Re: London.pm List Weekly Summary 2001-02-12

2001-02-16 Thread pmh

On 16 Feb 2001 11:31:06 +, Steve Mynott wrote:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> 
> > For someone who's never used IRC at all, it's particularly annoying. I'm no
> > Luddite though, I was using Cheeseplant's house over a decade ago, and wrote
> > my own chat system, but just never got round to IRC.
> 
> I was on Cheeseplant's House as well!
> 
> I recently noticed the source was out
> 
> http://www.cheeseplant.org/~daniel/pages/cph.html
> 
> which chat system did you write?

It was a pretty simple local-access-only system, which was only ever used at Bristol 
University. It did have multiple channels, nicknames, private messages and a man page, 
though.

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Re: London.pm List Weekly Summary 2001-02-12

2001-02-16 Thread Steve Mynott

[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

> For someone who's never used IRC at all, it's particularly annoying. I'm no
> Luddite though, I was using Cheeseplant's house over a decade ago, and wrote
> my own chat system, but just never got round to IRC.

I was on Cheeseplant's House as well!

I recently noticed the source was out

http://www.cheeseplant.org/~daniel/pages/cph.html

which chat system did you write?

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Re: London.pm List Weekly Summary 2001-02-12

2001-02-16 Thread pmh

On Wed, 14 Feb 2001 17:02:36 +, Leon Brocard wrote:
> And finally, dumrats used naughty words and got attacked by a daemon:
> http://www.mail-archive.com/london-pm%40lists.dircon.co.uk/msg02186.html

Finally, due to this and other contextual clues, I've figured out who some of
these IRC names apply to.

> This london-list weekly summary has been brought to you with IRC
> nicknames instead of, err, real names. This is just an experiment - we
> reckon it's a bit silly and more confusing. What do you reckon?

For someone who's never used IRC at all, it's particularly annoying. I'm no
Luddite though, I was using Cheeseplant's house over a decade ago, and wrote
my own chat system, but just never got round to IRC.

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Re: London.pm List Weekly Summary 2001-02-12

2001-02-15 Thread Dave Hodgkinson

Robin Houston <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> On Thu, Feb 15, 2001 at 10:17:42AM +0100, Philip Newton wrote:
> > [...] summaries of #london.pm traffic :)
> 
> Now _there's_ an idea :-)
> 
> Is anyone feeling really, really bored?

No, but I'm getting hungry...

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Re: London.pm List Weekly Summary 2001-02-12

2001-02-15 Thread Philip Newton

Robin Houston wrote:
> On Thu, Feb 15, 2001 at 10:17:42AM +0100, Philip Newton wrote:
> > [...] summaries of #london.pm traffic :)
> 
> Now _there's_ an idea :-)
> 
> Is anyone feeling really, really bored?

Isn't 30% of the traffic of the type " for cream nauseous disgrace
extensibility"? :-)

Cheers,
Philip



Re: London.pm List Weekly Summary 2001-02-12

2001-02-15 Thread Robin Houston

On Thu, Feb 15, 2001 at 10:17:42AM +0100, Philip Newton wrote:
> [...] summaries of #london.pm traffic :)

Now _there's_ an idea :-)

Is anyone feeling really, really bored?

 .robin.



Re: London.pm List Weekly Summary 2001-02-12

2001-02-15 Thread Robin Szemeti


> This london-list weekly summary has been brought to you with IRC
> nicknames instead of, err, real names. This is just an experiment - we
> reckon it's a bit silly and more confusing. What do you reckon?

hmmm .. dunno .. you start off ok with 'blech' but then go on to use the
same name spelt the same way on subsequent uses. surely it would make
more sense to change one character each time in a humorous fashion.

just my GBP 0.02 worth ( ~ 8.67 EUR at current exchange rates )

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Re: London.pm List Weekly Summary 2001-02-12

2001-02-15 Thread Philip Newton

acme wrote:
> This london-list weekly summary has been brought to you with IRC
> nicknames instead of, err, real names. This is just an experiment - we
> reckon it's a bit silly and more confusing. What do you reckon?

I didn't know who "dumrats" was but it didn't take long to figure out.

Whether IRC names or "real" names are used depends, I suppose, on what you
know each other by.

However, I imagine if the weekly summaries are intended for the readers of
the list, using the names people use on the list might be better. Use IRC
names for summaries of #london.pm traffic :)

Just my EUR 0.02,

Cheers,
Philip
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London.pm List Weekly Summary 2001-02-12

2001-02-14 Thread Leon Brocard

This is the fourth of hopefully many weekly summaries of the London
Perl Mongers mailing list. The list has grown so popular (a hundred
messages a day is not uncommon) that I think this is
necessary. Comments welcome. For the week starting 2001-02-12:

Don't forget the London.pm website for meetings etc. The next meeting
is a technical meeting on Thursday, February 22th when Matt Sergeant
(baud) will be talking about AxKit (this will be hosted by those nice
people at Torrington).
http://www.mail-archive.com/london-pm%40lists.dircon.co.uk/msg02139.html

Fine. Fine. Fine. I've been asked to point out the following by
dumrats: "london.pm meetings happen on the day after the first
wednesday of the month - some misinformed people may have meetings on
the 1st of the month occasionally, but what can i say? they are just
crazy!". I don't think davorg would quite agree...

Briac Pilpre, a fellow Perl Monger from Paris.pm, came over to London
and davorg called Yet Another Emergency Meeting in his honour. Lots of
Perl was discussed, honest. Emergency meetings are currently one a
week or so. One day we might talk about Perl.
http://www.mail-archive.com/london-pm%40lists.dircon.co.uk/msg02136.html

blech is now taking over from dumrats and will be organising a trip
for around a dozen London.pm-ers to New York city. He's calling it an
invasion, but I'm sure he means well. dha and muttley may well help
organise. It'll be fun if we carry this off as NY.pm visited London a
while back and it was great.
http://www.mail-archive.com/london-pm%40lists.dircon.co.uk/msg02162.html
http://www.mail-archive.com/london-pm%40lists.dircon.co.uk/msg02167.html

simonwilcox asked about Perl / LAMP advocacy as he has a new IT
director with plans to standardise on ASP. dumrats suggested detailed
productivity and cost analysis models instead of an "it's better"
argument. All the usual arguments were brought up.
http://www.mail-archive.com/london-pm%40lists.dircon.co.uk/msg02191.html

rszemeti brought up the issue of XP unit testing. Testing is one of
the corner stones of extreme programming (and one which Perl and CPAN
is well known for), and I'd suggest using the Test / Test::Harness
modules. It turns out that the Test::Unit module on CPAN is
"suboptimal", but luckily pdcawley is working on it.
http://www.mail-archive.com/london-pm%40lists.dircon.co.uk/msg02208.html
http://www.extremeprogramming.org/rules/unittests.html
http://search.cpan.org/search?dist=Test-Unit

daveh asked anyone had any opinion on VA Linux machines. Everyone was
very positive (well, they do have blue LEDs) and they apparently have
good tech support (unlike Dell).
http://www.mail-archive.com/london-pm%40lists.dircon.co.uk/msg02206.html
http://www.valinux.com/

And finally, dumrats used naughty words and got attacked by a daemon:
http://www.mail-archive.com/london-pm%40lists.dircon.co.uk/msg02186.html

This london-list weekly summary has been brought to you with IRC
nicknames instead of, err, real names. This is just an experiment - we
reckon it's a bit silly and more confusing. What do you reckon?

Leon
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