lot Angela ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Site Check: SAPheadhunter
Gunlaug Sørtun wrote: Not necessary, as you can have elastic layouts without using em on individual containers. I just tested on a copy of your page, and it behaves just fine even though I didn't go in depth or looked at your CSS. Doh! Talk about totally missing the big picture here. LOL *Thanks*. Regards, Thierry | www.TJKDesign.com ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Site Check: SAPheadhunter
Gunlaug Sørtun wrote: Now, remember to test with all the usual browser-options, because I might :-) At the moment that... SAPbr / headhunter/h1 ...is showing up in IE/win when I use the 'ignore font size' option. You should cover it better... Fixed! That's the best site check I ever got, please keep throwing them at me ;-) Regards, Thierry | www.TJKDesign.com ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
RE: [WSG] Site check please www.commerceengine.com.au/index.htm
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Re: [WSG] Max/min width for IE
Ricci Angela skrev:
Following the late discussion about fluid/elastic layouts, I was wondered if
somebody out there has some feedback concerning the use of Microsoft's Dynamic
properties proprietary solution for fixing the lack of min/max-width support.
To use JScript inside CSS for IE works good, as long as scripting is
enabled.
I do max-width in ems this way:
HTML (ignored by other browsers):
!--[if lt IE 7]span id=em—/span![endif]--
CSS (served for IE only with conditional comments in the head section
of the HTML):
#wrapper
{
width: 740px;
width:expression(
(document.getElementById(em).offsetWidth*59
document.body.clientWidth) ? 59.5em : auto
);
}
The span should be inside the element you want to set max-with on (to
make the width of the em-dash correct).
Live example:
http://www.forum-antroposofi.info/
Not tested with IE in quirks mode.
/AndersN
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[WSG] 404 Redirectationite
I run an apache server and utilize the .htaccess file to run a php script on a 404 error. This php script grabs the contents of the current uri to display information. (example: www.joughslife.com/Rockport.html) My question is, will this have any effect as far as usability? Also, the w3c validator was unable to recognize the page as anything other than 404; will other spiders/bots be able to recognize content? Thank you, as always! Jough ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Max/min width for IE
W3C - Tables should not be used purely as a means to layout document content as this may present problems when rendering to non-visual media. Additionally, when used with graphics, these tables may force users to scroll horizontally to view a table designed on a system with a larger display. To minimize these problems, authors should use style sheets ../present/styles.html to control layout rather than tables. Using a table in this case will not present any problems, no. But (correct me if I am wrong), the main purpose of a table was originally designed to display a relationship between multiple sets of data (ie: spreadsheet). A table can, in fact, be used for display purposes when containing relevant data but for the problem at hand I am sticking with my recommendation of a div. Thanks though! Jough Samuel Richardson wrote: Might as well just use a table in that case. Joseph Bernhardt wrote: Eww! Using HTML elements to solve a display issue? I know where you are coming from, I have had 'clients' like this before, too. I have had to use MS CSS expressions to solve the issue of position fixed and found it relatively easy to use, although I would have rather not used it had there been another way. As far as min/max width, have you tried placing a nested div within the area to be min-width'd with padding of the amount to be width'd and contents of a non-breaking space? Sound's like that might work to me, anyone else? Jough Ricci Angela wrote: Hello everybody Following the late discussion about fluid/elastic layouts, I was wondered if somebody out there has some feedback concerning the use of Microsoft's Dynamic properties proprietary solution for fixing the lack of min/max-width support. After some discussion with my client, they impose me the use of a one-cell table to fix this for IE, but I really think it is a pitty to have to do it... And, besides a javascript solution, all I've found out was MS dynamic properties. If somebody already used those, please could you share your experiences ? Thanks a lot Angela ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Max/min width for IE
Yes but he's talking about using a DIV to force open an area of the page. It doesn't matter if you use a div or a table because in both cases you're using an HTML element as presentation (even if you can't see it). Joseph Bernhardt wrote: W3C - Tables should not be used purely as a means to layout document content as this may present problems when rendering to non-visual media. Additionally, when used with graphics, these tables may force users to scroll horizontally to view a table designed on a system with a larger display. To minimize these problems, authors should use style sheets ../present/styles.html to control layout rather than tables. Using a table in this case will not present any problems, no. But (correct me if I am wrong), the main purpose of a table was originally designed to display a relationship between multiple sets of data (ie: spreadsheet). A table can, in fact, be used for display purposes when containing relevant data but for the problem at hand I am sticking with my recommendation of a div. Thanks though! Jough Samuel Richardson wrote: Might as well just use a table in that case. Joseph Bernhardt wrote: Eww! Using HTML elements to solve a display issue? I know where you are coming from, I have had 'clients' like this before, too. I have had to use MS CSS expressions to solve the issue of position fixed and found it relatively easy to use, although I would have rather not used it had there been another way. As far as min/max width, have you tried placing a nested div within the area to be min-width'd with padding of the amount to be width'd and contents of a non-breaking space? Sound's like that might work to me, anyone else? Jough Ricci Angela wrote: Hello everybody Following the late discussion about fluid/elastic layouts, I was wondered if somebody out there has some feedback concerning the use of Microsoft's Dynamic properties proprietary solution for fixing the lack of min/max-width support. After some discussion with my client, they impose me the use of a one-cell table to fix this for IE, but I really think it is a pitty to have to do it... And, besides a javascript solution, all I've found out was MS dynamic properties. If somebody already used those, please could you share your experiences ? Thanks a lot Angela ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Site Check: SAPheadhunter
[re-post: original message never made it to the list] Gunlaug Sørtun wrote: Now, remember to test with all the usual browser-options, because I might At the moment that... SAPbr / headhunter/h1 ...is showing up in IE/win when I use the 'ignore font size' option. You should cover it better... Done! That's the best site check I ever had, please keep throwing them at me Regards, Thierry | www.TJKDesign.com smile.gif Description: GIF image wink.gif Description: GIF image
[WSG] WCAG2 Last Call
Anyone got a link to the relevant page for a this just isn't good enough reply to the WCAG2 'last call' as discussed at Sydney WSG meeting last week?Thanks.
