heretics

2001-02-08 Thread Greg McCarroll


for those needing my mobile number to find there way to the
heretics meeting tonight, this will not be possible as i
have left my phone at home - well done me!

-- 
Greg McCarroll  http://www.mccarroll.uklinux.net



OT: Buffy (or not OT, depending on your point of view)

2001-02-08 Thread Mark Fowler

So I watched the Buffy film for the first time, and I don't see what
you're all complaining about - or rather I do, but I don't care.

Sure, the first 40 minutes are a bit painful, and the vampires are a bit
daft, but I can see where we're going.  There's even some good banter in
there and some truly excellent backflips by the end - it just takes that
long for Buffy to turn into Buffy (rather than some Cordelia like
creature)

The one thing that gets me is that does anyone remember the trailer for
this film?  I seem to remember this bit where Donald Sutherland throws a
knife at Kirsy Swanson and she catches it between two palms in front
of her head.  Now I didn't see this in the movie.  Does anyone else
remember this?

Later.

Mark.

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print "\n",map{my$a="\n"if(length$_6);' 'x(36-length($_)/2)."$_\n$a"} (
   Name  = 'Mark Fowler',Title = 'Technology Developer'  ,
   Firm  = 'Profero Ltd',Web   = 'http://www.profero.com/'   ,
   Email = '[EMAIL PROTECTED]',   Phone = '+44 (0) 20 7700 9960'  )








RE: OT: Buffy (or not OT, depending on your point of view)

2001-02-08 Thread Mike . Davis

Did you ever see the trailer to 'Dirty Rotten Scoundrels' (with Steve Martin
and Michael Caine)? It had a wonderful bit where SM casually pushes an old
gran into a river... anyway, that wasn't in the movie, much to my
dissapointment.

My point being that sometimes they make up exciting bits purely for the
trailers. Hmmm, doesn't this count as false advertising?

 -Original Message-
 From: Mark Fowler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2001 10:07 AM
 To: London Perl Mongers
 Subject: OT: Buffy (or not OT, depending on your point of view)
 
 
 So I watched the Buffy film for the first time, and I don't see what
 you're all complaining about - or rather I do, but I don't care.
 
 Sure, the first 40 minutes are a bit painful, and the 
 vampires are a bit
 daft, but I can see where we're going.  There's even some 
 good banter in
 there and some truly excellent backflips by the end - it just 
 takes that
 long for Buffy to turn into Buffy (rather than some Cordelia like
 creature)
 
 The one thing that gets me is that does anyone remember the 
 trailer for
 this film?  I seem to remember this bit where Donald 
 Sutherland throws a
 knife at Kirsy Swanson and she catches it between two palms in front
 of her head.  Now I didn't see this in the movie.  Does anyone else
 remember this?
 
 Later.
 
 Mark.
 
 -- 
 print "\n",map{my$a="\n"if(length$_6);' 
 'x(36-length($_)/2)."$_\n$a"} (
Name  = 'Mark Fowler',Title = 'Technology 
 Developer'  ,
Firm  = 'Profero Ltd',Web   = 
 'http://www.profero.com/'   ,
Email = '[EMAIL PROTECTED]',   Phone = '+44 (0) 20 7700 
 9960'  )
 
 
 
 
 



Re: OT: Buffy (or not OT, depending on your point of view)

2001-02-08 Thread Tony Bowden

On Thu, Feb 08, 2001 at 11:20:58AM +, Greg McCarroll wrote:
 sounds like someone needs to buy the DVD and see if it comes with
 a cinema trailer

But, where would one buy DVDs?

Tony
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Re: OT: Buffy (or not OT, depending on your point of view)

2001-02-08 Thread Greg McCarroll

* Tony Bowden ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
 On Thu, Feb 08, 2001 at 11:20:58AM +, Greg McCarroll wrote:
  sounds like someone needs to buy the DVD and see if it comes with
  a cinema trailer
 
 But, where would one buy DVDs?
 

virgin megastores, hmv, wh smith, even woolies has them now

the highstreet is a wonderful place ;-)

oh and i suppose you could buy them online ..

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Greg McCarroll  http://www.mccarroll.uklinux.net



Re: OT: Buffy (or not OT, depending on your point of view)

2001-02-08 Thread David Cantrell

On Thu, Feb 08, 2001 at 11:56:30AM +, Greg McCarroll wrote:
 * Tony Bowden ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
 
  But, where would one buy DVDs?
 
 virgin megastores, hmv, wh smith, even woolies has them now
 the highstreet is a wonderful place ;-)
 oh and i suppose you could buy them online ..

I hear that Virgin, HMV and WH Smith all have online shops :-)

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Re: OT: Buffy (or not OT, depending on your point of view)

2001-02-08 Thread Merijn Broeren

Quoting Mark Fowler ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
 
 The one thing that gets me is that does anyone remember the trailer for
 this film?  I seem to remember this bit where Donald Sutherland throws a
 knife at Kirsy Swanson and she catches it between two palms in front
 of her head.  Now I didn't see this in the movie.  Does anyone else
 remember this?
 
This is normal for trailers of movies. I've worked in a cinema when I
was a student and was forcefed trailers, so couldn't help but noticing
it. Most US comedies have about 10 jokes, all of them in the trailer,
and about 8 in the actual movie. ;-)

There is a semi-valid reason for it, trailers are edited by different
people (apparently highly valued), and usually before the actual movie
is edited. Personally I try to avoid trailers and movie reviews, too many
spoilers. 

