Re: [Ltsp-discuss] Tyan Tomcat h1000E (S3970-E)
Guyz, Finally, I order this Motherboard :) with below spec : - Mobo: Tyan Tomcat h1000E (S3970G2N-U) - Processor: 1 x AMD Opteron 2214 - Memory: 4 x 1 GB - HD: 4 x 250Gb I hope there will be no problem on instalation with K12LTSP-6 :) I've to pray more for this step :) I'll contact you later after I have problem with this MB :) Best Regards, Donny Christiaan. Royce Souther wrote: Nice motherboard! I am running Tyan MB's in all my multiy-CPU LTSP servers. Things I like about Tyan MB's. Excelent support in Linux for network devices, boots without a keyboard. Things I like about this MB, on-board video, I HATE having to buy a video card for a server. With on-bard video you can fit this into a 2U rack case. I love AMD Opteron CPU's. In an LTSP network they just stop all over the Intel systems. I am running Tyan MB with 2x2 Opteron's in the Taber, AB school. When the lab is full of students they all start OpenOffice at the same time and it takes about 1.5 seconds to start up. My friend has a newer Intel system, running just a single session it takes way longer to startup. Other things are a factor in this, hard drives and such but I personaly am never going back to Intel ever again. Thanks for the link to the MB. I think I will order one today. On 10/8/07, *Donny Christiaan* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear All, My supplier suggest me to use Tyan Tomcat h1000E (S3970-E) for my LTSP Server. Where can I find complete information about the compatibility of this mainboard with Linux OS (K12LTSP-6) or does anybody on this list ever used it? http://www.tyan.com/product_board_detail.aspx?pid=529 Thanks a lot. -- Best Regards, Donny Christiaan. [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. Download your FREE copy of Splunk now http://get.splunk.com/ _ Ltsp-discuss mailing list. To un-subscribe, or change prefs, goto: https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/ltsp-discuss For additional LTSP help, try #ltsp channel on irc.freenode.net
Re: [Ltsp-discuss] Tyan Tomcat h1000E (S3970-E)
Hi Royce, Do you have a good link about recompile kernel to use more RAM? with Fedora Core 6 distro. Royce Souther wrote: My MB of choice. Tyan Thunder K8SD Pro S2882-D EATX 2XS940 AMD-8131 8DDR Reg 4PCI-X 4SATA 2GBLAN Video Motherboard http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=17821 http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=17821 CPU's are two dual core AMD Opteron 275 http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=15454 These systems have 8 GB RAM. A 32 bit kernel can use more then 4GB RAM, a lot more. I constructed my own Linux distro http://www.Radados.org based on Debian. These CPU's are 64 bit so I did a lot of testing of the speed with user applications between a 32 bit system and an all 64 bit system and found very little difference when used for an LTSP server. You need to recompile your kernel to use more RAM. I have not tried the H1000E but I feel confident in Tyan quality and Linux compatibility. On 10/21/07, * Donny Christiaan* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Royce, Thanks a lot for your reply. Please share your experience using Tyan MB's. What Tyan MB do you use? What Linux Distro do you use? Is it x86_64 or i386? I've heard that 32-bit distro can't detect memory bigger than 4Mb is that true? Btw, have u buy Tyan h1000E (S3970-E) ? can you share to me your experience using that MB with Linux? what about the compatibility ? Thank you for your help. Best Regards, Donny Christiaan. Royce Souther wrote: Nice motherboard! I am running Tyan MB's in all my multiy-CPU LTSP servers. Things I like about Tyan MB's. Excelent support in Linux for network devices, boots without a keyboard. Things I like about this MB, on-board video, I HATE having to buy a video card for a server. With on-bard video you can fit this into a 2U rack case. I love AMD Opteron CPU's. In an LTSP network they just stop all over the Intel systems. I am running Tyan MB with 2x2 Opteron's in the Taber, AB school. When the lab is full of students they all start OpenOffice at the same time and it takes about 1.5 seconds to start up. My friend has a newer Intel system, running just a single session it takes way longer to startup. Other things are a factor in this, hard drives and such but I personaly am never going back to Intel ever again. Thanks for the link to the MB. I think I will order one today. On 10/8/07, *Donny Christiaan* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear All, My supplier suggest me to use Tyan Tomcat h1000E (S3970-E) for my LTSP Server. Where can I find complete information about the compatibility of this mainboard with Linux OS (K12LTSP-6) or does anybody on this list ever used it? http://www.tyan.com/product_board_detail.aspx?pid=529 Thanks a lot. -- You need music, music needs you; but the RIAA we'd all be better off without. -- Best Regards, Donny Christiaan. [EMAIL PROTECTED] - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. Download your FREE copy of Splunk now http://get.splunk.com/ _ Ltsp-discuss mailing list. To un-subscribe, or change prefs, goto: https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/ltsp-discuss For additional LTSP help, try #ltsp channel on irc.freenode.net
