Re: [WSG CMS] Etomite CMS

2006-06-03 Thread ian
 Hi everyone, this list is very quiet.

 I would like to hear from those who have plenty of CMSs experiences
 or who are CMS developers, how do you think of Etomite CMS.

 Many months, I tried different type of Opensource CMS but cannot find
 one that I really think works for me. I need something that is web
 standard compliant, that can generate clean code with strict doctype
 and has full CSS support, more importantly, a CMS that doesn't offer
 too much and easy to learn to use it. Finally, I found Etomite which
 suites my need very well and would like to use it for all future
 projects.

 http://www.etomite.org/

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I currently use Etomite on my personal site, finding it very flexible.
Currently the site validates to XHTML strict and CSS standards. I would be
interested in comments regarding rendering in various browsers, as this is
the next thing I need to check. My site is located at:

http://www.holt-online.info

Ian


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Re: [WSG] Print style sheets

2006-06-03 Thread Designer

Designer wrote:

I am still battling with print style sheets -

In particular, I have several property descriptions on the  holiday 
site, [1],  and I'm failing to get a decent print out.  Some are OK, 
some are awful, and I can't see what the difference is.  If you go to 
the site, pick 'holiday homes', then 'Constantine', then 'Curlews' and 
look at 'full details', you will find that the print style produces a 
reasonable print-out from firefox, but rubbish from IE. The problem is 
all tied up with the images being floated left and right: in FF there 
is no problem, but in IE I don't get any word wrap and the images 
stand alone. It's a mess.


The two style sheets for these details are at [2] and [3].

If anyone has had experience of this and how to overcome it, I'd be 
really, really, thrilled.


[1]  www.raintreehouse.co.uk
[2]  http://www.rhh.myzen.co.uk/rhh/css/propertydetails.css  
(media='all')
[3]  http://www.rhh.myzen.co.uk/rhh/css/property_print.css  
(media='print')


Many thanks--

Best Regards,

Bob McClelland

Cornwall (UK)
www.gwelanmor-internet.co.uk




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I've solved it. The screen version has the paragraph text justified, and 
this confuses the floats in the print version.  Changing to text-align : 
left in the print style cures the problem!


Thanks anyway :-)

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Best Regards,

Bob McClelland

Cornwall (UK)
www.gwelanmor-internet.co.uk




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Re: [WSG CMS] Etomite CMS

2006-06-03 Thread Steve Olive
On Sat, 3 Jun 2006 06:57 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I currently use Etomite on my personal site, finding it very flexible.
 Currently the site validates to XHTML strict and CSS standards. I would be
 interested in comments regarding rendering in various browsers, as this is
 the next thing I need to check. My site is located at:

 http://www.holt-online.info

 Ian

Hi Ian,

There are two warnings on the first page:

line 35 column 1 - Warning: link inserting type attribute 
line 64 column 2 - Warning: img attribute longdesc lacks value 
 
0 errors / 2 warnings 

The page looks good in Firefox 1.5.0.3 and Konqueror 3.4.2 on OpenSUSE 10.0. 
However in Opera 8.52 build 1631 your div id=innerContentColumnh1 
Welcome to Holt Online Info /h1 section looks very blocky on all pages 
(1280 x 1024 screen res) at any zoom level.

I will be keeping an eye on Etomite - I currently use phpWebSite for my CMS 
but it only produces XHTML transitional text/html.

Hope this helps.

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Steve
Bathurst Computer Solutions
URL: www.bathurstcomputers.com.au
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Re: [WSG CMS] Etomite CMS

2006-06-03 Thread tee g.peng


On Jun 3, 2006, at 6:50 PM, Steve Olive wrote:


I will be keeping an eye on Etomite - I currently use phpWebSite  
for my CMS

but it only produces XHTML transitional text/html.



Here is an example page from a site I'd been working on that uses  
XHTM strict 1.0, the contents there are generated from snippets and  
chunks and the page is validated.


http://www.decorsit.com.my/index.php?id=17

As a new CMS user, I am very impressed as I spent countless hours  
playing with Mamboo, Joolmla, phpWebsite and a few more that I can't  
even remember their names now, all of them either offer too much or  
generate codes that can't validate and of table layouts.

tee


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RE: [WSG] Accessibility standards - for commercial consumption

2006-06-03 Thread Gian Sampson-Wild
Hi
I would like to say - just to clear any misconceptions - that I am not on
the WCAG samurai list.
Gian

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From: listdad@webstandardsgroup.org [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Lachlan Hunt
Sent: Monday, 29 May 2006 10:28 PM
To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
Subject: Re: [WSG] Accessibility standards - for commercial consumption

Tony Crockford wrote:
 My suggestion and hope, was that this community could create a 
 document(s) that advised the web design community at large in a 
 pragmatic and specific way how to *implement* the guidelines.
 ...
 Of course the Academic approach dictates one generic document that 
 covers all technologies - easier to maintain and future-proof, and 
 that's the answer I suspect the WAI will give when asked to extend WCAG2 
 to include real-life specific and pragmatic examples.

Real life examples is supposedly what Techniques for WCAG 2.0 is all 
about, though it's not very good or complete.

I think this illustrates what the web developer community should be 
focussing on.  Rather than trying to translate a technical specification 
to make it readable by average joe developers, it would be more helpful 
to focus on the actual techniques that can be easily applied by others.

Much like Position is Everything focuses on practical examples and 
explanations of CSS techniques and related issues, a site that does the 
same for accessibility would be very useful.

There are several sites and resources that do offer accessibility tools 
and advice, such as Juicy Studio and WATS.ca, but when it comes to 
something that really walks a developer through accessibility from 
designing and building with modern, accessible techniques; coping with 
browser limitations, through to actually testing it with (and 
understanding how a disabled person uses) assistive technology, there 
really isn't all that much readily available.

How many people here actually test their sites with a screen reader (or 
other assistive technology) regularly?  One of the major problems is the 
price (JAWS, HPR and Windows-Eyes start from around $US800 or more), but 
even using a trial version, I expect most of us wouldn't really know 
where to begin.

-- 
Lachlan Hunt
http://lachy.id.au/
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