Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Fw: Dropping i386 non-PAE as a supported kernel flavour in Precise Pangolin

2012-01-06 Thread Jared Norris
On 6 January 2012 19:17, Steven sten...@gmail.com wrote:



 That command doesn't give any output:
 $ grep pae /proc/cpuinfo
 $

 It was also apparent when I ran a Lubuntu Precise daily-live CD for the
 first time the other day and got this:
 This kernel requires the following features not present on the CPU:
 pae
 Unable to boot - please use a kernel appropriate for your CPU.

 -Steven

Wow, I stand corrected. I have a VERY similar CPU here in my Dell
laptop that is around the same vintage that is PAE supported. This
does suggest the problem is more widespread than originally thought as
this is pretty much the target market for Lubuntu, older laptops.


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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Fw: Dropping i386 non-PAE as a supported kernel flavour in Precise Pangolin

2012-01-06 Thread Jared Norris
On 6 January 2012 19:57, amjjawad HOOHAA amjja...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi,

 I went through the whole thread (37 emails so far) and noticed very simple
 thing that I already have noticed long time ago (I know what most of you
 will say) which is: we do NOT have accurate database of Lubuntu Users in
 general and those who are still using OLD machines and I mean VERY old
 here.

 I like such kind of discussion and I tend to agree with some opinions and
 disagree with others but after all, this is very healthy activity
 (discussion) but ... as always ... the real question is: isn't it pointless
 to discuss such thing without REAL figures? some guys already pointed that
 out, I guess.

 Long story short, my simple and humble opinion is: we need a group of people
 who do a survey to obtain such figures. No, I have no smart ideas of HOWTO
 do that but if we could discuss about this, that would be VERY helpful.
 Perhaps we are wasting our time here and there are only 2-3 users with such
 old machines? for me, Lubuntu 10.04 didn't work on this:
 http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1590614 while Mint LXDE 9 did. Both
 may be using the same kernel but I'm not really sure why Lubuntu didn't
 work. Also, perhaps they are many users that will be affected with that
 drop? so we need some figures.

 Just a thought I'd like to share with all, as usual :)

 Thanks!

Yeah it's been put forward as an idea before but again, without an
accurate way to get the information the straw poll we're conducting
here is just as valid as an online survey because this is essentially
an online survey.


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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Minimal Install issue in Wiki

2011-12-27 Thread Jared Norris
On 28 December 2011 13:46, Hùng Trần nguyentieu...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi all,

 I just checked our Minimal Install guide
 at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/DocumentationHelp/MinimalInstall.

 I don't know why we use sudo apt-get install --no-install-recommends
 lubuntu-desktop command to install Lubuntu. With --no-install-recommends
 we only have Lubuntu with PCManFM, Leafpad, LXTerminal, Synaptic, Update
 Manager and Preferred Applications.

 As I understand, Minimal Install is for people who want to get a full
 Lubuntu desktop by installing via a Ubuntu minimal CD or USB because they
 can't use Ubiquity.
 Using --no-install-recommends could make newbie confused when their
 desktops almost have nothing.

 Regards,
 TRẦN Duy Hùng
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My understanding is different although I don't know which of us is
correct. For mine if all you're trying to do is avoid Ubiquity then
why not just use the alternate installer? To me the minimal
installation is just that, the bare minimum. From what I understand
the minimum install is aimed at REALLY low end computers or people not
wanting to download lots of data over the internet. If you have a
really low end computer you only want the bare minimum, if you don't
want to download large ISOs why would you want to download all the
other stuff anyway?

I'm happy to be proved wrong but I just have a different understanding
and hoping to clear the issue for both our sakes.

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] please unsubscribe me. you don't make it easy like other places

2011-12-26 Thread Jared Norris
On 26 December 2011 15:50, Aryeh Beitz aryehbe...@gmail.com wrote:


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It is very easy. For yourself and anyone else wanting to modify their
settings please see the footer from Aryeh's message. It has a link to
the mailing list information, what address to post to, where to go to
unsubscribe, and where to get more help.

Aryeh, essentially all you need to do is go to
https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop and click on the unsubscribe
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Sun/Oracle Java

2011-12-04 Thread Jared Norris
On 5 December 2011 15:11, Benny Hult hul...@gmail.com wrote:
 FAQ is still targeted for IRC users.
 People come and asks for the same question time after time. That's why
 I created it. But if you feel there's no point in it, I wish you will
 completely remove it from the wiki area, as you
 mailing-list besserwissers seems to have a better solution for this.

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Benny,

I'm sorry for the confusion here, I think the FAQ is great. The only
thing is I think it should be for Lubuntu specific issues. Other
issues already have pages set up for them so maybe include them but
just as a link? People might be getting the wrong idea here though,
the issue wasn't that it existed, but when it was basically a rewrite
of something that already existed maybe a link would be better for
that topic. That being said a lot of things on that page are Lubuntu
specific (getting things to start on login, etc) and therefore that is
the perfect spot for them.

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Fw: Dropping i386 non-PAE as a supported kernel flavour in Precise Pangolin

2011-11-19 Thread Jared Norris
On 20 November 2011 00:38, Jean-Pierre Vidal Piesset jpx...@gmail.com wrote:
 I would like to do some tests with the latest ubuntu on my old amd-k6 (wich
 runs Lubuntu 10.04 perfectly) but support for that CPU it's been dropped :(

 Then again, it's NOT only for the people who have a voice here: it's the
 users that have one of those pc wich want to use it and CAN'T

 It's a shame that an OS intended for old hardware can't run on hardware that
 can run it :(

 EVEN if it's 5% of the target machines... 5% of a huge number is still a
 huge number.

 Plus, there's no modern OS that can run there...

 OK, *maybe* some very oldl machines should be renewed... but there are
 people without the capability of doing so.

 AND i don't understand, the code is there... what's the benefit of cutting
 it?

 Just what i think about dropping support of any hardware.

 -- jpxsat

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This is what we're trying to work out, how many people actually have
and use hardware that will be affected. So far you are the only one
reporting the fact that it won't work on your hardware. If anyone else
can run the command listed earlier in the thread and let us know if
there is no output we can gauge if it is going to be 5% or if it's
going to be 0.005%.

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Fw: Dropping i386 non-PAE as a supported kernel flavour in Precise Pangolin

2011-11-18 Thread Jared Norris
Has anyone read the posts from the developers here? Julien asked for
comment, Jonathan did some research and found that only Pentium I and
a limited number of Pentium II mobiles and a sprinkling of even less
other types of CPUs would be affected. I'm not certain but to me even
for the Lubuntu goals this seems to be a very small user base.

Can we stop thinking the worst and get back to going about the process
of seeing if it will actually hinder the Lubuntu goals or not. The
Ubuntu developers have only put it out as a something that MAY happen
depending on feedback. We need to decide what sort of feedback the
team needs to give.

So to this end, my question is, is there a simple command people can
run to see if their CPU can run PAE kernels? I would have thought if
cat /proc/cpuinfo | grep pae would not give any output if the CPUs
weren't capable? I'm not an expert so just wanting to confirm. That
way, instead of just complaining we can request users run this, see if
they will be affected and report back. We can then generate a team
stance and report back to the Ubuntu developers with some real data.


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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Fw: Dropping i386 non-PAE as a supported kernel flavour in Precise Pangolin

2011-11-18 Thread Jared Norris
On 19 November 2011 16:00, Jonathan Marsden jmars...@fastmail.fm wrote:
 On 11/18/2011 05:43 PM, Jared Norris wrote:

 So to this end, my question is, is there a simple command people can
 run to see if their CPU can run PAE kernels? I would have thought if
 cat /proc/cpuinfo | grep pae would not give any output if the CPUs
 weren't capable? I'm not an expert so just wanting to confirm.


