Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] [lubuntu-desktop] wifi problem
Hie, your wifi cart is : 06:00.0 Ethernet controller: Atheros Communications Inc. AR242x / AR542x Wireless Network Adapter (PCI-Express) (rev 01) I found some help on : http://wiki.debian.org/ath5k Do you have the ath5k module ? Try : modprobe -l | grep ath5k PS : What is your Lubuntu version ? On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 10:45 PM, g. duteil gdut...@free.fr wrote: Le 28/11/2011 16:57, Fridolyn SOMERS a écrit : Tu pourrais donner les versions de (L)Ubuntu ? et le résultat de lspci ? (could you give the (l)ubuntu version and lspci) je tenterais bien l'expérience virtualbox. C'est à dire ? On Sat, Nov 26, 2011 at 11:41 AM, g. duteil gdut...@free.fr mailto:gdut...@free.fr wrote: Le 23/11/2011 13:58, g. duteil a écrit : Hello, it's an atheros 5007 sorry __**___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~__**lubuntu-desktophttps://launchpad.net/%7E__lubuntu-desktop https://launchpad.net/%**7Elubuntu-desktophttps://launchpad.net/%7Elubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.__launch**pad.nethttp://launchpad.net mailto:lubuntu-desktop@lists.**launchpad.netlubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~__**lubuntu-desktophttps://launchpad.net/%7E__lubuntu-desktop https://launchpad.net/%**7Elubuntu-desktophttps://launchpad.net/%7Elubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/__**ListHelphttps://help.launchpad.net/__ListHelp https://help.launchpad.net/**ListHelphttps://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp Bonjour, j'ai quelques soucis avec l'anglais ;-) Donc sur un acer 5315 pas de wifi Que faire? Cela fonctionne tres bien avec ubuntu depuis j'ai reformaté mais je tenterais bien l'expérience virtualbox. Au plaisir de se lire __**___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~__**lubuntu-desktophttps://launchpad.net/%7E__lubuntu-desktop https://launchpad.net/%**7Elubuntu-desktophttps://launchpad.net/%7Elubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.__launch**pad.nethttp://launchpad.net mailto:lubuntu-desktop@lists.**launchpad.netlubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~__**lubuntu-desktophttps://launchpad.net/%7E__lubuntu-desktop https://launchpad.net/%**7Elubuntu-desktophttps://launchpad.net/%7Elubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/__**ListHelphttps://help.launchpad.net/__ListHelp https://help.launchpad.net/**ListHelphttps://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- Fridolyn SOMERS ICT engineer PROGILONE - Lyon - France fridolyn.som...@gmail.com mailto:fridolyn.somers@gmail.**comfridolyn.som...@gmail.com i attach my lspci.files -- Fridolyn SOMERS ICT engineer PROGILONE - Lyon - France fridolyn.som...@gmail.com ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] A few problems with Lubuntu 11.10
Hello Pierre, I'm glad to know that. Please let me know if the same issue will be back again. As for the Screensaver, while I was checking, I found weird thing: http://i43.tinypic.com/2m2jdcj.jpg There are two Processes of xscreensaver and both of them are working so when you stop it and go to your desktop, the other one will work and take you back to the screensaver so you need to stop it once more. However, Lock Screen in my case works ONLY when I force it. I unchecked that option from xscreensaver : http://i39.tinypic.com/6nr2c1.jpg In my case, Lock Screen After is unchecked and I have no issues even with the two processes of xscreensaver. Not really sure how to fix your issue? Did you manage to fix it? Thanks! On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 8:48 PM, Pierre Gobin pierre.go...@sfr.fr wrote: Hi, Your solutions works for me. Thanks a lot ! By Lock Screen After, I was talking about the option in XScreenSaver. This option isn't checked on my system, but my screen locks after slepp. Regards, Pierre Gobin -- Best Regards, *amjjawad* Lubuntu One Stop Thread (Mega Thread)http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1844755 My Wiki Page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/amjjawad | My Launchpadhttps://launchpad.net/%7Eamjjawad | My Ubuntu Forum Profile http://ubuntuforums.org/member.php?u=941822 *My Actions Speak Louder Than My Words ||** ** I walk by faith, not by sight **|| Imagination is more important than Knowledge || **Keep It Simple and Short* ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] A few problems with Lubuntu 11.10
