Re: [LUG] OT:
WOW that harsh, I like and use and like Windows and Linux they are not mutually exclusive, however this is a Linux group. Hi Simon, contact me and we will see what can be done.. Kind Regards Peter Atkin (C.T.O) cfts.co (u) ltd. Get I.T.Right +256-772-700781 | Skype: peter2cfu www.cfts.co.ug http://www.cfts.co/ | location details http://www.cfts.co/contacts.html | http://ug.linkedin.com/in/peteratkin view my profile From: lug-boun...@linux.or.ug [mailto:lug-boun...@linux.or.ug] On Behalf Of Benjamin Tayehanpour Sent: Friday, July 19, 2013 12:52 AM To: Uganda Linux User Group Subject: Re: [LUG] OT: I would imagine that this enquiry would be more successful in another crowd. We're a Linux User Group, what brings us together is basically that we in at least some capacity do not use (nor particularly like) MS products. Try finding a Windows Power User Group or similar. On 18 July 2013 22:18, Peter C. Ndikuwera pnd...@gmail.com wrote: MS also gave up. They dropped ISA and its short lived replacement TMG (Threat Management Gateway) On Jul 18, 2013 2:18 PM, billyn...@gmail.com billyn...@gmail.com wrote: Sorry can not help I gave up on MS as a firewall to long ago :-) On 18 Jul 2013 11:03, Emmanuel Sekyewa eseky...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Simon, ISA 2006. Regards On 18 July 2013 12:51, Simon Vass sv...@etech.ug wrote: Which Firewall software are you running? Simon On 18 July 2013 10:45, Emmanuel Sekyewa eseky...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, I need help. I'm in a situation where I have a firewall with a connection to three networks. The LAN, remote network X and remote network Y. I connect to remote networks X and Y using two different routers and I'm able to reach both remote networks. I am however unable to reach the interface on the router connecting me to network Y. A ping to this interface returns reply from A.B.C.D TTL expired in transit A.B.C.D is a public IP address on the router connecting me to remote network Y None of my settings on the firewall have changed. The only variable is the addition of a redundant connection on that router and BGP, where the newly introduced link has been made the primary link. Any ideas on where the issue could be? Regards -- Emmanuel C. Sekyewa +256 782 199 202 tel:%2B256%20782%20199%20202 ___ The Uganda Linux User Group: http://linux.or.ug Send messages to this mailing list by addressing e-mails to: LUG@linux.or.ug Mailing list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/lug@linux.or.ug/ Mailing list settings: http://kym.net/mailman/listinfo/lug To unsubscribe: http://kym.net/mailman/options/lug The Uganda LUG mailing list is generously hosted by INFOCOM: http://www.infocom.co.ug/ The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them (including attachments if any). The mailing list host is not responsible for them in any way. -- Simon Vass Managing Director E-Tech Uganda Ltd http://www.etech.ug Tel: +256 (0) 312260620 tel:%2B256%20%280%29%20312260620 Email: service_d...@etech.ug ___ The Uganda Linux User Group: http://linux.or.ug Send messages to this mailing list by addressing e-mails to: LUG@linux.or.ug Mailing list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/lug@linux.or.ug/ Mailing list settings: http://kym.net/mailman/listinfo/lug To unsubscribe: http://kym.net/mailman/options/lug The Uganda LUG mailing list is generously hosted by INFOCOM: http://www.infocom.co.ug/ The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them (including attachments if any). The mailing list host is not responsible for them in any way. -- Emmanuel C. Sekyewa +256 782 199 202 tel:%2B256%20782%20199%20202 ___ The Uganda Linux User Group: http://linux.or.ug Send messages to this mailing list by addressing e-mails to: LUG@linux.or.ug Mailing list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/lug@linux.or.ug/ Mailing list settings: http://kym.net/mailman/listinfo/lug To unsubscribe: http://kym.net/mailman/options/lug The Uganda LUG mailing list is generously hosted by INFOCOM: http://www.infocom.co.ug/ The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them (including attachments if any). The mailing list host is not responsible for them in any way. ___ The Uganda Linux User Group: http://linux.or.ug Send messages to this mailing list by addressing e-mails to: LUG@linux.or.ug Mailing list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/lug@linux.or.ug/ Mailing list settings: http://kym.net/mailman/listinfo/lug To unsubscribe: http://kym.net/mailman/options/lug The Uganda LUG mailing list is generously hosted by INFOCOM: http://www.infocom.co.ug/ The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them (including attachments if any). The mailing list host is not responsible for
Re: [LUG] OT:
I do agree with Peter, once in a while we all get lost and end up knocking at the wrong door Sent from my iPhone 5 On Jul 19, 2013, at 9:28 AM, Peter Atkin peter.at...@cfts.co wrote: WOW that harsh, I like and use and like Windows and Linux they are not mutually exclusive, however this is a Linux group. Hi Simon, contact me and we will see what can be done.. Kind Regards Peter Atkin (C.T.O) cfts.co (u) ltd. Get I.T.Right +256-772-700781 | Skype: peter2cfu www.cfts.co.ug http://www.cfts.co/ | location detailshttp://www.cfts.co/contacts.html| view my profile http://ug.linkedin.com/in/peteratkin *From:* lug-boun...@linux.or.ug [mailto:lug-boun...@linux.or.uglug-boun...@linux.or.ug] *On Behalf Of *Benjamin Tayehanpour *Sent:* Friday, July 19, 2013 12:52 AM *To:* Uganda Linux User Group *Subject:* Re: [LUG] OT: I would imagine that this enquiry would be more successful in another crowd. We're a Linux User Group, what brings us together is basically that we in at least some capacity do not use (nor particularly like) MS products. Try finding a Windows Power User Group or similar. On 18 July 2013 22:18, Peter C. Ndikuwera pnd...@gmail.com wrote: MS also gave up. They dropped ISA and its short lived replacement TMG (Threat Management Gateway) On Jul 18, 2013 2:18 PM, billyn...@gmail.com billyn...@gmail.com wrote: Sorry can not help I gave up on MS as a firewall to long ago :-) On 18 Jul 2013 11:03, Emmanuel Sekyewa eseky...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Simon, ISA 2006. Regards On 18 July 2013 12:51, Simon Vass sv...@etech.ug wrote: Which Firewall software are you running? Simon On 18 July 2013 10:45, Emmanuel Sekyewa eseky...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, I need help. I'm in a situation where I have a firewall with a connection to three networks. The LAN, remote network X and remote network Y. I connect to remote networks X and Y using two different routers and I'm able to reach both remote networks. I am however unable to reach the interface on the router connecting me to network Y. A ping to this interface returns *reply from A.B.C.D TTL expired in transit* A.B.C.D is a public IP address on the router connecting me to remote network Y None of my settings on the firewall have changed. The only variable is the addition of a redundant connection on that router and BGP, where the newly introduced link has been made the primary link. Any ideas on where the issue could be? Regards -- Emmanuel C. Sekyewa +256 782 199 202 ___ The Uganda Linux User Group: http://linux.or.ug Send messages to this mailing list by addressing e-mails to: LUG@linux.or.ug Mailing list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/lug@linux.or.ug/ Mailing list settings: http://kym.net/mailman/listinfo/lug To unsubscribe: http://kym.net/mailman/options/lug The Uganda LUG mailing list is generously hosted by INFOCOM: http://www.infocom.co.ug/ The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them (including attachments if any). The mailing list host is not responsible for them in any way. -- Simon Vass Managing Director E-Tech Uganda Ltd http://www.etech.ug Tel: +256 (0) 312260620 Email: service_d...@etech.ug ___ The Uganda Linux User Group: http://linux.or.ug Send messages to this mailing list by addressing e-mails to: LUG@linux.or.ug Mailing list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/lug@linux.or.ug/ Mailing list settings: http://kym.net/mailman/listinfo/lug To unsubscribe: http://kym.net/mailman/options/lug The Uganda LUG mailing list is generously hosted by INFOCOM: http://www.infocom.co.ug/ The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them (including attachments if any). The mailing list host is not responsible for them in any way. -- Emmanuel C. Sekyewa +256 782 199 202 ___ The Uganda Linux User Group: http://linux.or.ug Send messages to this mailing list by addressing e-mails to: LUG@linux.or.ug Mailing list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/lug@linux.or.ug/ Mailing list settings: http://kym.net/mailman/listinfo/lug To unsubscribe: http://kym.net/mailman/options/lug The Uganda LUG mailing list is generously hosted by INFOCOM: http://www.infocom.co.ug/ The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them (including attachments if any). The mailing list host is not responsible for them in any way. ___ The Uganda Linux User Group: http://linux.or.ug Send messages to this mailing list by addressing e-mails to: LUG@linux.or.ug Mailing list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/lug@linux.or.ug/ Mailing list settings: http://kym.net/mailman/listinfo/lug To unsubscribe: http://kym.net/mailman/options/lug The Uganda LUG mailing list is generously hosted by INFOCOM: http://www.infocom.co.ug/ The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them (including
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Try an open source firewall: http://www.pfsense.org On Jul 19, 2013 9:43 AM, DENIS McNelly amatide...@gmail.com wrote: I do agree with Peter, once in a while we all get lost and end up knocking at the wrong door Sent from my iPhone 5 On Jul 19, 2013, at 9:28 AM, Peter Atkin peter.at...@cfts.co wrote: WOW that harsh, I like and use and like Windows and Linux they are not mutually exclusive, however this is a Linux group. Hi Simon, contact me and we will see what can be done.. Kind Regards Peter Atkin (C.T.O) cfts.co (u) ltd. Get I.T.Right +256-772-700781 | Skype: peter2cfu www.cfts.co.ug http://www.cfts.co/ | location detailshttp://www.cfts.co/contacts.html| view my profile http://ug.linkedin.com/in/peteratkin *From:* lug-boun...@linux.or.ug [mailto:lug-boun...@linux.or.uglug-boun...@linux.or.ug] *On Behalf Of *Benjamin Tayehanpour *Sent:* Friday, July 19, 2013 12:52 AM *To:* Uganda Linux User Group *Subject:* Re: [LUG] OT: I would imagine that this enquiry would be more successful in another crowd. We're a Linux User Group, what brings us together is basically that we in at least some capacity do not use (nor particularly like) MS products. Try finding a Windows Power User Group or similar. On 18 July 2013 22:18, Peter C. Ndikuwera pnd...@gmail.com wrote: MS also gave up. They dropped ISA and its short lived replacement TMG (Threat Management Gateway) On Jul 18, 2013 2:18 PM, billyn...@gmail.com billyn...@gmail.com wrote: Sorry can not help I gave up on MS as a firewall to long ago :-) On 18 Jul 2013 11:03, Emmanuel Sekyewa eseky...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Simon, ISA 2006. Regards On 18 July 2013 12:51, Simon Vass sv...@etech.ug wrote: Which Firewall software are you running? Simon On 18 July 2013 10:45, Emmanuel Sekyewa eseky...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, I need help. I'm in a situation where I have a firewall with a connection to three networks. The LAN, remote network X and remote network Y. I connect to remote networks X and Y using two different routers and I'm able to reach both remote networks. I am however unable to reach the interface on the router connecting me to network Y. A ping to this interface returns *reply from A.B.C.D TTL expired in transit* A.B.C.D is a public IP address on the router connecting me to remote network Y None of my settings on the firewall have changed. The only variable is the addition of a redundant connection on that router and BGP, where the newly introduced link has been made the primary link. Any ideas on where the issue could be? Regards -- Emmanuel C. Sekyewa +256 782 199 202 ___ The Uganda Linux User Group: http://linux.or.ug Send messages to this mailing list by addressing e-mails to: LUG@linux.or.ug Mailing list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/lug@linux.or.ug/ Mailing list settings: http://kym.net/mailman/listinfo/lug To unsubscribe: http://kym.net/mailman/options/lug The Uganda LUG mailing list is generously hosted by INFOCOM: http://www.infocom.co.ug/ The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them (including attachments if any). The mailing list host is not responsible for them in any way. -- Simon Vass Managing Director E-Tech Uganda Ltd http://www.etech.ug Tel: +256 (0) 312260620 Email: service_d...@etech.ug ___ The Uganda Linux User Group: http://linux.or.ug Send messages to this mailing list by addressing e-mails to: LUG@linux.or.ug Mailing list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/lug@linux.or.ug/ Mailing list settings: http://kym.net/mailman/listinfo/lug To unsubscribe: http://kym.net/mailman/options/lug The Uganda LUG mailing list is generously hosted by INFOCOM: http://www.infocom.co.ug/ The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them (including attachments if any). The mailing list host is not responsible for them in any way. -- Emmanuel C. Sekyewa +256 782 199 202 ___ The Uganda Linux User Group: http://linux.or.ug Send messages to this mailing list by addressing e-mails to: LUG@linux.or.ug Mailing list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/lug@linux.or.ug/ Mailing list settings: http://kym.net/mailman/listinfo/lug To unsubscribe: http://kym.net/mailman/options/lug The Uganda LUG mailing list is generously hosted by INFOCOM: http://www.infocom.co.ug/ The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them (including attachments if any). The mailing list host is not responsible for them in any way. ___ The Uganda Linux User Group: http://linux.or.ug Send messages to this mailing list by addressing e-mails to: LUG@linux.or.ug Mailing list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/lug@linux.or.ug/ Mailing list settings:
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What was harsh about that? Reading in *at least some capacity* do not use (nor *particularly* like) MS does not in any way state mutual exclusivity, or total dislike of Windows. Now, if I used terms like M$ and Winblows, then you'd have grounds for complaint! P. -- Evolution (n): A hypothetical process whereby infinitely improbable events occur with alarming frequency, order arises from chaos, and no one is given credit. On 19 July 2013 09:30, Peter Atkin peter.at...@cfts.co wrote: WOW that harsh, I like and use and like Windows and Linux they are not mutually exclusive, however this is a Linux group. ** ** Hi Simon, contact me and we will see what can be done.. ** ** Kind Regards Peter Atkin (C.T.O) cfts.co (u) ltd. Get I.T.Right +256-772-700781 | Skype: peter2cfu www.cfts.co.ug http://www.cfts.co/ | location detailshttp://www.cfts.co/contacts.html| view my profile http://ug.linkedin.com/in/peteratkin ** ** *From:* lug-boun...@linux.or.ug [mailto:lug-boun...@linux.or.ug] *On Behalf Of *Benjamin Tayehanpour *Sent:* Friday, July 19, 2013 12:52 AM *To:* Uganda Linux User Group *Subject:* Re: [LUG] OT: ** ** I would imagine that this enquiry would be more successful in another crowd. We're a Linux User Group, what brings us together is basically that we in at least some capacity do not use (nor particularly like) MS products. Try finding a Windows Power User Group or similar. ** ** On 18 July 2013 22:18, Peter C. Ndikuwera pnd...@gmail.com wrote: MS also gave up. They dropped ISA and its short lived replacement TMG (Threat Management Gateway) On Jul 18, 2013 2:18 PM, billyn...@gmail.com billyn...@gmail.com wrote: Sorry can not help I gave up on MS as a firewall to long ago :-) On 18 Jul 2013 11:03, Emmanuel Sekyewa eseky...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Simon, ** ** ISA 2006. ** ** Regards ** ** On 18 July 2013 12:51, Simon Vass sv...@etech.ug wrote: Which Firewall software are you running? ** ** Simon On 18 July 2013 10:45, Emmanuel Sekyewa eseky...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, ** ** I need help. I'm in a situation where I have a firewall with a connection to three networks. The LAN, remote network X and remote network Y. I connect to remote networks X and Y using two different routers and I'm able to reach both remote networks. I am however unable to reach the interface on the router connecting me to network Y. A ping to this interface returns *reply from A.B.C.D TTL expired in transit* A.B.C.D is a public IP address on the router connecting me to remote network Y ** ** None of my settings on the firewall have changed. The only variable is the addition of a redundant connection on that router and BGP, where the newly introduced link has been made the primary link. ** ** Any ideas on where the issue could be? ** ** Regards -- Emmanuel C. Sekyewa +256 782 199 202 ** ** ___ The Uganda Linux User Group: http://linux.or.ug Send messages to this mailing list by addressing e-mails to: LUG@linux.or.ug Mailing list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/lug@linux.or.ug/ Mailing list settings: http://kym.net/mailman/listinfo/lug To unsubscribe: http://kym.net/mailman/options/lug The Uganda LUG mailing list is generously hosted by INFOCOM: http://www.infocom.co.ug/ The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them (including attachments if any). The mailing list host is not responsible for them in any way. ** ** -- Simon Vass Managing Director E-Tech Uganda Ltd http://www.etech.ug Tel: +256 (0) 312260620 Email: service_d...@etech.ug ** ** ___ The Uganda Linux User Group: http://linux.or.ug Send messages to this mailing list by addressing e-mails to: LUG@linux.or.ug Mailing list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/lug@linux.or.ug/ Mailing list settings: http://kym.net/mailman/listinfo/lug To unsubscribe: http://kym.net/mailman/options/lug The Uganda LUG mailing list is generously hosted by INFOCOM: http://www.infocom.co.ug/ The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them (including attachments if any). The mailing list host is not responsible for them in any way. ** ** -- Emmanuel C. Sekyewa +256 782 199 202 ___ The Uganda Linux User Group: http://linux.or.ug Send messages to this mailing list by addressing e-mails to: LUG@linux.or.ug Mailing list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/lug@linux.or.ug/ Mailing list settings: http://kym.net/mailman/listinfo/lug To unsubscribe: http://kym.net/mailman/options/lug The Uganda LUG mailing list is generously hosted by INFOCOM: http://www.infocom.co.ug/
Re: [LUG] OT:
Thanks Kyle. I was going to chime in with windows 7 8 do not need a firewall (allegedly) but it would be inappropriate. Pfsense was mentioned REPEATEDLY in my computer security classes. From: lug-boun...@linux.or.ug [mailto:lug-boun...@linux.or.ug] On Behalf Of Kyle Spencer Sent: 19 July 2013 09:47 To: Uganda Linux User Group Subject: Re: [LUG] OT: Try an open source firewall: http://www.pfsense.org On Jul 19, 2013 9:43 AM, DENIS McNelly amatide...@gmail.com mailto:amatide...@gmail.com wrote: I do agree with Peter, once in a while we all get lost and end up knocking at the wrong door Sent from my iPhone 5 On Jul 19, 2013, at 9:28 AM, Peter Atkin peter.at...@cfts.co mailto:peter.at...@cfts.co wrote: WOW that harsh, I like and use and like Windows and Linux they are not mutually exclusive, however this is a Linux group. Hi Simon, contact me and we will see what can be done.. Kind Regards Peter Atkin (C.T.O) cfts.co http://cfts.co (u) ltd. Get I.T.Right +256-772-700781 tel:%2B256-772-700781 | Skype: peter2cfu www.cfts.co.ug http://www.cfts.co/ | location details http://www.cfts.co/contacts.html | http://ug.linkedin.com/in/peteratkin view my profile From: lug-boun...@linux.or.ug mailto:lug-boun...@linux.or.ug [mailto:lug-boun...@linux.or.ug] On Behalf Of Benjamin Tayehanpour Sent: Friday, July 19, 2013 12:52 AM To: Uganda Linux User Group Subject: Re: [LUG] OT: I would imagine that this enquiry would be more successful in another crowd. We're a Linux User Group, what brings us together is basically that we in at least some capacity do not use (nor particularly like) MS products. Try finding a Windows Power User Group or similar. On 18 July 2013 22:18, Peter C. Ndikuwera pnd...@gmail.com mailto:pnd...@gmail.com wrote: MS also gave up. They dropped ISA and its short lived replacement TMG (Threat Management Gateway) On Jul 18, 2013 2:18 PM, billyn...@gmail.com mailto:billyn...@gmail.com billyn...@gmail.com mailto:billyn...@gmail.com wrote: Sorry can not help I gave up on MS as a firewall to long ago :-) On 18 Jul 2013 11:03, Emmanuel Sekyewa eseky...@gmail.com mailto:eseky...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Simon, ISA 2006. Regards On 18 July 2013 12:51, Simon Vass sv...@etech.ug mailto:sv...@etech.ug wrote: Which Firewall software are you running? Simon On 18 July 2013 10:45, Emmanuel Sekyewa eseky...@gmail.com mailto:eseky...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, I need help. I'm in a situation where I have a firewall with a connection to three networks. The LAN, remote network X and remote network Y. I connect to remote networks X and Y using two different routers and I'm able to reach both remote networks. I am however unable to reach the interface on the router connecting me to network Y. A ping to this interface returns reply from A.B.C.D TTL expired in transit A.B.C.D is a public IP address on the router connecting me to remote network Y None of my settings on the firewall have changed. The only variable is the addition of a redundant connection on that router and BGP, where the newly introduced link has been made the primary link. Any ideas on where the issue could be? Regards -- Emmanuel C. Sekyewa +256 782 199 202 tel:%2B256%20782%20199%20202 ___ The Uganda Linux User Group: http://linux.or.ug Send messages to this mailing list by addressing e-mails to: LUG@linux.or.ug mailto:LUG@linux.or.ug Mailing list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/lug@linux.or.ug/ Mailing list settings: http://kym.net/mailman/listinfo/lug To unsubscribe: http://kym.net/mailman/options/lug The Uganda LUG mailing list is generously hosted by INFOCOM: http://www.infocom.co.ug/ The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them (including attachments if any). The mailing list host is not responsible for them in any way. -- Simon Vass Managing Director E-Tech Uganda Ltd http://www.etech.ug Tel: +256 (0) 312260620 tel:%2B256%20%280%29%20312260620 Email: service_d...@etech.ug mailto:service_d...@etech.ug ___ The Uganda Linux User Group: http://linux.or.ug Send messages to this mailing list by addressing e-mails to: LUG@linux.or.ug mailto:LUG@linux.or.ug Mailing list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/lug@linux.or.ug/ Mailing list settings: http://kym.net/mailman/listinfo/lug To unsubscribe: http://kym.net/mailman/options/lug The Uganda LUG mailing list is generously hosted by INFOCOM: http://www.infocom.co.ug/ The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them (including attachments if any). The mailing list host is not responsible for them in any way. -- Emmanuel C. Sekyewa +256 782 199 202 tel:%2B256%20782%20199%20202 ___ The Uganda Linux User Group: http://linux.or.ug Send messages to this mailing list by addressing e-mails to:
Re: [LUG] [TechPost] Airtel Vs Orange Uganda Data Service Deathmatch - TechPost
How does Smile Telecoms 4G LTE fair against providers like MTN,Orange and Airtel? ___ The Uganda Linux User Group: http://linux.or.ug Send messages to this mailing list by addressing e-mails to: LUG@linux.or.ug Mailing list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/lug@linux.or.ug/ Mailing list settings: http://kym.net/mailman/listinfo/lug To unsubscribe: http://kym.net/mailman/options/lug The Uganda LUG mailing list is generously hosted by INFOCOM: http://www.infocom.co.ug/ The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them (including attachments if any). The mailing list host is not responsible for them in any way.
Re: [LUG] [TechPost] Airtel Vs Orange Uganda Data Service Deathmatch - TechPost
Orange likes to rob me blind when my data bundle runs out or expires; I recieve no SMS warning yet they start charging me for data at a ridiculous rate. I had a friend lose nearly 100k this way. On Jul 19, 2013 11:05 AM, Joseph Kasoma jkkas...@gmail.com wrote: How does Smile Telecoms 4G LTE fair against providers like MTN,Orange and Airtel? ___ The Uganda Linux User Group: http://linux.or.ug Send messages to this mailing list by addressing e-mails to: LUG@linux.or.ug Mailing list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/lug@linux.or.ug/ Mailing list settings: http://kym.net/mailman/listinfo/lug To unsubscribe: http://kym.net/mailman/options/lug The Uganda LUG mailing list is generously hosted by INFOCOM: http://www.infocom.co.ug/ The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them (including attachments if any). The mailing list host is not responsible for them in any way. ___ The Uganda Linux User Group: http://linux.or.ug Send messages to this mailing list by addressing e-mails to: LUG@linux.or.ug Mailing list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/lug@linux.or.ug/ Mailing list settings: http://kym.net/mailman/listinfo/lug To unsubscribe: http://kym.net/mailman/options/lug The Uganda LUG mailing list is generously hosted by INFOCOM: http://www.infocom.co.ug/ The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them (including attachments if any). The mailing list host is not responsible for them in any way.
Re: [LUG] OT:
Hi Peter Sorry you misunderstand has nothing to do with Windows or Linux it’s how you handled the request for help that was harsh in my opinion. Kind Regards Peter Atkin (C.T.O) cfts.co (u) ltd. Get I.T.Right +256-772-700781 | Skype: peter2cfu www.cfts.co.ug http://www.cfts.co/ | location details http://www.cfts.co/contacts.html | http://ug.linkedin.com/in/peteratkin view my profile From: Peter C. Ndikuwera [mailto:pnd...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, July 19, 2013 10:11 AM To: peter.at...@cfts.co; Uganda Linux User Group Subject: Re: [LUG] OT: What was harsh about that? Reading in at least some capacity do not use (nor particularly like) MS does not in any way state mutual exclusivity, or total dislike of Windows. Now, if I used terms like M$ and Winblows, then you'd have grounds for complaint! P. -- Evolution (n): A hypothetical process whereby infinitely improbable events occur with alarming frequency, order arises from chaos, and no one is given credit. On 19 July 2013 09:30, Peter Atkin peter.at...@cfts.co wrote: WOW that harsh, I like and use and like Windows and Linux they are not mutually exclusive, however this is a Linux group. Hi Simon, contact me and we will see what can be done.. Kind Regards Peter Atkin (C.T.O) cfts.co (u) ltd. Get I.T.Right +256-772-700781 tel:%2B256-772-700781 | Skype: peter2cfu www.cfts.co.ug http://www.cfts.co/ | location details http://www.cfts.co/contacts.html | http://ug.linkedin.com/in/peteratkin view my profile From: lug-boun...@linux.or.ug [mailto:lug-boun...@linux.or.ug] On Behalf Of Benjamin Tayehanpour Sent: Friday, July 19, 2013 12:52 AM To: Uganda Linux User Group Subject: Re: [LUG] OT: I would imagine that this enquiry would be more successful in another crowd. We're a Linux User Group, what brings us together is basically that we in at least some capacity do not use (nor particularly like) MS products. Try finding a Windows Power User Group or similar. On 18 July 2013 22:18, Peter C. Ndikuwera pnd...@gmail.com wrote: MS also gave up. They dropped ISA and its short lived replacement TMG (Threat Management Gateway) On Jul 18, 2013 2:18 PM, billyn...@gmail.com billyn...@gmail.com wrote: Sorry can not help I gave up on MS as a firewall to long ago :-) On 18 Jul 2013 11:03, Emmanuel Sekyewa eseky...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Simon, ISA 2006. Regards On 18 July 2013 12:51, Simon Vass sv...@etech.ug wrote: Which Firewall software are you running? Simon On 18 July 2013 10:45, Emmanuel Sekyewa eseky...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, I need help. I'm in a situation where I have a firewall with a connection to three networks. The LAN, remote network X and remote network Y. I connect to remote networks X and Y using two different routers and I'm able to reach both remote networks. I am however unable to reach the interface on the router connecting me to network Y. A ping to this interface returns reply from A.B.C.D TTL expired in transit A.B.C.D is a public IP address on the router connecting me to remote network Y None of my settings on the firewall have changed. The only variable is the addition of a redundant connection on that router and BGP, where the newly introduced link has been made the primary link. Any ideas on where the issue could be? Regards -- Emmanuel C. Sekyewa +256 782 199 202 tel:%2B256%20782%20199%20202 ___ The Uganda Linux User Group: http://linux.or.ug Send messages to this mailing list by addressing e-mails to: LUG@linux.or.ug Mailing list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/lug@linux.or.ug/ Mailing list settings: http://kym.net/mailman/listinfo/lug To unsubscribe: http://kym.net/mailman/options/lug The Uganda LUG mailing list is generously hosted by INFOCOM: http://www.infocom.co.ug/ The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them (including attachments if any). The mailing list host is not responsible for them in any way. -- Simon Vass Managing Director E-Tech Uganda Ltd http://www.etech.ug Tel: +256 (0) 312260620 tel:%2B256%20%280%29%20312260620 Email: service_d...@etech.ug ___ The Uganda Linux User Group: http://linux.or.ug Send messages to this mailing list by addressing e-mails to: LUG@linux.or.ug Mailing list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/lug@linux.or.ug/ Mailing list settings: http://kym.net/mailman/listinfo/lug To unsubscribe: http://kym.net/mailman/options/lug The Uganda LUG mailing list is generously hosted by INFOCOM: http://www.infocom.co.ug/ The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them (including attachments if any). The mailing list host is not responsible for them in any way. -- Emmanuel C. Sekyewa +256 782 199 202 tel:%2B256%20782%20199%20202 ___ The Uganda Linux
Re: [LUG] [TechPost] Airtel Vs Orange Uganda Data Service Deathmatch - TechPost
Am currently using Smiletelecoms 4g LTE, in my opinion i have never been disappointed with their speeds..it never buffers, i think its the best i hv ever used From: Joseph Kasoma jkkas...@gmail.com To: Uganda Linux User Group lug@linux.or.ug Sent: Friday, July 19, 2013 11:04 AM Subject: Re: [LUG] [TechPost] Airtel Vs Orange Uganda Data Service Deathmatch - TechPost How does Smile Telecoms 4G LTE fair against providers like MTN,Orange and Airtel? ___ The Uganda Linux User Group: http://linux.or.ug Send messages to this mailing list by addressing e-mails to: LUG@linux.or.ug Mailing list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/lug@linux.or.ug/ Mailing list settings: http://kym.net/mailman/listinfo/lug To unsubscribe: http://kym.net/mailman/options/lug The Uganda LUG mailing list is generously hosted by INFOCOM: http://www.infocom.co.ug/ The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them (including attachments if any). The mailing list host is not responsible for them in any way.___ The Uganda Linux User Group: http://linux.or.ug Send messages to this mailing list by addressing e-mails to: LUG@linux.or.ug Mailing list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/lug@linux.or.ug/ Mailing list settings: http://kym.net/mailman/listinfo/lug To unsubscribe: http://kym.net/mailman/options/lug The Uganda LUG mailing list is generously hosted by INFOCOM: http://www.infocom.co.ug/ The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them (including attachments if any). The mailing list host is not responsible for them in any way.