 That works, but is inelegant.  You win a UUOC award, see
 http://partmaps.org/era/unix/award.html grin!

 My suggested equivalent (but shorter, clearer and more efficient)
 command would be

  grep pae /proc/cpuinfo

 Jonathan


Hah thanks, I thought I did well for someone who couldn't program a
hello world script, goes to show why you are great for the Lubuntu
community (keeping things efficient) and I am only capable of
documenting how great you and Julien are ;)

So time for everyone to run the command and let us know if you get no
output. Receiving no output from the command indicates that it's
possible your CPU might be one of the ones they are talking about
removing support for by dropping PAE kernels. That will be the true
test of if this will impact us at all. If no one reports having a
problem then really all this is a storm in a teacup.

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Fwd: Launchpad: Reminder about lubuntu-desktop's PPAs

2011-11-17 Thread Jared Norris
On 17 November 2011 12:42, Mario Behling m...@mariobehling.de wrote:
 Dear all,

 Launchpads/Canonical policies demand that the lubuntu team becomes
 moderated. More info below. I had to change the group to moderated.

 Thanks,

 Mario




I can totally understand the policy but wondered if there was a
different solution. Would it be useful to keep lubuntu-desktop open
and switch the PPA to another team like
https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-packaging for example? For mine I'd
really only want to see the developers having access to upload to the
PPA anyway, especially now we're growing in size with the nature of
becoming official. Moderating the lubuntu-desktop group still means
there are hundreds of people able to upload to the PPA unless I don't
understand Launchpad teams properly (which is also highly likely).

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu - One Stop Thread

2011-11-03 Thread Jared Norris
 On Thu, Nov 3, 2011 at 8:16 AM, James Gifford ja...@jamesrgifford.com
 wrote:

 Not to sound like I'm pushing or anything, but in regards to that 4.2K
 posts thread, most of them useless but some of them useful, this is
 where the Ask Ubuntu format is good, since the accepted answer (in
 otherwords, the one that is most helpful) will *always* be on top.

 Just a thought, but the mythbuntu team is migrating from the forums to
 AU over the next several weeks, no reason why Lubuntu couldn't migrate
 over as well.

 Cheers,
 James Gifford




My personal preference is to use each segment to the best of it's
ability. The help.u.c/community wiki is useful for howto guides useful
to large audiences, the forums are good for one on one assistance, the
mailing list usually gets help reasonably quickly, IRC is instant and
AU has it's own little place.

We have so many ways to contribute information to the general public,
I think as long as we choose the best option for the type of
information we're trying to request or present then it doesn't really
matter *where* it is.

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Last tests before 11.10 release

2011-10-12 Thread Jared Norris
On 12 October 2011 21:09, Ali Linx amjja...@gmail.com wrote:
 This is the 3rd time I download the latest iso and the download failed and
 disconnected. I don't know what shall I do? I tried to download at different
 times but same.

 As you can see, it always stuck and that's the best speed I can reach. I
 wish I could upgrade my internet but it's very costly for a jobless guy like
 me.

 Will give it another try and hopefully it will work this time.


I would suggest you look into the torrent options. They will allow you
to stop and start the download without compromising the data.


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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu Manual?

2011-07-28 Thread Jared Norris
On 29 July 2011 09:12, Swapnil Bhartiya swapnil.bhart...@gmail.com wrote:
 On 07/29/2011 12:51 AM, Phill Whiteside wrote:

 Hi,

 sorry for the delay in answering, it does take a couple of days for me
 to get in touch with people and await for them to respond.

 My current thinking and proposal is that we do actually add a Lubuntu
 section to the main manual. This will cover parts that are specifically
 Lubuntu. It is, however, no minor task as we would be altering a lot of
 pages to include references to Lubuntu for specific tasks. I'd like a
 bit more time to chat with the Manual team and ask them what they suggest.

 Regards,

 Phill.

 Hi,

 Thanks. I have a proposal
 1. Do we keep this discussion here or discuss within a group, so that what
 ever conversation you have with the team and see what they suggest.
 2. I can create a TOC (table of content) based on the Ubuntu manual and
 share with the team. We have experience with manuals as we also created
 Linux Mint manual and Fedora 15 manual. So, we can create a TOC and focus on
 what is specific to Lubuntu (especially installing on variety of hardware
 and driver issues, if any).
 3. We can also add section on light weight apps, which don't come
 pre-installed but can be useful for users for specific tasks.
 4. We can also have a tips/tricks chapter to better utilize Lubuntu.
 5. The entire manual will be created from scratch. Don't worry about
 man-hours we will have to invest in creating it. If we start early we can
 deliver the manual the day Lubuntu 11.10 is launched.

 Note: we can also create additional YouTube manual.

 Swapnil

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I think the excitement about documentation is great, you can never
work too hard on documentation. However I don't see the value in
creating yet another source. I'd be more excited to see people
contributing to the already existing documentation on the Wiki [0],
the help site [1] [2] and the semi-official manual [3]. Dispersing
effort on multiple projects to achieve the same goal seems a bit
counter-productive to me but I guess that's the great thing about
Linux, everyone is free to do as they please.

[0] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu
[1] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation
[2] https://help.ubuntu.com/11.04/ubuntu-help/index.html
[3] http://ubuntu-manual.org/

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu Alpha 2 cancelled

2011-07-22 Thread Jared Norris
On 23 July 2011 00:34, Julien Lavergne gi...@ubuntu.com wrote:
 Hi,

 Just to confirm that there will be no Alpha 2 of Lubuntu Oneiric. Works
 are in progress to make it usable. I hope to have an Alpha 3 to test.

 For the build with Ubuntu ISO build system, we still blocked by
 technical problems on Canonical side. I'll post when I have more news
 about it.

 Regards,
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Sorry to hear this but no great loss, we just keep our alpha 1s up to
date and it will be more or less the same. Sing out if there are any
particular bugs you would like us to try and reproduce or test.

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Ubuntu Developer Week - Preparation

2011-07-12 Thread Jared Norris
On 13 July 2011 14:50, Phill Whiteside phi...@ubuntu.com wrote:
 I will NOT say that Lubuntu is 'BETTER' that other variants. so, for those
 who have quietly said so, forget it. You have brought no proof. That Lubuntu
 can run on lower spec is true. I REALLY think that would be the wrong way of
 going about things.
 Deadline is to day, if no one else has any more input from what has been
 said, I will ensure we have a decent presentation.

 Regards,
 Phill.



Phill,

I think the previous emails covered the topics well in a nice flowing
presentation. If I can't be there in person I'll be lurking in the
corner as always and be able to read over it. Thanks for taking the
time to prepare and present it.

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] ozone2 updates

2011-06-28 Thread Jared Norris
2011/6/28 神癒礁湖 (Rafael Laguna) rafaellag...@gmail.com

 **
 Ok, I'm beggining, I know, but I like to show you all every sketch.

 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Artwork/Incoming/Oneiric/Ozone

 BTW, again suggestions about being green, but I also explained our
 corporative needs. But I've got to mention it. In my opinion, better not
 moving too much (or going away from standards) until we're really adopted
 by Canonical.

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As always, amazing.

My personal preference is the standard one on the left but I'm known to be
a bit conservative.

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] wiki

2011-06-22 Thread Jared Norris
2011/6/22 神癒礁湖 (Rafael Laguna) rafaellag...@gmail.com

 First of all, my apologies for sending (again) for a nerd reason, Harry
 Potter silly things. Contact cards repaired.

 Ok, does anybody has problems accessing the Ubuntu wiki? It seems like
 there's no link between OpenID and Ubuntu. Anyway, I'm doing some
 experiments with a new wallpaper. You can check it out right here:

 http://lubuntublog.blogspot.com/2011/06/refreshing-desktop-mockup.html

 Please, feedback.

