Re: Torvalds not impressed with OS X
Jonathan Stowe [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Mon, 9 Apr 2001, Chris Devers wrote: At 08:22 AM 9.4.2001 +, Robin Szemeti wrote: personally the ultimate task of any minimise/restore function should be to get a window on or off the dispaly as fast as possible ... slowly attempting some graphical wizardry whilst chewing up CPU resources its not one of the things I lust after .. but YMMV :) Alternate genie effects [for OSX] The "genie effect" is what happens when you click the yellow "minimize" button. You'll see your window get sucked down into the dock, as though it were being drawn into a funnel. While quite cool the first few times, some people (me!) have found it a little annoying after a while. Those with slower machines may also find it something of a CPU hog. Luckily, Apple included a way to change the genie effect, but chose not to put it into a GUI tool at this time. I'm sure someone will have one written within a week, but for now, here's how you do it. Open a terminal session (the Terminal application is inside Applications/Utilities), and type one of the following: defaults write com.apple.Dock mineffect genie Java !!? More likely netinfo. -- Piers
Re: Torvalds not impressed with OS X
On Sat, 07 Apr 2001, you wrote: On Sat, Apr 07, 2001 at 08:30:07AM +0100, Rob Partington wrote: I mostly like MacOS X, but it is way too resource hungry. I shouldn't need 64M to run a GUI and Unix comfortably, that's just crap. It's not just *any* GUI though, it's a GUI that does genie-in-a-bottle minimise/restore! Oh yes! hmm .. a bit too windows 98 for me I'm afraid .. personally the ultimate task of any minimise/restore function should be to get a window on or off the dispaly as fast as possible ... slowly attempting some graphical wizardry whilst chewing up CPU resources its not one of the things I lust after .. but YMMV :) Thats one of my big dislikes about KDE .. the damm thing attempts to do some silly 'shrink' on a window outline as it minimises it .. when all I really want it to do is just clear off as fast as possible ... at least the menus appear instantly -- Robin Szemeti The box said "requires windows 95 or better" So I installed Linux!
Re: Torvalds not impressed with OS X
On Mon, Apr 09, 2001 at 08:22:39AM +, Robin Szemeti wrote: On Sat, 07 Apr 2001, you wrote: On Sat, Apr 07, 2001 at 08:30:07AM +0100, Rob Partington wrote: I mostly like MacOS X, but it is way too resource hungry. I shouldn't need 64M to run a GUI and Unix comfortably, that's just crap. It's not just *any* GUI though, it's a GUI that does genie-in-a-bottle minimise/restore! Oh yes! hmm .. a bit too windows 98 for me I'm afraid .. Oi! Watch it! That's grounds for a kicking almost :-) personally the ultimate task of any minimise/restore function should be to get a window on or off the dispaly as fast as possible ... slowly attempting some graphical wizardry whilst chewing up CPU resources its not one of the things I lust after .. but YMMV :) It should be pointed out that a lot, if not all, of Mac OS X's graphical wizardry can be turned off, although admittedly Apple haven't necessarily included the tools to do so by default. But then as I keep saying, Mac OS X is a consumer OS especially to idi^H^H^Hmummies and daddies! The slow-mo genie effect whlst playing a quicktime movie (fast processors only need apply!) is a nice demonstration feature. At consumer evens it gets lots of ooohs and ahhhs. It however in't something that most same people would use day to day. Neil. -- Neil C. Ford Managing Director, Yet Another Computer Solutions Company Limites [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.yacsc.com
Re: Torvalds not impressed with OS X
At 08:22 AM 9.4.2001 +, Robin Szemeti wrote: personally the ultimate task of any minimise/restore function should be to get a window on or off the dispaly as fast as possible ... slowly attempting some graphical wizardry whilst chewing up CPU resources its not one of the things I lust after .. but YMMV :) Alternate genie effects [for OSX] The "genie effect" is what happens when you click the yellow "minimize" button. You'll see your window get sucked down into the dock, as though it were being drawn into a funnel. While quite cool the first few times, some people (me!) have found it a little annoying after a while. Those with slower machines may also find it something of a CPU hog. Luckily, Apple included a way to change the genie effect, but chose not to put it into a GUI tool at this time. I'm sure someone will have one written within a week, but for now, here's how you do it. Open a terminal session (the Terminal application is inside Applications/Utilities), and type one of the following: defaults write com.apple.Dock mineffect genie defaults write com.apple.Dock mineffect suck defaults write com.apple.Dock mineffect scale The "genie" option is normal behavior, "suck" is sort of hard to describe but it's more like a reverse twisted genie, and "scale" (my personal favorite) simply reduces the window