Re: [LUG] [TechPost] Airtel Vs Orange Uganda Data Service Deathmatch - TechPost
Smile is extremely fast but their pricing still doesn't make sense. They offer the same size bundles as Orange (and others) at approximately the same price, yet their service is capable of consuming them 50x as fast. They have an unlimited plan but are apparently unable to cap the speed so the cost is like 3m/mo or something ridiculous. On Jul 19, 2013 11:30 AM, placid pow...@yahoo.com wrote: Am currently using Smiletelecoms 4g LTE, in my opinion i have never been disappointed with their speeds..it never buffers, i think its the best i hv ever used -- *From:* Joseph Kasoma jkkas...@gmail.com *To:* Uganda Linux User Group lug@linux.or.ug *Sent:* Friday, July 19, 2013 11:04 AM *Subject:* Re: [LUG] [TechPost] Airtel Vs Orange Uganda Data Service Deathmatch - TechPost How does Smile Telecoms 4G LTE fair against providers like MTN,Orange and Airtel? ___ The Uganda Linux User Group: http://linux.or.ug Send messages to this mailing list by addressing e-mails to: LUG@linux.or.ug Mailing list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/lug@linux.or.ug/ Mailing list settings: http://kym.net/mailman/listinfo/lug To unsubscribe: http://kym.net/mailman/options/lug The Uganda LUG mailing list is generously hosted by INFOCOM: http://www.infocom.co.ug/ The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them (including attachments if any). The mailing list host is not responsible for them in any way. ___ The Uganda Linux User Group: http://linux.or.ug Send messages to this mailing list by addressing e-mails to: LUG@linux.or.ug Mailing list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/lug@linux.or.ug/ Mailing list settings: http://kym.net/mailman/listinfo/lug To unsubscribe: http://kym.net/mailman/options/lug The Uganda LUG mailing list is generously hosted by INFOCOM: http://www.infocom.co.ug/ The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them (including attachments if any). The mailing list host is not responsible for them in any way. ___ The Uganda Linux User Group: http://linux.or.ug Send messages to this mailing list by addressing e-mails to: LUG@linux.or.ug Mailing list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/lug@linux.or.ug/ Mailing list settings: http://kym.net/mailman/listinfo/lug To unsubscribe: http://kym.net/mailman/options/lug The Uganda LUG mailing list is generously hosted by INFOCOM: http://www.infocom.co.ug/ The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them (including attachments if any). The mailing list host is not responsible for them in any way.
Re: [LUG] [TechPost] Airtel Vs Orange Uganda Data Service Deathmatch - TechPost
Smile should shutup when the big people are talking. -Original Message- From: lug-boun...@linux.or.ug [mailto:lug-boun...@linux.or.ug] On Behalf Of Joseph Kasoma Sent: 19 July 2013 11:04 To: Uganda Linux User Group Subject: Re: [LUG] [TechPost] Airtel Vs Orange Uganda Data Service Deathmatch - TechPost How does Smile Telecoms 4G LTE fair against providers like MTN,Orange and Airtel? ___ The Uganda Linux User Group: http://linux.or.ug Send messages to this mailing list by addressing e-mails to: LUG@linux.or.ug Mailing list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/lug@linux.or.ug/ Mailing list settings: http://kym.net/mailman/listinfo/lug To unsubscribe: http://kym.net/mailman/options/lug The Uganda LUG mailing list is generously hosted by INFOCOM: http://www.infocom.co.ug/ The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them (including attachments if any). The mailing list host is not responsible for them in any way. ___ The Uganda Linux User Group: http://linux.or.ug Send messages to this mailing list by addressing e-mails to: LUG@linux.or.ug Mailing list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/lug@linux.or.ug/ Mailing list settings: http://kym.net/mailman/listinfo/lug To unsubscribe: http://kym.net/mailman/options/lug The Uganda LUG mailing list is generously hosted by INFOCOM: http://www.infocom.co.ug/ The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them (including attachments if any). The mailing list host is not responsible for them in any way.
Re: [LUG] [TechPost] Airtel Vs Orange Uganda Data Service Deathmatch - TechPost
Kyle, Can we analyze this whole rob me blind thing? YOU are using YOUR airtime as YOUR DATA to surf the interwebs. Just because the ISP has not warned you that you have spent your data you feel robbed? Should the bank warn you that you are eating into your savings too? Should your phone come with a red light like a fuel gauge? No if they took the airtime and you got no value, that would be robbery. From: lug-boun...@linux.or.ug [mailto:lug-boun...@linux.or.ug] On Behalf Of Kyle Spencer Sent: 19 July 2013 11:09 To: Uganda Linux User Group Subject: Re: [LUG] [TechPost] Airtel Vs Orange Uganda Data Service Deathmatch - TechPost Orange likes to rob me blind when my data bundle runs out or expires; I recieve no SMS warning yet they start charging me for data at a ridiculous rate. I had a friend lose nearly 100k this way. On Jul 19, 2013 11:05 AM, Joseph Kasoma jkkas...@gmail.com mailto:jkkas...@gmail.com wrote: How does Smile Telecoms 4G LTE fair against providers like MTN,Orange and Airtel? ___ The Uganda Linux User Group: http://linux.or.ug Send messages to this mailing list by addressing e-mails to: LUG@linux.or.ug mailto:LUG@linux.or.ug Mailing list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/lug@linux.or.ug/ Mailing list settings: http://kym.net/mailman/listinfo/lug To unsubscribe: http://kym.net/mailman/options/lug The Uganda LUG mailing list is generously hosted by INFOCOM: http://www.infocom.co.ug/ The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them (including attachments if any). The mailing list host is not responsible for them in any way. ___ The Uganda Linux User Group: http://linux.or.ug Send messages to this mailing list by addressing e-mails to: LUG@linux.or.ug Mailing list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/lug@linux.or.ug/ Mailing list settings: http://kym.net/mailman/listinfo/lug To unsubscribe: http://kym.net/mailman/options/lug The Uganda LUG mailing list is generously hosted by INFOCOM: http://www.infocom.co.ug/ The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them (including attachments if any). The mailing list host is not responsible for them in any way.
Re: [LUG] OT:
Peter Atkin, how exactly did we handle the request badly? We're handling it to the best of our capabilities without straying outside the scope of this group. One asked for the firewall specs; one looks for network errors at the metric level (where the problem would be largely OS-independent); two reflects on the fact that many people (including Microsoft itself) gave up on ISA a long time ago; one person suggests that a Microsoft-specific problem might be more successfully answered in a group thus geared. So far, I see nothing you could complain about. If one asks about the solution to a tricky MS problem in an LUG, the answers will tend to stray towards get rid of MS, because that solution worked for many of us. Besides, an LUG is a special-interest group, not a maid service. We're all doing this because it interests and moves us, not because we are being paid for answering people's questions. Even if we were to be harsh (and just to be clear, we weren't; in fact, this group is one of the most OT-tolerant LUGs I've come across), one has no right to complain if the answers one seeks aren't to be found here. Especially not if the question is off topic. On 19 July 2013 10:30, Peter Atkin peter.at...@cfts.co wrote: Hi Peter ** ** Sorry you misunderstand has nothing to do with Windows or Linux it’s how you handled the request for help that was harsh in my opinion. ** ** Kind Regards Peter Atkin (C.T.O) cfts.co (u) ltd. Get I.T.Right +256-772-700781 | Skype: peter2cfu www.cfts.co.ug http://www.cfts.co/ | location detailshttp://www.cfts.co/contacts.html| view my profile http://ug.linkedin.com/in/peteratkin ** ** *From:* Peter C. Ndikuwera [mailto:pnd...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Friday, July 19, 2013 10:11 AM *To:* peter.at...@cfts.co; Uganda Linux User Group *Subject:* Re: [LUG] OT: ** ** What was harsh about that? ** ** Reading in *at least some capacity* do not use (nor *particularly* like) MS does not in any way state mutual exclusivity, or total dislike of Windows. ** ** Now, if I used terms like M$ and Winblows, then you'd have grounds for complaint! ** ** P. -- Evolution (n): A hypothetical process whereby infinitely improbable events occur with alarming frequency, order arises from chaos, and no one is given credit. ** ** On 19 July 2013 09:30, Peter Atkin peter.at...@cfts.co wrote: WOW that harsh, I like and use and like Windows and Linux they are not mutually exclusive, however this is a Linux group. Hi Simon, contact me and we will see what can be done.. Kind Regards Peter Atkin (C.T.O) cfts.co (u) ltd. Get I.T.Right +256-772-700781 | Skype: peter2cfu www.cfts.co.ug http://www.cfts.co/ | location detailshttp://www.cfts.co/contacts.html| view my profile http://ug.linkedin.com/in/peteratkin *From:* lug-boun...@linux.or.ug [mailto:lug-boun...@linux.or.ug] *On Behalf Of *Benjamin Tayehanpour *Sent:* Friday, July 19, 2013 12:52 AM *To:* Uganda Linux User Group *Subject:* Re: [LUG] OT: I would imagine that this enquiry would be more successful in another crowd. We're a Linux User Group, what brings us together is basically that we in at least some capacity do not use (nor particularly like) MS products. Try finding a Windows Power User Group or similar. On 18 July 2013 22:18, Peter C. Ndikuwera pnd...@gmail.com wrote: MS also gave up. They dropped ISA and its short lived replacement TMG (Threat Management Gateway) On Jul 18, 2013 2:18 PM, billyn...@gmail.com billyn...@gmail.com wrote: Sorry can not help I gave up on MS as a firewall to long ago :-) On 18 Jul 2013 11:03, Emmanuel Sekyewa eseky...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Simon, ISA 2006. Regards On 18 July 2013 12:51, Simon Vass sv...@etech.ug wrote: Which Firewall software are you running? Simon On 18 July 2013 10:45, Emmanuel Sekyewa eseky...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, I need help. I'm in a situation where I have a firewall with a connection to three networks. The LAN, remote network X and remote network Y. I connect to remote networks X and Y using two different routers and I'm able to reach both remote networks. I am however unable to reach the interface on the router connecting me to network Y. A ping to this interface returns *reply from A.B.C.D TTL expired in transit* A.B.C.D is a public IP address on the router connecting me to remote network Y None of my settings on the firewall have changed. The only variable is the addition of a redundant connection on that router and BGP, where the newly introduced link has been made the primary link. Any ideas on where the issue could be? Regards
Re: [LUG] [TechPost] Airtel Vs Orange Uganda Data Service Deathmatch - TechPost
The ISP, in this case Orange, should warn its customers that they are being automatically switched to a 1000x billing rate. To not do so is arguably unethical. On Jul 19, 2013 11:43 AM, James S. K. Makumbi jmark...@gmail.com wrote: Kyle, ** ** Can we analyze this whole “rob me blind” thing? YOU are using YOUR airtime as YOUR DATA to surf the interwebs. Just because the ISP has not warned you that you have spent your data you feel robbed? Should the bank warn you that you are eating into your savings too? Should your phone come with a red light like a fuel gauge? No if they took the airtime and you got no value, that would be robbery.** ** ** ** *From:* lug-boun...@linux.or.ug [mailto:lug-boun...@linux.or.ug] *On Behalf Of *Kyle Spencer *Sent:* 19 July 2013 11:09 *To:* Uganda Linux User Group *Subject:* Re: [LUG] [TechPost] Airtel Vs Orange Uganda Data Service Deathmatch - TechPost ** ** Orange likes to rob me blind when my data bundle runs out or expires; I recieve no SMS warning yet they start charging me for data at a ridiculous rate. I had a friend lose nearly 100k this way. On Jul 19, 2013 11:05 AM, Joseph Kasoma jkkas...@gmail.com wrote: How does Smile Telecoms 4G LTE fair against providers like MTN,Orange and Airtel? ___ The Uganda Linux User Group: http://linux.or.ug Send messages to this mailing list by addressing e-mails to: LUG@linux.or.ug Mailing list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/lug@linux.or.ug/ Mailing list settings: http://kym.net/mailman/listinfo/lug To unsubscribe: http://kym.net/mailman/options/lug The Uganda LUG mailing list is generously hosted by INFOCOM: http://www.infocom.co.ug/ The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them (including attachments if any). The mailing list host is not responsible for them in any way. ___ The Uganda Linux User Group: http://linux.or.ug Send messages to this mailing list by addressing e-mails to: LUG@linux.or.ug Mailing list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/lug@linux.or.ug/ Mailing list settings: http://kym.net/mailman/listinfo/lug To unsubscribe: http://kym.net/mailman/options/lug The Uganda LUG mailing list is generously hosted by INFOCOM: http://www.infocom.co.ug/ The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them (including attachments if any). The mailing list host is not responsible for them in any way. ___ The Uganda Linux User Group: http://linux.or.ug Send messages to this mailing list by addressing e-mails to: LUG@linux.or.ug Mailing list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/lug@linux.or.ug/ Mailing list settings: http://kym.net/mailman/listinfo/lug To unsubscribe: http://kym.net/mailman/options/lug The Uganda LUG mailing list is generously hosted by INFOCOM: http://www.infocom.co.ug/ The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them (including attachments if any). The mailing list host is not responsible for them in any way.