 PS. Sorry, again. I'm ashamed.


The wiki is in a state of upgrade, they appear to have load issues on the
login side of things but it's definitely still being looked at. It seems to
work fine sometimes and other times be a bit slow. I've noticed some 502
proxy errors when logging in. Fortunately the person responsible for the
upgrades is in my LoCo so I get to pester them with constant updates on how
it's going and they in return try to fix it.

The backgrounds look great by the way, you always produce quality work!


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[Lubuntu-desktop] Fwd: LXDE shutown dependency/permissions?

2011-06-06 Thread Jared Norris
Sorry, meant to include the mailing list in my reply as well - forwarded on
for continuity.

-- Forwarded message --
From: Jared Norris jrnor...@gmail.com
Date: 6 June 2011 20:21
Subject: Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] LXDE shutown dependency/permissions?
To: Eric rvw...@gmail.com




On 6 June 2011 11:47, Eric rvw...@gmail.com wrote:

 Greetings folks,

 Although I am running a minimal install of Ubuntu 11.04 with LXDE, I
 hope someone may help.

 Normally running Debian I add user to powerdev group for shutdown and
 restart options to appear in the shutdown menu.  This group however
 does not exist.  I'm not sure if I am missing a dependency, or if a
 different group or modification will give my user these options.

 I must add the even logging to LXDE using 'startx' with user 'root',
 these options are not displayed.  Only 'Logout' and 'Cancel' are
 displayed on the shutdown menu.

 The reason I did not install Lubuntu right off, is due to 512MB hard
 drive space on my WebDT366 LX800.  A larger drive will be near what I
 paid for the device ~ $80 US.

 Thanks for taking the time,

 Cheers,


 Eric


Gday Eric,

It's head_victim from IRC, soon after you left one of our very knowledgeable
developers popped into the room and read the scroll back.

I take no credit for the answer but just wanted to pass on the information
apparently the issue with the missing shutdown and reboot buttons has been
traced to starting X using the startx command rather than the correct
startlubuntu command. Apparently this means you were running a default
LXDE theme not actually Lubuntu.

Thanks jmarsden for the information and I'm sure if you have more questions
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] The need to improve Lubuntu bug filing

2011-06-05 Thread Jared Norris
 I have just installed alpha 1 in a virtual box environment tonight. I will
add my comments in case this helps. If anyone needs anything specific tested
in the alpha 1 to confirm something let me know.

On 5 June 2011 22:48, Julien Lavergne gi...@ubuntu.com wrote:

 Hi,

 Thanks for your help. However, as I said in Alpha 1 announcement, bugs
 on the ISO will probably be invalid when we will switch to the official
 ISO building infrastructure.

 Le Friday 03 June 2011 à 10:47 -0700, Lance a écrit :
  1) The Lubuntu Alpha1 Live CD boots to a tty, so you have to type
  startx to get the DE.
 I saw it sometimes, restarting lxdm or just waiting fix the problem.


I can't reproduce this issue


  2) The default DE lacks restart or shutdown buttons.
 Screenshot needed :)


I have them, they are located in the lower right hand corner in the bar.
It's a little circle power icon.


  3) Upon completing the installation I was asked whether to restart or
  keep using the Live DE as usual. I chose to restart and the CD ejected
  as expected but the screen was just blank. So I removed the CD, closed
  the tray and hit enter, but nothing happened. I tried some common key
  combos but finally had to use the reset button on my box to complete
  the restart.
 Never see it, but pressing reboot button should not hurt too much :)


Again, I didn't see this behaviour, it asked me to remove the media and
press enter. As it was a virtual box I just hit enter and it reset
correctly.

None of this is to disprove your bugs but just to say I couldn't reproduce
them in a virtual environment so it could perhaps be something to do with
hardware? I'm not a guru with these things so just trying to add to the
information pool

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[Lubuntu-desktop] Possible bug?

2011-06-02 Thread Jared Norris
Good morning all,

I've come across something very weird this morning that I've never seen
before. Trying to open any program via the gui menu or taskbar icons results
in them trying to open as root (I noticed because PCmanFM threw errors that
I didn't have permission to open the /home/user location). I'm logged in as
a normal user and whenever I open programs from the terminal prompt it
functions as expected.

Should I file a bug or does any one have any other suggestions?

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Possible bug?

2011-06-02 Thread Jared Norris
On 3 June 2011 12:48, James Gifford ja...@jamesrgifford.com wrote:

 I'm on 11.04 and I'm not getting that behavior either.

 --James Gifford
 http://jamesrgifford.com

 On Jun 2, 2011, at 20:11, matthew byers faintstlsa...@gmail.com wrote:

 What release are you running? I am on 10.10 and i didnt get that behavior.



This is only a fairly recent occurrence or I would have picked up on it I
would have thought. Does anyone have any suggestions on the best way to
troubleshoot this sort of issue? I would simply log out and then back in but
this is my main machine where I value my uptime so would prefer to leave
that until last ditch effort.

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] cd wallet

2011-05-03 Thread Jared Norris
On 3 May 2011 01:14, Chris cyber.dr...@gmail.com wrote:

 Jared,

 They grey cd is for lightscribe if I'm not mistaken. By the way, can
 Rafael also put them on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Marketing ?
 Thanks.

 With metta,

 Chris Druif


Well I feel stupid, I was going on 36 hours awake but I should have picked
up on that. Thanks for the tip Chris.

But still, damn fine job Rafael, I'd love to see a heap of them printed and
handed out.

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] cd wallet

2011-05-01 Thread Jared Norris
Rafael,

As always your attention to detail is outstanding. I personally prefer the
blue CD but they are both amazing. Well done, keep up the great work.

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2011/4/30 神癒礁湖 (Rafael Laguna) rafaellag...@gmail.com

  Hello, boys and girls. Here's the wallet. Lubuntu style, not Canonical
 style.

 Any changes / suggestions / ideas / hates? Vote, baby, vote (a Deee-Lite
 song).


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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu and updates (wiki standards)

2011-05-01 Thread Jared Norris
Jonathon,

I'll reply as best as I can inline to try and make it easier to follow. If
others have more up to date or correct information please jump in

On 1 May 2011 16:38, Jonathan Marsden jmars...@fastmail.fm wrote:


 QUESTION #1:

 One issue I did not find clear info on is the combining of a #title line
 to provide a readable title when you also need tags.  Per
 https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Tag :

  Tags should be added at the very top of a page, before any other
  text.

 However, this causes #title to fail (it gets treated as normal text and
 displayed!).  But putting #title before the tag includes cause the
 includes not to display, as far as I can tell!

 What is the correct way to have both a #title line and tags on the same
 page?

 A page on which this is currently attempted (but not really working) is

  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DocumentationTeam/StyleGuide


I spent an hour trying to solve this and the best I can come up with is that
that page is referencing a help.u.c link (Tag/ContentCleanup) from within a
wiki.u.c site so it probably needs to correct, full link as the help and
wiki u.c sites are sort of linked but still separate I believe. Someone else
can correct me if I'm wrong.


 QUESTION #2:

 That style guide also claims to apply to the help wiki, but it has a
 major section about docbook tags in it, at
 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DocumentationTeam/StyleGuide/DocbookConventions
 .  Can we *really* add docbook markup tags to wiki pages and expect them
 to do the right thing?  That would be very cool, and sometimes useful --
 but I don't think it would work!


The documentation team is not just about wiki pages. They are moving more
and more into DocBook work and further away from wikis as far as I can tell
from the Documentation mailing list. So this information is put up on the
wiki but actually refers to their work in the DocBook documentation. So in
short, I wouldn't use DocBook markup on the wiki.

I hope that helps you out a bit, please let me know if you were chasing more
information on either of the questions.