No, I didn't fix it. I have two processes of xscreensaver too. I killed one of them, and I made sure that Lock Screen option was unchecked : my screen still locks. But are we in the same case ? I'm talking about the fact that my screen locks after sleep ; maybe it is a normal behavior ? Without sleeping, I am not sure that my screen locks. Hello Pierre, I'm glad to know that. Please let me know if the same issue will be back again. As for the Screensaver, while I was checking, I found weird thing: http://i43.tinypic.com/2m2jdcj.jpg There are two Processes of xscreensaver and both of them are working so when you stop it and go to your desktop, the other one will work and take you back to the screensaver so you need to stop it once more. However, Lock Screen in my case works ONLY when I force it. I unchecked that option from xscreensaver : http://i39.tinypic.com/6nr2c1.jpg In my case, Lock Screen After is unchecked and I have no issues even with the two processes of xscreensaver. Not really sure how to fix your issue? Did you manage to fix it? Thanks! On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 8:48 PM, Pierre Gobin pierre.go...@sfr.fr mailto:pierre.go...@sfr.fr wrote: Hi, Your solutions works for me. Thanks a lot ! By Lock Screen After, I was talking about the option in XScreenSaver. This option isn't checked on my system, but my screen locks after slepp. Regards, Pierre Gobin -- Best Regards, *amjjawad* Lubuntu One Stop Thread (Mega Thread) http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1844755 My Wiki Page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/amjjawad| My Launchpad https://launchpad.net/%7Eamjjawad| My Ubuntu Forum Profile http://ubuntuforums.org/member.php?u=941822 *My Actions Speak Louder Than My Words ||I walk by faith, not by sight **|| Imagination is more important than Knowledge || **Keep It Simple and Short* ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] A few problems with Lubuntu 11.10
Sometimes, thinking about the simplest step/solution could be helpful. Please, try to check that option Lock Screen After from xscreensaver main window and wait until the screensaver starts. After that, move your mouse or press any key and type your password, to go screensaver and uncheck Lock Screen After option. Let's see what could happen. As for the two processes, I was just mentioning what I do have and that could be irreverent in your case. I think it's a bug but maybe I'm wrong. On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 8:09 PM, Pierre Gobin pierre.go...@sfr.fr wrote: No, I didn't fix it. I have two processes of xscreensaver too. I killed one of them, and I made sure that Lock Screen option was unchecked : my screen still locks. But are we in the same case ? I'm talking about the fact that my screen locks after sleep ; maybe it is a normal behavior ? Without sleeping, I am not sure that my screen locks. Hello Pierre, I'm glad to know that. Please let me know if the same issue will be back again. As for the Screensaver, while I was checking, I found weird thing: http://i43.tinypic.com/2m2jdcj.jpg There are two Processes of xscreensaver and both of them are working so when you stop it and go to your desktop, the other one will work and take you back to the screensaver so you need to stop it once more. However, Lock Screen in my case works ONLY when I force it. I unchecked that option from xscreensaver : http://i39.tinypic.com/6nr2c1.jpg In my case, Lock Screen After is unchecked and I have no issues even with the two processes of xscreensaver. Not really sure how to fix your issue? Did you manage to fix it? Thanks! On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 8:48 PM, Pierre Gobin pierre.go...@sfr.fr wrote: Hi, Your solutions works for me. Thanks a lot ! By Lock Screen After, I was talking about the option in XScreenSaver. This option isn't checked on my system, but my screen locks after slepp. Regards, Pierre Gobin -- Best Regards, *amjjawad* Lubuntu One Stop Thread (Mega Thread)http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1844755 My Wiki Page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/amjjawad | My Launchpadhttps://launchpad.net/%7Eamjjawad | My Ubuntu Forum Profile http://ubuntuforums.org/member.php?u=941822 *My Actions Speak Louder Than My Words ||** ** I walk by faith, not by sight **|| Imagination is more important than Knowledge || **Keep It Simple and Short* -- Best Regards, *amjjawad* Lubuntu One Stop Thread (Mega Thread)http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1844755 My Wiki Page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/amjjawad | My Launchpadhttps://launchpad.net/%7Eamjjawad | My Ubuntu Forum Profile http://ubuntuforums.org/member.php?u=941822 *My Actions Speak Louder Than My Words ||** ** I walk by faith, not by sight **|| Imagination is more important than Knowledge || **Keep It Simple and Short* ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu 12.04 Alpha 1 Testing
