Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Possible additions / changes
On Sun, 22 Nov 2009 13:49:37 -0700 (MST) supp...@buntfu.com wrote: > Two possible additions, first pmount seems to take care of PCManFM not > mounting cd's and usb devices... No problem for me without pmount, it's strange that it doesn't work for you. Also, we should wait the new pcmanfm before adding such depends. > the second would be to replace the music > player with gmusicbrowser since you can use mplayer as its backend, it has > many interfaces and handles large music libraries very well and it super > lightweight... these were the first things i changed when installing > lubuntu for a friend.. Please see my previous mail about default applications. But I didn't know there is a music player with mplayer backend. I tried it a bit and it's pretty nice. It uses more RAM that aqualung but the CPU usage is really low. Regards, Julien Lavergne -- Julien Lavergne ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Lubuntu-desktop] Default applications on Lubuntu 10.04 : Summarize of the UDS Session
Hi, This a quick summarize of the session we had in UDS about the workflow for choosing default applications, and with a current proposal. Blueprint : https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/lubuntu-lucid-default-applications Complete spec : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Specs/LubuntuLucidApplications Current consensus was to stay with the list of applications we have for Karmic (but please read until the end of this mail :)) The general proposal for the roadmap is the following : - Determine areas not currently covered in Karmic seed that still need to be addressed - Discuss applications that could be replaced - Organize a IRC meeting to stop the applications list For problematic applications, we'll need discussions preferably with advantages/disadvantages, benchmarks (memory and CPU usage , dependencies, installed space ...). The goal is not to replace all the seed, but focus on some keys applications that can be discuss, and which have solid arguments for a replacement. Again, this is a proposal, feel free to comment it. If there is no objection, we could start discussion on the content of the list. Regards, Julien Lavergne -- Julien Lavergne ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Possible additions / changes
lxmusic does seem perfect hopefully the bugs get worked out > The combination of gnome-mplayer as a multimedia player for everything and > xmms2 + lxmusic for music management would be the best combination for the > future. > If xmms2 and lxmusic won't become stable or good enough, we can always > stick to aqualung. > As we are creating an LXDE based Distribution we should stick to something > developed by the LXDE guys, because this will help them to improve there > apps. (more testers -> more bug reports -> better software). So lxmusic > should be definitely be in. > > On Sun, 22 Nov 2009 16:04:49 -0700 (MST) > supp...@buntfu.com wrote: > >> The only problem I could see with exaile is its dependency on gstreamer. >> Since mplayer is the default movie player for lubuntu it makes sense to >> utilize mplayer as the backend to handle music playing to avoid adding >> unneeded libraries to the overall system. >> >> Regards, >> Ronnie >> Buntfu.com >> >> >> > Pmount makes sense but I tried gmusicbrowser and it is nether a >> > lightweight music player like lxmusic which I think should remain the >> > default nor a full music library like exaile which I think should be >> a >> > recommended option for those who want to mange a music library and not >> > just play the odd song. >> > >> > The main issue I had with gmusicbrowser was that it seemed to take >> over >> > my CPU and it didn't seem as complete and user-friendly as exaile >> anyway. >> > >> > Regards >> > >> > Joe >> > >> > supp...@buntfu.com wrote: >> >> Two possible additions, first pmount seems to take care of PCManFM >> not >> >> mounting cd's and usb devices... the second would be to replace the >> >> music >> >> player with gmusicbrowser since you can use mplayer as its backend, >> it >> >> has >> >> many interfaces and handles large music libraries very well and it >> super >> >> lightweight... these were the first things i changed when installing >> >> lubuntu for a friend.. >> >> >> >> >> >> Regards, >> >> Ronnie >> >> Buntfu.com >> >> >> >> >> >> ___ >> >> Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop >> >> Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net >> >> Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop >> >> More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> > >> > >> >> >> >> ___ >> Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop >> Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net >> Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop >> More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp > > ___ > Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop > Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net > Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop > More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp > ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Possible additions / changes
The combination of gnome-mplayer as a multimedia player for everything and xmms2 + lxmusic for music management would be the best combination for the future. If xmms2 and lxmusic won't become stable or good enough, we can always stick to aqualung. As we are creating an LXDE based Distribution we should stick to something developed by the LXDE guys, because this will help them to improve there apps. (more testers -> more bug reports -> better software). So lxmusic should be definitely be in. On Sun, 22 Nov 2009 16:04:49 -0700 (MST) supp...@buntfu.com wrote: > The only problem I could see with exaile is its dependency on gstreamer. > Since mplayer is the default movie player for lubuntu it makes sense to > utilize mplayer as the backend to handle music playing to avoid adding > unneeded libraries to the overall system. > > Regards, > Ronnie > Buntfu.com > > > > Pmount makes sense but I tried gmusicbrowser and it is nether a > > lightweight music player like lxmusic which I think should remain the > > default nor a full music library like exaile which I think should be a > > recommended option for those who want to mange a music library and not > > just play the odd song. > > > > The main issue I had with gmusicbrowser was that it seemed to take over > > my CPU and it didn't seem as complete and user-friendly as exaile anyway. > > > > Regards > > > > Joe > > > > supp...@buntfu.com wrote: > >> Two possible additions, first pmount seems to take care of PCManFM not > >> mounting cd's and usb devices... the second would be to replace the > >> music > >> player with gmusicbrowser since you can use mplayer as its backend, it > >> has > >> many interfaces and handles large music libraries very well and it super > >> lightweight... these were the first things i changed when installing > >> lubuntu for a friend.. > >> > >> > >> Regards, > >> Ronnie > >> Buntfu.com > >> > >> > >> ___ > >> Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop > >> Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net > >> Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop > >> More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > ___ > Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop > Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net > Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop > More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Possible additions / changes