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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu and updates

2011-04-29 Thread Jared Norris
On 29 April 2011 16:14, Jonathan Marsden jmars...@fastmail.fm wrote:

 On 04/25/2011 10:59 PM, Jared Norris wrote:

  On 26 April 2011 15:27, Phill Whiteside phi...@vpolink.com wrote:

  We have to manually subscribe to each page, which is a pain.

  I have set up to subscribe to /Lubuntu/.* on both wiki.u.c and
  help.u.c which does subscribe you to every change for all sub pages
  as well.

 I thought there *had* to be a better way than manually subscribing to
 each page, and was about to try to prove it on a local MediaWiki
 installation -- thanks for saving me the effort :)


Took me a while to find it but I've subscribed to 3 whole teams pages and
subpageson the wiki so I get lots of mail now.



 That should take care of the wiki team tracking changes others make.



 Personally, if I find something I think needs changing in a wiki, I'm
 fairly likely to 'just do it' rather than seek out someone else to make
 the edit for me, unless I am unsure about what the right content
 should be.  Wiki's are all about empowering everyone to make changes as
 needed to improve things :)


Just doing it is a great way to get everything down, sometimes the
formatting can be a pain in the backside to keep it up to standard though
(from Ubuntu's perspective). So I'd always encourage anyone and everyone to
add information to the wiki pages as they find them either wrong or not
complete. If you aren't sure and are doing more than a little edit by all
means just drop by the IRC channel or mailing list and ask someone to peruse
it for you. We're more than happy to help with all the trimmings, just
having someone willing to do the content more than makes our job easy (I do
try to keep an eye to the edits as they come through on the subscribed pages
as well though but it doesn't hurt to double check and if there are a lot it
takes a while to go through them all).



 Jonathan



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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu and updates

2011-04-25 Thread Jared Norris
 On 26 April 2011 15:27, Phill Whiteside phi...@vpolink.com wrote:

 Hiyas jonathan,

 We have to manually subscribe to each page, which is a pain.


I have set up to subscribe to /Lubuntu/.* on both wiki.u.c and help.u.c
which does subscribe you to every change for all sub pages as well. This
only tells me of changes made though not ones that need to be changed.


 As I get better I'll discuss setting up a wiki team, but the admin / wiki
 gang should all be on the lubuntu main mailing list. With the loss of the
 Team Leader of the ubuntu-beginners-wiki and ubuntu-youth team for real life
 issues, things are a bit hectic. Please bear with us normal service will
 be resumed soon. We are working our socks off behind the scenes. Any team
 that we are involved in need only give any of us a 'shout' and you will have
 us arrive en-masse.
 Getting a replacement laptop for myself and a dev on SII and Speechcontrol
 has taken some doing. I'm hopefully going to get my phillw.net email
 address system unlocked shortly, my friend in USA locked it down once he was
 aware of the armed robbery. The good news is that once unlocked you can have
 an @lubuntu email address that will feed to your standard email account. I
 *think* I ordered 2,000 email addresses, but as Derrick has 20,000 we are
 not going to run out!


I concur, unfortunately my LoCo is sucking up a large amount of time for me
at the moment so I'm not exactly being overly proactive in searching out
more work. More than happy to help when I can I just don't have time to sit
and search through pages to see what needs updating.


 We need to be told of alterations / errors by the devs or members of
 teams we are psychotic not psychic :D


As above. If anyone notices changes that need to be made please email the
list or ping me on IRC (my nick is head_victim - I'm not always at my
computer but it's rare that I'm not online).


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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Upgrading Synaptic

2011-04-20 Thread Jared Norris
 Good morning all,

Just thought I'd throw in my 2 cents:

On 21 April 2011 03:26, Julien Lavergne gi...@ubuntu.com wrote:


 I already tested it on my testing system, and it made my system unusable
 because of the indexing.
 I also can't see the real benefit over the regular search option in
 Synaptic.

 Regards,
 Julien Lavergne



I agree 100% percent with this. Whenever update-apt-xapian runs my computer
becomes completely useless for some time and has also overheated some of my
friend's computers. I think something like this is best dealt with by adding
a note to the release notes? We do get a fair few questions on this in IRC
each release so a note in the release notes would probably assist most
users.


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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Any major must fix before Beta issues left in Lubuntu?

2011-03-30 Thread Jared Norris
 Unfortunately, it will be very difficult to reduce the memory footprint
 of the installer for 11.04. We used the same than Ubuntu, which have
 some advantages (ex: shared development) and disadvantages (ex: memory
 usage is not the priority of the ubiquity devs).

 Installer need some improvements (reducing memory usage, add option to
 install only lubuntu-core ...), but it's not the easiest part of
 Lubuntu / Ubuntu :)

The other question this poses is, is it really necessary to have a
graphical installer as the default for Lubuntu? I just thought I'd ask
the question, I personally have no qualms installing by either method.
I understand the rationale for both having a graphical installer and
using the Ubuntu default installation method but if it's going to go
against one of the main functions of Lubuntu it might be worth
considering the text based installer as the default? I just thought
I'd throw it out there so all ideas are discussed, obviously, for
11.04 this is not going to happen but if the memory requirements
continue to build I think having this brought up now would be useful
to think about.

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Any major must fix before Beta issues left in Lubuntu?

2011-03-30 Thread Jared Norris
 It needs to be a base system + X11 Otherwise it won't work.
 The other problem is the enormous effort and work we need to put in such a
 project. (e.g. I can promise you lots and lots of bugs, and yes I created an
 installer for ZevenOS-Neptune on my own, so I have a little experience in
 this)


Sorry I didn't meant to suggest adding more work by writing our own installer.

 My suggestions just promote the alternate install cd for everyone who can't
 use the graphical (live) installer. Maybe we can one day also use the debian-
 live-installer (which is basically the textinstaller from debian but able to
 run and install from a live system) as an alternative to ubiquity.
 The problem I see from switching from ubiquity to X would be that lubuntu will
 never become an official flavor of ubuntu. (even kubuntu uses ubiquity under 
 the
 hood and only created a kde'ish interface for it)

I think the idea of promoting the alternate might work, maybe make it
an equal of the ubiquity installer in LubuntuLand instead of a poor
cousin as far as website space and documentation? This would also mean
that there is no extra work in making it happen but still provides all
the information for those wanting a light weight installation.

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Really odd keyboard and mouse issue

2011-03-16 Thread Jared Norris
On 16 March 2011 16:00, UndiFineD undifi...@gmail.com wrote:
 Somehow I get the feeling 'scheduler' is in place here
 are you running a custom kernel ?

Not that I'm aware of, uname -r suggests my current kernel is
2.6.35-27 generic pae. I'm not knowledgeable enough to start rolling
my own.

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Really odd keyboard and mouse issue

2011-03-15 Thread Jared Norris
 How often is every now and then?  Once a day?  Once a month? :)  If it
 is very infrequent, you will probably need to run monitoring tools all
 the time, so you can catch it in the act.


The computer is on 24/7 but I'm obviously not at it, so for example
today it has done it 3 times while I'm at the computer already in the
space of a few hours. Other days it's not at all.

 (1) Based on the above, I would suggest running system monitoring tools
 to check what else the machine is doing when it is lagging your
 keyboard/mouse input.  htop, iotop, jnettop will do for simple
 text-based what is doing a lot of work on my PC checking. vmstat and
 iostat might be worth a look too.

I completely forgot about iotop, I've been running htop and can't see
anything, the CPU is idling along at 1 - 3 % (3.2 P4 Prescott) and the
RAM is using around 20% (2GB). Last time I had a really weird problem
with a computer it turned out to be a faulty CPU cooler connection so
I've been keeping an eye to the temps and they are all fine.


