Re: [Ltsp-discuss] Printing Challenge

2006-11-19 Thread Alexander Hungenberg
OK, let me explain it a bit more detailed. We have about 5 printers. 3 in the 
computerrooms. While pupils can't use this room without a teacher, we can 
ignore these ones. But then we have two other printers. One, which is freely 
accessible in a corridor, and another one in the staffroom.
The system contains 7 Terminals. 6 in classrooms and one in the staffroom.

Now it would be nice, if the classroom terminals were all able to print on the 
one corridor printer, but not on the staffroom printer. The terminal in the 
staffroom should have access to all printers.

And it would also be nice, if we simply could add diverse printers. So in my 
eyes the easiest would be a list with the printer names and a list with 
Terminals which are allowed to access them.

Unfortunately I'm quite at the beginning. Means, I don't know how, only that I 
want! :)

And thank you again for those many tips!
Alex

 What goal are you trying to reach? How many printers to you really have?
 Have you experienced problems, or is this a solution in search of a
 problem?

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[Ltsp-discuss] No Icons with local dev... and version question

2006-11-19 Thread Michael Hoeller
Hello,

I have a very strange thing here

I have ltsp 4.2 updated with ltspadmin. I get a status of all that there 
is no update required. But wenn I log in at a terminal (locally) and do 
a cat /etc/version then I get 4.2 version 3 though 4 is the latest.
Is the message false or is there an other problem?

Also I use SuSE 9.2 with KDE 3.3 the local device support is fully 
working beside one thing. I do not get an Icon when a device is plugged 
in either CDROM nor USB devs. Correctly spoke, when the device is 
available BEFORE I start the client the I get the icons - they just 
never go away the the device is unplugged.

I am happy about any hint.

Thanks a lot 
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Re: [Ltsp-discuss] Printing Challenge

2006-11-19 Thread Alexander Hungenberg
Hello again,
I think I'm going to find a solution named Tea4CUPS. It's a cups backend which 
catches the jobs before they are forwarded to the printer and lets any 
program/script modify them.

With the already mentioned Set-default-printer solutions this would be a 
reasonably way to restrict the access. Because in the script you can look, if 
the IP and the group is allowed to print, and if not, you are able to send 
some messages with the notification-daemon for example.

So a big thanks to all the helpers
Alex

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Re: [Ltsp-discuss] Printing Challenge

2006-11-19 Thread Frank Bergmann
Hi Alex,

Access-control via groups is implemented in cups.
Think about adding the staff-users to a staff group, deny access from anyone
and allow access from staff-group.
Greetings,

Frank


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Hello again,
I think I'm going to find a solution named Tea4CUPS. It's a cups backend
which 
catches the jobs before they are forwarded to the printer and lets any 
program/script modify them.

With the already mentioned Set-default-printer solutions this would be a 
reasonably way to restrict the access. Because in the script you can look,
if 
the IP and the group is allowed to print, and if not, you are able to send 
some messages with the notification-daemon for example.

So a big thanks to all the helpers
Alex

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[Ltsp-discuss] rc.early_sysinit: no such file or directory

2006-11-19 Thread mailinglisten
Hi all,

while booting a client i get the error msg:

sh: line 1: /etc/rc.early_sysinit: no such file or directory
well the file isnt in $ltsproot/i386/etc/

any guesses?
or where can i get that file?


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Re: [Ltsp-discuss] No Icons with local dev... and version question

2006-11-19 Thread Jim McQuillan


Michael Hoeller wrote:
 Hello,

 I have a very strange thing here

 I have ltsp 4.2 updated with ltspadmin. I get a status of all that there 
 is no update required. But wenn I log in at a terminal (locally) and do 
 a cat /etc/version then I get 4.2 version 3 though 4 is the latest.
 Is the message false or is there an other problem?
   
That's a bug. when I published update-4, I forgot to update the version 
file.

 Also I use SuSE 9.2 with KDE 3.3 the local device support is fully 
 working beside one thing. I do not get an Icon when a device is plugged 
 in either CDROM nor USB devs. Correctly spoke, when the device is 
 available BEFORE I start the client the I get the icons - they just 
 never go away the the device is unplugged.
   
Hmm, dunno what would cause that.  Have you been through the localdev 
troubleshooting document on the wiki?

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Re: [Ltsp-discuss] Where is in.telnetd or in.rshd?

2006-11-19 Thread Jim McQuillan
Kevin,

telnetd and rshd don't exist in LTSP because they aren't needed.

If you want to connect from the server to the workstation, you can use 
ssh. sshd is available on the workstation. You just need to turn on 
LOCAL_APPS and setup NIS for authentication.

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Kevin Wambsganz wrote:
 Hi,

 I’m looking for in.rshd or in.telnetd in the ltsp dir but I can not find it.

