[lubuntu-users] Fwd: 19.04LXQt Change title bar to a different color?

2019-04-22 Thread Mark F
@Water, below is the first reply which was held in the moderator queue. I
thought it would be released and eventually come through. But, I just
received a rejection notice due to the attached image.

Sorry for the conversation being out of order. I should have reposted
immediately without the attachment. As mentioned earlier, the screen shot
is posted here: https://i.postimg.cc/rmtWgpV6/DSC01030.jpg

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On Sat, Apr 20, 2019 at 11:48 PM Walter Lapchynski  wrote:

Right click on the taskbar and select "Configure panel" and play around
> with the options in custom styling. More sweeping changes to the system
> can be done in Preferences → LXQt Settings → Appearance.
>

Thanks. I wasn't aware of taskbar styling. I've seen the
Prefs->settings->Appearance. It looks like all I can do is pick a different
theme, not edit a particular (the title bar of windows)?

I worried about changing the entire theme, changing more than I want. But,
I can try that.


> > I was a little rattled about accepting what it was going to do.
>
> Even after reading the summary at the end?
>


>[...]
> I'm struggling to to understand what you're trying to explain. Could you
> perhaps go through the process again (say, in a virtual machine), and
> keep track of the steps necessary to see this?
>

I booted the install media again and took a screen shot. See attached. (The
only thing different: when I installed 19.04, the existing partition was
18.04.).

What gave me pause is that the partitions seemed out of order. I thought I
had root, swap and an extra partition for old stuff I don't access much (in
that order). When I saw the installer's graphical depiction, it looked like
I was being invited to install into that extra partition. What compounded
that perception was how *that* partition doesn't show the sdaN identifier.

The old installer would ask identify the existing Lubuntu partition and ask
to install over it. That seemed like an easy choice to make.

This installer provides more info (reminding me of the old installer's
advanced, custom "create your own partitions" option). So, that extra info
makes you pause and think more about what you're accepting. But, the way it
doesn't give all the info (the sdaN identifier for the one you're asked to
obliterate) it felt more stressful to me. I was expecting to click
through that page. Suddenly, "wait a minute, what? which one is this?"

I suppose there's nothing wrong with inviting greater caution, scrutiny. I
think if that partition said "sda2" (which is what it is), then it would
have been clear to me (faster) that it's in the order I thought it was in.

So, I'm used to the old installer which just said "Replace existing Lubuntu
xx.xx partition" (something like that). I trusted that. No details to make
me think deeper about it. But, the new installer


> > (Something
> > about it, even when it's turned down to 1, which should be the default
> IMO,
> > feels different than scrolling other apps.).
>
> You seem to suggest there are applications you have installed which do
> not have this strange behavior. Which are they?
>

After using it more, it seems like it's just PCManFM-Qt. That seems to
scroll with more "gesture" than Featherpad, Google Chrome.

Initially, PCManFM was *very* nimble/springy/excited (I call it "glam"
because that's what people do to web pages, showing off, "this is cool!"
but makes the page less pleasant to visit. It's used like *decoration*, not
for any real purpose.). You find yourself having to relearn how to use your
mouse (just to visit a web page).

When I found the scroll-wheel "number of lines" setting in Prefs->LXQt
Settings->Keyboard Mouse, that made PCManFM more like what I expect. But,
now it seems Featherpad & Google Chrome scroll a bit too grudgingly.

If noone else has commented on this, it must be me. But, to me it's
frustrating to have one app that works differently with the mouse. I could
understand a 3rd-party app glamming up the scroll wheel (people get carried
away with fancy stuff). But, it surprised me that the desktop's integrated
file manager would do it.

I hope I'm not overstating this topic. It must be something *everyone* is
experiencing. I must be hypersensitive to it if everyone else is fine.


> > 3. The theme seems a little large'ish compared to LXDE.
>
> What resolution are you dealing with? This may have an effect on your
> impression. Pixel wise, I think you'll find the two desktop environments
> essentially identical.
>

My laptop's resolution is: 1366x768.

I just noticed in PCManFM, edit->preferences->display, I can reduce the
margin between items. (But, even when set at 0x0px it seems like a lot of
margin between items. Maybe it's just how the text wraps, and I'm not
seeing how close it *can* be.). It feels like the text is too large.