Re: [LUG] OT:
Just my opinion as stated.. Kind Regards Peter Atkin (C.T.O) cfts.co (u) ltd. Get I.T.Right +256-772-700781 | Skype: peter2cfu www.cfts.co.ug http://www.cfts.co/ | location details http://www.cfts.co/contacts.html | http://ug.linkedin.com/in/peteratkin view my profile From: benja...@mysteriousquilt.se [mailto:benja...@mysteriousquilt.se] On Behalf Of Benjamin Tayehanpour Sent: Friday, July 19, 2013 11:49 AM To: Peter Atkin; Uganda Linux User Group Subject: Re: [LUG] OT: Peter Atkin, how exactly did we handle the request badly? We're handling it to the best of our capabilities without straying outside the scope of this group. One asked for the firewall specs; one looks for network errors at the metric level (where the problem would be largely OS-independent); two reflects on the fact that many people (including Microsoft itself) gave up on ISA a long time ago; one person suggests that a Microsoft-specific problem might be more successfully answered in a group thus geared. So far, I see nothing you could complain about. If one asks about the solution to a tricky MS problem in an LUG, the answers will tend to stray towards get rid of MS, because that solution worked for many of us. Besides, an LUG is a special-interest group, not a maid service. We're all doing this because it interests and moves us, not because we are being paid for answering people's questions. Even if we were to be harsh (and just to be clear, we weren't; in fact, this group is one of the most OT-tolerant LUGs I've come across), one has no right to complain if the answers one seeks aren't to be found here. Especially not if the question is off topic. On 19 July 2013 10:30, Peter Atkin peter.at...@cfts.co wrote: Hi Peter Sorry you misunderstand has nothing to do with Windows or Linux it’s how you handled the request for help that was harsh in my opinion. Kind Regards Peter Atkin (C.T.O) cfts.co (u) ltd. Get I.T.Right +256-772-700781 tel:%2B256-772-700781 | Skype: peter2cfu www.cfts.co.ug http://www.cfts.co/ | location details http://www.cfts.co/contacts.html | http://ug.linkedin.com/in/peteratkin view my profile From: Peter C. Ndikuwera [mailto:pnd...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, July 19, 2013 10:11 AM To: peter.at...@cfts.co; Uganda Linux User Group Subject: Re: [LUG] OT: What was harsh about that? Reading in at least some capacity do not use (nor particularly like) MS does not in any way state mutual exclusivity, or total dislike of Windows. Now, if I used terms like M$ and Winblows, then you'd have grounds for complaint! P. -- Evolution (n): A hypothetical process whereby infinitely improbable events occur with alarming frequency, order arises from chaos, and no one is given credit. On 19 July 2013 09:30, Peter Atkin peter.at...@cfts.co wrote: WOW that harsh, I like and use and like Windows and Linux they are not mutually exclusive, however this is a Linux group. Hi Simon, contact me and we will see what can be done.. Kind Regards Peter Atkin (C.T.O) cfts.co (u) ltd. Get I.T.Right +256-772-700781 tel:%2B256-772-700781 | Skype: peter2cfu www.cfts.co.ug http://www.cfts.co/ | location details http://www.cfts.co/contacts.html | http://ug.linkedin.com/in/peteratkin view my profile From: lug-boun...@linux.or.ug [mailto:lug-boun...@linux.or.ug] On Behalf Of Benjamin Tayehanpour Sent: Friday, July 19, 2013 12:52 AM To: Uganda Linux User Group Subject: Re: [LUG] OT: I would imagine that this enquiry would be more successful in another crowd. We're a Linux User Group, what brings us together is basically that we in at least some capacity do not use (nor particularly like) MS products. Try finding a Windows Power User Group or similar. On 18 July 2013 22:18, Peter C. Ndikuwera pnd...@gmail.com wrote: MS also gave up. They dropped ISA and its short lived replacement TMG (Threat Management Gateway) On Jul 18, 2013 2:18 PM, billyn...@gmail.com billyn...@gmail.com wrote: Sorry can not help I gave up on MS as a firewall to long ago :-) On 18 Jul 2013 11:03, Emmanuel Sekyewa eseky...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Simon, ISA 2006. Regards On 18 July 2013 12:51, Simon Vass sv...@etech.ug wrote: Which Firewall software are you running? Simon On 18 July 2013 10:45, Emmanuel Sekyewa eseky...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, I need help. I'm in a situation where I have a firewall with a connection to three networks. The LAN, remote network X and remote network Y. I connect to remote networks X and Y using two different routers and I'm able to reach both remote networks. I am however unable to reach the interface on the router connecting me to network Y. A ping to this interface returns reply from A.B.C.D TTL expired in transit A.B.C.D is a public IP address on the router connecting me to remote network Y None of my settings on the firewall have changed. The only variable is
Re: [LUG] [TechPost] Airtel Vs Orange Uganda Data Service Deathmatch - TechPost
They are also currently limited to Kampala only. From: lug-boun...@linux.or.ug [mailto:lug-boun...@linux.or.ug] On Behalf Of Kyle Spencer Sent: 19 July 2013 11:35 To: placid Cc: Uganda Linux User Group Subject: Re: [LUG] [TechPost] Airtel Vs Orange Uganda Data Service Deathmatch - TechPost Smile is extremely fast but their pricing still doesn't make sense. They offer the same size bundles as Orange (and others) at approximately the same price, yet their service is capable of consuming them 50x as fast. They have an unlimited plan but are apparently unable to cap the speed so the cost is like 3m/mo or something ridiculous. On Jul 19, 2013 11:30 AM, placid pow...@yahoo.com mailto:pow...@yahoo.com wrote: Am currently using Smiletelecoms 4g LTE, in my opinion i have never been disappointed with their speeds..it never buffers, i think its the best i hv ever used _ From: Joseph Kasoma jkkas...@gmail.com mailto:jkkas...@gmail.com To: Uganda Linux User Group lug@linux.or.ug mailto:lug@linux.or.ug Sent: Friday, July 19, 2013 11:04 AM Subject: Re: [LUG] [TechPost] Airtel Vs Orange Uganda Data Service Deathmatch - TechPost How does Smile Telecoms 4G LTE fair against providers like MTN,Orange and Airtel? ___ The Uganda Linux User Group: http://linux.or.ug http://linux.or.ug/ Send messages to this mailing list by addressing e-mails to: LUG@linux.or.ug mailto:LUG@linux.or.ug Mailing list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/lug@linux.or.ug/ Mailing list settings: http://kym.net/mailman/listinfo/lug To unsubscribe: http://kym.net/mailman/options/lug The Uganda LUG mailing list is generously hosted by INFOCOM: http://www.infocom.co.ug/ The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them (including attachments if any). The mailing list host is not responsible for them in any way. ___ The Uganda Linux User Group: http://linux.or.ug Send messages to this mailing list by addressing e-mails to: LUG@linux.or.ug mailto:LUG@linux.or.ug Mailing list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/lug@linux.or.ug/ Mailing list settings: http://kym.net/mailman/listinfo/lug To unsubscribe: http://kym.net/mailman/options/lug The Uganda LUG mailing list is generously hosted by INFOCOM: http://www.infocom.co.ug/ The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them (including attachments if any). The mailing list host is not responsible for them in any way. ___ The Uganda Linux User Group: http://linux.or.ug Send messages to this mailing list by addressing e-mails to: LUG@linux.or.ug Mailing list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/lug@linux.or.ug/ Mailing list settings: http://kym.net/mailman/listinfo/lug To unsubscribe: http://kym.net/mailman/options/lug The Uganda LUG mailing list is generously hosted by INFOCOM: http://www.infocom.co.ug/ The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them (including attachments if any). The mailing list host is not responsible for them in any way.
Re: [LUG] [TechPost] Airtel Vs Orange Uganda Data Service Deathmatch - TechPost
James, be fair now. Most prominent ISPs in other countries give due warnings when a bundle is running out; in fact, it is a requirement in the EU. Is it really that crazy to want the Ugandan ISPs to aspire to international standards? Now, to give the L in LUG a chance: iptables has a quota module. You could easily make your Linux computer cut the Internet connection when a set amount of traffic has travelled through the interface. Now, when I lived in Uganda and had MTN I made a small shell script which automatically went online to MTNs web page and told me the amount of data traffic I had left. If you take such a script, make it construct an iptables rule based on the figure it receives, and put this script in /etc/network/if-up.d, it would automatically run and set the appropriate limit whenever you went online. On 19 July 2013 10:40, James S. K. Makumbi jmark...@gmail.com wrote: Kyle, ** ** Can we analyze this whole “rob me blind” thing? YOU are using YOUR airtime as YOUR DATA to surf the interwebs. Just because the ISP has not warned you that you have spent your data you feel robbed? Should the bank warn you that you are eating into your savings too? Should your phone come with a red light like a fuel gauge? No if they took the airtime and you got no value, that would be robbery.** ** ** ** *From:* lug-boun...@linux.or.ug [mailto:lug-boun...@linux.or.ug] *On Behalf Of *Kyle Spencer *Sent:* 19 July 2013 11:09 *To:* Uganda Linux User Group *Subject:* Re: [LUG] [TechPost] Airtel Vs Orange Uganda Data Service Deathmatch - TechPost ** ** Orange likes to rob me blind when my data bundle runs out or expires; I recieve no SMS warning yet they start charging me for data at a ridiculous rate. I had a friend lose nearly 100k this way. On Jul 19, 2013 11:05 AM, Joseph Kasoma jkkas...@gmail.com wrote: How does Smile Telecoms 4G LTE fair against providers like MTN,Orange and Airtel? ___ The Uganda Linux User Group: http://linux.or.ug Send messages to this mailing list by addressing e-mails to: LUG@linux.or.ug Mailing list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/lug@linux.or.ug/ Mailing list settings: http://kym.net/mailman/listinfo/lug To unsubscribe: http://kym.net/mailman/options/lug The Uganda LUG mailing list is generously hosted by INFOCOM: http://www.infocom.co.ug/ The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them (including attachments if any). The mailing list host is not responsible for them in any way. ___ The Uganda Linux User Group: http://linux.or.ug Send messages to this mailing list by addressing e-mails to: LUG@linux.or.ug Mailing list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/lug@linux.or.ug/ Mailing list settings: http://kym.net/mailman/listinfo/lug To unsubscribe: http://kym.net/mailman/options/lug The Uganda LUG mailing list is generously hosted by INFOCOM: http://www.infocom.co.ug/ The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them (including attachments if any). The mailing list host is not responsible for them in any way. ___ The Uganda Linux User Group: http://linux.or.ug Send messages to this mailing list by addressing e-mails to: LUG@linux.or.ug Mailing list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/lug@linux.or.ug/ Mailing list settings: http://kym.net/mailman/listinfo/lug To unsubscribe: http://kym.net/mailman/options/lug The Uganda LUG mailing list is generously hosted by INFOCOM: http://www.infocom.co.ug/ The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them (including attachments if any). The mailing list host is not responsible for them in any way.
Re: [LUG] [TechPost] Airtel Vs Orange Uganda Data Service Deathmatch - TechPost
Airtel does the same thing, although they do (sometimes) send an SMS warning when you reach 90% usage. -- Evolution (n): A hypothetical process whereby infinitely improbable events occur with alarming frequency, order arises from chaos, and no one is given credit. On 19 July 2013 11:55, Kyle Spencer k...@stormzero.com wrote: The ISP, in this case Orange, should warn its customers that they are being automatically switched to a 1000x billing rate. To not do so is arguably unethical. On Jul 19, 2013 11:43 AM, James S. K. Makumbi jmark...@gmail.com wrote: Kyle, ** ** Can we analyze this whole “rob me blind” thing? YOU are using YOUR airtime as YOUR DATA to surf the interwebs. Just because the ISP has not warned you that you have spent your data you feel robbed? Should the bank warn you that you are eating into your savings too? Should your phone come with a red light like a fuel gauge? No if they took the airtime and you got no value, that would be robbery.* *** ** ** *From:* lug-boun...@linux.or.ug [mailto:lug-boun...@linux.or.ug] *On Behalf Of *Kyle Spencer *Sent:* 19 July 2013 11:09 *To:* Uganda Linux User Group *Subject:* Re: [LUG] [TechPost] Airtel Vs Orange Uganda Data Service Deathmatch - TechPost ** ** Orange likes to rob me blind when my data bundle runs out or expires; I recieve no SMS warning yet they start charging me for data at a ridiculous rate. I had a friend lose nearly 100k this way. On Jul 19, 2013 11:05 AM, Joseph Kasoma jkkas...@gmail.com wrote: How does Smile Telecoms 4G LTE fair against providers like MTN,Orange and Airtel? ___ The Uganda Linux User Group: http://linux.or.ug Send messages to this mailing list by addressing e-mails to: LUG@linux.or.ug Mailing list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/lug@linux.or.ug/ Mailing list settings: http://kym.net/mailman/listinfo/lug To unsubscribe: http://kym.net/mailman/options/lug The Uganda LUG mailing list is generously hosted by INFOCOM: http://www.infocom.co.ug/ The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them (including attachments if any). The mailing list host is not responsible for them in any way. ___ The Uganda Linux User Group: http://linux.or.ug Send messages to this mailing list by addressing e-mails to: LUG@linux.or.ug Mailing list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/lug@linux.or.ug/ Mailing list settings: http://kym.net/mailman/listinfo/lug To unsubscribe: http://kym.net/mailman/options/lug The Uganda LUG mailing list is generously hosted by INFOCOM: http://www.infocom.co.ug/ The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them (including attachments if any). The mailing list host is not responsible for them in any way. ___ The Uganda Linux User Group: http://linux.or.ug Send messages to this mailing list by addressing e-mails to: LUG@linux.or.ug Mailing list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/lug@linux.or.ug/ Mailing list settings: http://kym.net/mailman/listinfo/lug To unsubscribe: http://kym.net/mailman/options/lug The Uganda LUG mailing list is generously hosted by INFOCOM: http://www.infocom.co.ug/ The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them (including attachments if any). The mailing list host is not responsible for them in any way. ___ The Uganda Linux User Group: http://linux.or.ug Send messages to this mailing list by addressing e-mails to: LUG@linux.or.ug Mailing list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/lug@linux.or.ug/ Mailing list settings: http://kym.net/mailman/listinfo/lug To unsubscribe: http://kym.net/mailman/options/lug The Uganda LUG mailing list is generously hosted by INFOCOM: http://www.infocom.co.ug/ The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them (including attachments if any). The mailing list host is not responsible for them in any way.