 Does anyone know where it is?

 I copied them from my ltsp server to the i386 dir but it didn’t seem to work. 
 So, I guess they are compiled differently from my ltsp server.

 I guess I need in.rshd in.telnetd specifically compile for a ltsp client, 
 right?

 Thanks for your help,

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Re: [Ltsp-discuss] Printing Challenge

2006-11-19 Thread John Lucas
On Sunday 19 November 2006 04:23, Alexander Hungenberg wrote:
 OK, let me explain it a bit more detailed. We have about 5 printers. 3 in
 the computerrooms. While pupils can't use this room without a teacher, we
 can ignore these ones. But then we have two other printers. One, which is
 freely accessible in a corridor, and another one in the staffroom.
 The system contains 7 Terminals. 6 in classrooms and one in the staffroom.

 Now it would be nice, if the classroom terminals were all able to print on
 the one corridor printer, but not on the staffroom printer. The terminal in
 the staffroom should have access to all printers.

 And it would also be nice, if we simply could add diverse printers. So in
 my eyes the easiest would be a list with the printer names and a list with
 Terminals which are allowed to access them.

 Unfortunately I'm quite at the beginning. Means, I don't know how, only
 that I want! :)


Given this information, if I were setting this up I would allow unrestricted 
access to all print queue *except* the one in the staffroom, which would be 
restricted to staff users (through group membership). Then I would map 
default printers for each terminal as either Frank or I have described 
previously. This way the most logical printer would be selected by default, 
yet the corridor printer could be selected from anywhere, and only staff 
could select the printer in the staff room.

Try it and see if this is adequate. Perfection is the enemy of good enough, 
and in this case your idea of perfection doesn't make much sense to me FWIW.

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[Ltsp-discuss] Solved: AW: rc.early_sysinit: no such file or directory

2006-11-19 Thread mailinglisten
Debian provided an old version of ltsp-utils.
the new 0.25 from ltsp.org works.
Terminal is now running.


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Hi all,

while booting a client i get the error msg:

sh: line 1: /etc/rc.early_sysinit: no such file or directory
well the file isnt in $ltsproot/i386/etc/

any guesses?
or where can i get that file?


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Re: [Ltsp-discuss] No Icons with local dev... and version question

2006-11-19 Thread Michael Höller
 Michael Hoeller wrote:
  Also I use SuSE 9.2 with KDE 3.3 the local device support is fully
  working beside one thing. I do not get an Icon when a device is
  plugged in either CDROM nor USB devs. Correctly spoke, when the
  device is available BEFORE I start the client the I get the icons -
  they just never go away the the device is unplugged.
  
  
 Hmm, dunno what would cause that.  Have you been through the localdev
 troubleshooting document on the wiki?

Yes, twice. All is perfect. And I allways get the drives when I plug in
and loose them when I unplug just --- the icons do not move. They stay
as the have been at the session start.

Michael



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Re: [Ltsp-discuss] etc/hosts

2006-11-19 Thread Scott Balneaves
On Sat, Nov 18, 2006 at 05:09:34PM +0100, Verner Kjærsgaard wrote:
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 It's absolutely needed. That or a name server. Without it, you'll run into a 
 pletoria of problems.

LTSP functions just fine without it.  You can specify configuration stanzas
by mac address.

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Re: [Ltsp-discuss] etc/hosts

2006-11-19 Thread John Lucas
On Sunday 19 November 2006 20:53, Scott Balneaves wrote:
 On Sat, Nov 18, 2006 at 05:09:34PM +0100, Verner Kjærsgaard wrote:
  Lørdag 18 november 2006 18:03 skrev [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 
  It's absolutely needed. That or a name server. Without it, you'll run
  into a pletoria of problems.

 LTSP functions just fine without it.  You can specify configuration stanzas
 by mac address.

 Scott

As long as you don't need anything that depends on resolving the $DISPLAY 
variable back to the terminal, like sound or local devices.


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Re: [Ltsp-discuss] etc/hosts

2006-11-19 Thread Jim McQuillan


Scott Balneaves wrote:
 On Sat, Nov 18, 2006 at 05:09:34PM +0100, Verner Kjærsgaard wrote:
   
 Lørdag 18 november 2006 18:03 skrev [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 

   
 It's absolutely needed. That or a name server. Without it, you'll run into a 
 pletoria of problems.
 

 LTSP functions just fine without it.  You can specify configuration stanzas
 by mac address.
   

That's not entirely true for every distro.  Some distros have gdm and/or 
mountd expecting to be able to map an IP address to a hostname.  It's 
been a while since i've bumped into this, because I ALWAYS either 
specify my hosts in the /etc/hosts file or I setup DNS forwards AND 
reverses.

So, my advice is to always provide some method of mapping IP addresses 
to the hostnames of your thin clients.

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