Re: [Ltsp-discuss] Tyan Tomcat h1000E (S3970-E)
But an ordinary server from a large manufacturer, such as Fujisu-Siemens or IBM. And buy 3year support and service contracts. You will get the same performance and alot more warranty. If something breaks on a beige box, you will have to wait alot longer to be up and running (a very important point when talking about a TS environment) then if you had a support contract. The Tyan boards themselves come with their standard 3 year warranty if you want to build. http://www.tyan.com/tech/warranty.aspx When I had a problem with one, I had it back from California in a week. No joke! They were pleasant also. Peter On 10/8/07, Mats Lundqvist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Seems like that mainboard is pretty well supported: http://www.tyan.com/archive/support/html/drivers_linux.html A word of advice though: But an ordinary server from a large manufacturer, such as Fujisu-Siemens or IBM. And buy 3year support and service contracts. You will get the same performance and alot more warranty. If something breaks on a beige box, you will have to wait alot longer to be up and running (a very important point when talking about a TS environment) then if you had a support contract. /Mats 2007/10/8, Donny Christiaan [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Dear All, My supplier suggest me to use Tyan Tomcat h1000E (S3970-E) for my LTSP Server. Where can I find complete information about the compatibility of this mainboard with Linux OS (K12LTSP-6) or does anybody on this list ever used it? http://www.tyan.com/product_board_detail.aspx?pid=529 Thanks a lot. -- Best Regards, Donny Christiaan. [EMAIL PROTECTED] - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. Download your FREE copy of Splunk now http://get.splunk.com/ _ Ltsp-discuss mailing list. To un-subscribe, or change prefs, goto: https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/ltsp-discuss For additional LTSP help, try #ltsp channel on irc.freenode.net -- Vänliga Hälsningar Mats Lundqvist +4670-513 73 87 - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. Download your FREE copy of Splunk now http://get.splunk.com/ _ Ltsp-discuss mailing list. To un-subscribe, or change prefs, goto: https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/ltsp-discuss For additional LTSP help, try #ltsp channel on irc.freenode.net - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. Download your FREE copy of Splunk now http://get.splunk.com/ _ Ltsp-discuss mailing list. To un-subscribe, or change prefs, goto: https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/ltsp-discuss For additional LTSP help, try #ltsp channel on irc.freenode.net
Re: [Ltsp-discuss] Tyan Tomcat h1000E (S3970-E)
My MB of choice. Tyan Thunder K8SD Pro S2882-D EATX 2XS940 AMD-8131 8DDR Reg 4PCI-X 4SATA 2GBLAN Video Motherboard http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=17821 CPU's are two dual core AMD Opteron 275 http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=15454 These systems have 8 GB RAM. A 32 bit kernel can use more then 4GB RAM, a lot more. I constructed my own Linux distro http://www.Radados.org based on Debian. These CPU's are 64 bit so I did a lot of testing of the speed with user applications between a 32 bit system and an all 64 bit system and found very little difference when used for an LTSP server. You need to recompile your kernel to use more RAM. I have not tried the H1000E but I feel confident in Tyan quality and Linux compatibility. On 10/21/07, Donny Christiaan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Royce, Thanks a lot for your reply. Please share your experience using Tyan MB's. What Tyan MB do you use? What Linux Distro do you use? Is it x86_64 or i386? I've heard that 32-bit distro can't detect memory bigger than 4Mb is that true? Btw, have u buy Tyan h1000E (S3970-E) ? can you share to me your experience using that MB with Linux? what about the compatibility ? Thank you for your help. Best Regards, Donny Christiaan. Royce Souther wrote: Nice motherboard! I am running Tyan MB's in all my multiy-CPU LTSP servers. Things I like about Tyan MB's. Excelent support in Linux for network devices, boots without a keyboard. Things I like about this MB, on-board video, I HATE having to buy a video card for a server. With on-bard video you can fit this into a 2U rack case. I love AMD Opteron CPU's. In an LTSP network they just stop all over the Intel systems. I am running Tyan MB with 2x2 Opteron's in the Taber, AB school. When the lab is full of students they all start OpenOffice at the same time and it takes about 1.5 seconds to start up. My friend has a newer Intel system, running just a single session it takes way longer to startup. Other things are a factor in this, hard drives and such but I personaly am never going back to Intel ever again. Thanks for the link to the MB. I think I will order one today. On 10/8/07, *Donny Christiaan* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear All, My supplier suggest me to use Tyan Tomcat h1000E (S3970-E) for my LTSP Server. Where can I find complete information about the compatibility of this mainboard with Linux OS (K12LTSP-6) or does anybody on this list ever used it? http://www.tyan.com/product_board_detail.aspx?pid=529 Thanks a lot. -- You need music, music needs you; but the RIAA we'd all be better off without. - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. Download your FREE copy of Splunk now http://get.splunk.com/_ Ltsp-discuss mailing list. To un-subscribe, or change prefs, goto: https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/ltsp-discuss For additional LTSP help, try #ltsp channel on irc.freenode.net
Re: [Ltsp-discuss] Tyan Tomcat h1000E (S3970-E)
Yes they have great support. One of my clients had a problem with a system and sent the MB to them, they did a full test and found nothing wrong with it. It turned out to be a flaky power supply. They shipped the MB back very quickly. On 10/22/07, Peter Hartmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But an ordinary server from a large manufacturer, such as Fujisu-Siemens or IBM. And buy 3year support and service contracts. You will get the same performance and alot more warranty. If something breaks on a beige box, you will have to wait alot longer to be up and running (a very important point when talking about a TS environment) then if you had a support contract. The Tyan boards themselves come with their standard 3 year warranty if you want to build. http://www.tyan.com/tech/warranty.aspx When I had a problem with one, I had it back from California in a week. No joke! They were pleasant also. Peter On 10/8/07, Mats Lundqvist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Seems like that mainboard is pretty well supported: http://www.tyan.com/archive/support/html/drivers_linux.html A word of advice though: But an ordinary server from a large manufacturer, such as Fujisu-Siemens or IBM. And buy 3year support and service contracts. You will get the same performance and alot more warranty. If something breaks on a beige box, you will have to wait alot longer to be up and running (a very important point when talking about a TS environment) then if you had a support contract. /Mats 2007/10/8, Donny Christiaan [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Dear All, My supplier suggest me to use Tyan Tomcat h1000E (S3970-E) for my LTSP Server. Where can I find complete information about the compatibility of this mainboard with Linux OS (K12LTSP-6) or does anybody on this list ever used it? http://www.tyan.com/product_board_detail.aspx?pid=529 Thanks a lot. -- Best Regards, Donny Christiaan. [EMAIL PROTECTED] - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. Download your FREE copy of Splunk now http://get.splunk.com/ _ Ltsp-discuss mailing list. To un-subscribe, or change prefs, goto: https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/ltsp-discuss For additional LTSP help, try #ltsp channel on irc.freenode.net -- Vänliga Hälsningar Mats Lundqvist +4670-513 73 87 - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. Download your FREE copy of Splunk now http://get.splunk.com/ _ Ltsp-discuss mailing list. To un-subscribe, or change prefs, goto: https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/ltsp-discuss For additional LTSP help, try #ltsp channel on irc.freenode.net - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. Download your FREE copy of Splunk now http://get.splunk.com/ _ Ltsp-discuss mailing list. To un-subscribe, or change prefs, goto: https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/ltsp-discuss For additional LTSP help, try #ltsp channel on irc.freenode.net -- You need music, music needs you; but the RIAA we'd all be better off without. - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. Download your FREE copy of Splunk now http://get.splunk.com/_ Ltsp-discuss mailing list. To un-subscribe, or change prefs, goto: https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/ltsp-discuss For additional LTSP help, try #ltsp channel on irc.freenode.net
Re: [Ltsp-discuss] Tyan Tomcat h1000E (S3970-E)
I cannot help with FC kernels. Fedora packs a lot of custom hacks into there kernel, if you build one your self it my not work the first time. If you want to build your own kernel for Fedora I suggest you install on a practice system first and then install all the kernel development tools that come with Fedora. Once you have your custom kernel do not install any kernel updates, it would undo your RAM fix. I like to build vanilla kernels directly from kernel.org and use the CLI tools. The option you need is CONFIG_HIGHMEM64G and if you use the make menuconfig command like I do then you will find the option under Processor Type And Features - High Memory Support This is a general list of commands I run make mrproper cp /boot/config-`uname -r` ./ make menuconfig make dep make bzImage make modules make modules_install make install vi /etc/lilo.conf lilo Fedora uses Grub not lilo. I find Grub to be far to limited. You should expect problems because of selinux hacks in Fedora, get someone else to help with that. If you feel like you are not up to the challenge of building your own kernel and this is a production system then I advise you to hire someone to build the kernel for you or assist you with it. You may do will to poke around the Fedora support forums, someone my already have a high mem kernel built. On 10/22/07, Donny Christiaan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Royce, Do you have a good link about recompile kernel to use more RAM? with Fedora Core 6 distro. Royce Souther wrote: My MB of choice. Tyan Thunder K8SD Pro S2882-D EATX 2XS940 AMD-8131 8DDR Reg 4PCI-X 4SATA 2GBLAN Video Motherboard http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=17821 http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=17821 CPU's are two dual core AMD Opteron 275 http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=15454 These systems have 8 GB RAM. A 32 bit kernel can use more then 4GB RAM, a lot more. I constructed my own Linux distro http://www.Radados.org based on Debian. These CPU's are 64 bit so I did a lot of testing of the speed with user applications between a 32 bit system and an all 64 bit system and found very little difference when used for an LTSP server. You need to recompile your kernel to use more RAM. I have not tried the H1000E but I feel confident in Tyan quality and Linux compatibility. On 10/21/07, * Donny Christiaan* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Royce, Thanks a lot for your reply. Please share your experience using Tyan MB's. What Tyan MB do you use? What Linux Distro do you use? Is it x86_64 or i386? I've heard that 32-bit distro can't detect memory bigger than 4Mb is that true? Btw, have u buy Tyan h1000E (S3970-E) ? can you share to me your experience using that MB with Linux? what about the compatibility ? Thank you for your help. Best Regards, Donny Christiaan. Royce Souther wrote: Nice motherboard! I am running Tyan MB's in all my multiy-CPU LTSP servers. Things I like about Tyan MB's. Excelent support in Linux for network devices, boots without a keyboard. Things I like about this MB, on-board video, I HATE having to buy a video card for a server. With on-bard video you can fit this into a 2U rack case. I love AMD Opteron CPU's. In an LTSP network they just stop all over the Intel systems. I am running Tyan MB with 2x2 Opteron's in the Taber, AB school. When the lab is full of students they all start OpenOffice at the same time and it takes about 1.5 seconds to start up. My friend has a newer Intel system, running just a single session it takes way longer to startup. Other things are a factor in this, hard drives and such but I personaly am never going back to Intel ever again. Thanks for the link to the MB. I think I will order one today. On 10/8/07, *Donny Christiaan* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear All, My supplier suggest me to use Tyan Tomcat h1000E (S3970-E) for my LTSP Server. Where can I find complete information about the compatibility of this mainboard with Linux OS (K12LTSP-6) or does anybody on this list ever used it? http://www.tyan.com/product_board_detail.aspx?pid=529 Thanks a lot. -- You need music, music needs you; but the RIAA we'd all be better off without. -- Best Regards, Donny Christiaan. [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You need music, music needs you; but the RIAA we'd all be better off without.
Re: [Ltsp-discuss] Tyan Tomcat h1000E (S3970-E)
Nice motherboard! I am running Tyan MB's in all my multiy-CPU LTSP servers. Things I like about Tyan MB's. Excelent support in Linux for network devices, boots without a keyboard. Things I like about this MB, on-board video, I HATE having to buy a video card for a server. With on-bard video you can fit this into a 2U rack case. I love AMD Opteron CPU's. In an LTSP network they just stop all over the Intel systems. I am running Tyan MB with 2x2 Opteron's in the Taber, AB school. When the lab is full of students they all start OpenOffice at the same time and it takes about 1.5 seconds to start up. My friend has a newer Intel system, running just a single session it takes way longer to startup. Other things are a factor in this, hard drives and such but I personaly am never going back to Intel ever again. Thanks for the link to the MB. I think I will order one today. On 10/8/07, Donny Christiaan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear All, My supplier suggest me to use Tyan Tomcat h1000E (S3970-E) for my LTSP Server. Where can I find complete information about the compatibility of this mainboard with Linux OS (K12LTSP-6) or does anybody on this list ever used it? http://www.tyan.com/product_board_detail.aspx?pid=529 Thanks a lot. -- Best Regards, Donny Christiaan. [EMAIL PROTECTED] - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. Download your FREE copy of Splunk now http://get.splunk.com/ _ Ltsp-discuss mailing list. To un-subscribe, or change prefs, goto: https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/ltsp-discuss For additional LTSP help, try #ltsp channel on irc.freenode.net -- Tiem [teem] (n) The group of losers that follow you around at work and take credit for your brilliant ideas. - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. Download your FREE copy of Splunk now http://get.splunk.com/_ Ltsp-discuss mailing list. To un-subscribe, or change prefs, goto: https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/ltsp-discuss For additional LTSP help, try #ltsp channel on irc.freenode.net
[Ltsp-discuss] Tyan Tomcat h1000E (S3970-E)
Dear All, My supplier suggest me to use Tyan Tomcat h1000E (S3970-E) for my LTSP Server. Where can I find complete information about the compatibility of this mainboard with Linux OS (K12LTSP-6) or does anybody on this list ever used it? http://www.tyan.com/product_board_detail.aspx?pid=529 Thanks a lot. -- Best Regards, Donny Christiaan. [EMAIL PROTECTED] - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. Download your FREE copy of Splunk now http://get.splunk.com/ _ Ltsp-discuss mailing list. To un-subscribe, or change prefs, goto: https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/ltsp-discuss For additional LTSP help, try #ltsp channel on irc.freenode.net
Re: [Ltsp-discuss] Tyan Tomcat h1000E (S3970-E)
Seems like that mainboard is pretty well supported: http://www.tyan.com/archive/support/html/drivers_linux.html A word of advice though: But an ordinary server from a large manufacturer, such as Fujisu-Siemens or IBM. And buy 3year support and service contracts. You will get the same performance and alot more warranty. If something breaks on a beige box, you will have to wait alot longer to be up and running (a very important point when talking about a TS environment) then if you had a support contract. /Mats 2007/10/8, Donny Christiaan [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Dear All, My supplier suggest me to use Tyan Tomcat h1000E (S3970-E) for my LTSP Server. Where can I find complete information about the compatibility of this mainboard with Linux OS (K12LTSP-6) or does anybody on this list ever used it? http://www.tyan.com/product_board_detail.aspx?pid=529 Thanks a lot. -- Best Regards, Donny Christiaan. [EMAIL PROTECTED] - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. Download your FREE copy of Splunk now http://get.splunk.com/ _ Ltsp-discuss mailing list. To un-subscribe, or change prefs, goto: https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/ltsp-discuss For additional LTSP help, try #ltsp channel on irc.freenode.net -- Vänliga Hälsningar Mats Lundqvist +4670-513 73 87 - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. Download your FREE copy of Splunk now http://get.splunk.com/ _ Ltsp-discuss mailing list. To un-subscribe, or change prefs, goto: https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/ltsp-discuss For additional LTSP help, try #ltsp channel on irc.freenode.net