Re: [LUG] [TechPost] Airtel Vs Orange Uganda Data Service Deathmatch - TechPost
Be interested to know how the get such performance I thought they just piggy backed on the other providers. Kind Regards Peter Atkin (C.T.O) cfts.co (u) ltd. Get I.T.Right +256-772-700781 | Skype: peter2cfu www.cfts.co.ug http://www.cfts.co/ | location details http://www.cfts.co/contacts.html | http://ug.linkedin.com/in/peteratkin view my profile From: lug-boun...@linux.or.ug [mailto:lug-boun...@linux.or.ug] On Behalf Of James S. K. Makumbi Sent: Friday, July 19, 2013 11:59 AM To: 'Uganda Linux User Group'; 'placid' Subject: Re: [LUG] [TechPost] Airtel Vs Orange Uganda Data Service Deathmatch - TechPost They are also currently limited to Kampala only. From: lug-boun...@linux.or.ug [mailto:lug-boun...@linux.or.ug] On Behalf Of Kyle Spencer Sent: 19 July 2013 11:35 To: placid Cc: Uganda Linux User Group Subject: Re: [LUG] [TechPost] Airtel Vs Orange Uganda Data Service Deathmatch - TechPost Smile is extremely fast but their pricing still doesn't make sense. They offer the same size bundles as Orange (and others) at approximately the same price, yet their service is capable of consuming them 50x as fast. They have an unlimited plan but are apparently unable to cap the speed so the cost is like 3m/mo or something ridiculous. On Jul 19, 2013 11:30 AM, placid pow...@yahoo.com wrote: Am currently using Smiletelecoms 4g LTE, in my opinion i have never been disappointed with their speeds..it never buffers, i think its the best i hv ever used _ From: Joseph Kasoma jkkas...@gmail.com To: Uganda Linux User Group lug@linux.or.ug Sent: Friday, July 19, 2013 11:04 AM Subject: Re: [LUG] [TechPost] Airtel Vs Orange Uganda Data Service Deathmatch - TechPost How does Smile Telecoms 4G LTE fair against providers like MTN,Orange and Airtel? ___ The Uganda Linux User Group: http://linux.or.ug http://linux.or.ug/ Send messages to this mailing list by addressing e-mails to: LUG@linux.or.ug Mailing list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/lug@linux.or.ug/ Mailing list settings: http://kym.net/mailman/listinfo/lug To unsubscribe: http://kym.net/mailman/options/lug The Uganda LUG mailing list is generously hosted by INFOCOM: http://www.infocom.co.ug/ The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them (including attachments if any). The mailing list host is not responsible for them in any way. ___ The Uganda Linux User Group: http://linux.or.ug Send messages to this mailing list by addressing e-mails to: LUG@linux.or.ug Mailing list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/lug@linux.or.ug/ Mailing list settings: http://kym.net/mailman/listinfo/lug To unsubscribe: http://kym.net/mailman/options/lug The Uganda LUG mailing list is generously hosted by INFOCOM: http://www.infocom.co.ug/ The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them (including attachments if any). The mailing list host is not responsible for them in any way. __ This e-mail is company confidential and may contain legally privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, you should not copy, distribute, disclose or use the information it contains. Please e-mail the sender immediately and delete this message from your system. Note: e-mails are susceptible to corruption, interception and unauthorized amendment; we do not accept liability for any such changes, or for their consequences. ___ The Uganda Linux User Group: http://linux.or.ug Send messages to this mailing list by addressing e-mails to: LUG@linux.or.ug Mailing list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/lug@linux.or.ug/ Mailing list settings: http://kym.net/mailman/listinfo/lug To unsubscribe: http://kym.net/mailman/options/lug The Uganda LUG mailing list is generously hosted by INFOCOM: http://www.infocom.co.ug/ The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them (including attachments if any). The mailing list host is not responsible for them in any way.
Re: [LUG] post fix mail server
*Configuring Postfix* The Postfix mail server has one main configuration file */etc/postfix/ main.cf*. This is where you will do the bulk of your configurations. Open this file up in your favorite text editor (mine is Nano) and look for the following section: *myhostname = alias_maps = hash:/etc/aliases alias_database = hash:/etc/aliases myorigin = /etc/mailname mydestination = relayhost = mynetworks = mailbox_command = procmail -a $EXTENSION mailbox_size_limit = 0 recipient_delimiter = + inet_interfaces = all* On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 4:05 PM, Ronald rmugi...@gmail.com wrote: Hullo, Am looking for some one to help set up a post fix mail server for a quite small organisation. The mail server is in place with the mx records already registered. -- Ronald ___ The Uganda Linux User Group: http://linux.or.ug Send messages to this mailing list by addressing e-mails to: LUG@linux.or.ug Mailing list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/lug@linux.or.ug/ Mailing list settings: http://kym.net/mailman/listinfo/lug To unsubscribe: http://kym.net/mailman/options/lug The Uganda LUG mailing list is generously hosted by INFOCOM: http://www.infocom.co.ug/ The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them (including attachments if any). The mailing list host is not responsible for them in any way. ___ The Uganda Linux User Group: http://linux.or.ug Send messages to this mailing list by addressing e-mails to: LUG@linux.or.ug Mailing list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/lug@linux.or.ug/ Mailing list settings: http://kym.net/mailman/listinfo/lug To unsubscribe: http://kym.net/mailman/options/lug The Uganda LUG mailing list is generously hosted by INFOCOM: http://www.infocom.co.ug/ The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them (including attachments if any). The mailing list host is not responsible for them in any way.
Re: [LUG] [TechPost] Airtel Vs Orange Uganda Data Service Deathmatch - TechPost
Roke Telecom ;-) From: lug-boun...@linux.or.ug [mailto:lug-boun...@linux.or.ug] On Behalf Of Peter Atkin Sent: 19 July 2013 12:07 To: 'Uganda Linux User Group'; 'placid' Subject: Re: [LUG] [TechPost] Airtel Vs Orange Uganda Data Service Deathmatch - TechPost Be interested to know how the get such performance I thought they just piggy backed on the other providers. Kind Regards Peter Atkin (C.T.O) cfts.co (u) ltd. Get I.T.Right +256-772-700781 | Skype: peter2cfu www.cfts.co.ug http://www.cfts.co/ | location details http://www.cfts.co/contacts.html | http://ug.linkedin.com/in/peteratkin view my profile From: lug-boun...@linux.or.ug mailto:lug-boun...@linux.or.ug [mailto:lug-boun...@linux.or.ug] On Behalf Of James S. K. Makumbi Sent: Friday, July 19, 2013 11:59 AM To: 'Uganda Linux User Group'; 'placid' Subject: Re: [LUG] [TechPost] Airtel Vs Orange Uganda Data Service Deathmatch - TechPost They are also currently limited to Kampala only. From: lug-boun...@linux.or.ug mailto:lug-boun...@linux.or.ug [mailto:lug-boun...@linux.or.ug] On Behalf Of Kyle Spencer Sent: 19 July 2013 11:35 To: placid Cc: Uganda Linux User Group Subject: Re: [LUG] [TechPost] Airtel Vs Orange Uganda Data Service Deathmatch - TechPost Smile is extremely fast but their pricing still doesn't make sense. They offer the same size bundles as Orange (and others) at approximately the same price, yet their service is capable of consuming them 50x as fast. They have an unlimited plan but are apparently unable to cap the speed so the cost is like 3m/mo or something ridiculous. On Jul 19, 2013 11:30 AM, placid pow...@yahoo.com mailto:pow...@yahoo.com wrote: Am currently using Smiletelecoms 4g LTE, in my opinion i have never been disappointed with their speeds..it never buffers, i think its the best i hv ever used _ From: Joseph Kasoma jkkas...@gmail.com mailto:jkkas...@gmail.com To: Uganda Linux User Group lug@linux.or.ug mailto:lug@linux.or.ug Sent: Friday, July 19, 2013 11:04 AM Subject: Re: [LUG] [TechPost] Airtel Vs Orange Uganda Data Service Deathmatch - TechPost How does Smile Telecoms 4G LTE fair against providers like MTN,Orange and Airtel? ___ The Uganda Linux User Group: http://linux.or.ug http://linux.or.ug/ Send messages to this mailing list by addressing e-mails to: LUG@linux.or.ug mailto:LUG@linux.or.ug Mailing list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/lug@linux.or.ug/ Mailing list settings: http://kym.net/mailman/listinfo/lug To unsubscribe: http://kym.net/mailman/options/lug The Uganda LUG mailing list is generously hosted by INFOCOM: http://www.infocom.co.ug/ The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them (including attachments if any). The mailing list host is not responsible for them in any way. ___ The Uganda Linux User Group: http://linux.or.ug Send messages to this mailing list by addressing e-mails to: LUG@linux.or.ug mailto:LUG@linux.or.ug Mailing list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/lug@linux.or.ug/ Mailing list settings: http://kym.net/mailman/listinfo/lug To unsubscribe: http://kym.net/mailman/options/lug The Uganda LUG mailing list is generously hosted by INFOCOM: http://www.infocom.co.ug/ The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them (including attachments if any). The mailing list host is not responsible for them in any way. __ This e-mail is company confidential and may contain legally privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, you should not copy, distribute, disclose or use the information it contains. Please e-mail the sender immediately and delete this message from your system. Note: e-mails are susceptible to corruption, interception and unauthorized amendment; we do not accept liability for any such changes, or for their consequences. ___ The Uganda Linux User Group: http://linux.or.ug Send messages to this mailing list by addressing e-mails to: LUG@linux.or.ug Mailing list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/lug@linux.or.ug/ Mailing list settings: http://kym.net/mailman/listinfo/lug To unsubscribe: http://kym.net/mailman/options/lug The Uganda LUG mailing list is generously hosted by INFOCOM: http://www.infocom.co.ug/ The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them (including attachments if any). The mailing list host is not responsible for them in any way.
Re: [LUG] [TechPost] Airtel Vs Orange Uganda Data Service Deathmatch - TechPost
you need to understand your internet needs and subscribe acordingly to avoid the rob me blind stuff and at the same time the ISPs needs to learn to effectively relate to their customers to avoid such a scenario. I dont think a reminding sms to alert the subscriber of its data usage update could be a bad idea McNellu Sent from my iPhone 5 On Jul 19, 2013, at 11:43 AM, James S. K. Makumbi jmark...@gmail.com wrote: Kyle, Can we analyze this whole “rob me blind” thing? YOU are using YOUR airtime as YOUR DATA to surf the interwebs. Just because the ISP has not warned you that you have spent your data you feel robbed? Should the bank warn you that you are eating into your savings too? Should your phone come with a red light like a fuel gauge? No if they took the airtime and you got no value, that would be robbery. *From:* lug-boun...@linux.or.ug [mailto:lug-boun...@linux.or.uglug-boun...@linux.or.ug] *On Behalf Of *Kyle Spencer *Sent:* 19 July 2013 11:09 *To:* Uganda Linux User Group *Subject:* Re: [LUG] [TechPost] Airtel Vs Orange Uganda Data Service Deathmatch - TechPost Orange likes to rob me blind when my data bundle runs out or expires; I recieve no SMS warning yet they start charging me for data at a ridiculous rate. I had a friend lose nearly 100k this way. On Jul 19, 2013 11:05 AM, Joseph Kasoma jkkas...@gmail.com wrote: How does Smile Telecoms 4G LTE fair against providers like MTN,Orange and Airtel? ___ The Uganda Linux User Group: http://linux.or.ug Send messages to this mailing list by addressing e-mails to: LUG@linux.or.ug Mailing list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/lug@linux.or.ug/ Mailing list settings: http://kym.net/mailman/listinfo/lug To unsubscribe: http://kym.net/mailman/options/lug The Uganda LUG mailing list is generously hosted by INFOCOM: http://www.infocom.co.ug/ The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them (including attachments if any). The mailing list host is not responsible for them in any way. ___ The Uganda Linux User Group: http://linux.or.ug Send messages to this mailing list by addressing e-mails to: LUG@linux.or.ug Mailing list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/lug@linux.or.ug/ Mailing list settings: http://kym.net/mailman/listinfo/lug To unsubscribe: http://kym.net/mailman/options/lug The Uganda LUG mailing list is generously hosted by INFOCOM: http://www.infocom.co.ug/ The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them (including attachments if any). The mailing list host is not responsible for them in any way. ___ The Uganda Linux User Group: http://linux.or.ug Send messages to this mailing list by addressing e-mails to: LUG@linux.or.ug Mailing list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/lug@linux.or.ug/ Mailing list settings: http://kym.net/mailman/listinfo/lug To unsubscribe: http://kym.net/mailman/options/lug The Uganda LUG mailing list is generously hosted by INFOCOM: http://www.infocom.co.ug/ The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them (including attachments if any). The mailing list host is not responsible for them in any way.
