Re: LPRng: messages in printer display
From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tue Dec 11 06:56:23 2001 Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2001 08:43:37 -0500 From: Joseph Formoso [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: LPRng: messages in printer display On Mon, 10 Dec 2001, Patrick Powell wrote: I bet the 'processing from tray X' is caused by the ifhp sending explicit 'tray selection' commands to prevent the *())(* students^H^H^H^H^H^Husers sending jobs that set the default tray selection to some other tray, so that the following jobs all get the wrong paper. -- Hey, speaking of which: how, exactly, do I suppress users' (I would have put students', but professors do it too) ability to set an alternate paper type? We have people who keep sending jobs that request manual feeds, which clog up the queues overnight (always overnight -- nobody ever does this at, say, 10AM when there's someone here who will notice). On a related note, when a queue gets stuck like this, all the rest of the jobs in the queue vanish down a black hole. I'm not sure why, and I've posted about it before (though a couple of very hectic weeks could have caused me to miss a response) -- I would assume that, if the printer gets jammed (or otherwise stopped up), the jobs would sit in the queue until the printer unjammed. The printers in question are HP 8100's, set in a pool queue thuswise: The problem is probably with PCL jobs. You need to rip out the small piece of PCL code that is setting the tray selection to manual. The problem here is that you are looking for an escape sequence PostScript jobs are much simpler - you check to see if they are setting manual feed (grep) and then rip it out... or trash the job. Patrick # laser|ans|LASER|las|ps|lps|:\ :sd=/var/spool/lpd/hp8100pool:\ :sv=hp8100a,hp8100b hp8100a|first:\ :rw:\ :mx=0:\ :bp=/usr/local/libexec/filters/psbanner:\ :lp=IP.ADDRESS%9100:\ :af=hp.acct:\ :lf=hp.log:\ :filter=/usr/local/libexec/filters/ifhp:\ :ifhp=model=hp8100:\ :sd=/var/spool/lpd/hp8100a:\ :ss=hp8100pool hp8100b|second:\ :rw:\ :mx=0:\ :bp=/usr/local/libexec/filters/psbanner:\ :lp=IP.ADDRESS%9100:\ :af=hp.acct:\ :lf=hp.log:\ :filter=/usr/local/libexec/filters/ifhp:\ :ifhp=model=hp8100:\ :sd=/var/spool/lpd/hp8100b:\ :ss=hp8100pool # Oh, and since I'm piling up random questions anyway: what's the standard and approved method for selecting the banner sheet from an alternate tray? We've modified psbanner to switch trays, and it works, but I'm sure there's a less kludgey way to do it. Sorry to ramble; thanks large for any assistance. --Joe - Joe Formoso ([EMAIL PROTECTED]), Senior Systems Administrator, IT Department, Stevens Institute of Technology - YOU MUST BE A LIST MEMBER IN ORDER TO POST TO THE LPRNG MAILING LIST The address you post from MUST be your subscription address If you need help, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] (or lprng-requests or lprng-digest-requests) with the word 'help' in the body. For the impatient, to subscribe to a list with name LIST, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with: | example: subscribe LIST mailaddr | subscribe lprng-digest [EMAIL PROTECTED] unsubscribe LIST mailaddr | unsubscribe lprng [EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have major problems, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word LPRNGLIST in the SUBJECT line. - - YOU MUST BE A LIST MEMBER IN ORDER TO POST TO THE LPRNG MAILING LIST The address you post from MUST be your subscription address If you need help, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] (or lprng-requests or lprng-digest-requests) with the word 'help' in the body. For the impatient, to subscribe to a list with name LIST, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with: | example: subscribe LIST mailaddr | subscribe lprng-digest [EMAIL PROTECTED] unsubscribe LIST mailaddr | unsubscribe lprng [EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have major problems, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word LPRNGLIST in the SUBJECT line. -
Re: LPRng: messages in printer display
David W. Taylor wrote:
Patrick Powell wrote:
From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mon Nov 26 10:45:39 2001
Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2001 12:45:08 -0500 (EST)
From: Ryan Novosielski [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: Re: LPRng: messages in printer display
This isn't exactly the problem -- the problem is I *like* the \%s{n}...,
and instead I am getting PROCESSING JOB FROM TRAY 2 which is something
the printer is saying. This is not useful information to me.
