Re: [lubuntu-users] Activating a swap partition

2018-11-25 Thread Liam Proven
On Sun, 25 Nov 2018 at 22:16, Ian Bruntlett  wrote:
>
> Hi Liam,
>
> On Sun, 25 Nov 2018 at 20:59, Liam Proven  wrote:
>>
>> FWIW, it takes up to 2GB...
>>
>> http://www.toshiba.co.uk/discontinued-products/toshiba-nb250-107/
>>
>> ... and you can probably pick up a 2GB SO-DIMM for peanuts. E.g. £1.50 from 
>> CEX:
>>
>> https://uk.webuy.com/search?stext=2gb%20ddr3
>
>
> I had a dig around and found a 2GiB SO-DIMM, fitted it this evening - and ran 
> memtest86+ with no errors.

Great stuff! I have upgraded a couple of old netbooks this way. They
were usually not very fussy about RAM, as the Atom was quite a
low-performance CPU and the chipset is similarly not high-end. E.g. no
RAM interleaving or anything.

> Did some testing of LibreOffice. Basically, it is a Java problem. If I go to 
> Tools -> Advanced in, say, LibreOffice Calc, I can disable the use of a JDK 
> and once that it set, LibreOffice Writer starts working again.

Some bits of LO and OpenOffice before it were written in Java. Not
much -- e.g. some import/export filters.

You could install a JVM -- the FOSS IcedTea runtime is in the Ubuntu
repos. It won't take a lot of space and will enable a few more things
to work. I use some Java text editors myself, for instance.

I think if you do:

sudo apt install icedtea-web

... that should pull in the current IcedTea JVM. Then you can check with:

java -version

... at a shell prompt.

> Thanks for the CEX tip. Looked at the website and it was very interesting.

I've sold quite a lot of old kit to CEX over the years: many old
mobile phones, routers, stuff like that. I took payment in vouchers
and it enabled me to max out the RAM on a few computers, put a
max-capacity MMC card in my smartphone, buy original copy of Mac OS X
10.6 Snow Leopard which I ran both on a real Mac mini and on a
Hackintosh I built, and finally contributed towards an old iPad 2 for
my mum, which she liked a lot. Later I got her an iPad 3 from them,
and the iPad 2 went to a family friend who's still using it some years
later.

They're a very useful company. There are a few international branches, too.

Disclaimer -- the 3 co-founders were personal friends of mine, and I
worked there for all of a week in about 1996.

But sadly they 2 co-owners are both dead now, and I have no connection
at all with the company any more. The third, Charlie Brooker, who did
all their original branding, advertising and so on, is now a famous TV
writer (Black Mirror, etc.) and no longer associates with his old
mates at all. :-(

-- 
Liam Proven - Profile: https://about.me/liamproven
Email: lpro...@cix.co.uk - Google Mail/Hangouts/Plus: lpro...@gmail.com
Twitter/Facebook/Flickr: lproven - Skype/LinkedIn: liamproven
UK: +44 7939-087884 - ČR (+ WhatsApp/Telegram/Signal): +420 702 829 053

-- 
Lubuntu-users mailing list
Lubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com
Modify settings or unsubscribe at: 
https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/lubuntu-users


Re: [lubuntu-users] Activating a swap partition

2018-11-25 Thread Ian Bruntlett
Hi Liam,

On Sun, 25 Nov 2018 at 20:59, Liam Proven  wrote:

> FWIW, it takes up to 2GB...
>
> http://www.toshiba.co.uk/discontinued-products/toshiba-nb250-107/
>
> ... and you can probably pick up a 2GB SO-DIMM for peanuts. E.g. £1.50
> from CEX:
>
> https://uk.webuy.com/search?stext=2gb%20ddr3
>

I had a dig around and found a 2GiB SO-DIMM, fitted it this evening - and
ran memtest86+ with no errors.

Did some testing of LibreOffice. Basically, it is a Java problem. If I go
to Tools -> Advanced in, say, LibreOffice Calc, I can disable the use of a
JDK and once that it set, LibreOffice Writer starts working again.

Thanks for the CEX tip. Looked at the website and it was very interesting.

