Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] gtk3

2011-06-03 Thread Benny Hult
If you want to share images with us, please could be you be kind and use
IMAGE HOSTING SERVICES and just paste url to the image.
This is mailing-list, not your personal email exchange with your family and
friends.


2011/6/2 神癒礁湖 (Rafael Laguna) rafaellag...@gmail.com

 Hiya, guys and girls:

 The Ozone theme (now called Ozone2, very original :| ) is working, more or
 less, on a GTK3 environment. Sorry for the screenshot, it's made using
 Unity2D (LXDE doesn't have been ported yet so it can't make use of the new
 libraries) and Openbox (exotic combination :D ). Anyway, this screenshot
 means that we're in the right way, but theme may sure differ a lot from this
 (that's my intention, repeating is boring).



 PCManFM (gtk2) is on the left, and Nautilus (gtk3) on the right. Would like
 to see PCManFM gtk3 from GIT working.

 Another question. Any of you have noticed a bug on the Gnome-MPlayer icon?
 I mean, it may show hard-edged with sharp contours.

 Thank you.


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[Lubuntu-desktop] X session crash when changing desktop background

2011-06-03 Thread markk
Hi,

There doesn't seem to be a link to report bugs at
https://bugs.launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop so I'm posting this here.

The X session crashes if you try to change the desktop background to the
background colour. This happens for me both after booting a Lubuntu 11.04
CD on an old Celeron 2.5GHz PC, and in a VirtualBox VM on a more modern
machine after installing Lubuntu.

To reproduce the problem:
 - Boot system
 - Right-click over the desktop. Select Desktop Preferences.
 - Change Wallpaper mode to Fill with background colour only.
 - The X session crashes/exits, dumping you back at the login screen.
After logging in again, the desktop background is unchanged (remaining an
image, not the background colour).


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[Lubuntu-desktop] The need to improve Lubuntu bug filing

2011-06-03 Thread Lance
First a brief intro. I'm Erick Brunzell at Launchpad, Lance at iso-testing (in 
which I've participated for over 3 years), and kansasnoob at Ubuntu forums.

I'm quite glad to see that Lubuntu will soon become an official member of the 
Ubuntu family. I particularly look forward to the day that Lubuntu's images are 
included in Ubuntu's iso-testing.

Anyway I obtained the Lubuntu Oneiric Alpha1 image here:

http://people.ubuntu.com/~gilir/

And naturally I encountered a few minor bugs. To expect any less this early in 
a dev cycle is insane, but I still felt they should be reported. The specific 
bugs are:

1) The Lubuntu Alpha1 Live CD boots to a tty, so you have to type startx to get 
the DE.

2) The default DE lacks restart or shutdown buttons.

3) Upon completing the installation I was asked whether to restart or keep 
using the Live DE as usual. I chose to restart and 
the CD ejected as expected but the screen was just blank. So I removed the CD, 
closed the tray and hit enter, but nothing 
happened. I tried some common key combos but finally had to use the 
reset button on my box to complete the restart.

Of course none of these are serious or unexpected this early in a dev cycle, 
but I wanted to get my feet wet checking out bug filing against Lubuntu anyway, 
and I'm a bit puzzled.

I'm used to iso-testing pure Ubuntu so all of the above bugs would be filed 
against 'casper' but I know these bugs were not present when I tested Ubuntu so 
I thought I should possibly file them against the meta-package 
'lubuntu-desktop' but that's a no-go.

I'm just wondering if the meta-package 'lubuntu-desktop' should be added to 
launchpad as a bug filing option?

I'm very impressed with the Lubuntu project and I hope my iso-testing skills 
may be helpful at some point, but I have no development skills. I'm just a 
tester.

Apologies in advance if I was wrong posting in this manner.

Sincerely,

Lance
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] The need to improve Lubuntu bug filing

2011-06-03 Thread Phill Whiteside
 hiyas kansasnoob,

firstly, great to see you - I don't get onto the forum areas as much as I
used to (or should do). The A1 is still built the 'old way' and is, afaik,
just a toe stretching session for the new kernel to be included. There has
been some work the apps done, along with deciding which applications we
include by default. Pcman has a new pcmanfm out in the wild for us to break.
Hooks for apport are on the TODO list and are being added, but the 1,000
dedicated developers we have . err, well, I may have over estimated by
998 are awaiting getting their teeth into the 'official' iso building
system. This should be done for a2.

