Re: Debuggers (was Re: Perl Training Courses)
On Thu, Mar 22, 2001 at 06:09:19AM -0500, Dave Cross wrote: Let me explain the set-up. I have a PC running Win95. OK, so the contract market's gone to the dogs. Paul
Re: Debuggers (was Re: Perl Training Courses)
At Thu, 22 Mar 2001 09:37:39 + (GMT), Mark Fowler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 2001, Mar, 21, Cross, Dave wrote: And how about: a decent Perl debugger (that also happens to be free). You have a decent Perl debugger. It's called perl -d. Eugh. perl -d:ptkdb please. Yeah. Now use that when you only have telnet access to your development system :-/ Now with added pointy and clickyness. Now with added Ludditeness. Dave...
Re: Debuggers (was Re: Perl Training Courses)
On 2001, Mar, 22, Thu, Cross, Dave wrote:
Now with added pointy and clickyness.
Now with added Ludditeness.
Dave.
Luddite n 1 : any opponent of technological progress [syn: {Luddite}]
2: one of the 19th century English workman who destroyed labor-saving
machinery that they thought would cause unemployment [syn: {Luddite}]
You're sounding a little too much like a heretic to me Dave...all that
crashing and destroying of stuff ;-)
Later.
Mark.
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Name = 'Mark Fowler',Title = 'Technology Developer' ,
Firm = 'Profero Ltd',Web = 'http://www.profero.com/' ,
Email = '[EMAIL PROTECTED]', Phone = '+44 (0) 20 7700 9960' )
Re: Debuggers (was Re: Perl Training Courses)
Dave Cross [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: At Thu, 22 Mar 2001 09:37:39 + (GMT), Mark Fowler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 2001, Mar, 21, Cross, Dave wrote: And how about: a decent Perl debugger (that also happens to be free). You have a decent Perl debugger. It's called perl -d. Eugh. perl -d:ptkdb please. Yeah. Now use that when you only have telnet access to your development system :-/ Not even ssh? Now with added pointy and clickyness. Now with added Ludditeness. Dave... -- Dave Hodgkinson, http://www.hodgkinson.org Editor-in-chief, The Highway Star http://www.deep-purple.com Interim CTO, web server farms, technical strategy
Re: Debuggers (was Re: Perl Training Courses)
On Thu, 22 Mar 2001, Dave Cross wrote: Oh, it's not me - it's the environment I'm currently working in. Dave... [not a Luddite] I can vouch for that REALLY bad environment!! Andy [Not a Luddite either]
Re: Debuggers (was Re: Perl Training Courses)
On Thu, Mar 22, 2001 at 04:45:57AM -0500, Dave Cross wrote: You have a decent Perl debugger. It's called perl -d. Eugh. perl -d:ptkdb please. Yeah. Now use that when you only have telnet access to your development system :-/ Not even an ssh connection? Now with added pointy and clickyness. Now with added Ludditeness. Wait till Activestate get their IDE's out for Linux and the plugin for Visual Studio... I can't wait. Dean -- Profanity is the one language all programmers understand --- Anon
Re: Debuggers (was Re: Perl Training Courses)
At 22 Mar 2001 09:02:31 +, Dave Hodgkinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dave Cross [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: At Thu, 22 Mar 2001 09:37:39 + (GMT), Mark Fowler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 2001, Mar, 21, Cross, Dave wrote: And how about: a decent Perl debugger (that also happens to be free). You have a decent Perl debugger. It's called perl -d. Eugh. perl -d:ptkdb please. Yeah. Now use that when you only have telnet access to your development system :-/ Not even ssh? Not sure they can even spell 'ssh' here :) Let me explain the set-up. I have a PC running Win95. I access a number of IBM AIX machines using putty. When I first joined, I asked about the possibility of getting Exceed installed, but was told that having an X server on a PC would generate too much network traffic. All external internet requests from the PCs go thru a bastard fascist filtering proxy. Only HTTP and email gets out as far as I can see. The firewall around the AIX boxes is even worse. Nothing gets thru unless you've asked the network people to put a specific hole in the firewall. Oh, and there's no external DNS on these boxes so you can only access stuff if you know the IP address. Grrr Dave...
Re: Debuggers (was Re: Perl Training Courses)
On Thu, Mar 22, 2001 at 06:09:19AM -0500, Dave Cross wrote: Not sure they can even spell 'ssh' here :) Let me explain the set-up. I have a PC running Win95. I access a number of IBM AIX machines using putty. When I first joined, I asked about the possibility of getting Exceed installed, but was told that having an X server on a PC would generate too much network traffic. All external internet requests from the PCs go thru a bastard fascist filtering proxy. Only HTTP and email gets out as far as I can see. The firewall around the AIX boxes is even worse. Nothing gets thru unless you've asked the network people to put a specific hole in the firewall. Oh, and there's no external DNS on these boxes so you can only access stuff if you know the IP address. Sounds like you need httptunnel: http://www.nocrew.org/software/httptunnel/ I'm not sure it works on '95, but they do appear to have an NT binary. I think you need to set up a connection point in the Internet at large as well (a shell box should do). I'm not terribly certain, because I've never used it, but I have heard good things about it. It might be worth investigating. -Dom
Re: Debuggers (was Re: Perl Training Courses)
On Thu, Mar 22, 2001 at 10:36:01AM +, Dean wrote: Wait till Activestate get their IDE's out for Linux It's already out, I thought. Needs Perl and Python and all sorts of bits and pieces installed. -- People who love sausages, respect the law, and work with IT standards shouldn't watch any of them being made. - Peter Gutmann