 (2) If you are comfortable working at the command line, you could also
 consider running the machine with no GUI (no X) -- no LXDE stuff at all,
 just plain old text mode consoles) for a while.  If the issue goes away,
 you would then suspect that whatever is causing the problem is X related
 in some way.  With enough time, you could then start X and run just an
 xterm or LXterminal window and see if that lags or not... and so on...
 slowly building back up towards a full LXDE GUI.  Knowing what was added
 that started the problem up again would be a very big clue.

Ah I was hoping this would have been tested with the SSH because this
is my main IRC, IM, Web Browsing and Email machine here at home.

 (3) If you have another spare test machine, try setting it up as close
 to identical to the first one as you can, documenting how to do that
 step by step.  Then, see if you can reproduce the problem on the second
 machine too.  If you can reproduce it there, you now have accurate and
 tested step-by-step how to reproduce information for the bug report,
 which could be very handy for others trying to duplicate and track down
 the issue :)
 Realistically, this kind of weird stuff happens occasionally issue is
 going to be hard to track down.  Hopefully the above suggestions will
 help, if you decide you have the patience to really work on doing that.

Thanks for your thoughts I have already started up iotop so I'll see
how that goes. I was half hoping there would be a oh I had that
problem and did this solution, but I think that was a bit of wishful
thinking. I will make sure I let everyone know if I find a solution
though as this is really odd. Feel free to keep the suggestions
coming, it's really bugging me.


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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Audio players

2011-02-26 Thread Jared Norris
On 27 February 2011 13:10, Jean-Pierre Vidal Piesset jpx...@gmail.com wrote:
 Mike:

 2011/2/26 Jean-Pierre Vidal Piesset jpx...@gmail.com

 2011/2/26 Mike Nokel mno...@gmail.com

 Hi!
 I have just tested some audio players in my Lubuntu Maverick and I want
 to share my experience with you. First of all, my testing machine was Asus
 EEE PC 1015 pn. It has Atom N550 inside and 2 GB of memory.
 Firstly, I have installed deadbeef. I don't know whether it is a bug or
 not but after playing from one to three songs it stops playing at all. So
 this player was removed.
 Then I have read about audacious in this mail's list. I have installed it
 and it looked very nice, but used ~28% of my CPU. This was too big for me,
 so this player was also removed.
 Then I have found decibel audio player. This one used ~18% of my CPU and
 had very simple, but nice interface.
 I have also tried pogo audio player. It used ~16% of my CPU.
 So, now about two winners in this small compettion in my opinion. First
 of them is pragha. It is very fast, has simple but nice interface, is coded
 in C++ and uses ~14% of my CPU. And the second is alsaplayer. It has nice
 interface, equalizer and some available plugins that can imitate winamp
 style. It uses ~12% of my CPU. So I think that this is the best one for me.
 P.S. All of these players use nearly the same amount of memory.
 P.P.S. All digits were taken from htop utility.
 Best regards,
 Mike Nokel

 Mike:
 I tried severall players for Lubuntu, and for me audacious win because:
 - CPU doesn't get over 18% on an P3 at 768(1000) mhz
 - It was the app consumming less RAM among all (this is a hard point to me
 because at the time i did those tests i use to have 256ram)
 - I can throw to it almost anything, it's codecs are very large
 The amount of CPU you're experiencing it's maybe due that you tried it
 freshly installed or changed from GTK skin to winamp skin or viceversa... in
 those cases the cpu consuming gets crazy (don't know why). Just try it after
 a reboot without touching anything to the conf :)
 In an old machine i have, it is the only player that i could get to work
 without messing with the sound output.
 Julien also commented something about audacious development that was a
 good thing to Lubuntu...
 Anyway, i will test those players you're pointing, maybe effectively one
 of them is better than audacious... i'm having some desapointments with the
 latest versions of it (but i hope they will fix it)


 --
 Jpxsat

 Decibel has gstreamer dependecies... something that in Lubuntu i don't think
 we are very friend of.
 Pogo and Pragha are not in the repositories (at least for 10.04) so it
 generates a problem for the Lubuntu team as they have to take in charge
 another package... (and so, i didn't even tried them)
 Alsa-Player is in the repos, no huge dependencies and it really impressed me
 about the cpu consumption, but taking a quick look at it, resulted that it's
 a very incomplete software... starting with the fact that it has no autoplay
 :( Audacious if a little more heavy for the CPU but it's a very complete
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Just a quick question. I have been using exaile for years now on gnome
and was wondering if it would be suitable? It has some gstreamer
dependencies though so if this is a deal breaker I guess not. The only
thing is I have been using it as a full features program on a quad
core box and it idles along under 1% cpu usage but I don't have the
ability to test it on older hardware so thought I'd just mention and
see if anyone has the ability to test this or not.

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Audio players

2011-02-26 Thread Jared Norris
On 27 February 2011 14:44, Jean-Pierre Vidal Piesset jpx...@gmail.com wrote:
 2011/2/27 Jared Norris jrnor...@gmail.com

 On 27 February 2011 13:10, Jean-Pierre Vidal Piesset jpx...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  Mike:
 
  2011/2/26 Jean-Pierre Vidal Piesset jpx...@gmail.com
 
  2011/2/26 Mike Nokel mno...@gmail.com
 
  Hi!
  I have just tested some audio players in my Lubuntu Maverick and I
  want
  to share my experience with you. First of all, my testing machine was
  Asus
  EEE PC 1015 pn. It has Atom N550 inside and 2 GB of memory.
  Firstly, I have installed deadbeef. I don't know whether it is a bug
  or
  not but after playing from one to three songs it stops playing at all.
  So
  this player was removed.
  Then I have read about audacious in this mail's list. I have installed
  it
  and it looked very nice, but used ~28% of my CPU. This was too big for
  me,
  so this player was also removed.
  Then I have found decibel audio player. This one used ~18% of my CPU
  and
  had very simple, but nice interface.
  I have also tried pogo audio player. It used ~16% of my CPU.
  So, now about two winners in this small compettion in my opinion.
  First
  of them is pragha. It is very fast, has simple but nice interface, is
  coded
  in C++ and uses ~14% of my CPU. And the second is alsaplayer. It has
  nice
  interface, equalizer and some available plugins that can imitate
  winamp
  style. It uses ~12% of my CPU. So I think that this is the best one
  for me.
  P.S. All of these players use nearly the same amount of memory.
  P.P.S. All digits were taken from htop utility.
  Best regards,
  Mike Nokel
 
  Mike:
  I tried severall players for Lubuntu, and for me audacious win because:
  - CPU doesn't get over 18% on an P3 at 768(1000) mhz
  - It was the app consumming less RAM among all (this is a hard point to
  me
  because at the time i did those tests i use to have 256ram)
  - I can throw to it almost anything, it's codecs are very large
  The amount of CPU you're experiencing it's maybe due that you tried it
  freshly installed or changed from GTK skin to winamp skin or
  viceversa... in
  those cases the cpu consuming gets crazy (don't know why). Just try it
  after
  a reboot without touching anything to the conf :)
  In an old machine i have, it is the only player that i could get to
  work
  without messing with the sound output.
  Julien also commented something about audacious development that was a
  good thing to Lubuntu...
  Anyway, i will test those players you're pointing, maybe effectively
  one
  of them is better than audacious... i'm having some desapointments with
  the
  latest versions of it (but i hope they will fix it)
 
 
  --
  Jpxsat
 
  Decibel has gstreamer dependecies... something that in Lubuntu i don't
  think
  we are very friend of.
  Pogo and Pragha are not in the repositories (at least for 10.04) so it
  generates a problem for the Lubuntu team as they have to take in charge
  another package... (and so, i didn't even tried them)
  Alsa-Player is in the repos, no huge dependencies and it really
  impressed me
  about the cpu consumption, but taking a quick look at it, resulted that
  it's
  a very incomplete software... starting with the fact that it has no
  autoplay
  :( Audacious if a little more heavy for the CPU but it's a very complete
  piece of software ;)
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 Just a quick question. I have been using exaile for years now on gnome
 and was wondering if it would be suitable? It has some gstreamer
 dependencies though so if this is a deal breaker I guess not. The only
 thing is I have been using it as a full features program on a quad
 core box and it idles along under 1% cpu usage but I don't have the
 ability to test it on older hardware so thought I'd just mention and
 see if anyone has the ability to test this or not.