The general page for 11.10 is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Developers

Progress on the apport hooks can be found at
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Developers/TODO

If you, or any of the testers on the main area would like to keep abreast of
what Lubuntu is up to, please doe feel free to add the mailing list to your
cluttered boxes (We don't send that many out!)
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/GettingInvolved has the one click link to
get the lubuntu discussions.

Please give my regards to Ranch Hand, I must pop on and find out what better
name he has for 11.10 - I will make a point of letting the testing area know
when A2 comes out, but the a1 had little in the way of changes.

Apart from anything else, it will be nice to 'touch base' with all you great
people again.
For A2, I will try to get a set of notes together so you good people know
where Lubuntu is headed for 11.10, as it is the precursor for 12.04 (LTS) we
need to get as many bugs ironed out as possible during the 11.10 cycle
(errr, you may recall Grub2 coming out in 9.10 :P ).
Lubuntu is also now popping it's toe into the water for accessibility, but
realistically this is a couple of cycles away - we simply do not have enough
devs. Accessibility could do themselves a favour, but we do have a meeting
coming up under Jono Bacon to allow us to ask questions. It is times like
this I miss Ranch Hand's 'say it as it is' attitude, although JM one of our
devs is no shrinking violet. I'm sure he and Ranch Hand would get on great
:P

My kindest regards to you and the rest of the testers,

Phill.
P.S. - Now go and dig me up a spare developer or two :D
@ Julien and JM - if there is any thing factually incorrect, please correct
me.



On Fri, Jun 3, 2011 at 6:47 PM, Lance lbsol...@yahoo.com wrote:

 First a brief intro. I'm Erick Brunzell at Launchpad, Lance at iso-testing
 (in which I've participated for over 3 years), and kansasnoob at Ubuntu
 forums.

 I'm quite glad to see that Lubuntu will soon become an official member of
 the Ubuntu family. I particularly look forward to the day that Lubuntu's
 images are included in Ubuntu's iso-testing.

 Anyway I obtained the Lubuntu Oneiric Alpha1 image here:

 http://people.ubuntu.com/~gilir/

 And naturally I encountered a few minor bugs. To expect any less this early
 in a dev cycle is insane, but I still felt they should be reported. The
 specific bugs are:

 1) The Lubuntu Alpha1 Live CD boots to a tty, so you have to type *startx*to 
 get the DE.

 2) The default DE lacks restart or shutdown buttons.

 3) Upon completing the installation I was asked whether to restart or keep
 using the Live DE as usual. I chose to restart and the CD ejected as
 expected but the screen was just blank. So I removed the CD, closed the tray
 and hit enter, but nothing happened. I tried some common key combos but
 finally had to use the reset button on my box to complete the restart.

 Of course none of these are serious or unexpected this early in a dev
 cycle, but I wanted to get my feet wet checking out bug filing against
 Lubuntu anyway, and I'm a bit puzzled.

 I'm used to iso-testing pure Ubuntu so all of the above bugs would be filed
 against 'casper' but I know these bugs were not present when I tested Ubuntu
 so I thought I should possibly file them against the meta-package
 'lubuntu-desktop' but that's a no-go.

 I'm just wondering if the meta-package 'lubuntu-desktop' should be added to
 launchpad as a bug filing option?

 I'm very impressed with the Lubuntu project and I hope my iso-testing
 skills may be helpful at some point, but I have no development skills. I'm
 just a tester.

 Apologies in advance if I was wrong posting in this manner.

 Sincerely,

 Lance

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[Lubuntu-desktop] Help pages

2011-06-03 Thread Phill Whiteside
 Hi julien,

As we progress towards 11.10, the two 'help areas' for documentation are
becoming impossible to keep in synch. I know you did ask if we could
manually divert every single page from
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/DocumentationHelp to
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu and initially I thought that it
was not a major undertaking. I was wrong.