The only problem I could see with exaile is its dependency on gstreamer. Since mplayer is the default movie player for lubuntu it makes sense to utilize mplayer as the backend to handle music playing to avoid adding unneeded libraries to the overall system. Regards, Ronnie Buntfu.com > Pmount makes sense but I tried gmusicbrowser and it is nether a > lightweight music player like lxmusic which I think should remain the > default nor a full music library like exaile which I think should be a > recommended option for those who want to mange a music library and not > just play the odd song. > > The main issue I had with gmusicbrowser was that it seemed to take over > my CPU and it didn't seem as complete and user-friendly as exaile anyway. > > Regards > > Joe > > supp...@buntfu.com wrote: >> Two possible additions, first pmount seems to take care of PCManFM not >> mounting cd's and usb devices... the second would be to replace the >> music >> player with gmusicbrowser since you can use mplayer as its backend, it >> has >> many interfaces and handles large music libraries very well and it super >> lightweight... these were the first things i changed when installing >> lubuntu for a friend.. >> >> >> Regards, >> Ronnie >> Buntfu.com >> >> >> ___ >> Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop >> Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net >> Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop >> More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp >> >> >> > > > ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Possible additions / changes
Pmount makes sense but I tried gmusicbrowser and it is nether a lightweight music player like lxmusic which I think should remain the default nor a full music library like exaile which I think should be a recommended option for those who want to mange a music library and not just play the odd song. The main issue I had with gmusicbrowser was that it seemed to take over my CPU and it didn't seem as complete and user-friendly as exaile anyway. Regards Joe supp...@buntfu.com wrote: Two possible additions, first pmount seems to take care of PCManFM not mounting cd's and usb devices... the second would be to replace the music player with gmusicbrowser since you can use mplayer as its backend, it has many interfaces and handles large music libraries very well and it super lightweight... these were the first things i changed when installing lubuntu for a friend.. Regards, Ronnie Buntfu.com ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Lubuntu-desktop] Possible additions / changes
Two possible additions, first pmount seems to take care of PCManFM not mounting cd's and usb devices... the second would be to replace the music player with gmusicbrowser since you can use mplayer as its backend, it has many interfaces and handles large music libraries very well and it super lightweight... these were the first things i changed when installing lubuntu for a friend.. Regards, Ronnie Buntfu.com ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] RAM and CPU Requierments
We don't have for now the requierement needed for Lubuntu, because some components are still in developpement. However, I done some testing on Karmic + LXDE/Lubuntu packages updated from Lucid + some adjustements, and a session start with 50-60 Mo, according to the taskmanager. So in your case, the memory could be a bit short to be confortable. For the processor, I can't test if it's useable. But It will be a good candidate for testing Lubuntu Lucid, and I will be happy to have your feedback on it. Regards, Julien Lavergne On Sat, 21 Nov 2009 19:22:51 - Eduard Gotwig wrote: > How many RAM and CPU does Lubuntu 10.4 will require? > i have a 266 mhz pentium 2 processor,126 mb ram and 5 gb disk space and > what linux kernel we would take? > -- > This message was sent from Launchpad by the user > Eduard Gotwig (https://launchpad.net/~eduard-gotwig) > using the "Contact this team" link on the Lubuntu team page. > For more information see > https://help.launchpad.net/YourAccount/ContactingPeople > > ___ > Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop > Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net > Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop > More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- Julien Lavergne ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] RAM and CPU Requierments
FeatherLinux, DSL, Puppy all work great on old rigs On Sun, 2009-11-22 at 00:38 -0500, Josh Embrey wrote: > Although others have suggested other things, there are specific linux > distributions that can really work well with old (I mean REALLY old) > systems. The issue is that they're really complicated for daily use. > One good one. TinyCore linux would work amazingly well on it, but > it's not for new users by any means. It does, however, have a basic > GUI. So, the option is there. > > http://tinycorelinux.com > > On Sat, Nov 21, 2009 at 2:22 PM, Eduard Gotwig > wrote: > How many RAM and CPU does Lubuntu 10.4 will require? > i have a 266 mhz pentium 2 processor,126 mb ram and 5 gb disk > space and > what linux kernel we would take? > -- > This message was sent from Launchpad by the user > Eduard Gotwig (https://launchpad.net/~eduard-gotwig) > using the "Contact this team" link on the Lubuntu team page. > For more information see > https://help.launchpad.net/YourAccount/ContactingPeople > > ___ > Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop > Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net > Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop > More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp > > ___ > Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop > Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net > Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop > More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] RAM and CPU Requierments
You are right, that's why I said it's only OK for old PCs. And usually, people won't use modern devices for such PCs. Indeed, 2.6 kernel supports much more, but the quality of the code is falling since the 2.4->2.6 transition. I hope the upstream AND the kernel policy will change. Since if they provide a bad base , and bad apps, no distro dev can create a good release. S "Unfortunately some hardware will not run so well on the 2.4 kernel and needs many of the features in the newer kernels. Sure the OS is light but people (like myself) who don't have the slowest systems, still like to leave maximum resources for actual applications to run rather than a bloated desktop. Just my 2p worth -ActionParsnip" ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