 Regards,

 Jared Norris JP(Qual) BBehSc(Psych)
 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JaredNorris


 Just tested Exaile, the CPU runs fine (17~25%), but it's a little more than
 Audacious (13~17%). But i can see crearly why is not an option for Lubuntu:
 it consumes 40mb Ram vs Audacious that consumes 17~18mb Ram
 Besides, for simplicity packages audacious are just 2... for exaile there
 are plenty of it (wich i don't know if it's a bad thing or not, but an app
 with just 2 packages seems simplier to me ;)



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Thanks for testing that, sorry it's not a real option but I've just
found it reasonably good for large play lists so

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Next IRC meetings : Sunday, February 20, 2011, 17h GMT

2011-02-20 Thread Jared Norris
On 21 February 2011 04:11, Julien Lavergne gi...@ubuntu.com wrote:
 Le mardi 15 février 2011 à 00:11 +0100, Julien Lavergne a écrit :
 The last meetings was last year, so it's time for another one :)

 I registered a meeting on #ubuntu-meeting on Sunday, February 20, 2011,
 17h GMT. Let me know if the schedule is good or not for you.

 The Agenda is here : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Meetings/20110220
 Feel free to add items to discuss, even if you are not able to be at the
 meeting (but please answer to this mail in this case :)).

 You can find the result of the meeting on the wiki page :
 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Meetings/20110220

 Regards,
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Julien,

Thanks for the ping but sorry I'd fallen asleep earlier, I was trying
to stay up but had had a long day (I realise we can't make meeting
times to suit everyone so I'm not offended). I just a read over the
logs and some interesting things there. The LightDM looks promising
and the new theme looks good. I had heard some information that some
people were having performance problems with the theme on the but
other people are suggestion gtkperf should be a good measuring stick
for it. So I was thinking that if you have hardware that doesn't seem
to work with the new theme it would be good for all of us if you would
be able to run this gtkperf on your system to make sure the results
line up. Other than that, good job, keep it up.

Regards,

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu Natty Alpha 2 delayed

2011-02-01 Thread Jared Norris
On 2 February 2011 09:29, Julien Lavergne gi...@ubuntu.com wrote:

 Hi,

 Due to hardware failure on the system which generate the ISO (my computer 
 ...), Alpha 2 will be delayed, probably this week-end or next week.

 Sorry :-/

 Regards,
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Julien,

I have no idea about the process so please excuse my ignorance but if
the process is documented and the parts are available online I will
have no qualms assisting with this if that suits, just shoot me an
email if you'd like (or IRC). But again, only if it's not going to
create MORE work for you.

Regards,

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Members list

2011-01-31 Thread Jared Norris
On 1 February 2011 03:21, Phill Whiteside phi...@phillw.net wrote:
 Hiyas Jared,

 I've added a Time Zone column, now I just need everyone to go back and edit
 their entries! I can see the sence in having it ordered by timezone.  Once
 it is completed I can group it as per the idea at
 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BeginnersTeam/Mentors
 But, as ever, I await comments.

 Regards,

 Phill.

 On 31 January 2011 11:52, Jared Norris jrnor...@gmail.com wrote:

 On 31 January 2011 20:44, Phill Whiteside phi...@ubuntu.com wrote:
  Hiyas team,
 
  I've had a couple of people suggest that we put the
  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Get%20Involved/WhoWeAre
  page into some sort of order. I can do it by name, IRC nick or language
  (language being my preferred one), the other suggestion is that we add a
  time-zone column and order it by that. Let me know what you all think, I
  know adding a TZ column means you all have to and edit your entries. Let
  me
  know of you thoughts on the matter.
 
  Regards,
 
  Phill.
  --
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 Phil,

 I think some sort of order will be needed (any list over 5 or 6 people
 long really needs some sort of order in my opinion). I like the idea
 of the time zone because then it gives people an idea of when you will
 be around as well. After time zone then first name should be used I
 think. Well that's my 2 cents anyway

 Regards,

 Jared Norris
 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JaredNorris



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 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/phillw



Good morning Phill  Lubuntu Team,

I hope you don't mind but I have gone through and changed the Time
Zone column to the first column because if we're organising based up
that it makes it easier to read if it's the first column (let me know
if you don't agree). I have also organised them by the time zone data
where it was available and put in a ? as a marker of where people can
update their own.

regards,

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Members list

2011-01-31 Thread Jared Norris
On 1 February 2011 10:16, Phill Whiteside phi...@phillw.net wrote:
 Jared,

 There is never an issue with you editing wiki pages! I just thew the column
 in to get some data in it. I was planning to get Daniel to re-order the
 table once there was some data on it. It's how padawans learn :)

 Regards,

 Phill.

 On 31 January 2011 23:55, Jared Norris jrnor...@gmail.com wrote:

 On 1 February 2011 03:21, Phill Whiteside phi...@phillw.net wrote:
  Hiyas Jared,
 
  I've added a Time Zone column, now I just need everyone to go back and
  edit
  their entries! I can see the sence in having it ordered by timezone.
  Once
  it is completed I can group it as per the idea at
  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BeginnersTeam/Mentors
  But, as ever, I await comments.
 
  Regards,
 
  Phill.
 
  On 31 January 2011 11:52, Jared Norris jrnor...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  On 31 January 2011 20:44, Phill Whiteside phi...@ubuntu.com wrote:
   Hiyas team,
  
   I've had a couple of people suggest that we put the
   https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Get%20Involved/WhoWeAre
   page into some sort of order. I can do it by name, IRC nick or
   language
   (language being my preferred one), the other suggestion is that we
   add a
   time-zone column and order it by that. Let me know what you all
   think, I
   know adding a TZ column means you all have to and edit your entries.
   Let
   me
   know of you thoughts on the matter.
  
   Regards,
  
   Phill.
   --
   https://wiki.ubuntu.com/phillw
  
  
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  Phil,
 
  I think some sort of order will be needed (any list over 5 or 6 people
  long really needs some sort of order in my opinion). I like the idea
  of the time zone because then it gives people an idea of when you will
  be around as well. After time zone then first name should be used I
  think. Well that's my 2 cents anyway
 
  Regards,
 
  Jared Norris
  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JaredNorris
 
 
 
  --
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 Good morning Phill  Lubuntu Team,

 I hope you don't mind but I have gone through and changed the Time
 Zone column to the first column because if we're organising based up
 that it makes it easier to read if it's the first column (let me know
 if you don't agree). I have also organised them by the time zone data
 where it was available and put in a ? as a marker of where people can
 update their own.

 regards,

 Jared Norris
 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JaredNorris



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Ah so sorry for stealing people's learning tools! I'll not touch it
again for a while now :)

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Advertising

2011-01-19 Thread Jared Norris
On 19 January 2011 18:31, Leszek Lesner leszek.les...@web.de wrote:
 Am Mittwoch 19 Januar 2011, um 00:10:20 schrieb Jared Norris:
 Good morning all,

 I'm running a stand at a linux conference here in Australia and I'm
 looking to get a collection of screen casts or advertising videos
 together to display on the stand. To this end I thought it would be
 good to have one or two Lubuntu ones as well. I know about the screen
 casts on the website but these are mainly how to which I will use if
 I need to in the end but I would prefer one that was more advertising
 material. If you know of any please let me know as it is not this
 Saturday but the one following (sorry for the short notice.