BW,


Ian

-- 
-- ACCU - Professionalism in programming - http://www.accu.org
-- My writing - https://sites.google.com/site/ianbruntlett/
-- Free Software page -
https://sites.google.com/site/ianbruntlett/home/free-software
-- 
Lubuntu-users mailing list
Lubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com
Modify settings or unsubscribe at: 
https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/lubuntu-users


Re: [lubuntu-users] Activating a swap partition

2018-11-25 Thread Liam Proven
On Sat, 24 Nov 2018 at 19:49, Ian Bruntlett  wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> On behalf of the Computer Wombling Project I am refurbishing a donated 
> Toshiba NB250-107 netbook. It has a 64-bit CPU and 1GiB RAM. Because of that 
> I installed 32-bit Lubuntu 18.04.1. Whenever I try to open a (small) document 
> with LibreOffice Writer, the hard drive whirs a bit, some of the LibreOffice 
> window appears... and then LibreOffice closes.
>
> I think it is running out of memory.

FWIW, it takes up to 2GB...

http://www.toshiba.co.uk/discontinued-products/toshiba-nb250-107/

... and you can probably pick up a 2GB SO-DIMM for peanuts. E.g. £1.50 from CEX:

https://uk.webuy.com/search?stext=2gb%20ddr3

That would likely transform the performance and usability for the cost
of a half a pint. :-)

> I've put a 2GiB partition on the hard drive

It might be worth investigating zswap so that it swaps compressed data
to the hard disk. It helps both efficiency and performance.

-- 
Liam Proven - Profile: https://about.me/liamproven
Email: lpro...@cix.co.uk - Google Mail/Hangouts/Plus: lpro...@gmail.com
Twitter/Facebook/Flickr: lproven - Skype/LinkedIn: liamproven
UK: +44 7939-087884 - ČR (+ WhatsApp/Telegram/Signal): +420 702 829 053

-- 
Lubuntu-users mailing list
Lubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com
Modify settings or unsubscribe at: 
https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/lubuntu-users


Re: [lubuntu-users] Activating a swap partition

2018-11-24 Thread Ian Bruntlett
FIXED!

>From :
https://askubuntu.com/questions/927859/libreoffice-writer-crashes-on-start

I got this advice:
*First, start Libreoffice, click on Tools, click on options and under
Libreoffice section click on Advanced. Deselect "Use a Java runtime
environment"* and problem solved.

BTW, I am running 32-bit lubuntu on a 64-bit system (Toshiba NB250-107
Netbook), due to lack of memory (only 1GiB).

I think the problem might be due to the use of a 32-bit system. Maybe the
32-bit Java Runtime Environment is buggy? Because I can run LO Writer fine
on a ThinkPad T420 (64 bit CPU, 64-bit Ubuntu).

HTH,


Ian

-- 
-- ACCU - Professionalism in programming - http://www.accu.org
-- My writing - https://sites.google.com/site/ianbruntlett/
-- Free Software page -
https://sites.google.com/site/ianbruntlett/home/free-software
-- 
Lubuntu-users mailing list
Lubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com
Modify settings or unsubscribe at: 
https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/lubuntu-users


Re: [lubuntu-users] Activating a swap partition

2018-11-24 Thread Aere Greenway

On 11/24/18 11:49 AM, Ian Bruntlett wrote:

Hi,

On behalf of the Computer Wombling Project I am refurbishing a donated 
Toshiba NB250-107 netbook. It has a 64-bit CPU and 1GiB RAM. Because 
of that I installed 32-bit Lubuntu 18.04.1. Whenever I try to open a 
(small) document with LibreOffice Writer, the hard drive whirs a bit, 
some of the LibreOffice window appears... and then LibreOffice closes.


I think it is running out of memory. I've put a 2GiB partition on the 
hard drive but that does not seem to be used. Here is the output of 
the swapon --summary command:-


Filename                Type        Size    Used Priority
/dev/sda1      partition 1998844    0    -2

Thanks :)


Ian

--
-- ACCU - Professionalism in programming - http://www.accu.org
-- My writing - https://sites.google.com/site/ianbruntlett/
-- Free Software page - 
https://sites.google.com/site/ianbruntlett/home/free-software



That problem sounds like what I encountered.  When I submitted the 
bug-report, here is the reply I got, which turned out to be the solution 
work-around:


That's very likely a duplicate of bug #1699772.

To confirm this, can you run the following command in a terminal:

sed -i '/enabled/c\false<\/enabled>'
~/.config/libreoffice/4/user/config/javasettings_Linux_*.xml

Then execute libreoffice writer and let me know if the crash is still
happening? Thanks!