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It looks like whenever there is a PostScript command in the data file
to select trays that the HP5 will display the current tray...
Just my suspicion now, based on 1 trial with 1 document using 'manual feed'
Patrick
I get similar results! It has something to do with the tray select
command because I have an old Sunos system that does not do the message
but is tray selecting,,, But my Solaris box does the so and so to tray
whatever. My sunos box gens Postscript level 1,,, I havn't figured
what teh SOlaris postscript level is but if it ties in I'll be back.
Dave
Ok I found it,,, i think. On my old Sun OS box i'm running
hpnp form good old HP. My system is generating Postscript
and sending it to the 5SI. On my New shiny Solaris Ultra I'm running
lprng/IFHP and it generates PCL for the 5SI. PCL jobs trigger the
display
information and PS jobs don't.
David Taylor
Printer victim at large.
You do realise I have OTHER work to do than fix printing Right?
(ME)
Huh?? (Customer/User/.)
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Re: LPRng: messages in printer display
From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tue Dec 4 18:59:49 2001 Date: Tue, 4 Dec 2001 20:44:56 -0500 (EST) From: Ryan Novosielski [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: LPRng: messages in printer display Yeah, I've noticed that it actually does seem to be the fault of LPRng/ifhp because this latest version that I installed on both of my campus hosts has made ALL printers say PROCESSING JOB FROM TRAY X rather than the original message, which was the username, rather than just the 2 new ones. _ _ _ _ ___ _ _ _ |Y#| | | |\/| | \ |\ | | | Ryan Novosielski - Jr. UNIX Systems Admin |$| |__| | | |__/ | \| _| | [EMAIL PROTECTED] - 732/235.4473 (5-4473) \__/ Univ. of Med. and Dent. | IST/ACS - Robert Wood Johnson MS - S-B11 OK, people complain about not getting error/status messages. So I fix this. Then people complain about getting messages about the tray being used. Sigh... I bet the 'processing from tray X' is caused by the ifhp sending explicit 'tray selection' commands to prevent the *())(* students^H^H^H^H^H^Husers sending jobs that set the default tray selection to some other tray, so that the following jobs all get the wrong paper. GR I wonder if there is a way to suppress putting the messages on the console. Patrick - YOU MUST BE A LIST MEMBER IN ORDER TO POST TO THE LPRNG MAILING LIST The address you post from MUST be your subscription address If you need help, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] (or lprng-requests or lprng-digest-requests) with the word 'help' in the body. For the impatient, to subscribe to a list with name LIST, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with: | example: subscribe LIST mailaddr | subscribe lprng-digest [EMAIL PROTECTED] unsubscribe LIST mailaddr | unsubscribe lprng [EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have major problems, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word LPRNGLIST in the SUBJECT line. -
Re: LPRng: messages in printer display
Patrick Powell wrote:
From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mon Nov 26 10:45:39 2001
Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2001 12:45:08 -0500 (EST)
From: Ryan Novosielski [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: LPRng: messages in printer display
This isn't exactly the problem -- the problem is I *like* the \%s{n}...,
and instead I am getting PROCESSING JOB FROM TRAY 2 which is something
the printer is saying. This is not useful information to me.
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It looks like whenever there is a PostScript command in the data file
to select trays that the HP5 will display the current tray...
Just my suspicion now, based on 1 trial with 1 document using 'manual feed'
Patrick
I get similar results! It has something to do with the tray select
command because I have an old Sunos system that does not do the message
but is tray selecting,,, But my Solaris box does the so and so to tray
whatever. My sunos box gens Postscript level 1,,, I havn't figured
what teh SOlaris postscript level is but if it ties in I'll be back.
Dave
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Re: LPRng: messages in printer display
hey,
but it worked in older versions of IFHP and I loved it !!!
see you
~christoph
On Sat, 1 Dec 2001, Patrick Powell wrote:
From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mon Nov 26 10:45:39 2001
Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2001 12:45:08 -0500 (EST)
From: Ryan Novosielski [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: LPRng: messages in printer display
This isn't exactly the problem -- the problem is I *like* the \%s{n}...,
and instead I am getting PROCESSING JOB FROM TRAY 2 which is something
the printer is saying. This is not useful information to me.
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It looks like whenever there is a PostScript command in the data file
to select trays that the HP5 will display the current tray...