Hi, The 1st Alpha of Lubuntu 12.04 is planned for Thurday. We started the ISO testing for Alpha 1, so if you want to help, you can join the testing process :) If you know how to use a virtual machine (Virtualbox) and how to install Lubuntu, you can help ! :) You can follow the steps on this wiki page : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/ISO/Procedures . We uses a new ISO tracker to collect the results : http://91.189.93.73 . There are 4 ISOs that you can test : Live CD (Desktop) and Alternate ISO, both on i386 and amd64. All need to be tested, to be able to publish an Alpha 1. To be short, just download the ISO, run it into VirtualBox, check the testcase on the page of the ISO, and report the result. You don't need any technical knowledge, and if you have questions, you can ask on #lubuntu or #ubuntu-testing. Thanks in advance ! :) Regards, Julien Lavergne ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Website lubuntu.net design
Le 11/18/2011 04:53 AM, Julien Lavergne a écrit : Since there are some interests in lubuntu.net, I made a wiki page to gather ideas about it. Feel free to add you ideas to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Marketing/Website_Plan. We can after decide a plan for the website. Just a reminder, ideas for the website should be gather on the wiki page : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Marketing/Website_Plan Please keep all the comments here. If people want to participe to the Lubuntu life, they have to create a login for the wiki. The wiki is our main tool to coordinate the work of the team, I don't want 2 different sources of information. We can have a discussion during the weekly meeting of next week, to try to decide something. Regards, Julien Lavergne ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Lubuntu-desktop] Reminder : IRC meeting tomorrow 20h UTC + Agenda
Hi, Just a reminder, there is a IRC meeting tomorrow, be sure to add the items you want to discuss to the agenda : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/IRC%20Meetings/Agenda Regards, Julien Lavergne ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu 12.04 Alpha 1 Testing
Hello Julien, I was unable to open this: http://91.189.93.73 Site is blocked by my ISP and anyway it doesn't seem a valid IP address anyway. Another thing: I understand testing in Virtual Machines (VirtualBox) is SAFE but will that be the same as testing on real installation? For someone like me who has spare PC and/or HDD, I don't think it will be a problem but for someone who doesn't have, I think VirtualBox comes in handy. Am I right? I had some personal issues and problems in real life so not sure if I'll be active in Testing but will do my best. Keep up the good work and thanks for all your efforts :) Ali/amjjawad On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 10:38 PM, Julien Lavergne gi...@ubuntu.com wrote: Hi, The 1st Alpha of Lubuntu 12.04 is planned for Thurday. We started the ISO testing for Alpha 1, so if you want to help, you can join the testing process :) If you know how to use a virtual machine (Virtualbox) and how to install Lubuntu, you can help ! :) You can follow the steps on this wiki page : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/ISO/Procedures . We uses a new ISO tracker to collect the results : http://91.189.93.73 . There are 4 ISOs that you can test : Live CD (Desktop) and Alternate ISO, both on i386 and amd64. All need to be tested, to be able to publish an Alpha 1. To be short, just download the ISO, run it into VirtualBox, check the testcase on the page of the ISO, and report the result. You don't need any technical knowledge, and if you have questions, you can ask on #lubuntu or #ubuntu-testing. Thanks in advance ! :) Regards, Julien Lavergne ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- Best Regards, *amjjawad* Lubuntu One Stop Thread (Mega Thread)http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1844755 My Wiki Page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/amjjawad | My Launchpadhttps://launchpad.net/%7Eamjjawad | My Ubuntu Forum Profile http://ubuntuforums.org/member.php?u=941822 *My Actions Speak Louder Than My Words ||** ** I walk by faith, not by sight **|| Imagination is more important than Knowledge || **Keep It Simple and Short* ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] A few problems with Lubuntu 11.10