Re: [LUG] [TechPost] Airtel Vs Orange Uganda Data Service Deathmatch - TechPost
I agree that they should warn you. From: lug-boun...@linux.or.ug [mailto:lug-boun...@linux.or.ug] On Behalf Of Kyle Spencer Sent: 19 July 2013 11:56 To: Uganda Linux User Group Subject: Re: [LUG] [TechPost] Airtel Vs Orange Uganda Data Service Deathmatch - TechPost The ISP, in this case Orange, should warn its customers that they are being automatically switched to a 1000x billing rate. To not do so is arguably unethical. On Jul 19, 2013 11:43 AM, James S. K. Makumbi jmark...@gmail.com mailto:jmark...@gmail.com wrote: Kyle, Can we analyze this whole rob me blind thing? YOU are using YOUR airtime as YOUR DATA to surf the interwebs. Just because the ISP has not warned you that you have spent your data you feel robbed? Should the bank warn you that you are eating into your savings too? Should your phone come with a red light like a fuel gauge? No if they took the airtime and you got no value, that would be robbery. From: lug-boun...@linux.or.ug mailto:lug-boun...@linux.or.ug [mailto:lug-boun...@linux.or.ug mailto:lug-boun...@linux.or.ug ] On Behalf Of Kyle Spencer Sent: 19 July 2013 11:09 To: Uganda Linux User Group Subject: Re: [LUG] [TechPost] Airtel Vs Orange Uganda Data Service Deathmatch - TechPost Orange likes to rob me blind when my data bundle runs out or expires; I recieve no SMS warning yet they start charging me for data at a ridiculous rate. I had a friend lose nearly 100k this way. On Jul 19, 2013 11:05 AM, Joseph Kasoma jkkas...@gmail.com mailto:jkkas...@gmail.com wrote: How does Smile Telecoms 4G LTE fair against providers like MTN,Orange and Airtel? ___ The Uganda Linux User Group: http://linux.or.ug Send messages to this mailing list by addressing e-mails to: LUG@linux.or.ug mailto:LUG@linux.or.ug Mailing list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/lug@linux.or.ug/ Mailing list settings: http://kym.net/mailman/listinfo/lug To unsubscribe: http://kym.net/mailman/options/lug The Uganda LUG mailing list is generously hosted by INFOCOM: http://www.infocom.co.ug/ The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them (including attachments if any). The mailing list host is not responsible for them in any way. ___ The Uganda Linux User Group: http://linux.or.ug Send messages to this mailing list by addressing e-mails to: LUG@linux.or.ug mailto:LUG@linux.or.ug Mailing list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/lug@linux.or.ug/ Mailing list settings: http://kym.net/mailman/listinfo/lug To unsubscribe: http://kym.net/mailman/options/lug The Uganda LUG mailing list is generously hosted by INFOCOM: http://www.infocom.co.ug/ The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them (including attachments if any). The mailing list host is not responsible for them in any way. ___ The Uganda Linux User Group: http://linux.or.ug Send messages to this mailing list by addressing e-mails to: LUG@linux.or.ug Mailing list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/lug@linux.or.ug/ Mailing list settings: http://kym.net/mailman/listinfo/lug To unsubscribe: http://kym.net/mailman/options/lug The Uganda LUG mailing list is generously hosted by INFOCOM: http://www.infocom.co.ug/ The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them (including attachments if any). The mailing list host is not responsible for them in any way.
Re: [LUG] [TechPost] Airtel Vs Orange Uganda Data Service Deathmatch - TechPost
They have low network congestion, fiber backhaul, and a fast last-mile delivery method (4G). On Jul 19, 2013 12:05 PM, Peter Atkin peter.at...@cfts.co wrote: Be interested to know how the get such performance I thought they just piggy backed on the other providers. ** ** Kind Regards Peter Atkin (C.T.O) cfts.co (u) ltd. Get I.T.Right +256-772-700781 | Skype: peter2cfu www.cfts.co.ug http://www.cfts.co/ | location detailshttp://www.cfts.co/contacts.html| view my profile http://ug.linkedin.com/in/peteratkin ** ** *From:* lug-boun...@linux.or.ug [mailto:lug-boun...@linux.or.ug] *On Behalf Of *James S. K. Makumbi *Sent:* Friday, July 19, 2013 11:59 AM *To:* 'Uganda Linux User Group'; 'placid' *Subject:* Re: [LUG] [TechPost] Airtel Vs Orange Uganda Data Service Deathmatch - TechPost ** ** They are also currently limited to Kampala only. ** ** *From:* lug-boun...@linux.or.ug [mailto:lug-boun...@linux.or.uglug-boun...@linux.or.ug] *On Behalf Of *Kyle Spencer *Sent:* 19 July 2013 11:35 *To:* placid *Cc:* Uganda Linux User Group *Subject:* Re: [LUG] [TechPost] Airtel Vs Orange Uganda Data Service Deathmatch - TechPost ** ** Smile is extremely fast but their pricing still doesn't make sense. They offer the same size bundles as Orange (and others) at approximately the same price, yet their service is capable of consuming them 50x as fast. ** ** They have an unlimited plan but are apparently unable to cap the speed so the cost is like 3m/mo or something ridiculous. On Jul 19, 2013 11:30 AM, placid pow...@yahoo.com wrote: Am currently using Smiletelecoms 4g LTE, in my opinion i have never been disappointed with their speeds..it never buffers, i think its the best i hv ever used ** ** ** ** -- *From:* Joseph Kasoma jkkas...@gmail.com *To:* Uganda Linux User Group lug@linux.or.ug *Sent:* Friday, July 19, 2013 11:04 AM *Subject:* Re: [LUG] [TechPost] Airtel Vs Orange Uganda Data Service Deathmatch - TechPost How does Smile Telecoms 4G LTE fair against providers like MTN,Orange and Airtel? ___ The Uganda Linux User Group: http://linux.or.ug Send messages to this mailing list by addressing e-mails to: LUG@linux.or.ug Mailing list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/lug@linux.or.ug/ Mailing list settings: http://kym.net/mailman/listinfo/lug To unsubscribe: http://kym.net/mailman/options/lug The Uganda LUG mailing list is generously hosted by INFOCOM: http://www.infocom.co.ug/ The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them (including attachments if any). The mailing list host is not responsible for them in any way. ___ The Uganda Linux User Group: http://linux.or.ug Send messages to this mailing list by addressing e-mails to: LUG@linux.or.ug Mailing list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/lug@linux.or.ug/ Mailing list settings: http://kym.net/mailman/listinfo/lug To unsubscribe: http://kym.net/mailman/options/lug The Uganda LUG mailing list is generously hosted by INFOCOM: http://www.infocom.co.ug/ The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them (including attachments if any). The mailing list host is not responsible for them in any way. __ This e-mail is company confidential and may contain legally privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, you should not copy, distribute, disclose or use the information it contains. Please e-mail the sender immediately and delete this message from your system. Note: e-mails are susceptible to corruption, interception and unauthorized amendment; we do not accept liability for any such changes, or for their consequences. ___ The Uganda Linux User Group: http://linux.or.ug Send messages to this mailing list by addressing e-mails to: LUG@linux.or.ug Mailing list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/lug@linux.or.ug/ Mailing list settings: http://kym.net/mailman/listinfo/lug To unsubscribe: http://kym.net/mailman/options/lug The Uganda LUG mailing list is generously hosted by INFOCOM: http://www.infocom.co.ug/ The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them (including attachments if any). The mailing list host is not responsible for them in any way. ___ The Uganda Linux User Group: http://linux.or.ug Send messages to this mailing list by addressing e-mails to: LUG@linux.or.ug Mailing list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/lug@linux.or.ug/ Mailing list settings: http://kym.net/mailman/listinfo/lug To unsubscribe: http://kym.net/mailman/options/lug The Uganda LUG mailing list is generously hosted by INFOCOM:
Re: [LUG] [TechPost] Airtel Vs Orange Uganda Data Service Deathmatch - TechPost
I do the same thing with my phone. But you must remember to reset iptables when you load new airtime! Orange ALWAYS sends me my sms in time but that is because I REALLY got in their hair about it. We need a Linux lab to see all the “best practices” in action. From: lug-boun...@linux.or.ug [mailto:lug-boun...@linux.or.ug] On Behalf Of Benjamin Tayehanpour Sent: 19 July 2013 12:01 To: Uganda Linux User Group Subject: Re: [LUG] [TechPost] Airtel Vs Orange Uganda Data Service Deathmatch - TechPost James, be fair now. Most prominent ISPs in other countries give due warnings when a bundle is running out; in fact, it is a requirement in the EU. Is it really that crazy to want the Ugandan ISPs to aspire to international standards? Now, to give the L in LUG a chance: iptables has a quota module. You could easily make your Linux computer cut the Internet connection when a set amount of traffic has travelled through the interface. Now, when I lived in Uganda and had MTN I made a small shell script which automatically went online to MTNs web page and told me the amount of data traffic I had left. If you take such a script, make it construct an iptables rule based on the figure it receives, and put this script in /etc/network/if-up.d, it would automatically run and set the appropriate limit whenever you went online. On 19 July 2013 10:40, James S. K. Makumbi jmark...@gmail.com mailto:jmark...@gmail.com wrote: Kyle, Can we analyze this whole “rob me blind” thing? YOU are using YOUR airtime as YOUR DATA to surf the interwebs. Just because the ISP has not warned you that you have spent your data you feel robbed? Should the bank warn you that you are eating into your savings too? Should your phone come with a red light like a fuel gauge? No if they took the airtime and you got no value, that would be robbery. From: lug-boun...@linux.or.ug mailto:lug-boun...@linux.or.ug [mailto:lug-boun...@linux.or.ug mailto:lug-boun...@linux.or.ug ] On Behalf Of Kyle Spencer Sent: 19 July 2013 11:09 To: Uganda Linux User Group Subject: Re: [LUG] [TechPost] Airtel Vs Orange Uganda Data Service Deathmatch - TechPost Orange likes to rob me blind when my data bundle runs out or expires; I recieve no SMS warning yet they start charging me for data at a ridiculous rate. I had a friend lose nearly 100k this way. On Jul 19, 2013 11:05 AM, Joseph Kasoma jkkas...@gmail.com mailto:jkkas...@gmail.com wrote: How does Smile Telecoms 4G LTE fair against providers like MTN,Orange and Airtel? ___ The Uganda Linux User Group: http://linux.or.ug Send messages to this mailing list by addressing e-mails to: LUG@linux.or.ug mailto:LUG@linux.or.ug Mailing list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/lug@linux.or.ug/ Mailing list settings: http://kym.net/mailman/listinfo/lug To unsubscribe: http://kym.net/mailman/options/lug The Uganda LUG mailing list is generously hosted by INFOCOM: http://www.infocom.co.ug/ The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them (including attachments if any). The mailing list host is not responsible for them in any way. ___ The Uganda Linux User Group: http://linux.or.ug Send messages to this mailing list by addressing e-mails to: LUG@linux.or.ug mailto:LUG@linux.or.ug Mailing list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/lug@linux.or.ug/ Mailing list settings: http://kym.net/mailman/listinfo/lug To unsubscribe: http://kym.net/mailman/options/lug The Uganda LUG mailing list is generously hosted by INFOCOM: http://www.infocom.co.ug/ The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them (including attachments if any). The mailing list host is not responsible for them in any way. ___ The Uganda Linux User Group: http://linux.or.ug Send messages to this mailing list by addressing e-mails to: LUG@linux.or.ug Mailing list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/lug@linux.or.ug/ Mailing list settings: http://kym.net/mailman/listinfo/lug To unsubscribe: http://kym.net/mailman/options/lug The Uganda LUG mailing list is generously hosted by INFOCOM: http://www.infocom.co.ug/ The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them (including attachments if any). The mailing list host is not responsible for them in any way.
Re: [LUG] [TechPost] Airtel Vs Orange Uganda Data Service Deathmatch - TechPost
Let us not indirectly bash Kyle here please :) I think ISPs should turn off the ability to use your airtime as data since they already offer a separate service where you actually buy data. From: lug-boun...@linux.or.ug [mailto:lug-boun...@linux.or.ug] On Behalf Of DENIS McNelly Sent: 19 July 2013 12:09 To: Uganda Linux User Group Subject: Re: [LUG] [TechPost] Airtel Vs Orange Uganda Data Service Deathmatch - TechPost you need to understand your internet needs and subscribe acordingly to avoid the rob me blind stuff and at the same time the ISPs needs to learn to effectively relate to their customers to avoid such a scenario. I dont think a reminding sms to alert the subscriber of its data usage update could be a bad idea McNellu Sent from my iPhone 5 On Jul 19, 2013, at 11:43 AM, James S. K. Makumbi jmark...@gmail.com mailto:jmark...@gmail.com wrote: Kyle, Can we analyze this whole rob me blind thing? YOU are using YOUR airtime as YOUR DATA to surf the interwebs. Just because the ISP has not warned you that you have spent your data you feel robbed? Should the bank warn you that you are eating into your savings too? Should your phone come with a red light like a fuel gauge? No if they took the airtime and you got no value, that would be robbery. From: lug-boun...@linux.or.ug mailto:lug-boun...@linux.or.ug [mailto:lug-boun...@linux.or.ug] On Behalf Of Kyle Spencer Sent: 19 July 2013 11:09 To: Uganda Linux User Group Subject: Re: [LUG] [TechPost] Airtel Vs Orange Uganda Data Service Deathmatch - TechPost Orange likes to rob me blind when my data bundle runs out or expires; I recieve no SMS warning yet they start charging me for data at a ridiculous rate. I had a friend lose nearly 100k this way. On Jul 19, 2013 11:05 AM, Joseph Kasoma jkkas...@gmail.com mailto:jkkas...@gmail.com wrote: How does Smile Telecoms 4G LTE fair against providers like MTN,Orange and Airtel? ___ The Uganda Linux User Group: http://linux.or.ug Send messages to this mailing list by addressing e-mails to: LUG@linux.or.ug mailto:LUG@linux.or.ug Mailing list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/lug@linux.or.ug/ Mailing list settings: http://kym.net/mailman/listinfo/lug To unsubscribe: http://kym.net/mailman/options/lug The Uganda LUG mailing list is generously hosted by INFOCOM: http://www.infocom.co.ug/ The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them (including attachments if any). The mailing list host is not responsible for them in any way. ___ The Uganda Linux User Group: http://linux.or.ug Send messages to this mailing list by addressing e-mails to: LUG@linux.or.ug mailto:LUG@linux.or.ug Mailing list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/lug@linux.or.ug/ Mailing list settings: http://kym.net/mailman/listinfo/lug To unsubscribe: http://kym.net/mailman/options/lug The Uganda LUG mailing list is generously hosted by INFOCOM: http://www.infocom.co.ug/ The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them (including attachments if any). The mailing list host is not responsible for them in any way. ___ The Uganda Linux User Group: http://linux.or.ug Send messages to this mailing list by addressing e-mails to: LUG@linux.or.ug Mailing list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/lug@linux.or.ug/ Mailing list settings: http://kym.net/mailman/listinfo/lug To unsubscribe: http://kym.net/mailman/options/lug The Uganda LUG mailing list is generously hosted by INFOCOM: http://www.infocom.co.ug/ The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them (including attachments if any). The mailing list host is not responsible for them in any way.