I'd rather we take a slight hit with a general divert from the
DocumentationHelp go straight to the 'new' area, sooner rather than later.
There will be a notification on the old area, I need to check if setting up
a 'section' divert is possible. Regardless of that, we need to have the docs
on the community section and off the lubuntu dev section.

The down side? Old Bookmarks will be invalid.
The up side? We comply fully with best practices.

There is a summer of wiki coming up, and I have been told that as a part of
it, we can have eager volunteers crawl over every page and inform us /
correct any missing links. One of the few perks of being a wiki admin
person, if they need one for a task on any page / area I have agreed to
help.

As a wiki admin, I will ensure, and sworn to do, that there are backups held
of any and every page deleted both locally on my computer and on my server
(the one who holds the iso's).

With all that is going on, and the recent push to check the 'new' area, I do
feel that it is time to get this 'little' step done so that everyone knows
which page(s) to update.

@ everyone As per a wedding speak now, or forever hold your peace. The
initial transfer done by Zach was amazing, now we just need to finish it
off.

Regards,

Phill.

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] The need to improve Lubuntu bug filing

2011-06-03 Thread Chris
Hello Lance,

I haven't run oneiric yet, but I think the missing of shutdown/restart
buttons is due to not having GTK3 icons for that. We're hard at work in
creating the new themes for oneiric, which should be GTK3 ready. And just
pressing enter/return didn't do the trick on getting along with the
installer (bug 3)?

Welcome to the crew by the way.

With metta,

Chris Druif

On Sat, Jun 4, 2011 at 00:22, Phill Whiteside phi...@ubuntu.com wrote:

  hiyas kansasnoob,

 firstly, great to see you - I don't get onto the forum areas as much as I
 used to (or should do). The A1 is still built the 'old way' and is, afaik,
 just a toe stretching session for the new kernel to be included. There has
 been some work the apps done, along with deciding which applications we
 include by default. Pcman has a new pcmanfm out in the wild for us to break.
 Hooks for apport are on the TODO list and are being added, but the 1,000
 dedicated developers we have . err, well, I may have over estimated by
 998 are awaiting getting their teeth into the 'official' iso building
 system. This should be done for a2.

 The general page for 11.10 is at
 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Developers

 Progress on the apport hooks can be found at
 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Developers/TODO

 If you, or any of the testers on the main area would like to keep abreast
 of what Lubuntu is up to, please doe feel free to add the mailing list to
 your cluttered boxes (We don't send that many out!)
 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/GettingInvolved has the one click link to
 get the lubuntu discussions.

 Please give my regards to Ranch Hand, I must pop on and find out what
 better name he has for 11.10 - I will make a point of letting the testing
 area know when A2 comes out, but the a1 had little in the way of changes.

 Apart from anything else, it will be nice to 'touch base' with all you
 great people again.
 For A2, I will try to get a set of notes together so you good people know
 where Lubuntu is headed for 11.10, as it is the precursor for 12.04 (LTS) we
 need to get as many bugs ironed out as possible during the 11.10 cycle
 (errr, you may recall Grub2 coming out in 9.10 :P ).
 Lubuntu is also now popping it's toe into the water for accessibility, but
 realistically this is a couple of cycles away - we simply do not have enough
 devs. Accessibility could do themselves a favour, but we do have a meeting
 coming up under Jono Bacon to allow us to ask questions. It is times like
 this I miss Ranch Hand's 'say it as it is' attitude, although JM one of our
 devs is no shrinking violet. I'm sure he and Ranch Hand would get on great
 :P

 My kindest regards to you and the rest of the testers,

 Phill.
 P.S. - Now go and dig me up a spare developer or two :D
 @ Julien and JM - if there is any thing factually incorrect, please correct
 me.



 On Fri, Jun 3, 2011 at 6:47 PM, Lance lbsol...@yahoo.com wrote:

  First a brief intro. I'm Erick Brunzell at Launchpad, Lance at
 iso-testing (in which I've participated for over 3 years), and kansasnoob
 at Ubuntu forums.