After a few tests, my screen is only locked after Sleep, no longer with the only screensaver. Do you have the same behavior after sleep ? Sometimes, thinking about the simplest step/solution could be helpful. Please, try to check that option Lock Screen After from xscreensaver main window and wait until the screensaver starts. After that, move your mouse or press any key and type your password, to go screensaver and uncheck Lock Screen After option. Let's see what could happen. As for the two processes, I was just mentioning what I do have and that could be irreverent in your case. I think it's a bug but maybe I'm wrong. On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 8:09 PM, Pierre Gobin pierre.go...@sfr.fr mailto:pierre.go...@sfr.fr wrote: No, I didn't fix it. I have two processes of xscreensaver too. I killed one of them, and I made sure that Lock Screen option was unchecked : my screen still locks. But are we in the same case ? I'm talking about the fact that my screen locks after sleep ; maybe it is a normal behavior ? Without sleeping, I am not sure that my screen locks. Hello Pierre, I'm glad to know that. Please let me know if the same issue will be back again. As for the Screensaver, while I was checking, I found weird thing: http://i43.tinypic.com/2m2jdcj.jpg There are two Processes of xscreensaver and both of them are working so when you stop it and go to your desktop, the other one will work and take you back to the screensaver so you need to stop it once more. However, Lock Screen in my case works ONLY when I force it. I unchecked that option from xscreensaver : http://i39.tinypic.com/6nr2c1.jpg In my case, Lock Screen After is unchecked and I have no issues even with the two processes of xscreensaver. Not really sure how to fix your issue? Did you manage to fix it? Thanks! On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 8:48 PM, Pierre Gobin pierre.go...@sfr.fr mailto:pierre.go...@sfr.fr wrote: Hi, Your solutions works for me. Thanks a lot ! By Lock Screen After, I was talking about the option in XScreenSaver. This option isn't checked on my system, but my screen locks after slepp. Regards, Pierre Gobin -- Best Regards, *amjjawad* Lubuntu One Stop Thread (Mega Thread) http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1844755 My Wiki Page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/amjjawad| My Launchpad https://launchpad.net/%7Eamjjawad| My Ubuntu Forum Profile http://ubuntuforums.org/member.php?u=941822 *My Actions Speak Louder Than My Words ||I walk by faith, not by sight **|| Imagination is more important than Knowledge || **Keep It Simple and Short* -- Best Regards, *amjjawad* Lubuntu One Stop Thread (Mega Thread) http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1844755 My Wiki Page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/amjjawad| My Launchpad https://launchpad.net/%7Eamjjawad| My Ubuntu Forum Profile http://ubuntuforums.org/member.php?u=941822 *My Actions Speak Louder Than My Words ||I walk by faith, not by sight **|| Imagination is more important than Knowledge || **Keep It Simple and Short* ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] A few problems with Lubuntu 11.10
Are you saying that you disabled the screensaver and your screen is locked after some period of time? If that is what you mean then No, it doesn't happen with me. On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 1:41 AM, Pierre Gobin pierre.go...@sfr.fr wrote: After a few tests, my screen is only locked after Sleep, no longer with the only screensaver. Do you have the same behavior after sleep ? Sometimes, thinking about the simplest step/solution could be helpful. Please, try to check that option Lock Screen After from xscreensaver main window and wait until the screensaver starts. After that, move your mouse or press any key and type your password, to go screensaver and uncheck Lock Screen After option. Let's see what could happen. As for the two processes, I was just mentioning what I do have and that could be irreverent in your case. I think it's a bug but maybe I'm wrong. On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 8:09 PM, Pierre Gobin pierre.go...@sfr.fr wrote: No, I didn't fix it. I have two processes of xscreensaver too. I killed one of them, and I made sure that Lock Screen option was unchecked : my screen still locks. But are we in the same case ? I'm talking about the fact that my screen locks after sleep ; maybe it is a normal behavior ? Without sleeping, I am not sure that my screen locks. Hello Pierre, I'm glad to know that. Please let me know if the same issue will be back again. As for the Screensaver, while I was checking, I found weird thing: http://i43.tinypic.com/2m2jdcj.jpg There are two Processes of xscreensaver and both of them are working so when you stop it and go to your desktop, the other one will work and take you back to the screensaver so you need to stop it once more. However, Lock Screen in my case works ONLY when I force it. I unchecked that option from xscreensaver : http://i39.tinypic.com/6nr2c1.jpg In my case, Lock Screen After is unchecked and I have no issues even with the two processes of xscreensaver. Not really sure how to fix your issue? Did you manage to fix it? Thanks! On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 8:48 PM, Pierre Gobin pierre.go...