Dimsum Announcement Service
Hi, you have reached the dimsum announcement service. Dimsum will be served today at 12.30pm at the New World restaurant at 1 Gerrard Place in Chinatown. Piers and I will be there. You are all welcome to come, especially if you have any ideas on how to make my Parse::RecDescent parsers work faster. This call has cost you fourty squillion quid. Please call again! Leon -- Leon Brocard.http://www.astray.com/ yapc::Europehttp://yapc.org/Europe/ ... And now for something completely the same...
Re: Dimsum Announcement Service
At Fri, 16 Mar 2001 10:32:03 +, Leon Brocard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, you have reached the dimsum announcement service. Dimsum will be served today at 12.30pm at the New World restaurant at 1 Gerrard Place in Chinatown. Sorry. Too far from London Bridge. Piers and I will be there. You are all welcome to come, especially if you have any ideas on how to make my Parse::RecDescent parsers work faster. Use Parse::FastDescent - oh, wait, that's not written yet. Er... give Damian lots of money so he has lots of time to work on Parse::FastDescent... ah... already done that :) Use Parse::Yapp? This call has cost you fourty squillion quid. Please call again! Bargain! Dave...
Re: Dimsum Announcement Service
On Fri, 16 Mar 2001, you wrote: This call has cost you fourty squillion quid. Please call again! Bargain! ooh that reminds me .. there is a good scam going in the US .. you run a 'Investment information telephone service' .. which charges ~250 dollars a minute ... so obviously no one will use it .. so you send a bloke in a van round to every $BIG_CORP you can find with a parcel to be signed for by non existent person, personally. Since the person doesn't exist the guy asks the receptionist if he can use a phone to call back to the office .. apparently the number of $BIG_CORPs with unrestricted phone access at the reception desk makes this very worthwhile. -- Robin Szemeti The box said "requires windows 95 or better" So I installed Linux!
wasn't someone looking for some diagramming - SQL stuff recently?
http://freshmeat.net/projects/dia2sql/ jp
Re: wasn't someone looking for some diagramming - SQL stuff recently?
On Fri, 16 Mar 2001, James Powell wrote: http://freshmeat.net/projects/dia2sql/ I was looking for some tools to create diagrams with but Ooooh! Anyhow, now all we need is a GraphViz to dia tool ;-). Which reminds me, how's things going with your Perl-UML Aaron? Later. Mark. -- print "\n",map{my$a="\n"if(length$_6);' 'x(36-length($_)/2)."$_\n$a"} ( Name = 'Mark Fowler',Title = 'Technology Developer' , Firm = 'Profero Ltd',Web = 'http://www.profero.com/' , Email = '[EMAIL PROTECTED]', Phone = '+44 (0) 20 7700 9960' )
Re: Makemaker problems
At Fri, 16 Mar 2001 13:00:43 +, Simon Wistow [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a module which I'm trying to package in this directory structure ... [simon@2sp deploy]$ ls -R * Changes MANIFEST Makefile Makefile.PL test.pl Apache: Session/ Apache/Session: SharedMem.pm Store/ Apache/Session/Store: SharedMem.pm [simon@2sp deploy]$ But I can't seem to get Makefile.PL/MakeMaker to pick up Apache::Session::Store::SharedMem and install it. Any ideas? Yeah. IIRC you need to put secondary modules like that into a ./lib directory in order for them to be handled automatically. Oh, and make sure it's in the MANIFEST too. hth, Dave...
LWP::Simple
Does anybody know if LWP::Simple allow for un@pw:url convention? --james. PGP signature
Re: LWP::Simple
On Fri, Mar 16, 2001 at 01:38:41PM +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does anybody know if LWP::Simple allow for un@pw:url convention? oops un:pw@url -- James A. Duncan W: www.fotango.com P: +44 207 251 7021 F: +44 207 608 3592 PGP signature
Re: Makemaker problems
At Fri, 16 Mar 2001 08:07:28 -0500 (EST), I wrote: At Fri, 16 Mar 2001 13:00:43 +, Simon Wistow [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a module which I'm trying to package in this directory structure ... [simon@2sp deploy]$ ls -R * Changes MANIFEST Makefile Makefile.PL test.pl Apache: Session/ Apache/Session: SharedMem.pm Store/ Apache/Session/Store: SharedMem.pm [simon@2sp deploy]$ But I can't seem to get Makefile.PL/MakeMaker to pick up Apache::Session::Store::SharedMem and install it. Any ideas? Yeah. IIRC you need to put secondary modules like that into a ./lib directory in order for them to be handled automatically. Oh, and make sure it's in the MANIFEST too. Knew this sounded familiar. If you want an examlpe of this, see the Symbol::Approx::Sub 2.0 Beta that's available at http://www.dave.org.uk/modules/ That uses exactly this method. Dave...
