Aloha oukou,
I agree with what Julian said about LightDM, on all mentioned
(dis)advantages. But the advantages should outweigh the disadvantages, as
Ubuntu and Xubuntu even have way more devs hanging around then Lubuntu.
Every error or bug we encounter we can put on launchpad and hopefully will
get sorted by one of the others. When we've got time to spare, we could
solve it ourselves of course and send our patch as solution.
So to recap, I'm pro on the switch.
With metta,
Chris Druif
On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 03:33, Ian Gilfillan launch...@greenman.co.zawrote:
Julien, just to clarify, LightDM uses 3.2Mb and LXDM 2.3 and not the other
way around? This seems a trivial difference.
You've mentioned before that support is important for a DM as it needs to
be tested across many different configurations. LightDM seems far more
active than LXDM, and in spite of being newer you say it's already more
complete.
I'd say go for the change - if there is a showstopper, or one gets
introduced later, it should be relatively easy to revert. Also, if
maintenance is being shared with Ubuntu (as opposed to being done by them),
it should be possible to stop any issues being introduced that will
negatively affect Lubuntu.
The main risk seems to be one of bloat as LightDM gets more heavily
developed, but LightDM was launched with the purpose of supporting LXDE
(although not exclusively, like LXDM), so I'd feel confident about
switching.
--
Ian Gilfillan
www.greenman.co.za
On 09/06/2011 00:26, Yorvyk wrote:
On Wed, 08 Jun 2011 20:39:42 +0200
Julien Lavergnegi...@ubuntu.com wrote:
Hi,
I'm a bit late for that, but it still time to discuss such topic.
LightDM [1] will be the next display manager for Ubuntu, and probably
Xubuntu (maybe Kubuntu also !). It will replace GDM which have a tight
dependency on GNOME.
LightDM has the advantage to split the greeter (the UI part) and the
core (which do all the black magic for users, consolkit etc ...). You
can build a greeter which use GTK only, Qt, Webkit etc ... It's also
heavily developed this cycle.
Last cycle I tested LightDM, but found that it was not ready. Also, LXDM
is now in a good shape. I tested it briefly on Oneiric, and it seems in
better shape now, and with RAM usage similar to LXDM (3.2 vs 2.3 Mb)
To summarize :
Advantages:
* More complete than LXDM
* Maintenance shared with Ubuntu and Xubuntu
* Heavily developed
Disadvantages :
* New and less tested in Lubuntu than LXDM
* Dependant to Ubuntu team for changes : we are not free to modify the
DM, and it's possible that Ubuntu team introduce a change which
indirectly impact others flavors (remember Ubiquity changes for disk
requierement last cycle)
IMO, if items I mentioned at the UDS are managed by LightDM [2], we can
try to switch for this cycle. If later in the cycle we discover that
there are problems, we can still switch again to LXDM.
What do you think ?
Regards,
Julien Lavergne
[1] : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LightDM
[2] : https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/desktop-o-lightdm
I've been running Ubuntu Oneiric with lightdm for a while and it appears
to behave it's self OK.
Having had a bit of a read about it I don't see an advantage in either,
from a user's point of view, and I'm a bit lost with the technical
(dis)advantages.
A few thoughts. With the change to GTK3 and the potential problems to be
resolved with that, are we adding another headache for the few competent
devs we have.
Or would having Lightdm give us one less problem, as others in the Ubuntu
community would be dealing with it and we wouldn't have to worry about lxdm
either.
Would sticking with what we know be better as lxdm doesn't have any real
problems and performs the function for which it is intended.
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