@sfr.frwrote: Hi, Your solutions works for me. Thanks a lot ! By Lock Screen After, I was talking about the option in XScreenSaver. This option isn't checked on my system, but my screen locks after slepp. Regards, Pierre Gobin -- Best Regards, *amjjawad* Lubuntu One Stop Thread (Mega Thread)http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1844755 My Wiki Page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/amjjawad | My Launchpadhttps://launchpad.net/%7Eamjjawad | My Ubuntu Forum Profile http://ubuntuforums.org/member.php?u=941822 *My Actions Speak Louder Than My Words ||** ** I walk by faith, not by sight **|| Imagination is more important than Knowledge || **Keep It Simple and Short* -- Best Regards, *amjjawad* Lubuntu One Stop Thread (Mega Thread)http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1844755 My Wiki Page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/amjjawad | My Launchpadhttps://launchpad.net/%7Eamjjawad | My Ubuntu Forum Profile http://ubuntuforums.org/member.php?u=941822 *My Actions Speak Louder Than My Words ||** ** I walk by faith, not by sight **|| Imagination is more important than Knowledge || **Keep It Simple and Short* -- Best Regards, *amjjawad* Lubuntu One Stop Thread (Mega Thread)http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1844755 My Wiki Page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/amjjawad | My Launchpadhttps://launchpad.net/%7Eamjjawad | My Ubuntu Forum Profile http://ubuntuforums.org/member.php?u=941822 *My Actions Speak Louder Than My Words ||** ** I walk by faith, not by sight **|| Imagination is more important than Knowledge || **Keep It Simple and Short* ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Lubuntu-desktop] LXSession improvements
Hi, I'm working since some times to some improvements to lxsession. With my experiments, I ended to rewrite some part in Vala, since C have problems with me :) You can find the result on the options branch of lxsession : http://lxde.git.sourceforge.net/git/gitweb.cgi?p=lxde/lxsession;a=shortlog;h=refs/heads/options The main new features are : * Add initial applications by default support (panel, screensaver ...). It's a way to configure applications started by default, rather than just adding a line in autostart * Add initial options support (Keymap, XRandr, Keyring). It's the ability to add some options add start-up, like a screen resolution (instead of using a .desktop file in autostart directory). * Add initial Dbus support (draft of org.lxde.SessionManager interface, GNOME compat mode) You can have a look at the new desktop.conf file for the new options available : http://lxde.git.sourceforge.net/git/gitweb.cgi?p=lxde/lxsession;a=blob;f=desktop.conf.example;h=8ae0636a452b6a2e8e8728c039c5d3f0397996c4;hb=refs/heads/options It should be already usable, the only regression I know is the logout function of lxsession-logout which is broken. I'll appreciate comments on this :) Especialy on the Dbus interface, what do you expect from a session manager to be available via Dbus ? Do you expect other features from the session manager ? I would like in the future to take the maintainance of lxsession and try to add more improvements, like : * Duplicate check, to not autostart an application twice * Merge back lxpolkit and lxsession-edit changes in lxsession * More application by default, and more automatic / smart detections * Finalize the Dbus interface * Improve lxsession-edit to configure the new options. Regards, Julien Lavergne ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Lubuntu-desktop] lubuntu proxy configuration
Is there any graphical tool to set proxy configuration? I'm usig lubuntu 11.10 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ Escuelas Libres :: Porque la educación es mucho mejor cuando es libre www.escuelaslibres.org.ar --- Para entrenar, cualquier programa sirve. Para educar, sólo Software Libre. (Federico Heinz) --- ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] [Lxde-list] LXSession improvements
Looks quite good generally and source code written in vala is much more
readable then GObject/C. :-)
Some comments:
- initial applications by default stuff:
gnome classifies applications by stages rather than types.
some applications should be loadad during initialization stage.
some are loaded along with the desktop panel, such as some applets
some are loaded when the panel is loaded and when the desktop icons are
being loaded
others are loaded thereafter.