[For the record, that command disables the JRE (Java Runtime Environment) in 
libreoffice, which is known to cause crashes on 32bits processors. Some 
functions of libreoffice won't work without Java (the most visible probably 
being libreoffice base), but most of the office suite should work just fine.]

** Changed in: libreoffice (Ubuntu)
   Status: New => Incomplete

-- You received this bug notification because you are subscribed to the 
bug report. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1804134 Title: LibreOffice 
Writer Won't Run on Pentium-4 32-bit Computer Status in libreoffice 
package in Ubuntu: Incomplete Bug description: On a Dell GX-270 (Intel 
32-bit) computer running Lubuntu 18.04, I can run LibreOffice, but when 
I select LibreOffice Writer the LibreOffice window disappears, and 
nothing happens, as if the application just terminated normally, without 
doing anything. An AppPort window reporting an error appeared, but when 
I clicked its "Send" button, the window disappeared without doing 
anything. If I run LibreOffice Writer directly from the menu, I get a 
frame of its window (with nothing filled-in inside), which persists for 
awhile, and then disappears. In either case, no error message appears, 
and nothing further happens. LibreOffice Calc, on the other hand, 
appears to run, though I haven't tried any spreadsheet using it. I 
expected LibreOffice Writer to initialize, and then use it for editing 
documents (as it did on Lubuntu 16.04), but the LibreOffice Writer 
window disappeared. The same problem occurred on a Dell GX-260 computer. 
ProblemType: Bug DistroRelease: Ubuntu 18.04 Package: libreoffice-writer 
1:6.0.6-0ubuntu0.18.04.1 ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 
4.15.0-36.39-generic 4.15.18 Uname: Linux 4.15.0-36-generic i686 
ApportVersion: 2.20.9-0ubuntu7.4 Architecture: i386 CurrentDesktop: LXDE 
Date: Mon Nov 19 21:48:52 2018 InstallationDate: Installed on 2018-06-24 
(148 days ago) InstallationMedia: Lubuntu 18.04 LTS "Bionic Beaver" - 
Release i386 (20180426) SourcePackage: libreoffice UpgradeStatus: No 
upgrade log present (probably fresh install) To manage notifications 
about this bug go to: 
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libreoffice/+bug/1804134/+subscriptions 



--
Sincerely,
Aere

-- 
Lubuntu-users mailing list
Lubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com
Modify settings or unsubscribe at: 
https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/lubuntu-users


Re: [lubuntu-users] Activating a swap partition

2018-11-24 Thread Ian Bruntlett
P.S.

I have since found https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwapFaq

I checked /etc/fstab and the swap partition was listed in it.

I ran this command:
sudo swapon --all --verbose

And got the output:
swapon: /dev/sda1 already active - ignored

HTH,


Ian

-- 
-- ACCU - Professionalism in programming - http://www.accu.org
-- My writing - https://sites.google.com/site/ianbruntlett/
-- Free Software page -
https://sites.google.com/site/ianbruntlett/home/free-software
-- 
Lubuntu-users mailing list
Lubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com
Modify settings or unsubscribe at: 
https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/lubuntu-users


[lubuntu-users] Activating a swap partition

2018-11-24 Thread Ian Bruntlett
Hi,

On behalf of the Computer Wombling Project I am refurbishing a donated
Toshiba NB250-107 netbook. It has a 64-bit CPU and 1GiB RAM. Because of
that I installed 32-bit Lubuntu 18.04.1. Whenever I try to open a (small)
document with LibreOffice Writer, the hard drive whirs a bit, some of the
LibreOffice window appears... and then LibreOffice closes.

I think it is running out of memory. I've put a 2GiB partition on the hard
drive but that does not seem to be used. Here is the output of the swapon
--summary command:-

FilenameTypeSizeUsedPriority
/dev/sda1  partition19988440-2

Thanks :)


Ian

-- 
-- ACCU - Professionalism in programming - http://www.accu.org
-- My writing - https://sites.google.com/site/ianbruntlett/
-- Free Software page -
https://sites.google.com/site/ianbruntlett/home/free-software
-- 
Lubuntu-users mailing list
Lubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com
Modify settings or unsubscribe at: 
https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/lubuntu-users