Re: Makemaker problems
On Fri, 16 Mar 2001, you wrote: But I can't seem to get Makefile.PL/MakeMaker to pick up Apache::Session::Store::SharedMem and install it. I'm new to this makemaker thing ... but doncha have to put the stuff you wanna install in a ./lib directory ? ie ./lib/Apache/Session/Store/SharedMem/HelperClass.pm or whtever apart from the base class which you just put in the root ie move ./Apache/Session/Store/SharedMem.pm to ./ and make sure it has the full package name. perl Makefile.pl and make manifgest again .. and that might work -- Robin Szemeti The box said "requires windows 95 or better" So I installed Linux!
Re: LWP::Simple
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does anybody know if LWP::Simple allow for un@pw:url convention? For FTP URLs? Or HTTP URLs? Or what? For FTP URLs: don't know. For HTTP URLs: no such thing. (NB: just because MSIE or insert browser of choice parses such URLs doesn't mean they exist in any standard. "www.perl.com" isn't an URL, either, for that matter.) Cheers, Philip -- Philip Newton [EMAIL PROTECTED] All opinions are my own, not my employer's. If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate.
Re: LWP::Simple
On Fri, Mar 16, 2001 at 01:38:41PM +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does anybody know if LWP::Simple allow for un@pw:url convention? Yes it does. Wouldn't it have been quicker to try it than to write that message? ;-) .robin. -- Flee to me, remote elf!
Re: LWP::Simple
On Fri, 16 Mar 2001, Robin Houston wrote: On Fri, Mar 16, 2001 at 02:44:30PM +0100, Philip Newton wrote: For FTP URLs: don't know. For HTTP URLs: no such thing. Technically you're right. LWP does support it though. And so does every other user agent in the universe, pretty much; so you'd have to be a pretty severe standards pedant to say there was no such thing ;-) Lynx doesn't. MBM -- Matthew Byng-Maddick Home: [EMAIL PROTECTED] +44 20 8980 5714 (Home) http://colondot.net/ Work: [EMAIL PROTECTED] +44 7956 613942 (Mobile) Amoebit: Amoeba/rabbit cross; it can multiply and divide at the same time.
Re: Version control
On Mon Mar 12 21:45:34 2001, Jim Gillespie wrote: Does ClearCase work with anything but Solaris? I was talking to my current boss and he reckons it needs a patched kernel in order to do funky stuff with the file system. I've used it on AIX. -- Marty
Re: LWP::Simple
On Fri, Mar 16, 2001 at 01:50:31PM +, Robin Houston wrote: On Fri, Mar 16, 2001 at 01:38:41PM +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does anybody know if LWP::Simple allow for un@pw:url convention? Yes it does. Wouldn't it have been quicker to try it than to write that message? ;-) Well, yes, normally. I was already reasonably sure that LWP::Simple did support that notation, but I was seeing 401's in return, which was making wonder if it wasn't supported. Convoluted Explanation? Yes. Frustrating? Definitly. Now I have to go away and figure out where it is having a problem. I know that the UN/PW combination is correct, but alas no joy. Ah well. --james. PGP signature
Re: LWP::Simple
Robin Houston wrote: And so does every other user agent in the universe, pretty much; so you'd have to be a pretty severe standards pedant to say there was no such thing ;-) Well, isn't being precise part of being a programmer? "Pedantic" is basically just "precise", only a little more extreme. But "you can't just make sh*t up and expect the computer to understand what you want, Retardo!"[1] -- standards *do* serve a purpose and referring to them can be helpful. Cheers, Philip [1] rough quotation, from memory, of MJD -- Philip Newton [EMAIL PROTECTED] All opinions are my own, not my employer's. If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate.