Cheers,
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Software Geek  |  thing and put it all together to see what it means.'
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Re: de-dupe a filesystem

2001-02-08 Thread Dean S Wilson

-Original Message-
From: Dave Hodgkinson [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Anyone got anything to hand that will spot massive duplications in a
filesystem? I've got a whole bunch of servers mirrored to a backup
server and it's be nice to identify where entire file trees have been
replicated...


You could run diff on the checksum files that tripwire makes. You do
tripwire your servers don't you? ;)

This came up on a list recently, I've never used it but it seems to
fit your problem. It looks like a trial version is available
http://www.veracity.com/apps_compremote.shtml

HTH
Dean
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Re: TT2 Question

2001-02-08 Thread Struan Donald

* at 08/02 13:00 -0500 Andy Williams said:
 I'm installing TT2.
 The problem. the installation says that I need XML::DOM ver 1.27
 installed
 
 I've hunted high and low but all I can find is version 1.25!
 
 Anyone know where I can get it?

libxml-enno is what you want.

struan



Re: OT: Buffy (or not OT, depending on your point of view)

2001-02-08 Thread David H. Adler

On Thu, Feb 08, 2001 at 10:19:39AM -, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 My point being that sometimes they make up exciting bits purely for the
 trailers. Hmmm, doesn't this count as false advertising?

Sometimes they do.  Hell, there's a great trailer for Monty Python and
the Holy Grail which features all kinds of things that were never
intended for inclusion in the actual film.

On the other hand, often trailers contain scenes that are excised
before the movie actually comes out.  I just noticed one in the
trailer for High Fidelity, and said "hm... that's not in the film",
but then saw it in one of the deleted scenes on the dvd.

My least favorite example of this was in the trailer for the Al Pacino
film Sea of Love - there was a scene in the trailer that raised issues
that were what made me really want to see the film... but that stuff
didn't actually make it into the film... :-/

dha

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Dada Dodo Does Four Char Word Ouli Perl

2001-02-08 Thread Simon Wistow

This'll probably mena nothing to you unless 

a) you were at the last London.pm technical meeting
b) hang around on #london.pm
c) are also on ( void )


but, because of sudden but temporary free time yesterday afternoon
(Nokia WTLS gateway was down and we couldn't test RC5 connections with
our WAP stack in case you care)  I knocked up a quick script using Mr
Clamp's Algorithm::Markov module, a bit of smoke and mirrors and Burton
Egbert Stevenson's 'The Home Book Of Verse, Volume 1' and came up with
something that generates poems consisting entirely of four character
words.

http://www.twoshortplanks.com/simon/four/



Fwd: SPUG: YAPC::Europe is 8/2-4 in Amsterdam

2001-02-08 Thread Neil Ford

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SPUGsters,

They've finally announced the details of YAPC Europe, at
http://www.yapc.org/Europe, and there are flights from Seattle
to Amsterdam for as little as $408 today, according to my Yahoo
fare-watching service!

The "Call for Participation" is attached.  See you there!

-Tim
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 European
Yet Another Perl Conference
 YAPC 2001

   http://www.yapc.org/Europe/

 Thursday-Saturday, August 2-4, 2001
   at the
 Hogeschool Holland
   Amsterdam, the Netherlands


  ** Abstract submission deadline:  June  1, 2001 **

Yet Another Perl Conference (YAPC) is an inexpensive ( 100 EURO) Perl
users and developers conference, with a mix of tutorials and
technical talks. The conference is set in Amsterdam, The Netherlands.

YAPC began as a grassroots users conference, from discussions
among Perl Mongers, and has grown from there.  We would like
to invite you to join us for three days of Perl, people, and
demonstrations, at a price that shouldn't hurt your wallet.
There will be a limit of around 500 people for the conference.

A number of members of the Perl community are contributing to this
event.

Look at the main web page for more details --
 http://www.yapc.org/Europe


   *** CALL FOR PAPERS ***

Potential presenters should submit a 200-300 word abstract to

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We would like your materials to be available online, but
that is not required.  If you have materials to include in
the proceedings, or course notes, please let us know of your
requirements in the abstract. If you have any special
presentation needs, please include them also.

The conference theme will be Security, so a portion of the the
talks will be about that subject in some way. So if you have some
knowledge of Perl related security issues, or use Perl in security
related areas, you're more then welcome to share this with fellow
Perl users at the conferece.

Suggestions :

*  writing secure Perl CGI programs
*  security bloopers
*  cryptography techniques
*  cryptography applications
*  security issues in past and coming versions of perl
*  How you use Perl to enhance security of your network or website
*  Modules useful in security
*  Whatever you find interesting that's Perl- and security related


A part of the time will be available for other Perl related subjects.
Suggestions for subjects:

*  Groupware, Agents, and Bots
*  Perl in the world of Windows
*  MacPerl
*  Perl for Speech and Language
*  Text and Document Processing
*  Machine Learning in Perl
*  HTML, XML, and Markup Languages
*  CGI and Web programming in Perl
*  Internet Programming
*  Database Interaction and Access with Perl
*  Scientific Computing (e.g. with PDL)
*  Practical Perl Programming
*  Module guts and usage on any particular Module.
*  Tutorials of all stripes: Modules, Objects, CPAN
*  Visionary or position papers on Perl, the past,
the present, and the future
*  Anything cool :)

We have the following time slots in our schedule, so your
contribution could have one of the following durations:

180 minute tutorials
90 minute talks
40 minute talks
25 minute talks
lightning talks (5 minutes)


Conference fees will be waived for presenters at yapc
(lightning talks excepted), so another way to reduce your
costs is to give a good talk on something you're excited about.


We are looking for sponsors. Please contact Liz and Eric
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