equally from all sides while dropping it to the dock. The other nice thing about "scale" is that it's blindingly fast (on my G4/350, while the genie lags a bit), so windows vanish very quickly. http://www.macosxhints.com/article.php?story=20010324091350279 Sounds like you want the 'scale' option. Playing around with this defaults command seems to be just a command line interface to corresponding xml config files, most of which seem to live in ~/Library/Preferences or /System/Library/Preferences, and most of which seem to have a .plist suffix. I haven't had the time to go very far with these, but it seems like you can control most of the behavior of the GUI from these config files if you know what you're doing. -- Chris Devers [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Torvalds not impressed with OS X
On Mon, 9 Apr 2001, Chris Devers wrote: At 08:22 AM 9.4.2001 +, Robin Szemeti wrote: personally the ultimate task of any minimise/restore function should be to get a window on or off the dispaly as fast as possible ... slowly attempting some graphical wizardry whilst chewing up CPU resources its not one of the things I lust after .. but YMMV :) Alternate genie effects [for OSX] The "genie effect" is what happens when you click the yellow "minimize" button. You'll see your window get sucked down into the dock, as though it were being drawn into a funnel. While quite cool the first few times, some people (me!) have found it a little annoying after a while. Those with slower machines may also find it something of a CPU hog. Luckily, Apple included a way to change the genie effect, but chose not to put it into a GUI tool at this time. I'm sure someone will have one written within a week, but for now, here's how you do it. Open a terminal session (the Terminal application is inside Applications/Utilities), and type one of the following: defaults write com.apple.Dock mineffect genie Java !!? /J\
Re: Torvalds not impressed with OS X
On Mon, Apr 09, 2001 at 05:03:35PM -0400, Chris Devers wrote: [snip] Luckily, Apple included a way to change the genie effect, but chose not to put it into a GUI tool at this time. I'm sure someone will have one written within a week, but for now, here's how you do it. Open a terminal session (the Terminal [snip] Look for TinkerTool, GUI front-end not only to do this but to allow you to show the hidden directories in the Finder, put the Trash on the desktop, change the transprancy of Terminal windows and a whole lot more. Look on VersionTracker (http://www.versiontracker.com) or Stepwise (http://www.stepwise.com) for the latest version. Neil -- Neil C. Ford Managing Director, Yet Another Computer Solutions Company Limited [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.yacsc.com
Re: Torvalds not impressed with OS X
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Paul Makepeace [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: http://www.msnbc.com/news/555930.asp Not really surprising news, though, since he was fighting with Tannenbaum in 1991 about whether micro-kernels were worth the bother or not. I mostly like MacOS X, but it is way too resource hungry. I shouldn't need 64M to run a GUI and Unix comfortably, that's just crap. -- rob partington % [EMAIL PROTECTED] % http://lynx.browser.org/
Re: Torvalds not impressed with OS X
Paul Makepeace [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: http://www.msnbc.com/news/555930.asp Sadly, lacking on details. Paul, who still likes it. Certainly from the play I had with it at Neil's, it looks pretty good. Now, if I can just get someone to give me a G4 Titanium PowerBook I'll actually have something to run on it. -- Piers
Re: Torvalds not impressed with OS X
Piers Cawley [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] quoth: * *Certainly from the play I had with it at Neil's, it looks pretty good. *Now, if I can just get someone to give me a G4 Titanium PowerBook I'll *actually have something to run on it. I have a Ti book and it seems resource hungry even on that. It consumes 2GB of disk space which even solaris hasn't managaed to do yet. I have 380+ MB RAM and I find it very slow on launching OS 9 or 'classic' applications and my mouse pointer goes missing every now and then when it wakes up from sleep. I still find most GUIs cumbersome so OS X has done nothing for me to dissuade me from thinking I'd be happier with NetBSD. I find the urge to lick the screen most disturbing. Until there are more compelling reasons to use OS X, other than it looks smart on your desktop, I don't think it will be very readily adopted. SUSE PPC Linux installs much more easily and is faster with less candy. It will be interesting to see how OS X evolves in the next year or so. In spite of my dissatisfaction with the OS itself, I'm happy to see Apple bringing the power of unix to the desktop and I'll hope in a year or two that it will be compelling to upgrade. e.
Torvalds not impressed with OS X
http://www.msnbc.com/news/555930.asp Sadly, lacking on details. Paul, who still likes it.