Re: [Need] A Perl HTML to Text converter
On Fri, Mar 16, 2001 at 08:07:39AM -0500, Andy Williams wrote: Does anyone know of a HTML to Text converter written in Perl? It'll need to be able to format tables!! I normally use lynx to do it but it doesn't handle tables very well :( It's not Perl, but try using w3m instead. It's a far superior text mode browser. Lynx is from the stone age. :-) http://www.w3m.org/ -Dom
Re: LWP::Simple
On Fri, Mar 16, 2001 at 02:59:13PM +0100, Philip Newton wrote: Well, isn't being precise part of being a programmer? "Pedantic" is basically just "precise", only a little more extreme. But "you can't just make sh*t up and expect the computer to understand what you want, Retardo!"[1] -- standards *do* serve a purpose and referring to them can be helpful. Yeah, I suppose so. And I'm certainly capable of being pedantic myself, as I'm sure others here can attest :-) Standards evolve though, and they evolve based on the way that they're used in the real world. They're not infallible scriptures. When we're talking about an *extension* to the standard which is - compatible with the basic standard - very very widely implemented - simple and obvious we should be trying to get the "standard" improved IMO, rather than saying "Don't use it, it's not standard". This is how we make progress. .robin. -- Beware. The paranoids are watching you.
Re: [Need] A Perl HTML to Text converter
On Fri, 16 Mar 2001, Dominic Mitchell wrote: On Fri, Mar 16, 2001 at 08:07:39AM -0500, Andy Williams wrote: Does anyone know of a HTML to Text converter written in Perl? It'll need to be able to format tables!! I normally use lynx to do it but it doesn't handle tables very well :( It's not Perl, but try using w3m instead. It's a far superior text mode browser. Lynx is from the stone age. :-) http://www.w3m.org/ -Dom Thanks Dom, I'll give it a try. Andy
Re: LWP::Simple
On Fri, 16 Mar 2001, Philip Newton wrote: Matthew Byng-Maddick wrote: On Fri, 16 Mar 2001, Robin Houston wrote: And so does every other user agent in the universe, pretty much; so you'd have to be a pretty severe standards pedant to say there was no such thing ;-) Lynx doesn't. IIRC, it does, sort of -- it uses username:password as basic authentication but doesn't strip them off when sending the "Host:" header, which confuses some web servers. In other words, it supports them in a different way to everything else. :) Standards are great when there are so many to choose from. Personally, I'd say that's "not supporting them". But hey... :) MBM -- Matthew Byng-Maddick Home: [EMAIL PROTECTED] +44 20 8980 5714 (Home) http://colondot.net/ Work: [EMAIL PROTECTED] +44 7956 613942 (Mobile) Amoebit: Amoeba/rabbit cross; it can multiply and divide at the same time.
Re: [Need] A Perl HTML to Text converter
On Fri, Mar 16, 2001 at 08:07:39AM -0500, Andy Williams wrote: Does anyone know of a HTML to Text converter written in Perl? It'll need to be able to format tables!! I normally use lynx to do it but it doesn't handle tables very well :( w3m? links? -- David Cantrell | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://www.cantrell.org.uk/david/ This is a signature. There are many like it but this one is mine. ** I read encrypted mail first, so encrypt if your message is important ** PGP signature
Re: Matt's Scripts - Rand image..
Hi Guys, I've created a random image generator (not Matt complient) that I needed for a friend. Please feel fee to put it in the collection. This is not the same as those which daveh is writting, main difference is it doesn't have configuration files or code! http://totoro.cuckoo.org/rand_image.txt Thanks to the folks on IRC for some tidying ideas. Cheers Leo
Re: [Need] A Perl HTML to Text converter
On Fri, Mar 16, 2001 at 02:14:02PM +, Rob Partington wrote: In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Dominic Mitchell [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: It's not Perl, but try using w3m instead. It's a far superior text mode browser. Lynx is from the stone age. :-) insert standard rant about this meme For or against? I'd like to hear it... I'm very happy with w3m. -Dom
Re: Matt's Scripts - Rand image..
Leo Lapworth [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: This is not the same as those which daveh is writting, main difference is it doesn't have configuration files or code! Ah. This is probably a good time to back out. One of the other Daves beat me to it, and far better than I would have done it and I've got my VAT to do before I go to Tokyo. I'll buy whoever _does_ do mine a beer or two at the next pm meeting we're both at. -- Dave Hodgkinson, http://www.hodgkinson.org Editor-in-chief, The Highway Star http://www.deep-purple.com Interim CTO, web server farms, technical strategy