To ensure applications are loaded at right time, interaction with
session manager is needed.
For example, the desktop panel should inform the session manager when
it's fully loaded.
Then, the session manager enters next stage and loads applications of
the next stage.
Applications which cannot communicate with the session manager cannot
support this.
Executing a command earlier doesn't guarantee that it will finish
loading earlier. This is an issue to solve.
- Regarding to the implementation, an application class with a data
member named type is enough IMHO.
for example:
public enum AppType {
WM,
PANEL,
DESKTOP
}
public class App {
private AppType type;
}
Defining a class registering a new GObject class at runtime and create
much overhead since C has no object supports. OO is not that cheap with
GObject though using it is quite easy in Vala. I'd avoid overuse of classes.
To reduce overhead of GObject, we can use [Compact] attribute when
defining classes when some features provided by GObject, like signals, is
not absolutely needed.
- Use of LibGee
Most of the time, static arrays or built-in data strucures provided by
glib itself should be enough. Maybe we don't need LibGee here.
- Initial options support is good, especially the keyboard and xrandr
one.
- Plugin actually is a good idea. I wanted to do that for quite a long
time, but I don't have the time to do it.
- For Dbus interface, I'd suggest using the same interface as gnome
rather than using our own namespace. Most of the gnome applications and in
the future, gtk3 applications, has built-in supports to interact with gnome
session manager. If we use different dbus interfaces, than we need to patch
every applications to add lxsession support, which can be very painful.
- For lxsession-edit, merging it with lxsession should be good for
maintainance since it's useless when used along.
- If you're going to take its maintaince, it's highly appreciated.
Thanks for the great job!
On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 6:08 AM, Julien Lavergne gi...@ubuntu.com wrote:
Hi,
I'm working since some times to some improvements to lxsession.
With my experiments, I ended to rewrite some part in Vala, since C have
problems with me :)
You can find the result on the options branch of lxsession :
http://lxde.git.sourceforge.net/git/gitweb.cgi?p=lxde/lxsession;a=shortlog;h=refs/heads/options
The main new features are :
* Add initial applications by default support (panel, screensaver ...).
It's a way to configure applications started by default, rather than just
adding a line in autostart
* Add initial options support (Keymap, XRandr, Keyring). It's the ability
to add some options add start-up, like a screen resolution (instead of
using a .desktop file in autostart directory).
* Add initial Dbus support (draft of org.lxde.SessionManager interface,
GNOME compat mode)
You can have a look at the new desktop.conf file for the new options
available :
http://lxde.git.sourceforge.net/git/gitweb.cgi?p=lxde/lxsession;a=blob;f=desktop.conf.example;h=8ae0636a452b6a2e8e8728c039c5d3f0397996c4;hb=refs/heads/options
It should be already usable, the only regression I know is the logout
function of lxsession-logout which is broken.
I'll appreciate comments on this :) Especialy on the Dbus interface, what
do you expect from a session manager to be available via Dbus ? Do you
expect other features from the session manager ?
I would like in the future to take the maintainance of lxsession and try
to add more improvements, like :
* Duplicate check, to not autostart an application twice
* Merge back lxpolkit and lxsession-edit changes in lxsession
* More application by default, and more automatic / smart detections
* Finalize the Dbus interface
* Improve lxsession-edit to configure the new options.
Regards,
Julien Lavergne
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] [Lxde-list] LXSession improvements
For the session manager, I also have some other ideas. Is it possible for lxsession to expose an interface for client tools to change environment variables. For example, clients can ask lxsession to do setenv(http_proxy, ...), so later newly launched applications will use new proxy settings. We can also use this to change locale settings on the fly. Of course, there should be some limitations and some environment variables should not be changeable. Is this possible? ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