Re: [LUG] [TechPost] Airtel Vs Orange Uganda Data Service Deathmatch - TechPost
I subscribed appropriately and even had 1.2GB left on my bundle. The problem was that the bundle EXPIRED, I was not notified, and got automagically switched to a rape rate. On Jul 19, 2013 12:11 PM, DENIS McNelly amatide...@gmail.com wrote: you need to understand your internet needs and subscribe acordingly to avoid the rob me blind stuff and at the same time the ISPs needs to learn to effectively relate to their customers to avoid such a scenario. I dont think a reminding sms to alert the subscriber of its data usage update could be a bad idea McNellu Sent from my iPhone 5 On Jul 19, 2013, at 11:43 AM, James S. K. Makumbi jmark...@gmail.com wrote: Kyle, Can we analyze this whole “rob me blind” thing? YOU are using YOUR airtime as YOUR DATA to surf the interwebs. Just because the ISP has not warned you that you have spent your data you feel robbed? Should the bank warn you that you are eating into your savings too? Should your phone come with a red light like a fuel gauge? No if they took the airtime and you got no value, that would be robbery. *From:* lug-boun...@linux.or.ug [mailto:lug-boun...@linux.or.uglug-boun...@linux.or.ug] *On Behalf Of *Kyle Spencer *Sent:* 19 July 2013 11:09 *To:* Uganda Linux User Group *Subject:* Re: [LUG] [TechPost] Airtel Vs Orange Uganda Data Service Deathmatch - TechPost Orange likes to rob me blind when my data bundle runs out or expires; I recieve no SMS warning yet they start charging me for data at a ridiculous rate. I had a friend lose nearly 100k this way. On Jul 19, 2013 11:05 AM, Joseph Kasoma jkkas...@gmail.com wrote: How does Smile Telecoms 4G LTE fair against providers like MTN,Orange and Airtel? ___ The Uganda Linux User Group: http://linux.or.ug Send messages to this mailing list by addressing e-mails to: LUG@linux.or.ug Mailing list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/lug@linux.or.ug/ Mailing list settings: http://kym.net/mailman/listinfo/lug To unsubscribe: http://kym.net/mailman/options/lug The Uganda LUG mailing list is generously hosted by INFOCOM: http://www.infocom.co.ug/ The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them (including attachments if any). The mailing list host is not responsible for them in any way. ___ The Uganda Linux User Group: http://linux.or.ug Send messages to this mailing list by addressing e-mails to: LUG@linux.or.ug Mailing list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/lug@linux.or.ug/ Mailing list settings: http://kym.net/mailman/listinfo/lug To unsubscribe: http://kym.net/mailman/options/lug The Uganda LUG mailing list is generously hosted by INFOCOM: http://www.infocom.co.ug/ The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them (including attachments if any). The mailing list host is not responsible for them in any way. ___ The Uganda Linux User Group: http://linux.or.ug Send messages to this mailing list by addressing e-mails to: LUG@linux.or.ug Mailing list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/lug@linux.or.ug/ Mailing list settings: http://kym.net/mailman/listinfo/lug To unsubscribe: http://kym.net/mailman/options/lug The Uganda LUG mailing list is generously hosted by INFOCOM: http://www.infocom.co.ug/ The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them (including attachments if any). The mailing list host is not responsible for them in any way. ___ The Uganda Linux User Group: http://linux.or.ug Send messages to this mailing list by addressing e-mails to: LUG@linux.or.ug Mailing list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/lug@linux.or.ug/ Mailing list settings: http://kym.net/mailman/listinfo/lug To unsubscribe: http://kym.net/mailman/options/lug The Uganda LUG mailing list is generously hosted by INFOCOM: http://www.infocom.co.ug/ The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them (including attachments if any). The mailing list host is not responsible for them in any way.
Re: [LUG] [TechPost] Airtel Vs Orange Uganda Data Service Deathmatch - TechPost
WOW! Now this I admit I had not considered. Yes, the expiry thing is robbery. Consider longer periods and lower data quantities? I do 1 month and 700mb. It has never expired on me. I did know one lady who got up to 1gb by renewing a daily 300mb. From: lug-boun...@linux.or.ug [mailto:lug-boun...@linux.or.ug] On Behalf Of Kyle Spencer Sent: 19 July 2013 12:17 To: Uganda Linux User Group Subject: Re: [LUG] [TechPost] Airtel Vs Orange Uganda Data Service Deathmatch - TechPost I subscribed appropriately and even had 1.2GB left on my bundle. The problem was that the bundle EXPIRED, I was not notified, and got automagically switched to a rape rate. On Jul 19, 2013 12:11 PM, DENIS McNelly amatide...@gmail.com mailto:amatide...@gmail.com wrote: you need to understand your internet needs and subscribe acordingly to avoid the rob me blind stuff and at the same time the ISPs needs to learn to effectively relate to their customers to avoid such a scenario. I dont think a reminding sms to alert the subscriber of its data usage update could be a bad idea McNellu Sent from my iPhone 5 On Jul 19, 2013, at 11:43 AM, James S. K. Makumbi jmark...@gmail.com mailto:jmark...@gmail.com wrote: Kyle, Can we analyze this whole rob me blind thing? YOU are using YOUR airtime as YOUR DATA to surf the interwebs. Just because the ISP has not warned you that you have spent your data you feel robbed? Should the bank warn you that you are eating into your savings too? Should your phone come with a red light like a fuel gauge? No if they took the airtime and you got no value, that would be robbery. From: lug-boun...@linux.or.ug mailto:lug-boun...@linux.or.ug [mailto:lug-boun...@linux.or.ug] On Behalf Of Kyle Spencer Sent: 19 July 2013 11:09 To: Uganda Linux User Group Subject: Re: [LUG] [TechPost] Airtel Vs Orange Uganda Data Service Deathmatch - TechPost Orange likes to rob me blind when my data bundle runs out or expires; I recieve no SMS warning yet they start charging me for data at a ridiculous rate. I had a friend lose nearly 100k this way. On Jul 19, 2013 11:05 AM, Joseph Kasoma jkkas...@gmail.com mailto:jkkas...@gmail.com wrote: How does Smile Telecoms 4G LTE fair against providers like MTN,Orange and Airtel? ___ The Uganda Linux User Group: http://linux.or.ug Send messages to this mailing list by addressing e-mails to: LUG@linux.or.ug mailto:LUG@linux.or.ug Mailing list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/lug@linux.or.ug/ Mailing list settings: http://kym.net/mailman/listinfo/lug To unsubscribe: http://kym.net/mailman/options/lug The Uganda LUG mailing list is generously hosted by INFOCOM: http://www.infocom.co.ug/ The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them (including attachments if any). The mailing list host is not responsible for them in any way. ___ The Uganda Linux User Group: http://linux.or.ug Send messages to this mailing list by addressing e-mails to: LUG@linux.or.ug mailto:LUG@linux.or.ug Mailing list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/lug@linux.or.ug/ Mailing list settings: http://kym.net/mailman/listinfo/lug To unsubscribe: http://kym.net/mailman/options/lug The Uganda LUG mailing list is generously hosted by INFOCOM: http://www.infocom.co.ug/ The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them (including attachments if any). The mailing list host is not responsible for them in any way. ___ The Uganda Linux User Group: http://linux.or.ug Send messages to this mailing list by addressing e-mails to: LUG@linux.or.ug mailto:LUG@linux.or.ug Mailing list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/lug@linux.or.ug/ Mailing list settings: http://kym.net/mailman/listinfo/lug To unsubscribe: http://kym.net/mailman/options/lug The Uganda LUG mailing list is generously hosted by INFOCOM: http://www.infocom.co.ug/ The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them (including attachments if any). The mailing list host is not responsible for them in any way. ___ The Uganda Linux User Group: http://linux.or.ug Send messages to this mailing list by addressing e-mails to: LUG@linux.or.ug Mailing list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/lug@linux.or.ug/ Mailing list settings: http://kym.net/mailman/listinfo/lug To unsubscribe: http://kym.net/mailman/options/lug The Uganda LUG mailing list is generously hosted by INFOCOM: http://www.infocom.co.ug/ The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them (including attachments if any). The mailing list host is not responsible for them in any way.
Re: [LUG] [TechPost] Airtel Vs Orange Uganda Data Service Deathmatch - TechPost
To protect my airtime from robbery, I load only enough for the bundles that I need, have it deducted immediately so that when the bundle runs out, there's no airtime to loose. For example 20,000 for monthly Pakalast covers calls to Airtel and Warid, 5,000 SMS bundle, 40/= per SMS to all networks, then Data bundle as the need arises. So I can call most people, SMS all and browse with 0 balance. I then keep unscratched airtime cards on me for when any of the bundles runs out. For calls to networks outside the marriage, I load airtime on the MTN number which has no subscriptions to any services so I'll find it still on phone even if I don't make any calls for days. In short, keeping unused airtime in your wallet is safer than loading it. Joshua Sent from my Samsung Galaxy Tab 2 On Jul 19, 2013 11:10 AM, Kyle Spencer k...@stormzero.com wrote: Orange likes to rob me blind when my data bundle runs out or expires; I recieve no SMS warning yet they start charging me for data at a ridiculous rate. I had a friend lose nearly 100k this way. On Jul 19, 2013 11:05 AM, Joseph Kasoma jkkas...@gmail.com wrote: How does Smile Telecoms 4G LTE fair against providers like MTN,Orange and Airtel? ___ The Uganda Linux User Group: http://linux.or.ug Send messages to this mailing list by addressing e-mails to: LUG@linux.or.ug Mailing list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/lug@linux.or.ug/ Mailing list settings: http://kym.net/mailman/listinfo/lug To unsubscribe: http://kym.net/mailman/options/lug The Uganda LUG mailing list is generously hosted by INFOCOM: http://www.infocom.co.ug/ The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them (including attachments if any). The mailing list host is not responsible for them in any way. ___ The Uganda Linux User Group: http://linux.or.ug Send messages to this mailing list by addressing e-mails to: LUG@linux.or.ug Mailing list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/lug@linux.or.ug/ Mailing list settings: http://kym.net/mailman/listinfo/lug To unsubscribe: http://kym.net/mailman/options/lug The Uganda LUG mailing list is generously hosted by INFOCOM: http://www.infocom.co.ug/ The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them (including attachments if any). The mailing list host is not responsible for them in any way. ___ The Uganda Linux User Group: http://linux.or.ug Send messages to this mailing list by addressing e-mails to: LUG@linux.or.ug Mailing list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/lug@linux.or.ug/ Mailing list settings: http://kym.net/mailman/listinfo/lug To unsubscribe: http://kym.net/mailman/options/lug The Uganda LUG mailing list is generously hosted by INFOCOM: http://www.infocom.co.ug/ The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them (including attachments if any). The mailing list host is not responsible for them in any way.
Re: [LUG] [TechPost] Airtel Vs Orange Uganda Data Service Deathmatch - TechPost
Wow! But Joshua, you shouldn't need to do all that! That's the point - the networks should provide an option so that your number can ONLY use data when there's an active bundle. Shouldn't be too hard to do. Personally, I use a free app to monitor my usage, so I get a clear warning when my bundle is about to expire. But, to make matters worse, Airtel doesn't allow me to top-up my bundle, so I can't (like I do on Internet Everywhere), add data before my current bundle expires. P. -- Evolution (n): A hypothetical process whereby infinitely improbable events occur with alarming frequency, order arises from chaos, and no one is given credit. On 19 July 2013 15:00, Joshua Twinamasiko jo...@joshtwin.com wrote: To protect my airtime from robbery, I load only enough for the bundles that I need, have it deducted immediately so that when the bundle runs out, there's no airtime to loose. For example 20,000 for monthly Pakalast covers calls to Airtel and Warid, 5,000 SMS bundle, 40/= per SMS to all networks, then Data bundle as the need arises. So I can call most people, SMS all and browse with 0 balance. I then keep unscratched airtime cards on me for when any of the bundles runs out. For calls to networks outside the marriage, I load airtime on the MTN number which has no subscriptions to any services so I'll find it still on phone even if I don't make any calls for days. In short, keeping unused airtime in your wallet is safer than loading it. Joshua Sent from my Samsung Galaxy Tab 2 On Jul 19, 2013 11:10 AM, Kyle Spencer k...@stormzero.com wrote: Orange likes to rob me blind when my data bundle runs out or expires; I recieve no SMS warning yet they start charging me for data at a ridiculous rate. I had a friend lose nearly 100k this way. On Jul 19, 2013 11:05 AM, Joseph Kasoma jkkas...@gmail.com wrote: How does Smile Telecoms 4G LTE fair against providers like MTN,Orange and Airtel? ___ The Uganda Linux User Group: http://linux.or.ug Send messages to this mailing list by addressing e-mails to: LUG@linux.or.ug Mailing list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/lug@linux.or.ug/ Mailing list settings: http://kym.net/mailman/listinfo/lug To unsubscribe: http://kym.net/mailman/options/lug The Uganda LUG mailing list is generously hosted by INFOCOM: http://www.infocom.co.ug/ The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them (including attachments if any). The mailing list host is not responsible for them in any way. ___ The Uganda Linux User Group: http://linux.or.ug Send messages to this mailing list by addressing e-mails to: LUG@linux.or.ug Mailing list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/lug@linux.or.ug/ Mailing list settings: http://kym.net/mailman/listinfo/lug To unsubscribe: http://kym.net/mailman/options/lug The Uganda LUG mailing list is generously hosted by INFOCOM: http://www.infocom.co.ug/ The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them (including attachments if any). The mailing list host is not responsible for them in any way. ___ The Uganda Linux User Group: http://linux.or.ug Send messages to this mailing list by addressing e-mails to: LUG@linux.or.ug Mailing list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/lug@linux.or.ug/ Mailing list settings: http://kym.net/mailman/listinfo/lug To unsubscribe: http://kym.net/mailman/options/lug The Uganda LUG mailing list is generously hosted by INFOCOM: http://www.infocom.co.ug/ The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them (including attachments if any). The mailing list host is not responsible for them in any way. ___ The Uganda Linux User Group: http://linux.or.ug Send messages to this mailing list by addressing e-mails to: LUG@linux.or.ug Mailing list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/lug@linux.or.ug/ Mailing list settings: http://kym.net/mailman/listinfo/lug To unsubscribe: http://kym.net/mailman/options/lug The Uganda LUG mailing list is generously hosted by INFOCOM: http://www.infocom.co.ug/ The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them (including attachments if any). The mailing list host is not responsible for them in any way.