Just my suspicion now, based on 1 trial with 1 document using 'manual feed'
Patrick
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Re: LPRng: messages in printer display
From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mon Nov 26 10:45:39 2001
Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2001 12:45:08 -0500 (EST)
From: Ryan Novosielski [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: LPRng: messages in printer display
This isn't exactly the problem -- the problem is I *like* the \%s{n}...,
and instead I am getting PROCESSING JOB FROM TRAY 2 which is something
the printer is saying. This is not useful information to me.
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It looks like whenever there is a PostScript command in the data file
to select trays that the HP5 will display the current tray...
Just my suspicion now, based on 1 trial with 1 document using 'manual feed'
Patrick
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Re: LPRng: messages in printer display
hey,
I looked at the source a bit, there are some major changes in 3.4.7 in
the code concerning printer display messages.
As this seems to be a topic for a few people using IFHP, it would
perhaps be nice to be able to manage the whole behaviour by ifhp.conf
entrys. Something like 'message at start of printjob', 'message during
printing', 'message at end of printjob' and perhaps the general
behaviour, but I think that the constant display of '$message during
printing' while processing and printing the job is much better than the
'processing blah from blah' message of the printengine...
Is there any chance to realize something alike ?
take care
~christoph
Ryan Novosielski wrote:
Yeah, I have, but I haven't found anyplace to turn it off or anything like
that... I suspect I'm stuck with it, but maybe I just haven't looked deep
enough in the menu maps.
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On Mon, 26 Nov 2001, Dave Lovelace wrote:
Ryan Novosielski wrote:
This isn't exactly the problem -- the problem is I *like* the \%s{n}...,
and instead I am getting PROCESSING JOB FROM TRAY 2 which is something
the printer is saying. This is not useful information to me.
Is it possible that this is setup controlled at the printer? Knowing
you, you've probably also considered that, but I thought I'd ask.
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Re: LPRng: messages in printer display
This is one I actually had success with on my HP5Si - something you already
covered?!! In the ifhp.conf, under ##START PJL configuration, I commented
out the pjl_ready_msg = \%s{n}..., inserted a new line: pjl_ready_msg =
ready
Then, for luck, I rebooted before printing...
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From: Ryan Novosielski [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, November 25, 2001 1:44 PM
Subject: Re: LPRng: messages in printer display
FWIW, only my new printer does the processing from tray 1 business... I
don't like it and would rather have the username... anyone know a way?
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On Fri, 23 Nov 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
hi,
I just upgraded from IFHP 3.3.21 to IFHP 3.4.7, in general everything is
working very well, but the printer display messages behaviour has
changed:
in 3.3.21 the default was like this:
status display message
begin of printjob $user $source: $file
during printing$user
end of printjob$user $source: $file
printjob finished ready
in 3.4.7 it is like this
status display message
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begin of printjob $user $source: $file
during printingprocessing job from tray this or theat
end of printjob$user $source: $file
printjob finished Done: $user: $job
This ends up in people calling me to tell that their printer is broken,
because, guess what...
I played around with the appropriate (?) variables in ifhp.conf
ps_eoj
ps_eoj_at_start
ps_eoj_at_end
pjl_ready_msg
pjl_display_size
pjl_init
pjl_term
but didn't get back to the old behaviour, how is this expected to work ?
thanks
~christoph
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Re: LPRng: messages in printer display
Yeah, I have, but I haven't found anyplace to turn it off or anything like
that... I suspect I'm stuck with it, but maybe I just haven't looked deep
enough in the menu maps.
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On Mon, 26 Nov 2001, Dave Lovelace wrote:
Ryan Novosielski wrote:
This isn't exactly the problem -- the problem is I *like* the \%s{n}...,
and instead I am getting PROCESSING JOB FROM TRAY 2 which is something
the printer is saying. This is not useful information to me.
Is it possible that this is setup controlled at the printer? Knowing
you, you've probably also considered that, but I thought I'd ask.
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Re: LPRng: messages in printer display
Ryan Novosielski wrote:
This isn't exactly the problem -- the problem is I *like* the \%s{n}...,
and instead I am getting PROCESSING JOB FROM TRAY 2 which is something
the printer is saying. This is not useful information to me.
Is it possible that this is setup controlled at the printer? Knowing
you, you've probably also considered that, but I thought I'd ask.
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