 I'm quite glad to see that Lubuntu will soon become an official member of
 the Ubuntu family. I particularly look forward to the day that Lubuntu's
 images are included in Ubuntu's iso-testing.

 Anyway I obtained the Lubuntu Oneiric Alpha1 image here:

 http://people.ubuntu.com/~gilir/

 And naturally I encountered a few minor bugs. To expect any less this
 early in a dev cycle is insane, but I still felt they should be reported.
 The specific bugs are:

 1) The Lubuntu Alpha1 Live CD boots to a tty, so you have to type *startx
 * to get the DE.

 2) The default DE lacks restart or shutdown buttons.

 3) Upon completing the installation I was asked whether to restart or keep
 using the Live DE as usual. I chose to restart and the CD ejected as
 expected but the screen was just blank. So I removed the CD, closed the tray
 and hit enter, but nothing happened. I tried some common key combos but
 finally had to use the reset button on my box to complete the restart.

 Of course none of these are serious or unexpected this early in a dev
 cycle, but I wanted to get my feet wet checking out bug filing against
 Lubuntu anyway, and I'm a bit puzzled.

 I'm used to iso-testing pure Ubuntu so all of the above bugs would be
 filed against 'casper' but I know these bugs were not present when I tested
 Ubuntu so I thought I should possibly file them against the meta-package
 'lubuntu-desktop' but that's a no-go.

 I'm just wondering if the meta-package 'lubuntu-desktop' should be added
 to launchpad as a bug filing option?

 I'm very impressed with the Lubuntu project and I hope my iso-testing
 skills may be helpful at some point, but I have no development skills. I'm
 just a tester.

 Apologies in advance if I was wrong posting in this manner.

 Sincerely,

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Help pages

2011-06-03 Thread Jonathan Marsden
On 06/03/2011 06:32 PM, Phill Whiteside wrote:

 I know you did ask if we could manually divert every single page from
 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/DocumentationHelp to
 https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu and initially I thought that
 it was not a major undertaking. I was wrong.

Can't that be scripted?  If I remember rightly, a divert is just a magic
text string at the top of each page.  So a bulk edit of all those pages
should do it.  What I am I forgetting?

Jonathan

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Help pages

2011-06-03 Thread Chris
You are probably forgetting about direct redirect, not to the general area,
when a duplicate page is on the new area.

With metta,

Chris Druif
On Jun 4, 2011 3:59 AM, Jonathan Marsden jmars...@fastmail.fm wrote:
 On 06/03/2011 06:32 PM, Phill Whiteside wrote:

 I know you did ask if we could manually divert every single page from
 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/DocumentationHelp to
 https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu and initially I thought that
 it was not a major undertaking. I was wrong.

 Can't that be scripted? If I remember rightly, a divert is just a magic
 text string at the top of each page. So a bulk edit of all those pages
 should do it. What I am I forgetting?

 Jonathan

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Help pages

2011-06-03 Thread Phill Whiteside
Some pages have been renamed, the structure - especially for GetLubuntu and
TestLubuntu has really changed!

The addition of FAQ etc.

As with Dev, we either divert resources (which we do not have) to a
wonderfully smooth Apple Mac type transition, or we just get on with it and
make sure the bloody thing works... something that can be missed by these
larger corporations ;)

As for So a bulk edit of all those pages yeah, we have to find them 1st.
Hence my asking that ALL pages under the old DocumentHelp get the divert.
(Assuming this is possible, they've been updating the wiki systems).

regards,

Phill.



On Sat, Jun 4, 2011 at 2:59 AM, Jonathan Marsden jmars...@fastmail.fmwrote:

 On 06/03/2011 06:32 PM, Phill Whiteside wrote:

  I know you did ask if we could manually divert every single page from
  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/DocumentationHelp to
  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu and initially I thought that
  it was not a major undertaking. I was wrong.

 Can't that be scripted?  If I remember rightly, a divert is just a magic
 text string at the top of each page.  So a bulk edit of all those pages
 should do it.  What I am I forgetting?

 Jonathan




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