 Regards,

 Jared Norris
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 I can create a short demo video I guess.
 Ideas would be appreciated.


Leszek,

Thanks for the offer. Firstly let me say I'm far from a marketing or
advertising guru so please, feel free to change anything I suggest and
I really won't be offended and others may even have suggestions.

All I was thinking was something that could show that you can do
everything you need on older/inexpensive hardware. So a screen cast
showing a boot up (I'm not sure that's possible) and then showing off
the bundled (sometimes lesser known about) programs that make Lubuntu
lighter but still functional. If we can work into it some sort of
system description (conky on the desktop perhaps?) to show that it is
doing it on a smaller footprint computer. Really just to show that
there is alternatives out there with functional options.

I was thinking it could be anything from 2 minutes long up until 30
minutes (I don't expect it to be too long though, just saying the
length really isn't important) and I wouldn't bother with a soundtrack
unless others would make use of it as I probably won't even have
speakers available.

I understand if you don't have time in the next week or so but even if
it's not ready for my exhibit surely it would benefit others. Thanks
heaps for your interest.


Regards,

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Advertising

2011-01-19 Thread Jared Norris
On 19 January 2011 19:31, Yorvyk yorvik.ubu...@googlemail.com wrote:
 On Wed, 19 Jan 2011 09:20:47 +
 Yorvyk yorvik.ubu...@googlemail.com wrote:

 On Wed, 19 Jan 2011 09:10:20 +1000
 Jared Norris jrnor...@gmail.com wrote:

  Good morning all,
 
  I'm running a stand at a linux conference here in Australia and I'm
  looking to get a collection of screen casts or advertising videos
  together to display on the stand. To this end I thought it would be
  good to have one or two Lubuntu ones as well. I know about the screen
  casts on the website but these are mainly how to which I will use if
  I need to in the end but I would prefer one that was more advertising
  material. If you know of any please let me know as it is not this
  Saturday but the one following (sorry for the short notice.
 

 
 Jared, ask on the UK mailing list.  Somebody on there has something they 
 show at barcamps, etc. while manning a table doing installs.


 That should have been 'I'll ask... ', so I've forwarded your mail to the UK 
 list.

 --
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Steve,

Thanks heaps mate, appreciated.

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Advertising

2011-01-19 Thread Jared Norris
On 19 January 2011 22:48, Leszek Lesner leszek.les...@web.de wrote:
 Am Mittwoch 19 Januar 2011, um 10:13:28 schrieb Jared Norris:
 On 19 January 2011 18:31, Leszek Lesner leszek.les...@web.de wrote:
  Am Mittwoch 19 Januar 2011, um 00:10:20 schrieb Jared Norris:
  Good morning all,
 
  I'm running a stand at a linux conference here in Australia and I'm
  looking to get a collection of screen casts or advertising videos
  together to display on the stand. To this end I thought it would be
  good to have one or two Lubuntu ones as well. I know about the screen
  casts on the website but these are mainly how to which I will use if
  I need to in the end but I would prefer one that was more advertising
  material. If you know of any please let me know as it is not this
  Saturday but the one following (sorry for the short notice.
 
  Regards,
 
  Jared Norris
  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JaredNorris
 
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  I can create a short demo video I guess.
  Ideas would be appreciated.

 Leszek,

 Thanks for the offer. Firstly let me say I'm far from a marketing or
 advertising guru so please, feel free to change anything I suggest and
 I really won't be offended and others may even have suggestions.

 All I was thinking was something that could show that you can do
 everything you need on older/inexpensive hardware. So a screen cast
 showing a boot up (I'm not sure that's possible) and then showing off
 the bundled (sometimes lesser known about) programs that make Lubuntu
 lighter but still functional. If we can work into it some sort of
 system description (conky on the desktop perhaps?) to show that it is
 doing it on a smaller footprint computer. Really just to show that
 there is alternatives out there with functional options.

 I was thinking it could be anything from 2 minutes long up until 30
 minutes (I don't expect it to be too long though, just saying the
 length really isn't important) and I wouldn't bother with a soundtrack
 unless others would make use of it as I probably won't even have
 speakers available.

 I understand if you don't have time in the next week or so but even if
 it's not ready for my exhibit surely it would benefit others. Thanks
 heaps for your interest.


 Regards,

 Jared Norris
 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JaredNorris

 Hmm... 2 minutes for a ad is  a long time.
 Showing the booting process is somehow boring I guess.
 But I showed off some of the apps included in Lubuntu and created a short
 little ad. Hope you enjoy it.

 http://blip.tv/file/4651366

 Direct Download to HD WebM Version: http://blip.tv/file/get/Llelectronics-
 LubuntuAD224.webm
 Direct Download to HD Mp4 (h264) : http://blip.tv/file/get/Llelectronics-
 LubuntuAD901.mp4

 Sadly no OGG Theora version, as libtheora seems to strip down some text
 labeling delays.


Looks great mate, nice and shiny. I have a nice Lubuntu one now
alongside http://design.canonical.com/2010/10/introducing-ubuntu-the-movie/
just need a couple more and I'll loop them together on a display. I
really appreciate the effort.

Regards,

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[Lubuntu-desktop] Documentation Day

2011-01-19 Thread Jared Norris
Good Morning Team Lubuntu,

As it's now 0030 am here in Brisbane I thought I'd kick off the
Lubuntu documentation day. Details of what needs doing is available
here - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/SubTeams/DocumentationSubTeam

Please if you know of anything that needs fixing email us here on the
list or add it to the wiki so we can work towards making the Lubuntu
documentation as clear and easy to follow as possible. If anyone has
any ideas about what needs documenting that isn't already covered on
the help pages this is a good chance to get it looked at.

Happy hunting

Regards,

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Documentation Day

2011-01-19 Thread Jared Norris
On 20 January 2011 03:23, Andrew Woodhead andrew.woodhead...@gmail.com wrote:


 On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 5:13 PM, Andrew Woodhead
 andrew.woodhead...@gmail.com wrote:


 On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 2:35 PM, Jared Norris jrnor...@gmail.com wrote:

 Good Morning Team Lubuntu,

 As it's now 0030 am here in Brisbane I thought I'd kick off the
 Lubuntu documentation day. Details of what needs doing is available
 here - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/SubTeams/DocumentationSubTeam

 Please if you know of anything that needs fixing email us here on the
 list or add it to the wiki so we can work towards making the Lubuntu
 documentation as clear and easy to follow as possible. If anyone has
 any ideas about what needs documenting that isn't already covered on
 the help pages this is a good chance to get it looked at.

 Happy hunting

 Regards,

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 I'll do the kernel removal. I have avides countless users how to do it
 when they have low disk space issues
 I'lll let you know when it's done
 Andy aka ActionParsnip

 Done
 Please
 check https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation/RemoveOldKernels
 Comments are fully welcomed
 -Andy aka ActionParsnip

Andy,

Looks great to me! That's about as easy as it gets because the ones
you want to remove change for each person.

We're starting to run out of things to fix. Come on team surely there
are other things you've noticed (or noticed don't exist) that you
would like us to work on. Email the list or add them to the wiki so we
get make it easy for you.

Regards,

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Documentation Day

2011-01-19 Thread Jared Norris
On 20 January 2011 11:33, Andrew Woodhead andrew.woodhead...@gmail.com wrote:


 On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 9:30 PM, Andrew Woodhead
 andrew.woodhead...@gmail.com wrote:


 On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 9:26 PM, Julien Lavergne gi...@ubuntu.com wrote:

 2011/1/19 Jared Norris jrnor...@gmail.com:
  Good Morning Team Lubuntu,
 
  As it's now 0030 am here in Brisbane I thought I'd kick off the
  Lubuntu documentation day. Details of what needs doing is available
  here - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/SubTeams/DocumentationSubTeam
 
  Please if you know of anything that needs fixing email us here on the
  list or add it to the wiki so we can work towards making the Lubuntu
  documentation as clear and easy to follow as possible. If anyone has
  any ideas about what needs documenting that isn't already covered on
  the help pages this is a good chance to get it looked at.
 