Re: [LUG] [TechPost] Airtel Vs Orange Uganda Data Service Deathmatch - TechPost
Peter, Yes it shouldn't be too difficult for the network engineers to implement that. And I started advocating for it when the first 3G networks rolled out, but it seems like they benefit from the way things are now and aren't in a hurry to plug such sources of revenue. Many loopholes that allow users to browse for free or get more data than they've paid for quickly get fixed. I'm sure they could also fix that, but its not to their benefit. So I take it upon myself to protect my interests. Joshua Sent from my Samsung Galaxy Tab 2 On Jul 19, 2013 3:14 PM, Peter C. Ndikuwera pnd...@gmail.com wrote: Wow! But Joshua, you shouldn't need to do all that! That's the point - the networks should provide an option so that your number can ONLY use data when there's an active bundle. Shouldn't be too hard to do. Personally, I use a free app to monitor my usage, so I get a clear warning when my bundle is about to expire. But, to make matters worse, Airtel doesn't allow me to top-up my bundle, so I can't (like I do on Internet Everywhere), add data before my current bundle expires. P. -- Evolution (n): A hypothetical process whereby infinitely improbable events occur with alarming frequency, order arises from chaos, and no one is given credit. On 19 July 2013 15:00, Joshua Twinamasiko jo...@joshtwin.com wrote: To protect my airtime from robbery, I load only enough for the bundles that I need, have it deducted immediately so that when the bundle runs out, there's no airtime to loose. For example 20,000 for monthly Pakalast covers calls to Airtel and Warid, 5,000 SMS bundle, 40/= per SMS to all networks, then Data bundle as the need arises. So I can call most people, SMS all and browse with 0 balance. I then keep unscratched airtime cards on me for when any of the bundles runs out. For calls to networks outside the marriage, I load airtime on the MTN number which has no subscriptions to any services so I'll find it still on phone even if I don't make any calls for days. In short, keeping unused airtime in your wallet is safer than loading it. Joshua Sent from my Samsung Galaxy Tab 2 On Jul 19, 2013 11:10 AM, Kyle Spencer k...@stormzero.com wrote: Orange likes to rob me blind when my data bundle runs out or expires; I recieve no SMS warning yet they start charging me for data at a ridiculous rate. I had a friend lose nearly 100k this way. On Jul 19, 2013 11:05 AM, Joseph Kasoma jkkas...@gmail.com wrote: How does Smile Telecoms 4G LTE fair against providers like MTN,Orange and Airtel? ___ The Uganda Linux User Group: http://linux.or.ug Send messages to this mailing list by addressing e-mails to: LUG@linux.or.ug Mailing list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/lug@linux.or.ug/ Mailing list settings: http://kym.net/mailman/listinfo/lug To unsubscribe: http://kym.net/mailman/options/lug The Uganda LUG mailing list is generously hosted by INFOCOM: http://www.infocom.co.ug/ The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them (including attachments if any). The mailing list host is not responsible for them in any way. ___ The Uganda Linux User Group: http://linux.or.ug Send messages to this mailing list by addressing e-mails to: LUG@linux.or.ug Mailing list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/lug@linux.or.ug/ Mailing list settings: http://kym.net/mailman/listinfo/lug To unsubscribe: http://kym.net/mailman/options/lug The Uganda LUG mailing list is generously hosted by INFOCOM: http://www.infocom.co.ug/ The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them (including attachments if any). The mailing list host is not responsible for them in any way. ___ The Uganda Linux User Group: http://linux.or.ug Send messages to this mailing list by addressing e-mails to: LUG@linux.or.ug Mailing list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/lug@linux.or.ug/ Mailing list settings: http://kym.net/mailman/listinfo/lug To unsubscribe: http://kym.net/mailman/options/lug The Uganda LUG mailing list is generously hosted by INFOCOM: http://www.infocom.co.ug/ The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them (including attachments if any). The mailing list host is not responsible for them in any way. ___ The Uganda Linux User Group: http://linux.or.ug Send messages to this mailing list by addressing e-mails to: LUG@linux.or.ug Mailing list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/lug@linux.or.ug/ Mailing list settings: http://kym.net/mailman/listinfo/lug To unsubscribe: http://kym.net/mailman/options/lug The Uganda LUG mailing list is generously hosted by INFOCOM: http://www.infocom.co.ug/ The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them (including attachments if any). The mailing list host is not responsible for them in
Re: [LUG] [TechPost] Airtel Vs Orange Uganda Data Service Deathmatch - TechPost
Sometime back we tried to bring the issue to the attention of AIRTEL via Twitter but they kept saying that they will work on it(This was about 2 years ago), We tried again this year to raise the issue but still there was no response. I don't know whether it's just very difficult or the telecoms are have other intentions. On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 4:53 PM, Joshua Twinamasiko jo...@joshtwin.comwrote: Peter, Yes it shouldn't be too difficult for the network engineers to implement that. And I started advocating for it when the first 3G networks rolled out, but it seems like they benefit from the way things are now and aren't in a hurry to plug such sources of revenue. Many loopholes that allow users to browse for free or get more data than they've paid for quickly get fixed. I'm sure they could also fix that, but its not to their benefit. So I take it upon myself to protect my interests. Joshua Sent from my Samsung Galaxy Tab 2 On Jul 19, 2013 3:14 PM, Peter C. Ndikuwera pnd...@gmail.com wrote: Wow! But Joshua, you shouldn't need to do all that! That's the point - the networks should provide an option so that your number can ONLY use data when there's an active bundle. Shouldn't be too hard to do. Personally, I use a free app to monitor my usage, so I get a clear warning when my bundle is about to expire. But, to make matters worse, Airtel doesn't allow me to top-up my bundle, so I can't (like I do on Internet Everywhere), add data before my current bundle expires. P. -- Evolution (n): A hypothetical process whereby infinitely improbable events occur with alarming frequency, order arises from chaos, and no one is given credit. On 19 July 2013 15:00, Joshua Twinamasiko jo...@joshtwin.com wrote: To protect my airtime from robbery, I load only enough for the bundles that I need, have it deducted immediately so that when the bundle runs out, there's no airtime to loose. For example 20,000 for monthly Pakalast covers calls to Airtel and Warid, 5,000 SMS bundle, 40/= per SMS to all networks, then Data bundle as the need arises. So I can call most people, SMS all and browse with 0 balance. I then keep unscratched airtime cards on me for when any of the bundles runs out. For calls to networks outside the marriage, I load airtime on the MTN number which has no subscriptions to any services so I'll find it still on phone even if I don't make any calls for days. In short, keeping unused airtime in your wallet is safer than loading it. Joshua Sent from my Samsung Galaxy Tab 2 On Jul 19, 2013 11:10 AM, Kyle Spencer k...@stormzero.com wrote: Orange likes to rob me blind when my data bundle runs out or expires; I recieve no SMS warning yet they start charging me for data at a ridiculous rate. I had a friend lose nearly 100k this way. On Jul 19, 2013 11:05 AM, Joseph Kasoma jkkas...@gmail.com wrote: How does Smile Telecoms 4G LTE fair against providers like MTN,Orange and Airtel? ___ The Uganda Linux User Group: http://linux.or.ug Send messages to this mailing list by addressing e-mails to: LUG@linux.or.ug Mailing list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/lug@linux.or.ug/ Mailing list settings: http://kym.net/mailman/listinfo/lug To unsubscribe: http://kym.net/mailman/options/lug The Uganda LUG mailing list is generously hosted by INFOCOM: http://www.infocom.co.ug/ The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them (including attachments if any). The mailing list host is not responsible for them in any way. ___ The Uganda Linux User Group: http://linux.or.ug Send messages to this mailing list by addressing e-mails to: LUG@linux.or.ug Mailing list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/lug@linux.or.ug/ Mailing list settings: http://kym.net/mailman/listinfo/lug To unsubscribe: http://kym.net/mailman/options/lug The Uganda LUG mailing list is generously hosted by INFOCOM: http://www.infocom.co.ug/ The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them (including attachments if any). The mailing list host is not responsible for them in any way. ___ The Uganda Linux User Group: http://linux.or.ug Send messages to this mailing list by addressing e-mails to: LUG@linux.or.ug Mailing list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/lug@linux.or.ug/ Mailing list settings: http://kym.net/mailman/listinfo/lug To unsubscribe: http://kym.net/mailman/options/lug The Uganda LUG mailing list is generously hosted by INFOCOM: http://www.infocom.co.ug/ The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them (including attachments if any). The mailing list host is not responsible for them in any way. ___ The Uganda Linux User Group: http://linux.or.ug Send messages to this mailing list by addressing e-mails to: LUG@linux.or.ug
Re: [LUG] [TechPost] Airtel Vs Orange Uganda Data Service Deathmatch - TechPost
We are not alone apparently http://mustaphamugisa.com/index.php/item/79-orange-s-unfair-data-subscriptio n-system From: lug-boun...@linux.or.ug [mailto:lug-boun...@linux.or.ug] On Behalf Of Patrick Tumusime Sent: 19 July 2013 19:15 To: Uganda Linux User Group Subject: Re: [LUG] [TechPost] Airtel Vs Orange Uganda Data Service Deathmatch - TechPost Sometime back we tried to bring the issue to the attention of AIRTEL via Twitter but they kept saying that they will work on it(This was about 2 years ago), We tried again this year to raise the issue but still there was no response. I don't know whether it's just very difficult or the telecoms are have other intentions. On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 4:53 PM, Joshua Twinamasiko jo...@joshtwin.com mailto:jo...@joshtwin.com wrote: Peter, Yes it shouldn't be too difficult for the network engineers to implement that. And I started advocating for it when the first 3G networks rolled out, but it seems like they benefit from the way things are now and aren't in a hurry to plug such sources of revenue. Many loopholes that allow users to browse for free or get more data than they've paid for quickly get fixed. I'm sure they could also fix that, but its not to their benefit. So I take it upon myself to protect my interests. Joshua Sent from my Samsung Galaxy Tab 2 On Jul 19, 2013 3:14 PM, Peter C. Ndikuwera pnd...@gmail.com mailto:pnd...@gmail.com wrote: Wow! But Joshua, you shouldn't need to do all that! That's the point - the networks should provide an option so that your number can ONLY use data when there's an active bundle. Shouldn't be too hard to do. Personally, I use a free app to monitor my usage, so I get a clear warning when my bundle is about to expire. But, to make matters worse, Airtel doesn't allow me to top-up my bundle, so I can't (like I do on Internet Everywhere), add data before my current bundle expires. P. -- Evolution (n): A hypothetical process whereby infinitely improbable events occur with alarming frequency, order arises from chaos, and no one is given credit. On 19 July 2013 15:00, Joshua Twinamasiko jo...@joshtwin.com mailto:jo...@joshtwin.com wrote: To protect my airtime from robbery, I load only enough for the bundles that I need, have it deducted immediately so that when the bundle runs out, there's no airtime to loose. For example 20,000 for monthly Pakalast covers calls to Airtel and Warid, 5,000 SMS bundle, 40/= per SMS to all networks, then Data bundle as the need arises. So I can call most people, SMS all and browse with 0 balance. I then keep unscratched airtime cards on me for when any of the bundles runs out. For calls to networks outside the marriage, I load airtime on the MTN number which has no subscriptions to any services so I'll find it still on phone even if I don't make any calls for days. In short, keeping unused airtime in your wallet is safer than loading it. Joshua Sent from my Samsung Galaxy Tab 2 On Jul 19, 2013 11:10 AM, Kyle Spencer k...@stormzero.com mailto:k...@stormzero.com wrote: Orange likes to rob me blind when my data bundle runs out or expires; I recieve no SMS warning yet they start charging me for data at a ridiculous rate. I had a friend lose nearly 100k this way. On Jul 19, 2013 11:05 AM, Joseph Kasoma jkkas...@gmail.com mailto:jkkas...@gmail.com wrote: How does Smile Telecoms 4G LTE fair against providers like MTN,Orange and Airtel? ___ The Uganda Linux User Group: http://linux.or.ug Send messages to this mailing list by addressing e-mails to: LUG@linux.or.ug mailto:LUG@linux.or.ug Mailing list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/lug@linux.or.ug/ Mailing list settings: http://kym.net/mailman/listinfo/lug To unsubscribe: http://kym.net/mailman/options/lug The Uganda LUG mailing list is generously hosted by INFOCOM: http://www.infocom.co.ug/ The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them (including attachments if any). The mailing list host is not responsible for them in any way. ___ The Uganda Linux User Group: http://linux.or.ug Send messages to this mailing list by addressing e-mails to: LUG@linux.or.ug mailto:LUG@linux.or.ug Mailing list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/lug@linux.or.ug/ Mailing list settings: http://kym.net/mailman/listinfo/lug To unsubscribe: http://kym.net/mailman/options/lug The Uganda LUG mailing list is generously hosted by INFOCOM: http://www.infocom.co.ug/ The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them (including attachments if any). The mailing list host is not responsible for them in any way. ___ The Uganda Linux User Group: http://linux.or.ug Send messages to this mailing list by addressing e-mails to: LUG@linux.or.ug mailto:LUG@linux.or.ug Mailing list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/lug@linux.or.ug/ Mailing list settings:
