Re: [luau] List Policy
Okay, let's stop (indirectly) pointing fingers here... it may have been better to personally contact Ed about his e-mails, but nobody's perfect. If you have a problem with someone, try to take it out on them personally; the whole list doesn't need to know. (Maybe something of this extent can be added to the policy that Scott is writing?) George, you often talk about how lousy the LUAU operation is, and stated a couple of times about your CLUE group in Denver. So why don't you become a part of the solution by telling us how CLUE runs their group? Let's learn by example experience. I remember Warren mentioning that the Silicon Valley Linux Users Group had an interesting list policy worth looking at: http://www.svlug.org/policies/list-policy.shtml Good judgement comes from experience. Experience comes from bad judgement. - quite true elayne Joe Linux [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: I agree fully with you, but I guess at this point I see this as problem where a single individual is enforcing policy where no policy exists. Now you can ask is the problem do to a lack of policy or an individual who makes up policy on the spot, with little thought as he goes along. Since I was at the brunt of this in the past, I guess I can admit that a certain amount of bad blood is coming out now as I see the same thing happening to others that happened in the past to me. An yes, I agree this is definitely not in the interest of actually building and open source community. I would like to point out that I'm also a member of the CLUE group in Denver, and there are is virtually no equivalent problem.
Re: [luau] IMPORTANT - Upcoming List Policy
On Wed, 4 Sep 2002 13:33:38 -1000, [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: I fully agree with all of these points, except for #2. Micro$oft bashing is a time-honoured and loved aspect of any Linux Users Group. It's what gives us our character! :) cheers, charles (writing from a Winblows machine) In my opinion, Microsoft bashing is alright to a certain extent. For example, I'm sure you remember back in your childhood days when your friends made up harsh nicknames for other people, or even against yourself, all in the name of fun. It's comical at first, but after a while it gets quite irritating and annoying. Someone who constantly utters these nicknames now have a close-minded view of that person. As Warren stated, it does scare some people even if you meant no harm. Bashing also gives people a negative connotation of you and those affiliated with you, such as MPLUG. If this is the character that you want for this group, then please continue the bashing. Just because all other Linux User Groups do it, does that make it right? With the Linux for Schools project successfully underway, more and more educators and non-techies are joining this mailing list. The self-censorship that MonMotha mentioned would be ideal, and possibly crucial, to keep these people interested in the Open Source community. Wouldn't they rather trust a group of individuals who can express their ideas and opinions eloquently? Speaking of the car analogy, there seems to be this big feud between Ford and Chevrolet owners on the mainland. Both sides conjure up nasty nicknames, bumper stickers, and other miscellaneous propaganda against the other. It makes you wonder if people ever grow up. Just my two cents plus tax :] -elayne
RE: [luau] routing
On Sat, 31 Aug 2002 12:51:38 -1000, Randall Oshita [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: I'm adding a Linksys router (based on 192) to a network with the 10 series. Subnet : 255.255.255.0; subnet class within the ip is the same for all workstations as well, 10.0.0.# . Gateway will be the router : 192. Doesn't look like the linksys can be told how to get from one subnet to another. I'm looking to see if a Linux box will provide me with a solution. Randall- I'd suggest plugging an uplink cable from the 10.0.0.0 network into the WAN port of the Linksys router. Make sure you know whether or not you need a cross-over cable. I'll explain that further if needed. Linksys automatically assigns the internal LAN the 192.168.1.0/24 network scheme, so you should plug the 192 network segment into the designated LAN port of the router. This 192.168.1.0 scheme can be changed if needed, but this default should be fine for this situation. This solution also works great if your ISP stems from the 10 network, and access to the Internet is needed for the 192 network. You would need to setup DHCP on the 192.168.1.0 network workstations, though. With DHCP, you wouldn't need to set up the gateway address on those computers. (That might've been the problem.) Make sure your router is also set to be a DHCP server! The accompanying manual tells you how. Leave the current setup on the 10.0.0.0 network as it was before you installed the Linksys router. That should work. If not, I'm proactively assuming the next adversity might be that uplink/cross-over cable. If you need an explanation for that, please feel free to ask. -elayne
Re: [luau] PowerPoint Alternative
On Wed, 21 Aug 2002 08:08:48 -1000, W. Wayne Liauh [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: That Linux would boot up OK, but then lost its screen when it went into the X graphic mode. Now I come to think about this. Perhaps what happened was that I was running 1028x768 mode but the projector only accepted 800x600. Wayne- Did changing your resolution fix that problem? If not, (depending on your laptop) it might have been that the CRT/LCD button wasn't pressed. It should be one of the Function keys on your laptop that you have to press in conjunction with the Fn key. (For my laptop I have to press Fn + F8) When you activate that CRT/LCD button, there are 3 different modes. (You change modes by pressing that combination of keys until you hit the mode you want... for my Dell laptop anyway.) The first mode is a display signal going only to your LCD screen on your laptop and no signal going out of the VGA port, which is what your laptop might have been doing. The second mode is a signal going out of the VGA port, but the LCD screen is completely blank. The third mode is having both LCD CRT signals on. I use the third one because I want to see what slide I'm at, and not have to look at the projector screen. Trying testing this function out with a VGA monitor hooked up to your laptop. I apologize if you knew this CRT/LCD thing beforehand. A little something not directly related to this: I'm dual booting Linux Windows ME on this laptop. On Friday, I had a last-minute presentation to give, but realized that A) I don't have MS PowerPoint and B) I could not install PowerPoint because I left my CD-drive at home. So I was running around like a chicken without its head, trying to share Office 2000 over our network in order to install it onto my laptop. Then it suddenly hit me: I have StarOffice!! So that really saved my butt, and the presentation came out great. (Phew!) :] Elayne Man Mililani High School [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [luau] switch
Randall- Yes, along with active hubs, switches and routers will also act as a repeater by regenerating the signal, and it only sends data to its correct destination. (This minimizes collisions.) Some hubs will amplify the signal and send it out to ALL ports... not good :] -Elayne From: Daniel J Nishimura [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [luau] switch Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2002 12:12:40 -1000 (HST) An active hub is a multiport repeater. You can usually tell an active hub from a passive hub by whether or not it uses its own power supply. -dan On Mon, 29 Jul 2002, Kevin Goad wrote: It depends on what kind it is. Intelligent hubs or repeaters will retransmit a signal, but the cheap home network hubs don't. On Tue, 2002-01-29 at 05:16, Randall Oshita wrote: Will a switch or HUB act as a repeater? Thanks Randall ___ LUAU mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://videl.ics.hawaii.edu/mailman/listinfo/luau ___ LUAU mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://videl.ics.hawaii.edu/mailman/listinfo/luau _ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com