  Happy hunting
 
  Regards,
 
  Jared Norris
  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JaredNorris

 Thanks you, I'll add some items for me for tomorrow :)

 Regards,
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 Glad you like it. We get about 2 or 3 of these a day
 on https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu so it's easy to port over. I believe
 somebody made a script to ask the user how many kernels to keep and remove
 the surplus. I'll see if I can make something similar
 Could be useful for all buntus
 :)

 http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1634760
 Possible. I haven't tested this but people seem to rate it. Thoughts? (Read
 all the posts)

Andrew,

It does look good but I'm a much bigger fan of people actually seeing
what they're doing so maybe add that as an option to the bottom of the
page? I just get scared when people start asking others to run
commands without really knowing what they're doing.

Regards,

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Documentation Day on Thurday 20/1

2011-01-18 Thread Jared Norris
On 18 January 2011 09:47, Julien Lavergne gi...@ubuntu.com wrote:
 Hi,

 On Thurday, we will have the first Documentation Day for Lubuntu. The
 goal is to write/fix/improve any piece of documentation.
 I hope we will have our wiki's masters online, phillw already told me
 that he will be available after 20 GMT.
 Like the Bug Day, it's a test to see if this kind of Day is useful.
 I'll be around on IRC if people have technical questions, I'll also
 try to write some piece of documentation :)

 If you want to participate, please join the IRC on Thurday, or reply
 to this mail with what you want to do. Also, if you think some wiki
 pages need more attention, or if you think some particular
 documentation is needed, please answer to this mail :)

 Thanks in advance for your participation :)

 Regards,
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I will be in and out a bit as usual. Unfortunately a lot of my spare
time at the moment is organising a Ubuntu booth at the biggest Linux
conference in our country so I can't be sure just when or how long
I'll be around.

Regards,

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[Lubuntu-desktop] Advertising

2011-01-18 Thread Jared Norris
Good morning all,

I'm running a stand at a linux conference here in Australia and I'm
looking to get a collection of screen casts or advertising videos
together to display on the stand. To this end I thought it would be
good to have one or two Lubuntu ones as well. I know about the screen
casts on the website but these are mainly how to which I will use if
I need to in the end but I would prefer one that was more advertising
material. If you know of any please let me know as it is not this
Saturday but the one following (sorry for the short notice.

Regards,

Jared Norris
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JaredNorris

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] pcmanfm not seeing nas?

2010-12-30 Thread Jared Norris
On 30 December 2010 13:40, Tim Bernhard ohiom...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi everyone,
 I guess I haven't used my nas in a while because I just realized that
 pcmanfm doesn't see my network drives like nautilus did in Ubuntu.  Is this
 a problem with pcmanfm or do I need to set something up?  Looks like I might
 need to use samba?  I don't really feel like setting though.
 My goal for my Lubuntu install is to maximize battery life on my laptop
 while having a system that does the basics without having to do a ton of
 configuration.  I'm not the tweak and geek type.  I just want my OS to
 work they way I need it to.  My machine has plenty of resources.  Is there a
 compelling reason for me NOT to use nautilus?  I just seems to do a little
 more than pcmanfm.  Please advise.

 Thanks in advance,
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Tim,

There is a bug for network file viewing with Lubuntu Maverick Meerkat
which I think is what you're coming up against. If you check out
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/ReleaseNotes/MaverickMeerkat/#Network%20File%20Browsing%20with%20PCManFM
there is a fix listed there that would be the first thing I'd try.

Hope that helps.

Regards,

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Jared (head-victim)

2010-12-15 Thread Jared Norris
On 15 December 2010 17:23, Phill Whiteside phi...@ubuntu.com wrote:
 Hi gang :)

 I am very proud to announce that Jared (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JaredNorris)
 has been accepted as a member of UBT
 (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BeginnersTeam). He's an all round good guy and will
 be assisting in the transfer of the wiki pages over etc. I am really happy
 that yet another lubunteer has been accepted as it helps so much on the
 having a chat with other teams that we do have people who are also willing
 to help out and are 'officially' recognised.

 Jared, from the 1st chat I had with you, I knew you were a good person, your
 gaining recognition of what you have done and continue to do is very well
 deserved. Next up, full ubuntu membership :)

 Regards,

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Phill  Lubuntu,

Thanks for your efforts in getting me there Phill and thanks to the
Lubuntu team for all the support. It's nice to know I am doing
something right with my Ubuntu involvement and I'll no doubt be seeing
you all around.

Regards,

Jared Norris
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JaredNorris

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] How can I help make Lubuntu be tter, I’m not a programmer.

2010-12-13 Thread Jared Norris
On 13 December 2010 06:04, Yorvyk yorvik.ubu...@googlemail.com wrote:
 How can I help make Lubuntu better, I’m not a programmer.  I keep seeing 
 this, or a similar, question asked.

 For those who would like to help with bug triaging there is a session in 
 #ubuntu-classroom on irc.freenode.net, Basics of Bug Triaging, on Wed 15th 
 December at 17:00 UTC.

 Reporting bugs is also important.  If you feel this is complicated or are not 
 sure how to do a report, drop a mail to the list or call in to the IRC 
 channel #lubuntu on irc.freenode.net somebody will help, eventually, be 
 patient.

 You can also help with translations, even us English speakers.  Again, ask 
 the mailing list or IRC if you want to help.


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Yorvyk,

What a timely post to the list. I was just reading
http://www.granneman.com/techinfo/linux/contributewithoutcoding.htm as
someone pasted a link in another Ubuntu channel. I am another one of
these people who took a LONG time to find my way into helping out
where I can even though I can't code or program anything to save my
life. I'd recommend people have a read of the link for some
inspiration if anyone is looking for something to do as a general tool
(it's far from Lubuntu specific but a lot of the ideas can be
transferred to the Lubuntu team).

While Yorvyk has put his hand up for bug triaging I would also like to
let people know I am available to help in the non-technical efforts
to anyone. I would recommend attending a bug triaging class even if
it's just to watch and get a better understanding how it all goes
together.

Regards,

Jared Norris (head_victim)
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JaredNorris

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] People having trouble with dualboots?

2010-11-02 Thread Jared Norris
On 2 November 2010 19:08, Yorvyk yorvik.ubu...@googlemail.com wrote:
 On Tue, 2 Nov 2010 08:29:42 +
 Glenn de Groot glenn_de_gr...@hotmail.com wrote:


 Hi zoltan,
 nice to hear your problem is solved now. This problem is pretty big for 
 first time users and I think affects every dual-boot user. Should we post 
 this (with the fix) on the lubuntu website or on a blog like OMG ubuntu?


 I’ve not had this problem, all the other (Linux) OS have been picked up by 
 GRUB.  But, if others are, then the cure should be in the Wiki.  Personally, 
 I don’t regard OMG Ubuntu as a reliable source.

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Good morning/afternoon/evening all,

I am working on some documentation for a place to put all the common
issues together. This way we have a central source of data for
problems that have already been reported to developers to work on
hopefully with solutions as well. I have noticed there are 2 or 3
problems that I have come across from multiple users on the IRC
channels personally so I will add these and when I have the page
layout finished I will post a link to the list (hopefully in the next
day or so).

I hope I'm not being too presumptuous with this but feel free to email
me any concerns.

Regards,

Jared Norris
(aka head_victim on Freenode)
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JaredNorris

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