While looking at ->preferences, I saw I can reduce the left pane's icons. I
set that to the smallest (16x16) and like that better. The left panel
looked dispro

Re: [lubuntu-users] 19.04LXQt Change title bar to a different color?

2019-04-22 Thread Mark F
>
> > navigator pane on the left seems like it takes up a lot of margin.
>
> Agreed, based on the default window size, but you can always contract
> it. There is not yet a way to set it to a particular width. I think this
> is worthy of a feature request. Please file a bug!
>

I opened:

- Font-size enhancement (decimal font sizes) #1710

https://github.com/lxqt/lxqt/issues/1710


- "Desktop prefs->Label text->Font style" not initialized? #1711

https://github.com/lxqt/lxqt/issues/1711


- Desktop font seperate from "Appearance" settings #1712

https://github.com/lxqt/lxqt/issues/1712


- Excessive margin with mounted devices (in left pane) #947

https://github.com/lxqt/pcmanfm-qt/issues/947


- Mouse scroll-wheel speed is being affected in a way other apps are not
#948

https://github.com/lxqt/pcmanfm-qt/issues/948


- Unnecessary labels in left-pane "Places." #949

https://github.com/lxqt/pcmanfm-qt/issues/949


I hope that helps! (It appears they were all closed as quickly as they were
opened. But, hopefully being present helps somehow.).


Mark
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Re: [lubuntu-users] 19.04LXQt Change title bar to a different color?

2019-04-22 Thread Mark F
On Mon, Apr 22, 2019 at 7:56 AM Mark F  wrote:

> *3.* I found ~/.config/lxqt/lxqt.conf. I changed the font size in that
> file (to 10.5) and it immediately updated the display (everything except
> the Desktop labels. I'll have to figure out where that's stored as a config
> file).
>

FYI: I found ~/.config/pcmanm-qt/lxqt/settings.conf

That looks like it has the desktop font settings. However, when I change
font-size to 10.5, and logout/login, the value reverts back to 10 (in that
file).

The lxqt/lxqt.conf file preserves the 10.5 setting across logins. So, for
me editing that file is a good solution. I just can't set the desktop
labels as similarly. I don't know if I'm changing it in the right place. It
don't know if I'm editing the correct file, or if this part of the system
is different and won't respect decimal values.

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Re: [lubuntu-users] 19.04LXQt Change title bar to a different color?

2019-04-22 Thread Mark F
Something else stood out to me. In a prior msg I said I changed the
font-size to 10 (Preferences->LXQt Settings->Appearance).

*1.* I expected that to include the desktop's font since the desktop is
just the file manager treating the desktop as a folder(?). Eventually I
right clicked the desktop and set its font there. *It might be useful to
say something in the Appearance dialog that the desktop's font is
controlled elsewhere.* Maybe invoke that dialog from there as a convenience?

However, *the real reason for posting this comment:*

*2.* That *Desktop Preferences dialog* (right-click on desktop): when I
clicked on "Select font," *the "font style" was set to "Light italic"
(which is not the current setting). *

I think it's merely defaulting to the first font-style in the list (i.e.,
not being set to the current font-style). So, you think you're changing the
font size, click ok (and apply)... and then you end up with more than you
bargained for. After you go back and set it to "Regular,"  then the dialog
respects the current font-style each time you open it.

That seems like a bug.

Also, in a previous msg (perhaps the one still held in the moderator queue,
with the attached screen shot) I said it would be *nice to have fractional
font sizes. *

*3.* I found ~/.config/lxqt/lxqt.conf. I changed the font size in that file
(to 10.5) and it immediately updated the display (everything except the
Desktop labels. I'll have to figure out where that's stored as a config
file).

I truly believe this would be a very positive change to the configuration
tools (if the font-size "spin" numerical-choice field allowe a decimal
number to be typed in, like many apps do.). I'm personally liking 10.3'ish
font size.

It probably sounds excessive to be that particular about font size. But...
if you can specify the margins for items on the desktop in *pixels*... it
seems like fine tuning font-size would deserve some love too. (Especially
when LXQt apparently respects those fractional sizes, it's just the config
dialogs that limit the value to whole numbers.).

Mark
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